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Was Willow's first magic display (blazing arrow through arm) actual magic, and if not, what's the trick?







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At the beginning of Willow, before the wizard chooses his apprentice for the year, Willow participates in a Nelwyn fair where he demonstrates two magic tricks:



  • pushing a blazing arrow through a cylinder he wears on his arm (so supposedly, the burning arrow goes through his arm as well) while staying unscathed;

  • making a piglet disappear.

The piglet's disappearance is quickly shown to be some sleight-of-hand trick (the piglet was under the stage), which implies the arrow thing was a setup as well.








However, throughout the movie, it seems Willow already has a bit of experience with magic. Sure, he's not really good at it, (transforming Fin Raziel into a crow instead of her human shape, etc.) but the impression I had, through him uttering the words and all, was that Willow had actually practiced some magic already.



Thus, I'm curious whether the fire arrow trick may have been actual magic? It could still be a trick, but in this case I'm wondering what the trick is. The cylinder doesn't look wide enough for Willow to push his arm to the side and have the arrow going besides it, and anyway he would have been burned.



Googling terms like willow nelwyn magic trick explained or magic trick fire arrow through arm don't seem to bring up anything relevant, except a "stage magic" wikia page which doesn't say much more than "illusions."



Is there an answer as to how Willow seemingly managed to push a blazing arrow through his arm? I've only seen the movie, not read any novels; perhaps there is an answer there.










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    Given how large the cylinder is (it actually looks like a hollow log to me) compared to his arm, I'm sure it's just a matter of the arrow passing beside his arm. To keep from being burned, he could have put a cloth tube in there (that the arrow passes through) to insulate his skin. Or he could just have done it quickly; those flames are not that hot otherwise a "fire-eater" would get burned by incidental contact.

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    It's an illusion.

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At the beginning of Willow, before the wizard chooses his apprentice for the year, Willow participates in a Nelwyn fair where he demonstrates two magic tricks:



  • pushing a blazing arrow through a cylinder he wears on his arm (so supposedly, the burning arrow goes through his arm as well) while staying unscathed;

  • making a piglet disappear.

The piglet's disappearance is quickly shown to be some sleight-of-hand trick (the piglet was under the stage), which implies the arrow thing was a setup as well.








However, throughout the movie, it seems Willow already has a bit of experience with magic. Sure, he's not really good at it, (transforming Fin Raziel into a crow instead of her human shape, etc.) but the impression I had, through him uttering the words and all, was that Willow had actually practiced some magic already.



Thus, I'm curious whether the fire arrow trick may have been actual magic? It could still be a trick, but in this case I'm wondering what the trick is. The cylinder doesn't look wide enough for Willow to push his arm to the side and have the arrow going besides it, and anyway he would have been burned.



Googling terms like willow nelwyn magic trick explained or magic trick fire arrow through arm don't seem to bring up anything relevant, except a "stage magic" wikia page which doesn't say much more than "illusions."



Is there an answer as to how Willow seemingly managed to push a blazing arrow through his arm? I've only seen the movie, not read any novels; perhaps there is an answer there.










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    Given how large the cylinder is (it actually looks like a hollow log to me) compared to his arm, I'm sure it's just a matter of the arrow passing beside his arm. To keep from being burned, he could have put a cloth tube in there (that the arrow passes through) to insulate his skin. Or he could just have done it quickly; those flames are not that hot otherwise a "fire-eater" would get burned by incidental contact.

    – DavidW
    Jul 15 at 14:42






  • 1





    It's an illusion.

    – Acccumulation
    Jul 15 at 17:14













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At the beginning of Willow, before the wizard chooses his apprentice for the year, Willow participates in a Nelwyn fair where he demonstrates two magic tricks:



  • pushing a blazing arrow through a cylinder he wears on his arm (so supposedly, the burning arrow goes through his arm as well) while staying unscathed;

  • making a piglet disappear.

The piglet's disappearance is quickly shown to be some sleight-of-hand trick (the piglet was under the stage), which implies the arrow thing was a setup as well.








However, throughout the movie, it seems Willow already has a bit of experience with magic. Sure, he's not really good at it, (transforming Fin Raziel into a crow instead of her human shape, etc.) but the impression I had, through him uttering the words and all, was that Willow had actually practiced some magic already.



Thus, I'm curious whether the fire arrow trick may have been actual magic? It could still be a trick, but in this case I'm wondering what the trick is. The cylinder doesn't look wide enough for Willow to push his arm to the side and have the arrow going besides it, and anyway he would have been burned.



Googling terms like willow nelwyn magic trick explained or magic trick fire arrow through arm don't seem to bring up anything relevant, except a "stage magic" wikia page which doesn't say much more than "illusions."



Is there an answer as to how Willow seemingly managed to push a blazing arrow through his arm? I've only seen the movie, not read any novels; perhaps there is an answer there.










share|improve this question
















At the beginning of Willow, before the wizard chooses his apprentice for the year, Willow participates in a Nelwyn fair where he demonstrates two magic tricks:



  • pushing a blazing arrow through a cylinder he wears on his arm (so supposedly, the burning arrow goes through his arm as well) while staying unscathed;

  • making a piglet disappear.

The piglet's disappearance is quickly shown to be some sleight-of-hand trick (the piglet was under the stage), which implies the arrow thing was a setup as well.








However, throughout the movie, it seems Willow already has a bit of experience with magic. Sure, he's not really good at it, (transforming Fin Raziel into a crow instead of her human shape, etc.) but the impression I had, through him uttering the words and all, was that Willow had actually practiced some magic already.



Thus, I'm curious whether the fire arrow trick may have been actual magic? It could still be a trick, but in this case I'm wondering what the trick is. The cylinder doesn't look wide enough for Willow to push his arm to the side and have the arrow going besides it, and anyway he would have been burned.



Googling terms like willow nelwyn magic trick explained or magic trick fire arrow through arm don't seem to bring up anything relevant, except a "stage magic" wikia page which doesn't say much more than "illusions."



Is there an answer as to how Willow seemingly managed to push a blazing arrow through his arm? I've only seen the movie, not read any novels; perhaps there is an answer there.















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    Given how large the cylinder is (it actually looks like a hollow log to me) compared to his arm, I'm sure it's just a matter of the arrow passing beside his arm. To keep from being burned, he could have put a cloth tube in there (that the arrow passes through) to insulate his skin. Or he could just have done it quickly; those flames are not that hot otherwise a "fire-eater" would get burned by incidental contact.

    – DavidW
    Jul 15 at 14:42






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    It's an illusion.

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    Jul 15 at 17:14












  • 1





    Given how large the cylinder is (it actually looks like a hollow log to me) compared to his arm, I'm sure it's just a matter of the arrow passing beside his arm. To keep from being burned, he could have put a cloth tube in there (that the arrow passes through) to insulate his skin. Or he could just have done it quickly; those flames are not that hot otherwise a "fire-eater" would get burned by incidental contact.

    – DavidW
    Jul 15 at 14:42






  • 1





    It's an illusion.

    – Acccumulation
    Jul 15 at 17:14







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Given how large the cylinder is (it actually looks like a hollow log to me) compared to his arm, I'm sure it's just a matter of the arrow passing beside his arm. To keep from being burned, he could have put a cloth tube in there (that the arrow passes through) to insulate his skin. Or he could just have done it quickly; those flames are not that hot otherwise a "fire-eater" would get burned by incidental contact.

– DavidW
Jul 15 at 14:42





Given how large the cylinder is (it actually looks like a hollow log to me) compared to his arm, I'm sure it's just a matter of the arrow passing beside his arm. To keep from being burned, he could have put a cloth tube in there (that the arrow passes through) to insulate his skin. Or he could just have done it quickly; those flames are not that hot otherwise a "fire-eater" would get burned by incidental contact.

– DavidW
Jul 15 at 14:42




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It's an illusion.

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It appears to be based directly on this trick. Thus I assume it is meant to be sleight of hand like the piglet trick.






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  • youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

    – Kai
    Jul 15 at 16:13






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    For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

    – Valorum
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    @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

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    I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

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The film's official novelisation confirms that Willow performed a variety of "tricks" (i.e. not magic) before the piglet illusion.




But Willow had his own cheering-section, and they were so enthusiastic
that they even drew some curious spectators away from the tug-of-war.
Willow’s boyhood friend, Meegosh. stood solidly in his leather miner’s
apron, one arm around Ranon and the other around Mims. All three
wildly applauded every trick,
even the old
pull-the-feathers-out-of-nowhere maneuver, which Willow actually did
quite well. Meegosh slapped his apron and yelled, “Bravo! Bravo!” so
lustily that he attracted the attention of Burglekutt. The Prefect
watched disdainfully from across the fairgrounds, pudgy hands spread
on his stomach.



Willow: Official Novelisation




As to how it was performed, it's typically done by having the arm simply be out of the way of the candle. The holes (in this case knotholes) are placed in such a way that they look like they're opposite, but in reality they're slightly offset, leaving enough space for the arm. You can see the illusion performed here








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    It appears to be based directly on this trick. Thus I assume it is meant to be sleight of hand like the piglet trick.






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    • youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

      – Kai
      Jul 15 at 16:13






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      For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

      – Valorum
      Jul 15 at 16:13







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      @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

      – Acccumulation
      Jul 15 at 17:13






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      I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

      – Draco18s
      Jul 16 at 14:52















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    It appears to be based directly on this trick. Thus I assume it is meant to be sleight of hand like the piglet trick.






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    • youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

      – Kai
      Jul 15 at 16:13






    • 5





      For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

      – Valorum
      Jul 15 at 16:13







    • 1





      @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

      – Acccumulation
      Jul 15 at 17:13






    • 1





      I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

      – Draco18s
      Jul 16 at 14:52













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    • youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

      – Kai
      Jul 15 at 16:13






    • 5





      For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

      – Valorum
      Jul 15 at 16:13







    • 1





      @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

      – Acccumulation
      Jul 15 at 17:13






    • 1





      I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

      – Draco18s
      Jul 16 at 14:52

















    • youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

      – Kai
      Jul 15 at 16:13






    • 5





      For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

      – Valorum
      Jul 15 at 16:13







    • 1





      @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

      – Acccumulation
      Jul 15 at 17:13






    • 1





      I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

      – Draco18s
      Jul 16 at 14:52
















    youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

    – Kai
    Jul 15 at 16:13





    youtu.be/FyU26WN9kuY A do it yourself version of the trick that explains how it's done, at 4:10. Not sure if the manufactured ones work the same way.

    – Kai
    Jul 15 at 16:13




    5




    5





    For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

    – Valorum
    Jul 15 at 16:13






    For the reference, "sleight" of hand is how you perform illusions. "Slight" of hand just means you've got really small hands.

    – Valorum
    Jul 15 at 16:13





    1




    1





    @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

    – Acccumulation
    Jul 15 at 17:13





    @Valorum Or someone is disparaging your hands.

    – Acccumulation
    Jul 15 at 17:13




    1




    1





    I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

    – Draco18s
    Jul 16 at 14:52





    I prefer "legerdemain" or "prestidigitation," personally. "Skulduggery" is a bit underhanded, though.

    – Draco18s
    Jul 16 at 14:52













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    The film's official novelisation confirms that Willow performed a variety of "tricks" (i.e. not magic) before the piglet illusion.




    But Willow had his own cheering-section, and they were so enthusiastic
    that they even drew some curious spectators away from the tug-of-war.
    Willow’s boyhood friend, Meegosh. stood solidly in his leather miner’s
    apron, one arm around Ranon and the other around Mims. All three
    wildly applauded every trick,
    even the old
    pull-the-feathers-out-of-nowhere maneuver, which Willow actually did
    quite well. Meegosh slapped his apron and yelled, “Bravo! Bravo!” so
    lustily that he attracted the attention of Burglekutt. The Prefect
    watched disdainfully from across the fairgrounds, pudgy hands spread
    on his stomach.



    Willow: Official Novelisation




    As to how it was performed, it's typically done by having the arm simply be out of the way of the candle. The holes (in this case knotholes) are placed in such a way that they look like they're opposite, but in reality they're slightly offset, leaving enough space for the arm. You can see the illusion performed here








    and here



    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer





























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      The film's official novelisation confirms that Willow performed a variety of "tricks" (i.e. not magic) before the piglet illusion.




      But Willow had his own cheering-section, and they were so enthusiastic
      that they even drew some curious spectators away from the tug-of-war.
      Willow’s boyhood friend, Meegosh. stood solidly in his leather miner’s
      apron, one arm around Ranon and the other around Mims. All three
      wildly applauded every trick,
      even the old
      pull-the-feathers-out-of-nowhere maneuver, which Willow actually did
      quite well. Meegosh slapped his apron and yelled, “Bravo! Bravo!” so
      lustily that he attracted the attention of Burglekutt. The Prefect
      watched disdainfully from across the fairgrounds, pudgy hands spread
      on his stomach.



      Willow: Official Novelisation




      As to how it was performed, it's typically done by having the arm simply be out of the way of the candle. The holes (in this case knotholes) are placed in such a way that they look like they're opposite, but in reality they're slightly offset, leaving enough space for the arm. You can see the illusion performed here








      and here



      enter image description here






      share|improve this answer



























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        The film's official novelisation confirms that Willow performed a variety of "tricks" (i.e. not magic) before the piglet illusion.




        But Willow had his own cheering-section, and they were so enthusiastic
        that they even drew some curious spectators away from the tug-of-war.
        Willow’s boyhood friend, Meegosh. stood solidly in his leather miner’s
        apron, one arm around Ranon and the other around Mims. All three
        wildly applauded every trick,
        even the old
        pull-the-feathers-out-of-nowhere maneuver, which Willow actually did
        quite well. Meegosh slapped his apron and yelled, “Bravo! Bravo!” so
        lustily that he attracted the attention of Burglekutt. The Prefect
        watched disdainfully from across the fairgrounds, pudgy hands spread
        on his stomach.



        Willow: Official Novelisation




        As to how it was performed, it's typically done by having the arm simply be out of the way of the candle. The holes (in this case knotholes) are placed in such a way that they look like they're opposite, but in reality they're slightly offset, leaving enough space for the arm. You can see the illusion performed here








        and here



        enter image description here






        share|improve this answer















        The film's official novelisation confirms that Willow performed a variety of "tricks" (i.e. not magic) before the piglet illusion.




        But Willow had his own cheering-section, and they were so enthusiastic
        that they even drew some curious spectators away from the tug-of-war.
        Willow’s boyhood friend, Meegosh. stood solidly in his leather miner’s
        apron, one arm around Ranon and the other around Mims. All three
        wildly applauded every trick,
        even the old
        pull-the-feathers-out-of-nowhere maneuver, which Willow actually did
        quite well. Meegosh slapped his apron and yelled, “Bravo! Bravo!” so
        lustily that he attracted the attention of Burglekutt. The Prefect
        watched disdainfully from across the fairgrounds, pudgy hands spread
        on his stomach.



        Willow: Official Novelisation




        As to how it was performed, it's typically done by having the arm simply be out of the way of the candle. The holes (in this case knotholes) are placed in such a way that they look like they're opposite, but in reality they're slightly offset, leaving enough space for the arm. You can see the illusion performed here








        and here



        enter image description here















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