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Are some sounds more pleasing to the ear, like ㄴ and ㅁ?


What's the difference between 드세요 and 잡수세요?Is it true that Koreans might sometimes be cautious about actually saying the verb in a sentence?Is (으)시 sometimes used just to disambiguate between the first and second person?Multiple `(으)시` in a sentence for honoring target?How 선배 and 후배 are classified in Korean (age, position or both)?Why are ㅅ ㅆ pronounced as a stop when they are in the 받침?Is ᄉ voiced under the same conditions that cause ᄀ, ᄃ, ᄌ and ᄇ to be voiced?Why do the consonants ㄱ, ㄷ, and ㅅ have irregular names?Difference in use of the “present” and the “honorific present” (e.g. 하다)?Addressing someone on the street you have never met and who is of ambiguous age













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I notice that many honorifics have similar consonant sounds when spoken. For example, the ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation and the ~님 noun ending (e.g., in 선생님, 사장님, 아버님) have the ㄴ and ㅁ sounds when spoken.



Are some sounds more pleasing to the ear? Indeed to me the ㄴ and ㅁ consonants sound like honey, but could that be why the Korean language evolved this way - people spoke to their elders and rulers with sweeter tones and more agreeable melodies?



The ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation could have been the ~ㄹ/즐보다 conjugation or something else, but perhaps that sounds less exalted or melodic.



I’m looking for psychological/neurological/linguistic research about these topics - please don’t speculate as an answer. Thanks!










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    While I believe the answer to this particular question is no, you may be interested in the broader linguistic concept (well, more of a hypothesis) of sound symbolism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism

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I notice that many honorifics have similar consonant sounds when spoken. For example, the ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation and the ~님 noun ending (e.g., in 선생님, 사장님, 아버님) have the ㄴ and ㅁ sounds when spoken.



Are some sounds more pleasing to the ear? Indeed to me the ㄴ and ㅁ consonants sound like honey, but could that be why the Korean language evolved this way - people spoke to their elders and rulers with sweeter tones and more agreeable melodies?



The ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation could have been the ~ㄹ/즐보다 conjugation or something else, but perhaps that sounds less exalted or melodic.



I’m looking for psychological/neurological/linguistic research about these topics - please don’t speculate as an answer. Thanks!










share|improve this question







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    While I believe the answer to this particular question is no, you may be interested in the broader linguistic concept (well, more of a hypothesis) of sound symbolism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism

    – Max Kapur
    2 days ago






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    Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you, Max

    – Arseniy Banayev
    2 days ago













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I notice that many honorifics have similar consonant sounds when spoken. For example, the ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation and the ~님 noun ending (e.g., in 선생님, 사장님, 아버님) have the ㄴ and ㅁ sounds when spoken.



Are some sounds more pleasing to the ear? Indeed to me the ㄴ and ㅁ consonants sound like honey, but could that be why the Korean language evolved this way - people spoke to their elders and rulers with sweeter tones and more agreeable melodies?



The ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation could have been the ~ㄹ/즐보다 conjugation or something else, but perhaps that sounds less exalted or melodic.



I’m looking for psychological/neurological/linguistic research about these topics - please don’t speculate as an answer. Thanks!










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I notice that many honorifics have similar consonant sounds when spoken. For example, the ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation and the ~님 noun ending (e.g., in 선생님, 사장님, 아버님) have the ㄴ and ㅁ sounds when spoken.



Are some sounds more pleasing to the ear? Indeed to me the ㄴ and ㅁ consonants sound like honey, but could that be why the Korean language evolved this way - people spoke to their elders and rulers with sweeter tones and more agreeable melodies?



The ~ㅂ/습니다 conjugation could have been the ~ㄹ/즐보다 conjugation or something else, but perhaps that sounds less exalted or melodic.



I’m looking for psychological/neurological/linguistic research about these topics - please don’t speculate as an answer. Thanks!







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    While I believe the answer to this particular question is no, you may be interested in the broader linguistic concept (well, more of a hypothesis) of sound symbolism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism

    – Max Kapur
    2 days ago






  • 1





    Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you, Max

    – Arseniy Banayev
    2 days ago












  • 2





    While I believe the answer to this particular question is no, you may be interested in the broader linguistic concept (well, more of a hypothesis) of sound symbolism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism

    – Max Kapur
    2 days ago






  • 1





    Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you, Max

    – Arseniy Banayev
    2 days ago







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While I believe the answer to this particular question is no, you may be interested in the broader linguistic concept (well, more of a hypothesis) of sound symbolism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism

– Max Kapur
2 days ago





While I believe the answer to this particular question is no, you may be interested in the broader linguistic concept (well, more of a hypothesis) of sound symbolism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism

– Max Kapur
2 days ago




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One thing to keep in mind is that (1) ㄴ and ㅁ are common consonants and (2) polite expressions are usually longer. So, there's a good chance that a polite expression will contain either ㄴ or ㅁ.



But I highly doubt that polite expressions contain more ㄴ/ㅁ than average. Let's just look at some regular-polite pairs:




나이 - 연세



말 - 말씀



주다 - 드리다



죽다 - 돌아가시다



아프다 - 편찮다



먹다 - 들다/드시다



있다 - 계시다



집 - 댁




The left side contains 15 characters, 1 ㄴ, and 2 ㅁ's. The right side has 24 characters, 3 ㄴ's, and 2 ㅁ's. Not much difference.



In conclusion, I don't think your theory is supported by data.






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    One thing to keep in mind is that (1) ㄴ and ㅁ are common consonants and (2) polite expressions are usually longer. So, there's a good chance that a polite expression will contain either ㄴ or ㅁ.



    But I highly doubt that polite expressions contain more ㄴ/ㅁ than average. Let's just look at some regular-polite pairs:




    나이 - 연세



    말 - 말씀



    주다 - 드리다



    죽다 - 돌아가시다



    아프다 - 편찮다



    먹다 - 들다/드시다



    있다 - 계시다



    집 - 댁




    The left side contains 15 characters, 1 ㄴ, and 2 ㅁ's. The right side has 24 characters, 3 ㄴ's, and 2 ㅁ's. Not much difference.



    In conclusion, I don't think your theory is supported by data.






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      One thing to keep in mind is that (1) ㄴ and ㅁ are common consonants and (2) polite expressions are usually longer. So, there's a good chance that a polite expression will contain either ㄴ or ㅁ.



      But I highly doubt that polite expressions contain more ㄴ/ㅁ than average. Let's just look at some regular-polite pairs:




      나이 - 연세



      말 - 말씀



      주다 - 드리다



      죽다 - 돌아가시다



      아프다 - 편찮다



      먹다 - 들다/드시다



      있다 - 계시다



      집 - 댁




      The left side contains 15 characters, 1 ㄴ, and 2 ㅁ's. The right side has 24 characters, 3 ㄴ's, and 2 ㅁ's. Not much difference.



      In conclusion, I don't think your theory is supported by data.






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        One thing to keep in mind is that (1) ㄴ and ㅁ are common consonants and (2) polite expressions are usually longer. So, there's a good chance that a polite expression will contain either ㄴ or ㅁ.



        But I highly doubt that polite expressions contain more ㄴ/ㅁ than average. Let's just look at some regular-polite pairs:




        나이 - 연세



        말 - 말씀



        주다 - 드리다



        죽다 - 돌아가시다



        아프다 - 편찮다



        먹다 - 들다/드시다



        있다 - 계시다



        집 - 댁




        The left side contains 15 characters, 1 ㄴ, and 2 ㅁ's. The right side has 24 characters, 3 ㄴ's, and 2 ㅁ's. Not much difference.



        In conclusion, I don't think your theory is supported by data.






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        One thing to keep in mind is that (1) ㄴ and ㅁ are common consonants and (2) polite expressions are usually longer. So, there's a good chance that a polite expression will contain either ㄴ or ㅁ.



        But I highly doubt that polite expressions contain more ㄴ/ㅁ than average. Let's just look at some regular-polite pairs:




        나이 - 연세



        말 - 말씀



        주다 - 드리다



        죽다 - 돌아가시다



        아프다 - 편찮다



        먹다 - 들다/드시다



        있다 - 계시다



        집 - 댁




        The left side contains 15 characters, 1 ㄴ, and 2 ㅁ's. The right side has 24 characters, 3 ㄴ's, and 2 ㅁ's. Not much difference.



        In conclusion, I don't think your theory is supported by data.







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