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Definition of the Pauli group and the Clifford group


Why is the decomposition of a qubit-qutrit Hamiltonian in terms of Pauli and Gell-Mann matrices not unique?Is the Pauli group for $n$-qubits a basis for $mathbbC^2^ntimes 2^n$?Shorthand notation for the sign flip gateIs there a simple rule for the inverse of a Clifford circuit's stabilizer table?How does the stated Pauli decomposition for $operatornameCPcdot Acdot CP$ arise?Isomorphism between the Clifford group and the quaternionsEfficient implementation of the Clifford group for $n$ qubitsFast way to check if two state vectors are equivalent up to Pauli operationsRotation operator on Pauli parity gates $XX$, $YY$ and $ZZ$CRZ and CRY Gates






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There seem to be two definitions of the Pauli group. In Nielsen and Chuang, the Pauli group on 1 qubit is defined as
beginalign*
mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm iI, pm X, pm iX, pm Y, pm iY, pm Z, pm iZ = langle X, Y, Zrangle.
endalign*

But in other references, such as https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.57.127,
beginalign*
mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm X, pm iY, pm Z = langle X, Zrangle.
endalign*

The second definition makes more sense in the stabilizer formalism, since we usually only consider the action of Pauli strings of $X$ and $Z$. What bothers me is that by the second definition, the phase gate $S$, which is an element of the Clifford group, results in
beginalign*
SXS^dagger = Y notin mathcalP_1.
endalign*

I know that the prefactor $pm i$ somehow doesn't matter, but can someone justify it from a more mathematical/group-theoretical perspective?










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    $begingroup$


    There seem to be two definitions of the Pauli group. In Nielsen and Chuang, the Pauli group on 1 qubit is defined as
    beginalign*
    mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm iI, pm X, pm iX, pm Y, pm iY, pm Z, pm iZ = langle X, Y, Zrangle.
    endalign*

    But in other references, such as https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.57.127,
    beginalign*
    mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm X, pm iY, pm Z = langle X, Zrangle.
    endalign*

    The second definition makes more sense in the stabilizer formalism, since we usually only consider the action of Pauli strings of $X$ and $Z$. What bothers me is that by the second definition, the phase gate $S$, which is an element of the Clifford group, results in
    beginalign*
    SXS^dagger = Y notin mathcalP_1.
    endalign*

    I know that the prefactor $pm i$ somehow doesn't matter, but can someone justify it from a more mathematical/group-theoretical perspective?










    share|improve this question









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      $begingroup$


      There seem to be two definitions of the Pauli group. In Nielsen and Chuang, the Pauli group on 1 qubit is defined as
      beginalign*
      mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm iI, pm X, pm iX, pm Y, pm iY, pm Z, pm iZ = langle X, Y, Zrangle.
      endalign*

      But in other references, such as https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.57.127,
      beginalign*
      mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm X, pm iY, pm Z = langle X, Zrangle.
      endalign*

      The second definition makes more sense in the stabilizer formalism, since we usually only consider the action of Pauli strings of $X$ and $Z$. What bothers me is that by the second definition, the phase gate $S$, which is an element of the Clifford group, results in
      beginalign*
      SXS^dagger = Y notin mathcalP_1.
      endalign*

      I know that the prefactor $pm i$ somehow doesn't matter, but can someone justify it from a more mathematical/group-theoretical perspective?










      share|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      There seem to be two definitions of the Pauli group. In Nielsen and Chuang, the Pauli group on 1 qubit is defined as
      beginalign*
      mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm iI, pm X, pm iX, pm Y, pm iY, pm Z, pm iZ = langle X, Y, Zrangle.
      endalign*

      But in other references, such as https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.57.127,
      beginalign*
      mathcalP_1 = pm I, pm X, pm iY, pm Z = langle X, Zrangle.
      endalign*

      The second definition makes more sense in the stabilizer formalism, since we usually only consider the action of Pauli strings of $X$ and $Z$. What bothers me is that by the second definition, the phase gate $S$, which is an element of the Clifford group, results in
      beginalign*
      SXS^dagger = Y notin mathcalP_1.
      endalign*

      I know that the prefactor $pm i$ somehow doesn't matter, but can someone justify it from a more mathematical/group-theoretical perspective?







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          The difference in definitions is from either taking the unitary group or the projective unitary group. That accounts for the constant prefactors of $pm i$ that are missing.



          In lieu of a tikz commutative diagram



          beginalign
          <X,Y,Z> & hookrightarrow & U(2)\
          downarrow & & downarrow\
          <[X],[Z]> & hookrightarrow & PU(2)
          endalign



          For both of the inclusion arrows $H hookrightarrow G$, you can form normalizers $N_G (H)$ which fit in between on each row.






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          • $begingroup$
            You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
            $endgroup$
            – snsunx
            Jul 14 at 23:45










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            It would be nicer if could do the commutative diagram with tikz here
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            – AHusain
            Jul 14 at 23:57


















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          $begingroup$

          Note that the second definition actually doesn't make more sense in the context of the stabiliser formalism, as neither of $pm i Y$ have a +1 eigenspace. That means that you can only describe states which are stabilised by operators with two or more factors of $pm i Y$. This is only enough to simulate real stabiliser circuits, which is what you're noticing.



          For that reason, I would use the first definition; and anyone whose work involves taking the Pauli operators first (which consist of $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Z$, and also $Y$) and then generating a group from them will inevitably use the first definition, for the simple reason that this is the group $langle X, Y, Zrangle$. And because the operators $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ form an operator basis for the Hermitian operators on a single qubit, there are often very good theoretical reasons to include the operator $Y$ (in preference to $iY$) in one's analysis.



          It must be said that [Phys. Rev. A 57 (127), 1998] is not just any old article which uses the Pauli group, nor will the point I made above have escaped its author. The reason (I believe) why Gottesman didn't make the distinction there, that I am making now, is because his main interest in that article is in describing error correcting codes — in which the scalar factors preceding the Pauli operators are in principle less important.



          • To start with, many of the best liked and interesting codes — from the 9-qubit code and the Steane $[! [7,1,3]! ]$ code, to the toric code — happen to be CSS codes, whose stabiliser groups are generated by separate X and Z stabilisers; any stabiliser operators involving Y, will indeed have Y operators in pairs. So, in practise, the point I made about $iY$ not having a +1 eigenspace often doesn't come up.


          • Secondly, if one decides to just do a hand-wave and forget all scalars, then the important thing is not whether a state is a joint +1 eigenstate of the stabilisers, but just that the state is some eigenstate of all the stabilisers. Considering a stabiliser code, the important thing is that all of the states of the code have the same eigenvalues as each other. This second point gives rise to the notion of the Pauli Frame: the eigenvalues which the codespace has for the 'stabilisers', interpreted as a reference frame. The main thing is for the Pauli frame to be well-defined, and for it to change slowly enough to track how it is changing by stabiliser measurements. And if you're not actually responsible for realising a system to do so, but just want to explore the theory of quantum error correction codes itself, specific eigenvalues are largely a distraction.


          The thing is, if you want to use the stabiliser formalism for a different purpose — say, to efficiently simulate stabiliser circuits on standard basis states — then you can't be quite so carefree with scalars: a collection of $n$-qubit stabiliser generators define a specific basis in which the state will live, but flip some signs and you change which of the $2^n$ states you are talking about. To perform the correct simulation, signs do matter here. Keeping track of them may be slightly tedious using the usual convention, but in the end it's important to do.






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            But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 15 at 14:00











          • $begingroup$
            @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 15 at 16:39











          • $begingroup$
            (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 16 at 15:10










          • $begingroup$
            Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:06










          • $begingroup$
            We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
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            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:08













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          The difference in definitions is from either taking the unitary group or the projective unitary group. That accounts for the constant prefactors of $pm i$ that are missing.



          In lieu of a tikz commutative diagram



          beginalign
          <X,Y,Z> & hookrightarrow & U(2)\
          downarrow & & downarrow\
          <[X],[Z]> & hookrightarrow & PU(2)
          endalign



          For both of the inclusion arrows $H hookrightarrow G$, you can form normalizers $N_G (H)$ which fit in between on each row.






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          • $begingroup$
            You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
            $endgroup$
            – snsunx
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            It would be nicer if could do the commutative diagram with tikz here
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 14 at 23:57















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          $begingroup$

          The difference in definitions is from either taking the unitary group or the projective unitary group. That accounts for the constant prefactors of $pm i$ that are missing.



          In lieu of a tikz commutative diagram



          beginalign
          <X,Y,Z> & hookrightarrow & U(2)\
          downarrow & & downarrow\
          <[X],[Z]> & hookrightarrow & PU(2)
          endalign



          For both of the inclusion arrows $H hookrightarrow G$, you can form normalizers $N_G (H)$ which fit in between on each row.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
            $endgroup$
            – snsunx
            Jul 14 at 23:45










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            – AHusain
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          $begingroup$

          The difference in definitions is from either taking the unitary group or the projective unitary group. That accounts for the constant prefactors of $pm i$ that are missing.



          In lieu of a tikz commutative diagram



          beginalign
          <X,Y,Z> & hookrightarrow & U(2)\
          downarrow & & downarrow\
          <[X],[Z]> & hookrightarrow & PU(2)
          endalign



          For both of the inclusion arrows $H hookrightarrow G$, you can form normalizers $N_G (H)$ which fit in between on each row.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          The difference in definitions is from either taking the unitary group or the projective unitary group. That accounts for the constant prefactors of $pm i$ that are missing.



          In lieu of a tikz commutative diagram



          beginalign
          <X,Y,Z> & hookrightarrow & U(2)\
          downarrow & & downarrow\
          <[X],[Z]> & hookrightarrow & PU(2)
          endalign



          For both of the inclusion arrows $H hookrightarrow G$, you can form normalizers $N_G (H)$ which fit in between on each row.







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          • $begingroup$
            You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
            $endgroup$
            – snsunx
            Jul 14 at 23:45










          • $begingroup$
            It would be nicer if could do the commutative diagram with tikz here
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 14 at 23:57
















          • $begingroup$
            You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
            $endgroup$
            – snsunx
            Jul 14 at 23:45










          • $begingroup$
            It would be nicer if could do the commutative diagram with tikz here
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 14 at 23:57















          $begingroup$
          You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
          $endgroup$
          – snsunx
          Jul 14 at 23:45




          $begingroup$
          You mean the Pauli matrices can be thought of as taken from the projective unitary group? In that case should I think of the Clifford group as normalizing $mathcalP_1/U(1)$ rather than normalizing $mathcalP_1$?
          $endgroup$
          – snsunx
          Jul 14 at 23:45












          $begingroup$
          It would be nicer if could do the commutative diagram with tikz here
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 14 at 23:57




          $begingroup$
          It would be nicer if could do the commutative diagram with tikz here
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 14 at 23:57













          1












          $begingroup$

          Note that the second definition actually doesn't make more sense in the context of the stabiliser formalism, as neither of $pm i Y$ have a +1 eigenspace. That means that you can only describe states which are stabilised by operators with two or more factors of $pm i Y$. This is only enough to simulate real stabiliser circuits, which is what you're noticing.



          For that reason, I would use the first definition; and anyone whose work involves taking the Pauli operators first (which consist of $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Z$, and also $Y$) and then generating a group from them will inevitably use the first definition, for the simple reason that this is the group $langle X, Y, Zrangle$. And because the operators $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ form an operator basis for the Hermitian operators on a single qubit, there are often very good theoretical reasons to include the operator $Y$ (in preference to $iY$) in one's analysis.



          It must be said that [Phys. Rev. A 57 (127), 1998] is not just any old article which uses the Pauli group, nor will the point I made above have escaped its author. The reason (I believe) why Gottesman didn't make the distinction there, that I am making now, is because his main interest in that article is in describing error correcting codes — in which the scalar factors preceding the Pauli operators are in principle less important.



          • To start with, many of the best liked and interesting codes — from the 9-qubit code and the Steane $[! [7,1,3]! ]$ code, to the toric code — happen to be CSS codes, whose stabiliser groups are generated by separate X and Z stabilisers; any stabiliser operators involving Y, will indeed have Y operators in pairs. So, in practise, the point I made about $iY$ not having a +1 eigenspace often doesn't come up.


          • Secondly, if one decides to just do a hand-wave and forget all scalars, then the important thing is not whether a state is a joint +1 eigenstate of the stabilisers, but just that the state is some eigenstate of all the stabilisers. Considering a stabiliser code, the important thing is that all of the states of the code have the same eigenvalues as each other. This second point gives rise to the notion of the Pauli Frame: the eigenvalues which the codespace has for the 'stabilisers', interpreted as a reference frame. The main thing is for the Pauli frame to be well-defined, and for it to change slowly enough to track how it is changing by stabiliser measurements. And if you're not actually responsible for realising a system to do so, but just want to explore the theory of quantum error correction codes itself, specific eigenvalues are largely a distraction.


          The thing is, if you want to use the stabiliser formalism for a different purpose — say, to efficiently simulate stabiliser circuits on standard basis states — then you can't be quite so carefree with scalars: a collection of $n$-qubit stabiliser generators define a specific basis in which the state will live, but flip some signs and you change which of the $2^n$ states you are talking about. To perform the correct simulation, signs do matter here. Keeping track of them may be slightly tedious using the usual convention, but in the end it's important to do.






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          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 15 at 14:00











          • $begingroup$
            @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 15 at 16:39











          • $begingroup$
            (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 16 at 15:10










          • $begingroup$
            Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:06










          • $begingroup$
            We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:08















          1












          $begingroup$

          Note that the second definition actually doesn't make more sense in the context of the stabiliser formalism, as neither of $pm i Y$ have a +1 eigenspace. That means that you can only describe states which are stabilised by operators with two or more factors of $pm i Y$. This is only enough to simulate real stabiliser circuits, which is what you're noticing.



          For that reason, I would use the first definition; and anyone whose work involves taking the Pauli operators first (which consist of $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Z$, and also $Y$) and then generating a group from them will inevitably use the first definition, for the simple reason that this is the group $langle X, Y, Zrangle$. And because the operators $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ form an operator basis for the Hermitian operators on a single qubit, there are often very good theoretical reasons to include the operator $Y$ (in preference to $iY$) in one's analysis.



          It must be said that [Phys. Rev. A 57 (127), 1998] is not just any old article which uses the Pauli group, nor will the point I made above have escaped its author. The reason (I believe) why Gottesman didn't make the distinction there, that I am making now, is because his main interest in that article is in describing error correcting codes — in which the scalar factors preceding the Pauli operators are in principle less important.



          • To start with, many of the best liked and interesting codes — from the 9-qubit code and the Steane $[! [7,1,3]! ]$ code, to the toric code — happen to be CSS codes, whose stabiliser groups are generated by separate X and Z stabilisers; any stabiliser operators involving Y, will indeed have Y operators in pairs. So, in practise, the point I made about $iY$ not having a +1 eigenspace often doesn't come up.


          • Secondly, if one decides to just do a hand-wave and forget all scalars, then the important thing is not whether a state is a joint +1 eigenstate of the stabilisers, but just that the state is some eigenstate of all the stabilisers. Considering a stabiliser code, the important thing is that all of the states of the code have the same eigenvalues as each other. This second point gives rise to the notion of the Pauli Frame: the eigenvalues which the codespace has for the 'stabilisers', interpreted as a reference frame. The main thing is for the Pauli frame to be well-defined, and for it to change slowly enough to track how it is changing by stabiliser measurements. And if you're not actually responsible for realising a system to do so, but just want to explore the theory of quantum error correction codes itself, specific eigenvalues are largely a distraction.


          The thing is, if you want to use the stabiliser formalism for a different purpose — say, to efficiently simulate stabiliser circuits on standard basis states — then you can't be quite so carefree with scalars: a collection of $n$-qubit stabiliser generators define a specific basis in which the state will live, but flip some signs and you change which of the $2^n$ states you are talking about. To perform the correct simulation, signs do matter here. Keeping track of them may be slightly tedious using the usual convention, but in the end it's important to do.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 15 at 14:00











          • $begingroup$
            @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 15 at 16:39











          • $begingroup$
            (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 16 at 15:10










          • $begingroup$
            Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
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            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:06










          • $begingroup$
            We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:08













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          Note that the second definition actually doesn't make more sense in the context of the stabiliser formalism, as neither of $pm i Y$ have a +1 eigenspace. That means that you can only describe states which are stabilised by operators with two or more factors of $pm i Y$. This is only enough to simulate real stabiliser circuits, which is what you're noticing.



          For that reason, I would use the first definition; and anyone whose work involves taking the Pauli operators first (which consist of $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Z$, and also $Y$) and then generating a group from them will inevitably use the first definition, for the simple reason that this is the group $langle X, Y, Zrangle$. And because the operators $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ form an operator basis for the Hermitian operators on a single qubit, there are often very good theoretical reasons to include the operator $Y$ (in preference to $iY$) in one's analysis.



          It must be said that [Phys. Rev. A 57 (127), 1998] is not just any old article which uses the Pauli group, nor will the point I made above have escaped its author. The reason (I believe) why Gottesman didn't make the distinction there, that I am making now, is because his main interest in that article is in describing error correcting codes — in which the scalar factors preceding the Pauli operators are in principle less important.



          • To start with, many of the best liked and interesting codes — from the 9-qubit code and the Steane $[! [7,1,3]! ]$ code, to the toric code — happen to be CSS codes, whose stabiliser groups are generated by separate X and Z stabilisers; any stabiliser operators involving Y, will indeed have Y operators in pairs. So, in practise, the point I made about $iY$ not having a +1 eigenspace often doesn't come up.


          • Secondly, if one decides to just do a hand-wave and forget all scalars, then the important thing is not whether a state is a joint +1 eigenstate of the stabilisers, but just that the state is some eigenstate of all the stabilisers. Considering a stabiliser code, the important thing is that all of the states of the code have the same eigenvalues as each other. This second point gives rise to the notion of the Pauli Frame: the eigenvalues which the codespace has for the 'stabilisers', interpreted as a reference frame. The main thing is for the Pauli frame to be well-defined, and for it to change slowly enough to track how it is changing by stabiliser measurements. And if you're not actually responsible for realising a system to do so, but just want to explore the theory of quantum error correction codes itself, specific eigenvalues are largely a distraction.


          The thing is, if you want to use the stabiliser formalism for a different purpose — say, to efficiently simulate stabiliser circuits on standard basis states — then you can't be quite so carefree with scalars: a collection of $n$-qubit stabiliser generators define a specific basis in which the state will live, but flip some signs and you change which of the $2^n$ states you are talking about. To perform the correct simulation, signs do matter here. Keeping track of them may be slightly tedious using the usual convention, but in the end it's important to do.






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          Note that the second definition actually doesn't make more sense in the context of the stabiliser formalism, as neither of $pm i Y$ have a +1 eigenspace. That means that you can only describe states which are stabilised by operators with two or more factors of $pm i Y$. This is only enough to simulate real stabiliser circuits, which is what you're noticing.



          For that reason, I would use the first definition; and anyone whose work involves taking the Pauli operators first (which consist of $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Z$, and also $Y$) and then generating a group from them will inevitably use the first definition, for the simple reason that this is the group $langle X, Y, Zrangle$. And because the operators $mathbf 1$, $X$, $Y$, and $Z$ form an operator basis for the Hermitian operators on a single qubit, there are often very good theoretical reasons to include the operator $Y$ (in preference to $iY$) in one's analysis.



          It must be said that [Phys. Rev. A 57 (127), 1998] is not just any old article which uses the Pauli group, nor will the point I made above have escaped its author. The reason (I believe) why Gottesman didn't make the distinction there, that I am making now, is because his main interest in that article is in describing error correcting codes — in which the scalar factors preceding the Pauli operators are in principle less important.



          • To start with, many of the best liked and interesting codes — from the 9-qubit code and the Steane $[! [7,1,3]! ]$ code, to the toric code — happen to be CSS codes, whose stabiliser groups are generated by separate X and Z stabilisers; any stabiliser operators involving Y, will indeed have Y operators in pairs. So, in practise, the point I made about $iY$ not having a +1 eigenspace often doesn't come up.


          • Secondly, if one decides to just do a hand-wave and forget all scalars, then the important thing is not whether a state is a joint +1 eigenstate of the stabilisers, but just that the state is some eigenstate of all the stabilisers. Considering a stabiliser code, the important thing is that all of the states of the code have the same eigenvalues as each other. This second point gives rise to the notion of the Pauli Frame: the eigenvalues which the codespace has for the 'stabilisers', interpreted as a reference frame. The main thing is for the Pauli frame to be well-defined, and for it to change slowly enough to track how it is changing by stabiliser measurements. And if you're not actually responsible for realising a system to do so, but just want to explore the theory of quantum error correction codes itself, specific eigenvalues are largely a distraction.


          The thing is, if you want to use the stabiliser formalism for a different purpose — say, to efficiently simulate stabiliser circuits on standard basis states — then you can't be quite so carefree with scalars: a collection of $n$-qubit stabiliser generators define a specific basis in which the state will live, but flip some signs and you change which of the $2^n$ states you are talking about. To perform the correct simulation, signs do matter here. Keeping track of them may be slightly tedious using the usual convention, but in the end it's important to do.







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            But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
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            @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
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            (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 16 at 15:10










          • $begingroup$
            Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:06










          • $begingroup$
            We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:08
















          • $begingroup$
            But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 15 at 14:00











          • $begingroup$
            @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 15 at 16:39











          • $begingroup$
            (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
            $endgroup$
            – Niel de Beaudrap
            Jul 16 at 15:10










          • $begingroup$
            Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:06










          • $begingroup$
            We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
            $endgroup$
            – AHusain
            Jul 16 at 18:08















          $begingroup$
          But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 15 at 14:00





          $begingroup$
          But $[pm iY]$ as it's equivalence class still squares to the identity in the projective unitary group. So it may not have $pm 1$ eigenspaces (not being a matrix itself), but that is the corresponding notion.
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 15 at 14:00













          $begingroup$
          @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
          $endgroup$
          – Niel de Beaudrap
          Jul 15 at 16:39





          $begingroup$
          @AHusain: Right, here's a question for you then. I have in mind a single qubit state which is 'stabilised' by $[pm i Y]$. Which state am I thinking of?
          $endgroup$
          – Niel de Beaudrap
          Jul 15 at 16:39













          $begingroup$
          (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
          $endgroup$
          – Niel de Beaudrap
          Jul 16 at 15:10




          $begingroup$
          (Hint: does being an eigenstate of $pm i Y$ characterise a unique single-qubit state?)
          $endgroup$
          – Niel de Beaudrap
          Jul 16 at 15:10












          $begingroup$
          Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 16 at 18:06




          $begingroup$
          Travelling last night. Anyway. The action of PU(n) descends to an action on $CP^n-1$. In this case, the equivalence class of $(alpha,beta)$ goes to that of $(beta,-alpha)$. So $(alpha,beta) equiv (beta,-alpha)$ is the condition for fixed points of group action. This translates into $(1,fracbetaalpha)=(1,frac-alphabeta)$. Which becomes $alpha^2=-beta^2$. A homogeneous equation so cuts out a well defined locus in projective space. $alpha = pm i beta$. Rescale solutions and you get two equivalence classes $(1,pm i)$. I never claimed anything about unique solutions.
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 16 at 18:06












          $begingroup$
          We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 16 at 18:08




          $begingroup$
          We're just talking about a group. There are well defined groups whether they be matrix groups or in a projective quotient. There are well defined group actions whether they be linear or merely algebraic.
          $endgroup$
          – AHusain
          Jul 16 at 18:08

















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