Can we see the USA flag on the Moon from Earth? [duplicate] Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Were the Apollo lunar activities observed from Earth?How did the Apollo astronauts train for the 1/6G lunar landing?What is the marginal cost of *landing* on the Moon?Why didn't Apollo land on the Lunar poles?When Chang'e-3 landed on the moon, did LADEE notice?How might the Lunar X Prize contestant spacecraft have navigated their descent from orbit, to landing?What was learned from study of Surveyor-3's components, retrieved and returned to Earth by Apollo-12?What colors were used in the Apollo Lunar Module interior, and why?How would the Apollo telescope have worked in the Apollo command module? Where would it be located and how would it be operated?Was there a technical reason why Apollo 10 didn't land on the moon?Launch window for the Apollo Lunar Module?
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Can we see the USA flag on the Moon from Earth? [duplicate]
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Were the Apollo lunar activities observed from Earth?How did the Apollo astronauts train for the 1/6G lunar landing?What is the marginal cost of *landing* on the Moon?Why didn't Apollo land on the Lunar poles?When Chang'e-3 landed on the moon, did LADEE notice?How might the Lunar X Prize contestant spacecraft have navigated their descent from orbit, to landing?What was learned from study of Surveyor-3's components, retrieved and returned to Earth by Apollo-12?What colors were used in the Apollo Lunar Module interior, and why?How would the Apollo telescope have worked in the Apollo command module? Where would it be located and how would it be operated?Was there a technical reason why Apollo 10 didn't land on the moon?Launch window for the Apollo Lunar Module?
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Is it possible one day to see landing site flags on the Moon from Earth or from space without having to land using a telescope as technology progresses?
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Is it possible one day to see landing site flags on the Moon from Earth or from space without having to land using a telescope as technology progresses?
Highly Related: Were the Apollo lunar activities observed from Earth?
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Directly from the Earth, the answer is no, but as the answer says, we can see it from Moon orbit.
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Although the other question is related it is not a duplicate it is talking about something a 1969. Where mine is asking for current technology.
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The revision doesn't make the question better, imho. The fundamental physical problems stay the same, and everything else is pure speculation. Its already possible to see it from space, you just need to get into a lunar orbit - the lower the better you can see it.
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Is it possible one day to see landing site flags on the Moon from Earth or from space without having to land using a telescope as technology progresses?
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Is it possible one day to see landing site flags on the Moon from Earth or from space without having to land using a telescope as technology progresses?
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Directly from the Earth, the answer is no, but as the answer says, we can see it from Moon orbit.
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Although the other question is related it is not a duplicate it is talking about something a 1969. Where mine is asking for current technology.
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The revision doesn't make the question better, imho. The fundamental physical problems stay the same, and everything else is pure speculation. Its already possible to see it from space, you just need to get into a lunar orbit - the lower the better you can see it.
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Directly from the Earth, the answer is no, but as the answer says, we can see it from Moon orbit.
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– peterh
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Although the other question is related it is not a duplicate it is talking about something a 1969. Where mine is asking for current technology.
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– Muze
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The revision doesn't make the question better, imho. The fundamental physical problems stay the same, and everything else is pure speculation. Its already possible to see it from space, you just need to get into a lunar orbit - the lower the better you can see it.
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@Antzi fixed it thanks.
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Directly from the Earth, the answer is no, but as the answer says, we can see it from Moon orbit.
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– peterh
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Directly from the Earth, the answer is no, but as the answer says, we can see it from Moon orbit.
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– peterh
2 days ago
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Although the other question is related it is not a duplicate it is talking about something a 1969. Where mine is asking for current technology.
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– Muze
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Although the other question is related it is not a duplicate it is talking about something a 1969. Where mine is asking for current technology.
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– Muze
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The revision doesn't make the question better, imho. The fundamental physical problems stay the same, and everything else is pure speculation. Its already possible to see it from space, you just need to get into a lunar orbit - the lower the better you can see it.
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– Polygnome
2 days ago
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The revision doesn't make the question better, imho. The fundamental physical problems stay the same, and everything else is pure speculation. Its already possible to see it from space, you just need to get into a lunar orbit - the lower the better you can see it.
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I am not aware of an optical telescope capable of showing proof from earth. Part of the reason is the flags are pretty small and it's a very long distance. However, you can see the flags or what is left of them and the landing sites using images from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).
The LRO was able to use it's camera to document all of the Apollo landing sites. In 2011, Eric M. Jones collated the images to show the conditions of the landing sites and evidence of the condition flags was presented.
Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin indicated he saw the flag knocked over on liftoff from the moon.
This quote was from the manufacturer:
Dennis Lacarrubba, whose New Jersey-based company, Annin, made the
flag
and sold it to NASA for $5.50 in 1969, considers what might happen to an
ordinary nylon flag left outside for 39 years on Earth, let alone on the moon.
He thinks for a few seconds. “I can’t believe there would be anything left,”
he concludes. “I gotta be honest with you. It’s gonna be ashes.”
Apollo 12
Apollo 14 and 15 had no evidence from the images of the flags. It was thought they may have been destroyed by the exhaust gases on liftoff.
Apollo 16
Apollo 17
More Information
- https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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A flag would be about five hundred micro arcseconds. (about 1 meter, at around 375 Mm)
The Event Horizon Telescope has a resolution of about 20 micro arcseconds.
Therefore, EHT could resolve a flag on the surface of the moon if it were a radio source.
However, to view it optically would require around a 350 meter aperture. The largest 'single' telescope today is around 10 meters
The Cambridge Optical Aperture Synthesis Telescope (COAST) - the largest I'm aware of - can resolve to around 1000 micro arcseconds, so wouldn't be able to see a flag.
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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I am not aware of an optical telescope capable of showing proof from earth. Part of the reason is the flags are pretty small and it's a very long distance. However, you can see the flags or what is left of them and the landing sites using images from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).
The LRO was able to use it's camera to document all of the Apollo landing sites. In 2011, Eric M. Jones collated the images to show the conditions of the landing sites and evidence of the condition flags was presented.
Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin indicated he saw the flag knocked over on liftoff from the moon.
This quote was from the manufacturer:
Dennis Lacarrubba, whose New Jersey-based company, Annin, made the
flag
and sold it to NASA for $5.50 in 1969, considers what might happen to an
ordinary nylon flag left outside for 39 years on Earth, let alone on the moon.
He thinks for a few seconds. “I can’t believe there would be anything left,”
he concludes. “I gotta be honest with you. It’s gonna be ashes.”
Apollo 12
Apollo 14 and 15 had no evidence from the images of the flags. It was thought they may have been destroyed by the exhaust gases on liftoff.
Apollo 16
Apollo 17
More Information
- https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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– Jakuje
2 days ago
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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– gwally
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I am not aware of an optical telescope capable of showing proof from earth. Part of the reason is the flags are pretty small and it's a very long distance. However, you can see the flags or what is left of them and the landing sites using images from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).
The LRO was able to use it's camera to document all of the Apollo landing sites. In 2011, Eric M. Jones collated the images to show the conditions of the landing sites and evidence of the condition flags was presented.
Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin indicated he saw the flag knocked over on liftoff from the moon.
This quote was from the manufacturer:
Dennis Lacarrubba, whose New Jersey-based company, Annin, made the
flag
and sold it to NASA for $5.50 in 1969, considers what might happen to an
ordinary nylon flag left outside for 39 years on Earth, let alone on the moon.
He thinks for a few seconds. “I can’t believe there would be anything left,”
he concludes. “I gotta be honest with you. It’s gonna be ashes.”
Apollo 12
Apollo 14 and 15 had no evidence from the images of the flags. It was thought they may have been destroyed by the exhaust gases on liftoff.
Apollo 16
Apollo 17
More Information
- https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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– Jakuje
2 days ago
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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– gwally
2 days ago
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I am not aware of an optical telescope capable of showing proof from earth. Part of the reason is the flags are pretty small and it's a very long distance. However, you can see the flags or what is left of them and the landing sites using images from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).
The LRO was able to use it's camera to document all of the Apollo landing sites. In 2011, Eric M. Jones collated the images to show the conditions of the landing sites and evidence of the condition flags was presented.
Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin indicated he saw the flag knocked over on liftoff from the moon.
This quote was from the manufacturer:
Dennis Lacarrubba, whose New Jersey-based company, Annin, made the
flag
and sold it to NASA for $5.50 in 1969, considers what might happen to an
ordinary nylon flag left outside for 39 years on Earth, let alone on the moon.
He thinks for a few seconds. “I can’t believe there would be anything left,”
he concludes. “I gotta be honest with you. It’s gonna be ashes.”
Apollo 12
Apollo 14 and 15 had no evidence from the images of the flags. It was thought they may have been destroyed by the exhaust gases on liftoff.
Apollo 16
Apollo 17
More Information
- https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html
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I am not aware of an optical telescope capable of showing proof from earth. Part of the reason is the flags are pretty small and it's a very long distance. However, you can see the flags or what is left of them and the landing sites using images from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO).
The LRO was able to use it's camera to document all of the Apollo landing sites. In 2011, Eric M. Jones collated the images to show the conditions of the landing sites and evidence of the condition flags was presented.
Apollo 11
Buzz Aldrin indicated he saw the flag knocked over on liftoff from the moon.
This quote was from the manufacturer:
Dennis Lacarrubba, whose New Jersey-based company, Annin, made the
flag
and sold it to NASA for $5.50 in 1969, considers what might happen to an
ordinary nylon flag left outside for 39 years on Earth, let alone on the moon.
He thinks for a few seconds. “I can’t believe there would be anything left,”
he concludes. “I gotta be honest with you. It’s gonna be ashes.”
Apollo 12
Apollo 14 and 15 had no evidence from the images of the flags. It was thought they may have been destroyed by the exhaust gases on liftoff.
Apollo 16
Apollo 17
More Information
- https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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– Jakuje
2 days ago
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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– gwally
2 days ago
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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– Jakuje
2 days ago
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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– gwally
2 days ago
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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– Jakuje
2 days ago
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Interesting, but not expolicitly answering the question. Yes, you can see a flag shadows from moon orbit, but the question was about the flag and about the observation source Earth.
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– Jakuje
2 days ago
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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– gwally
2 days ago
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@Muse seems to think the moon landings were faked. I posted this to show there are photos of the landing sites. I'll add the fact you can't see them from the earth.
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– gwally
2 days ago
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A flag would be about five hundred micro arcseconds. (about 1 meter, at around 375 Mm)
The Event Horizon Telescope has a resolution of about 20 micro arcseconds.
Therefore, EHT could resolve a flag on the surface of the moon if it were a radio source.
However, to view it optically would require around a 350 meter aperture. The largest 'single' telescope today is around 10 meters
The Cambridge Optical Aperture Synthesis Telescope (COAST) - the largest I'm aware of - can resolve to around 1000 micro arcseconds, so wouldn't be able to see a flag.
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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– JCRM
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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A flag would be about five hundred micro arcseconds. (about 1 meter, at around 375 Mm)
The Event Horizon Telescope has a resolution of about 20 micro arcseconds.
Therefore, EHT could resolve a flag on the surface of the moon if it were a radio source.
However, to view it optically would require around a 350 meter aperture. The largest 'single' telescope today is around 10 meters
The Cambridge Optical Aperture Synthesis Telescope (COAST) - the largest I'm aware of - can resolve to around 1000 micro arcseconds, so wouldn't be able to see a flag.
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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– JCRM
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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– undefined
2 days ago
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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– JCRM
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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A flag would be about five hundred micro arcseconds. (about 1 meter, at around 375 Mm)
The Event Horizon Telescope has a resolution of about 20 micro arcseconds.
Therefore, EHT could resolve a flag on the surface of the moon if it were a radio source.
However, to view it optically would require around a 350 meter aperture. The largest 'single' telescope today is around 10 meters
The Cambridge Optical Aperture Synthesis Telescope (COAST) - the largest I'm aware of - can resolve to around 1000 micro arcseconds, so wouldn't be able to see a flag.
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A flag would be about five hundred micro arcseconds. (about 1 meter, at around 375 Mm)
The Event Horizon Telescope has a resolution of about 20 micro arcseconds.
Therefore, EHT could resolve a flag on the surface of the moon if it were a radio source.
However, to view it optically would require around a 350 meter aperture. The largest 'single' telescope today is around 10 meters
The Cambridge Optical Aperture Synthesis Telescope (COAST) - the largest I'm aware of - can resolve to around 1000 micro arcseconds, so wouldn't be able to see a flag.
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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– undefined
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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– JCRM
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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– JCRM
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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– undefined
2 days ago
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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– JCRM
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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– JCRM
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oops, previous answer was out by a $10^3$, changing the outcome.
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– JCRM
2 days ago
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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– undefined
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hope it's not offtopic but would it be possible to couple optical telescopes in the same way the EHT did?
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– undefined
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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– JCRM
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That's largely what COAST does @undefined, except optically not analytically. To complicate things, one also needs to collect enough light to see it, so it would need a large collection surface, as well as aperture (even with long exposure times)
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– JCRM
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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– undefined
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oh thank you, JCRM. I thought the COAST is only one large telescope and not many. Thank you :)
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@Antzi fixed it thanks.
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– Muze
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Directly from the Earth, the answer is no, but as the answer says, we can see it from Moon orbit.
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– peterh
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Although the other question is related it is not a duplicate it is talking about something a 1969. Where mine is asking for current technology.
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The revision doesn't make the question better, imho. The fundamental physical problems stay the same, and everything else is pure speculation. Its already possible to see it from space, you just need to get into a lunar orbit - the lower the better you can see it.
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– Polygnome
2 days ago