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How to “listen” to existing circuit


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I have a joystick that is connected to an arcade board. I would like to “listen” for movement on the joystick using a Raspberry Pi or similar. The joystick runs on 12V, and I would be using the Raspberry Pi’s 3.3v GPIO.



Would a relay in series with the joystick signal wire be appropriate for this? If so would a fly back diode be recommended too?
This is the relay board that I was looking at (12V):
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/j9MIN2Y



Are there any precautions that I should take to avoid adversely affecting the existing system?



Thanks!










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    I have a joystick that is connected to an arcade board. I would like to “listen” for movement on the joystick using a Raspberry Pi or similar. The joystick runs on 12V, and I would be using the Raspberry Pi’s 3.3v GPIO.



    Would a relay in series with the joystick signal wire be appropriate for this? If so would a fly back diode be recommended too?
    This is the relay board that I was looking at (12V):
    https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/j9MIN2Y



    Are there any precautions that I should take to avoid adversely affecting the existing system?



    Thanks!










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      I have a joystick that is connected to an arcade board. I would like to “listen” for movement on the joystick using a Raspberry Pi or similar. The joystick runs on 12V, and I would be using the Raspberry Pi’s 3.3v GPIO.



      Would a relay in series with the joystick signal wire be appropriate for this? If so would a fly back diode be recommended too?
      This is the relay board that I was looking at (12V):
      https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/j9MIN2Y



      Are there any precautions that I should take to avoid adversely affecting the existing system?



      Thanks!










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      I have a joystick that is connected to an arcade board. I would like to “listen” for movement on the joystick using a Raspberry Pi or similar. The joystick runs on 12V, and I would be using the Raspberry Pi’s 3.3v GPIO.



      Would a relay in series with the joystick signal wire be appropriate for this? If so would a fly back diode be recommended too?
      This is the relay board that I was looking at (12V):
      https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/j9MIN2Y



      Are there any precautions that I should take to avoid adversely affecting the existing system?



      Thanks!







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          A relay is almost certainly NOT the right tool for the job.



          The first step in wiretapping an interface in order reverse-engineer it is to determine the nature of the signals you want to look at. For voltage signals, you need a high-impedance buffer amplifier (like the input of an oscilloscope) that will cause minimal disruption to the existing circuit. For current signals, you need a low-impedance shunt or other measurement technology (e.g., Hall-effect), like the input to a milliammeter.



          Other kinds of signals (such as capacitive, inductive or resistive sensors) might require some special ad-hoc techniques.






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            I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
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            @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
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            – Andrey Akhmetov
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            @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
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            Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
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            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:12










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            @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
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          A relay is almost certainly NOT the right tool for the job.



          The first step in wiretapping an interface in order reverse-engineer it is to determine the nature of the signals you want to look at. For voltage signals, you need a high-impedance buffer amplifier (like the input of an oscilloscope) that will cause minimal disruption to the existing circuit. For current signals, you need a low-impedance shunt or other measurement technology (e.g., Hall-effect), like the input to a milliammeter.



          Other kinds of signals (such as capacitive, inductive or resistive sensors) might require some special ad-hoc techniques.






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            I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
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          • $begingroup$
            @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
            $endgroup$
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            Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:12










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
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          $begingroup$

          A relay is almost certainly NOT the right tool for the job.



          The first step in wiretapping an interface in order reverse-engineer it is to determine the nature of the signals you want to look at. For voltage signals, you need a high-impedance buffer amplifier (like the input of an oscilloscope) that will cause minimal disruption to the existing circuit. For current signals, you need a low-impedance shunt or other measurement technology (e.g., Hall-effect), like the input to a milliammeter.



          Other kinds of signals (such as capacitive, inductive or resistive sensors) might require some special ad-hoc techniques.






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          • $begingroup$
            I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 7 at 20:04










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:02











          • $begingroup$
            Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:12










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 22:28













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          A relay is almost certainly NOT the right tool for the job.



          The first step in wiretapping an interface in order reverse-engineer it is to determine the nature of the signals you want to look at. For voltage signals, you need a high-impedance buffer amplifier (like the input of an oscilloscope) that will cause minimal disruption to the existing circuit. For current signals, you need a low-impedance shunt or other measurement technology (e.g., Hall-effect), like the input to a milliammeter.



          Other kinds of signals (such as capacitive, inductive or resistive sensors) might require some special ad-hoc techniques.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          A relay is almost certainly NOT the right tool for the job.



          The first step in wiretapping an interface in order reverse-engineer it is to determine the nature of the signals you want to look at. For voltage signals, you need a high-impedance buffer amplifier (like the input of an oscilloscope) that will cause minimal disruption to the existing circuit. For current signals, you need a low-impedance shunt or other measurement technology (e.g., Hall-effect), like the input to a milliammeter.



          Other kinds of signals (such as capacitive, inductive or resistive sensors) might require some special ad-hoc techniques.







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          • $begingroup$
            I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 7 at 20:04










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:02











          • $begingroup$
            Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:12










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 22:28
















          • $begingroup$
            I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 7 at 20:04










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 0:55










          • $begingroup$
            @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:02











          • $begingroup$
            Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
            $endgroup$
            – Michael
            Jun 8 at 20:12










          • $begingroup$
            @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
            $endgroup$
            – Andrey Akhmetov
            Jun 8 at 22:28















          $begingroup$
          I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
          $endgroup$
          – Michael
          Jun 7 at 20:04




          $begingroup$
          I'm glad I asked before buying one. Would this coupled with an ADC be any use? i1.wp.com/henrysbench.capnfatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/…
          $endgroup$
          – Michael
          Jun 7 at 20:04












          $begingroup$
          @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
          $endgroup$
          – Andrey Akhmetov
          Jun 8 at 0:55




          $begingroup$
          @Michael You should first determine if the signal is in fact a current signal and not a voltage or modulated signal. The ACS712 is designed for well one ampere so it's probably inappropriate even for a current-signal joystick.
          $endgroup$
          – Andrey Akhmetov
          Jun 8 at 0:55












          $begingroup$
          @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael
          Jun 8 at 20:02





          $begingroup$
          @AndreyAkhmetov Since I am just interested in whether the circuit is open or closed, does it matter whether I check for voltage or current? As far as I am aware, the joystick mechanism is just a microswitch for each direction, the signal wire goes from the board to the microswitch, and then to ground back on the board.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael
          Jun 8 at 20:02













          $begingroup$
          Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael
          Jun 8 at 20:12




          $begingroup$
          Actually, I'm not even particularly interested in which direction the joystick is being moved, so if there was a way to "listen' on the common ground wire coming out of the joystick then that would be even better for me.
          $endgroup$
          – Michael
          Jun 8 at 20:12












          $begingroup$
          @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
          $endgroup$
          – Andrey Akhmetov
          Jun 8 at 22:28




          $begingroup$
          @Michael We've been under the assumption that we're interested in whether the switch is open/closed. If it's such a connection to ground then there's a decent chance that it's a voltage signal; check with test equipment to make certain (since you have the board and joystick available while we have to guess)
          $endgroup$
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          Jun 8 at 22:28










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