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Showing that a language is NP Complete (advice)


Does FNP-complete = NP-complete?Which NPC problems are NP HardWhy is the class NP-Complete important compared to NP-hard?Showing a problem is NP complete? Reducing CLIQUE to KITE.Is the “modular subset product” problem NP-complete?Do there exist “O(1)-complete” problems?Mahaney's theorem and converting SAT to equivalent languageAre there NP COMPLETE problems that are “easy” in practice?Find a language $L$, such that $L notin mathbfP$, but $L^* in mathbfP$If P = NP, does SAT, or any other NP-Complete poly-reduce to any language different from $emptyset$ or $Sigma^*$?






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I am currently getting ready for my final exam in computational models. I know that there aren't any rules or rule of thumb to show that a language is NP-complete and each problem has its own tricks, but I am really struggling with questions where they give me a language and showing that the language is NP-complete by showing that an NPC problem is polynomial reducible to the given language.



So I wanted to ask for advice. How can I approach such problems? Are there any steps that I can take before to help me somehow? Or is it just literally figuring out which NPC problem is "closest" to the the given language and try to construct a polynomial reduction?



I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you.










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    I am currently getting ready for my final exam in computational models. I know that there aren't any rules or rule of thumb to show that a language is NP-complete and each problem has its own tricks, but I am really struggling with questions where they give me a language and showing that the language is NP-complete by showing that an NPC problem is polynomial reducible to the given language.



    So I wanted to ask for advice. How can I approach such problems? Are there any steps that I can take before to help me somehow? Or is it just literally figuring out which NPC problem is "closest" to the the given language and try to construct a polynomial reduction?



    I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you.










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      I am currently getting ready for my final exam in computational models. I know that there aren't any rules or rule of thumb to show that a language is NP-complete and each problem has its own tricks, but I am really struggling with questions where they give me a language and showing that the language is NP-complete by showing that an NPC problem is polynomial reducible to the given language.



      So I wanted to ask for advice. How can I approach such problems? Are there any steps that I can take before to help me somehow? Or is it just literally figuring out which NPC problem is "closest" to the the given language and try to construct a polynomial reduction?



      I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you.










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      I am currently getting ready for my final exam in computational models. I know that there aren't any rules or rule of thumb to show that a language is NP-complete and each problem has its own tricks, but I am really struggling with questions where they give me a language and showing that the language is NP-complete by showing that an NPC problem is polynomial reducible to the given language.



      So I wanted to ask for advice. How can I approach such problems? Are there any steps that I can take before to help me somehow? Or is it just literally figuring out which NPC problem is "closest" to the the given language and try to construct a polynomial reduction?



      I'd appreciate any advice. Thank you.







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          Typically, yes, it's a matter of finding a known NP-complete problem that's somehow similar to the one you're trying to work with. So if you're dealing with a problem about formulas, you probably want to reduce some version of SAT or 3SAT to it.



          For graph problems, you probably want to reduce some other graph problem. Problems about long paths and cycles probably come from Hamiltonian path/cycle. Problems about classifying vertices into types sound like colouring problems. Problems about graphs containing or not containing some structure might come from clique or independent set. Problems about dividing graphs in two might be Max Cut, or Subset Sum.



          Reductions from one type of problem to another are typically more difficult. If you ahve to do that, think about how you can use your target problem to encode things that are needed in the known NP-complete problem. For example, when you reduce 3SAT to independent set, being in or out of the independent set corresponds to being true or false; when you reduce 3SAT to 3-colourability, the three colours you use are "true", "false" and "er, the other colour". But, in these cases, the reduction gadgets tend to be quite fiddly.



          Another thing to bear in mind is that, if problem $A$ looks like problem $B$, which you already know to be NP-complete, it might be possible to modify that proof to make it work for $A$. For example, consider 4-colourability. The easy reduction is from 3-colourability: given a graph $G$, add a new vertex, connect that to everything and the new graph is 4-colourable if, and only if, the original graph was 3-colourable. But, if you didn't see that and you knew the reduction from 3SAT to 3-colourability well, it probably wouldn't be very hard to modify that reduction so the four colours were "true", "false", "er, the other colour" and "gee, there are a lot of colours today".






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          Typically, yes, it's a matter of finding a known NP-complete problem that's somehow similar to the one you're trying to work with. So if you're dealing with a problem about formulas, you probably want to reduce some version of SAT or 3SAT to it.



          For graph problems, you probably want to reduce some other graph problem. Problems about long paths and cycles probably come from Hamiltonian path/cycle. Problems about classifying vertices into types sound like colouring problems. Problems about graphs containing or not containing some structure might come from clique or independent set. Problems about dividing graphs in two might be Max Cut, or Subset Sum.



          Reductions from one type of problem to another are typically more difficult. If you ahve to do that, think about how you can use your target problem to encode things that are needed in the known NP-complete problem. For example, when you reduce 3SAT to independent set, being in or out of the independent set corresponds to being true or false; when you reduce 3SAT to 3-colourability, the three colours you use are "true", "false" and "er, the other colour". But, in these cases, the reduction gadgets tend to be quite fiddly.



          Another thing to bear in mind is that, if problem $A$ looks like problem $B$, which you already know to be NP-complete, it might be possible to modify that proof to make it work for $A$. For example, consider 4-colourability. The easy reduction is from 3-colourability: given a graph $G$, add a new vertex, connect that to everything and the new graph is 4-colourable if, and only if, the original graph was 3-colourable. But, if you didn't see that and you knew the reduction from 3SAT to 3-colourability well, it probably wouldn't be very hard to modify that reduction so the four colours were "true", "false", "er, the other colour" and "gee, there are a lot of colours today".






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          Typically, yes, it's a matter of finding a known NP-complete problem that's somehow similar to the one you're trying to work with. So if you're dealing with a problem about formulas, you probably want to reduce some version of SAT or 3SAT to it.



          For graph problems, you probably want to reduce some other graph problem. Problems about long paths and cycles probably come from Hamiltonian path/cycle. Problems about classifying vertices into types sound like colouring problems. Problems about graphs containing or not containing some structure might come from clique or independent set. Problems about dividing graphs in two might be Max Cut, or Subset Sum.



          Reductions from one type of problem to another are typically more difficult. If you ahve to do that, think about how you can use your target problem to encode things that are needed in the known NP-complete problem. For example, when you reduce 3SAT to independent set, being in or out of the independent set corresponds to being true or false; when you reduce 3SAT to 3-colourability, the three colours you use are "true", "false" and "er, the other colour". But, in these cases, the reduction gadgets tend to be quite fiddly.



          Another thing to bear in mind is that, if problem $A$ looks like problem $B$, which you already know to be NP-complete, it might be possible to modify that proof to make it work for $A$. For example, consider 4-colourability. The easy reduction is from 3-colourability: given a graph $G$, add a new vertex, connect that to everything and the new graph is 4-colourable if, and only if, the original graph was 3-colourable. But, if you didn't see that and you knew the reduction from 3SAT to 3-colourability well, it probably wouldn't be very hard to modify that reduction so the four colours were "true", "false", "er, the other colour" and "gee, there are a lot of colours today".






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          Typically, yes, it's a matter of finding a known NP-complete problem that's somehow similar to the one you're trying to work with. So if you're dealing with a problem about formulas, you probably want to reduce some version of SAT or 3SAT to it.



          For graph problems, you probably want to reduce some other graph problem. Problems about long paths and cycles probably come from Hamiltonian path/cycle. Problems about classifying vertices into types sound like colouring problems. Problems about graphs containing or not containing some structure might come from clique or independent set. Problems about dividing graphs in two might be Max Cut, or Subset Sum.



          Reductions from one type of problem to another are typically more difficult. If you ahve to do that, think about how you can use your target problem to encode things that are needed in the known NP-complete problem. For example, when you reduce 3SAT to independent set, being in or out of the independent set corresponds to being true or false; when you reduce 3SAT to 3-colourability, the three colours you use are "true", "false" and "er, the other colour". But, in these cases, the reduction gadgets tend to be quite fiddly.



          Another thing to bear in mind is that, if problem $A$ looks like problem $B$, which you already know to be NP-complete, it might be possible to modify that proof to make it work for $A$. For example, consider 4-colourability. The easy reduction is from 3-colourability: given a graph $G$, add a new vertex, connect that to everything and the new graph is 4-colourable if, and only if, the original graph was 3-colourable. But, if you didn't see that and you knew the reduction from 3SAT to 3-colourability well, it probably wouldn't be very hard to modify that reduction so the four colours were "true", "false", "er, the other colour" and "gee, there are a lot of colours today".






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          Typically, yes, it's a matter of finding a known NP-complete problem that's somehow similar to the one you're trying to work with. So if you're dealing with a problem about formulas, you probably want to reduce some version of SAT or 3SAT to it.



          For graph problems, you probably want to reduce some other graph problem. Problems about long paths and cycles probably come from Hamiltonian path/cycle. Problems about classifying vertices into types sound like colouring problems. Problems about graphs containing or not containing some structure might come from clique or independent set. Problems about dividing graphs in two might be Max Cut, or Subset Sum.



          Reductions from one type of problem to another are typically more difficult. If you ahve to do that, think about how you can use your target problem to encode things that are needed in the known NP-complete problem. For example, when you reduce 3SAT to independent set, being in or out of the independent set corresponds to being true or false; when you reduce 3SAT to 3-colourability, the three colours you use are "true", "false" and "er, the other colour". But, in these cases, the reduction gadgets tend to be quite fiddly.



          Another thing to bear in mind is that, if problem $A$ looks like problem $B$, which you already know to be NP-complete, it might be possible to modify that proof to make it work for $A$. For example, consider 4-colourability. The easy reduction is from 3-colourability: given a graph $G$, add a new vertex, connect that to everything and the new graph is 4-colourable if, and only if, the original graph was 3-colourable. But, if you didn't see that and you knew the reduction from 3SAT to 3-colourability well, it probably wouldn't be very hard to modify that reduction so the four colours were "true", "false", "er, the other colour" and "gee, there are a lot of colours today".







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