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Is 悪いところを見つかった proper Japanese?


「を」 object marker in this 受身形うけみけい sentenceCan ご存じです function as a transitive verb?Do “direct object を” and “directional を” occupy the same slot?How would one say A implies B in Japanese?私は猫が好き and 猫は私が好きJapanese grammar structure order~られる connotationsMembership awareness to differentiate は and が?Emphasizing parts of sentence with 大抵 (たいてい, usually)Usage of なら as described in Genki II is confusing to meUse of が in プラス50円でキャラメルラテかカフェラテがお選び頂けますが。






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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be



悪いところが見つかった。



or otherwise



悪いところを見つけた。



This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.










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    not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.

    – Felipe Oliveira
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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be



悪いところが見つかった。



or otherwise



悪いところを見つけた。



This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.










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    not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.

    – Felipe Oliveira
    Aug 12 at 19:05













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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be



悪いところが見つかった。



or otherwise



悪いところを見つけた。



This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.










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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be



悪いところが見つかった。



or otherwise



悪いところを見つけた。



This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.







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  • 1





    not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.

    – Felipe Oliveira
    Aug 12 at 19:05












  • 1





    not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.

    – Felipe Oliveira
    Aug 12 at 19:05







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not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.

– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05





not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.

– Felipe Oliveira
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Different Meanings of 「ところ」




「悪わるいところ見つかった。」




is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:




"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."




In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.



「~~見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.



The sentence:




「悪いところ見つかった。」




however, means a completely different thing. It means:




"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."




「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.






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  • How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

    – kohaku
    Aug 12 at 22:30






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    @kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

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Different Meanings of 「ところ」




「悪わるいところ見つかった。」




is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:




"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."




In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.



「~~見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.



The sentence:




「悪いところ見つかった。」




however, means a completely different thing. It means:




"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."




「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.






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  • How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

    – kohaku
    Aug 12 at 22:30






  • 1





    @kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

    – broccoli forest
    Aug 14 at 10:00
















8















Different Meanings of 「ところ」




「悪わるいところ見つかった。」




is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:




"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."




In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.



「~~見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.



The sentence:




「悪いところ見つかった。」




however, means a completely different thing. It means:




"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."




「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.






share|improve this answer



























  • How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

    – kohaku
    Aug 12 at 22:30






  • 1





    @kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

    – broccoli forest
    Aug 14 at 10:00














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8









Different Meanings of 「ところ」




「悪わるいところ見つかった。」




is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:




"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."




In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.



「~~見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.



The sentence:




「悪いところ見つかった。」




however, means a completely different thing. It means:




"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."




「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.






share|improve this answer















Different Meanings of 「ところ」




「悪わるいところ見つかった。」




is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:




"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."




In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.



「~~見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.



The sentence:




「悪いところ見つかった。」




however, means a completely different thing. It means:




"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."




「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.







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  • How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

    – kohaku
    Aug 12 at 22:30






  • 1





    @kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

    – broccoli forest
    Aug 14 at 10:00


















  • How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

    – kohaku
    Aug 12 at 22:30






  • 1





    @kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

    – broccoli forest
    Aug 14 at 10:00

















How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30





How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?

– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30




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@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00






@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)

– broccoli forest
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