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I have purchased a custom wedding band from a seller that claims the ring will show the constellations visible at the horizon on a specific date at a certain date and time.



However, I have fired up Stellarium and set it up to look at a specific example shown in the product page - and I cannot find any set of parameters which looks like it: Jupiter's not in the right place, some constellations are under the horizon (Virgo, Libra, Leo), some others very high in the sky (Andromeda, Perseus)... Although it's the first time I use Stellarium, I don't see how I could make a mistake:



  • Location set to London Bridge (even the preset London to be sure)

  • Date and time set just like in the example (double-checked 5 times)

  • Cylindrical projection (tried all of them though), offset -30%

  • FoV 210° (to have the 360° mapped to the entire screen - I have

    absolutely no idea why 180° does not work)

  • Elevation lines horizontal (although I tried moving around to align everything like in the pictures for every projection method - in vain)

Here is the example:
enter image description here



Am I missing something, or is their sky map wrong? If yes, is it possible that two pieces of well-polished software like Stellarium and this one (looks just as good as Stellarium) have different star locations? How come (isn't there a standard star almanach?)?










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    I have purchased a custom wedding band from a seller that claims the ring will show the constellations visible at the horizon on a specific date at a certain date and time.



    However, I have fired up Stellarium and set it up to look at a specific example shown in the product page - and I cannot find any set of parameters which looks like it: Jupiter's not in the right place, some constellations are under the horizon (Virgo, Libra, Leo), some others very high in the sky (Andromeda, Perseus)... Although it's the first time I use Stellarium, I don't see how I could make a mistake:



    • Location set to London Bridge (even the preset London to be sure)

    • Date and time set just like in the example (double-checked 5 times)

    • Cylindrical projection (tried all of them though), offset -30%

    • FoV 210° (to have the 360° mapped to the entire screen - I have

      absolutely no idea why 180° does not work)

    • Elevation lines horizontal (although I tried moving around to align everything like in the pictures for every projection method - in vain)

    Here is the example:
    enter image description here



    Am I missing something, or is their sky map wrong? If yes, is it possible that two pieces of well-polished software like Stellarium and this one (looks just as good as Stellarium) have different star locations? How come (isn't there a standard star almanach?)?










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      I have purchased a custom wedding band from a seller that claims the ring will show the constellations visible at the horizon on a specific date at a certain date and time.



      However, I have fired up Stellarium and set it up to look at a specific example shown in the product page - and I cannot find any set of parameters which looks like it: Jupiter's not in the right place, some constellations are under the horizon (Virgo, Libra, Leo), some others very high in the sky (Andromeda, Perseus)... Although it's the first time I use Stellarium, I don't see how I could make a mistake:



      • Location set to London Bridge (even the preset London to be sure)

      • Date and time set just like in the example (double-checked 5 times)

      • Cylindrical projection (tried all of them though), offset -30%

      • FoV 210° (to have the 360° mapped to the entire screen - I have

        absolutely no idea why 180° does not work)

      • Elevation lines horizontal (although I tried moving around to align everything like in the pictures for every projection method - in vain)

      Here is the example:
      enter image description here



      Am I missing something, or is their sky map wrong? If yes, is it possible that two pieces of well-polished software like Stellarium and this one (looks just as good as Stellarium) have different star locations? How come (isn't there a standard star almanach?)?










      share|improve this question









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      I have purchased a custom wedding band from a seller that claims the ring will show the constellations visible at the horizon on a specific date at a certain date and time.



      However, I have fired up Stellarium and set it up to look at a specific example shown in the product page - and I cannot find any set of parameters which looks like it: Jupiter's not in the right place, some constellations are under the horizon (Virgo, Libra, Leo), some others very high in the sky (Andromeda, Perseus)... Although it's the first time I use Stellarium, I don't see how I could make a mistake:



      • Location set to London Bridge (even the preset London to be sure)

      • Date and time set just like in the example (double-checked 5 times)

      • Cylindrical projection (tried all of them though), offset -30%

      • FoV 210° (to have the 360° mapped to the entire screen - I have

        absolutely no idea why 180° does not work)

      • Elevation lines horizontal (although I tried moving around to align everything like in the pictures for every projection method - in vain)

      Here is the example:
      enter image description here



      Am I missing something, or is their sky map wrong? If yes, is it possible that two pieces of well-polished software like Stellarium and this one (looks just as good as Stellarium) have different star locations? How come (isn't there a standard star almanach?)?







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          If you set the date to 2018-04-06, Stellarium shows the Moon and planets in positions matching the example image.
          Any good planetarium software should produce a similar result.



          Stellarium image



          Most likely the vendor cut and pasted two screenshots (note the seam) for April 2018, overlaid "January 1973," and hoped customers would not check.
          Perhaps you could ask them to send you an image for approval before printing the ring.






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            I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
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            – Ilmari Karonen
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            @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
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            – Mike G
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            I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
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          • 1




            $begingroup$
            I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
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            @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
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          Stellarium is known to be accurate. Star and planet positions in 1973 are very well known, and correctly shown in Stellarium.



          At that time and place, Cetus and Taurus are rising in the East and North East, where Saturn is just about to rise. Lynx is on the horizon in the North. The Horizon. Bootes is about to set in the West. The sun in low on the horizon in Saggitarius in the SW. Microscopum and Sculptor are in the S and SE respectively. Jupiter is very close to the sun in Saggitarus. The moon is close to new, also in Saggitarus. Venus is also nearby in Ophiuchus. Of course the sun is up and so the stars would not have been visible at this time.






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            If you set the date to 2018-04-06, Stellarium shows the Moon and planets in positions matching the example image.
            Any good planetarium software should produce a similar result.



            Stellarium image



            Most likely the vendor cut and pasted two screenshots (note the seam) for April 2018, overlaid "January 1973," and hoped customers would not check.
            Perhaps you could ask them to send you an image for approval before printing the ring.






            share|improve this answer









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            • 5




              $begingroup$
              I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
              $endgroup$
              – Ilmari Karonen
              Aug 5 at 16:13






            • 14




              $begingroup$
              @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 5 at 16:22






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:16






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
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            • $begingroup$
              @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 6 at 15:11















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            $begingroup$

            If you set the date to 2018-04-06, Stellarium shows the Moon and planets in positions matching the example image.
            Any good planetarium software should produce a similar result.



            Stellarium image



            Most likely the vendor cut and pasted two screenshots (note the seam) for April 2018, overlaid "January 1973," and hoped customers would not check.
            Perhaps you could ask them to send you an image for approval before printing the ring.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$










            • 5




              $begingroup$
              I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
              $endgroup$
              – Ilmari Karonen
              Aug 5 at 16:13






            • 14




              $begingroup$
              @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 5 at 16:22






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:16






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:17











            • $begingroup$
              @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
              $endgroup$
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            $begingroup$

            If you set the date to 2018-04-06, Stellarium shows the Moon and planets in positions matching the example image.
            Any good planetarium software should produce a similar result.



            Stellarium image



            Most likely the vendor cut and pasted two screenshots (note the seam) for April 2018, overlaid "January 1973," and hoped customers would not check.
            Perhaps you could ask them to send you an image for approval before printing the ring.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            If you set the date to 2018-04-06, Stellarium shows the Moon and planets in positions matching the example image.
            Any good planetarium software should produce a similar result.



            Stellarium image



            Most likely the vendor cut and pasted two screenshots (note the seam) for April 2018, overlaid "January 1973," and hoped customers would not check.
            Perhaps you could ask them to send you an image for approval before printing the ring.







            share|improve this answer












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            • 5




              $begingroup$
              I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
              $endgroup$
              – Ilmari Karonen
              Aug 5 at 16:13






            • 14




              $begingroup$
              @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 5 at 16:22






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:16






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:17











            • $begingroup$
              @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 6 at 15:11












            • 5




              $begingroup$
              I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
              $endgroup$
              – Ilmari Karonen
              Aug 5 at 16:13






            • 14




              $begingroup$
              @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 5 at 16:22






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:16






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – Mister Mystère
              Aug 6 at 13:17











            • $begingroup$
              @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
              $endgroup$
              – Mike G
              Aug 6 at 15:11







            5




            5




            $begingroup$
            I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
            $endgroup$
            – Ilmari Karonen
            Aug 5 at 16:13




            $begingroup$
            I'm just being curious, but how on Earth did you manage to figure out the exact date? Did you use some plate solver software, or did you just happen to remember the positions of the Moon and the planets in April last year? Or something else?
            $endgroup$
            – Ilmari Karonen
            Aug 5 at 16:13




            14




            14




            $begingroup$
            @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
            $endgroup$
            – Mike G
            Aug 5 at 16:22




            $begingroup$
            @IlmariKaronen Stepped by years for Saturn and Jupiter, months for Mars, and days for the Moon.
            $endgroup$
            – Mike G
            Aug 5 at 16:22




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Mister Mystère
            Aug 6 at 13:16




            $begingroup$
            I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for. The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Mister Mystère
            Aug 6 at 13:16




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Mister Mystère
            Aug 6 at 13:17





            $begingroup$
            I have no idea how you found the actual date of the star landscape (witchcraft?), but this is the perfect answer I was looking for (Edit: thanks for the explanation!). The jeweller has confirmed the date and location was made up for the sake of the example, so I have placed my order and she has provided me with a correct landscape. Many thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – Mister Mystère
            Aug 6 at 13:17













            $begingroup$
            @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
            $endgroup$
            – Mike G
            Aug 6 at 15:11




            $begingroup$
            @MisterMystère A good user interface accelerates trial and error powerfully!
            $endgroup$
            – Mike G
            Aug 6 at 15:11













            5












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            Stellarium is known to be accurate. Star and planet positions in 1973 are very well known, and correctly shown in Stellarium.



            At that time and place, Cetus and Taurus are rising in the East and North East, where Saturn is just about to rise. Lynx is on the horizon in the North. The Horizon. Bootes is about to set in the West. The sun in low on the horizon in Saggitarius in the SW. Microscopum and Sculptor are in the S and SE respectively. Jupiter is very close to the sun in Saggitarus. The moon is close to new, also in Saggitarus. Venus is also nearby in Ophiuchus. Of course the sun is up and so the stars would not have been visible at this time.






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              $begingroup$

              Stellarium is known to be accurate. Star and planet positions in 1973 are very well known, and correctly shown in Stellarium.



              At that time and place, Cetus and Taurus are rising in the East and North East, where Saturn is just about to rise. Lynx is on the horizon in the North. The Horizon. Bootes is about to set in the West. The sun in low on the horizon in Saggitarius in the SW. Microscopum and Sculptor are in the S and SE respectively. Jupiter is very close to the sun in Saggitarus. The moon is close to new, also in Saggitarus. Venus is also nearby in Ophiuchus. Of course the sun is up and so the stars would not have been visible at this time.






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                5








                5





                $begingroup$

                Stellarium is known to be accurate. Star and planet positions in 1973 are very well known, and correctly shown in Stellarium.



                At that time and place, Cetus and Taurus are rising in the East and North East, where Saturn is just about to rise. Lynx is on the horizon in the North. The Horizon. Bootes is about to set in the West. The sun in low on the horizon in Saggitarius in the SW. Microscopum and Sculptor are in the S and SE respectively. Jupiter is very close to the sun in Saggitarus. The moon is close to new, also in Saggitarus. Venus is also nearby in Ophiuchus. Of course the sun is up and so the stars would not have been visible at this time.






                share|improve this answer









                $endgroup$



                Stellarium is known to be accurate. Star and planet positions in 1973 are very well known, and correctly shown in Stellarium.



                At that time and place, Cetus and Taurus are rising in the East and North East, where Saturn is just about to rise. Lynx is on the horizon in the North. The Horizon. Bootes is about to set in the West. The sun in low on the horizon in Saggitarius in the SW. Microscopum and Sculptor are in the S and SE respectively. Jupiter is very close to the sun in Saggitarus. The moon is close to new, also in Saggitarus. Venus is also nearby in Ophiuchus. Of course the sun is up and so the stars would not have been visible at this time.







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