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What's the point of DHS warning passengers about Manila airport?
What is the earliest before a scheduled departure that you can get through a TSA checkpoint in a US airport?What's the difference between 'Redress Number' and 'Known Traveler Number'? Do I need both for TSA PreCheck?Why do I need to buy a ticket to get into the secure half of a US airport?What's the limit of liquids allowed in your purse while flying with United Airlines?“Do not board” message at the airport check-in?Is there a fee-free ATM at Manila Airport (MNL) and what is the maximum withdrawal amount per transaction?Postcards, stamps and mailbox at Manila airport?Airport transfer in Manila between Terminals 1 and 3What does TSA mean by “pivot point” when talking about shears/scissors in carry-on luggage?Why didn't my snowboard bag make it on the flight at O'Hare despite me arriving over 2 hours early to the airport?
I've seen the following warning printed next to all TSA checkpoints in a US airport:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) today announced the determination that aviation security at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (MNL), which serves as a last-point-of-departure airport for flights to the United States, does not maintain and carry out effective security consistent with the security standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).
What is the point of this warning? Are they warning passengers that direct flights to Manila will be cancelled soon? Or is it just a generic warning designed to force Manila airport to improve their security?
tsa mnl
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I've seen the following warning printed next to all TSA checkpoints in a US airport:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) today announced the determination that aviation security at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (MNL), which serves as a last-point-of-departure airport for flights to the United States, does not maintain and carry out effective security consistent with the security standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).
What is the point of this warning? Are they warning passengers that direct flights to Manila will be cancelled soon? Or is it just a generic warning designed to force Manila airport to improve their security?
tsa mnl
asked Jun 23 at 1:52
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It means you don't have to go through the security theater :)
– Navin
Jun 23 at 17:31
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@Navin No, it means that the OP will have to go though a sub-standard security theater with outdated decorations and clumsy clowns.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jun 24 at 12:09
1
@DmitryGrigoryev And that they're likely they'll have a thorough set of checks US-side of such flights.
– Mast
Jun 24 at 15:33
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I've seen the following warning printed next to all TSA checkpoints in a US airport:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) today announced the determination that aviation security at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (MNL), which serves as a last-point-of-departure airport for flights to the United States, does not maintain and carry out effective security consistent with the security standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).
What is the point of this warning? Are they warning passengers that direct flights to Manila will be cancelled soon? Or is it just a generic warning designed to force Manila airport to improve their security?
tsa mnl
asked Jun 23 at 1:52
JonathanReez♦JonathanReez
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I've seen the following warning printed next to all TSA checkpoints in a US airport:
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) today announced the determination that aviation security at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (MNL), which serves as a last-point-of-departure airport for flights to the United States, does not maintain and carry out effective security consistent with the security standards established by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).
What is the point of this warning? Are they warning passengers that direct flights to Manila will be cancelled soon? Or is it just a generic warning designed to force Manila airport to improve their security?
tsa mnl
tsa mnl
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It means you don't have to go through the security theater :)
– Navin
Jun 23 at 17:31
2
@Navin No, it means that the OP will have to go though a sub-standard security theater with outdated decorations and clumsy clowns.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jun 24 at 12:09
1
@DmitryGrigoryev And that they're likely they'll have a thorough set of checks US-side of such flights.
– Mast
Jun 24 at 15:33
add a comment |
4
It means you don't have to go through the security theater :)
– Navin
Jun 23 at 17:31
2
@Navin No, it means that the OP will have to go though a sub-standard security theater with outdated decorations and clumsy clowns.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jun 24 at 12:09
1
@DmitryGrigoryev And that they're likely they'll have a thorough set of checks US-side of such flights.
– Mast
Jun 24 at 15:33
4
4
It means you don't have to go through the security theater :)
– Navin
Jun 23 at 17:31
It means you don't have to go through the security theater :)
– Navin
Jun 23 at 17:31
2
2
@Navin No, it means that the OP will have to go though a sub-standard security theater with outdated decorations and clumsy clowns.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jun 24 at 12:09
@Navin No, it means that the OP will have to go though a sub-standard security theater with outdated decorations and clumsy clowns.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jun 24 at 12:09
1
1
@DmitryGrigoryev And that they're likely they'll have a thorough set of checks US-side of such flights.
– Mast
Jun 24 at 15:33
@DmitryGrigoryev And that they're likely they'll have a thorough set of checks US-side of such flights.
– Mast
Jun 24 at 15:33
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The signs are there because the law requires them to be. Federal law requires that the US government periodically assess the aviation security practices of foreign airports. If they are found to be deficient, the law requires that notices be posted:
(d)Actions When Not Maintaining and Carrying Out Effective Security
Measures.— (1) When the Secretary of Transportation decides under this
section that an airport does not maintain and carry out effective
security measures— (A) the Secretary of Transportation shall— (i)
publish the identity of the airport in the Federal Register; (ii) have
the identity of the airport posted and displayed prominently at all
United States airports at which scheduled air carrier operations are
provided regularly; and (iii) notify the news media of the identity of
the airport;
Airlines are also required to provide similar notice to people who book tickets to the airport.
Back in December, they announced that MNL airport had failed the assessment (there's been some history of problems there) and that advisories would be published. Hence the signs: the law says notices need to be posted, so here they are.
The law does permit a suspension of flights under such circumstances, but that's a discretionary act, not something that would be required, and I'm not aware of any public statements indicating that anybody is proposing such a measure. The authorities in the Philippines are trying to take steps to rectify the problems, with some financial support from the US government. So yes, it is meant as a warning to force them to improve their security practices and a warning to passengers that they could reconsider their travel, though there's at least the theoretical potential the US government could suspend flights if the airport doesn't improve.
These situations can often be addressed if the airline hires additional security (and expensive security consultants, naturally) to screen only US-bound flights. In some rare cases, airlines will build in a stopover where passengers can be rescreened before flying to the US. Until recently, this was done by Kuwait Airlines, where flights to the US made a stop in Shannon until the US authorities were satisfied with Kuwait's airport security improvements. So there may also be other options beyond a suspension of flights in some cases.
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Although it's certainly correct to say "the signs are there because the law requires them to be", and other answers point to the possible effects if the situation continues, the underlying point of the warning is to let people know that the US Government considers security at Manila Airport to be inadequate.
Inadequate security means they believe there is a higher chance of flights out of Manila being attacked, hijacked or blown up than other flights.
answered Jun 23 at 3:19
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"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
1
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
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The signs are there because the law requires them to be. Federal law requires that the US government periodically assess the aviation security practices of foreign airports. If they are found to be deficient, the law requires that notices be posted:
(d)Actions When Not Maintaining and Carrying Out Effective Security
Measures.— (1) When the Secretary of Transportation decides under this
section that an airport does not maintain and carry out effective
security measures— (A) the Secretary of Transportation shall— (i)
publish the identity of the airport in the Federal Register; (ii) have
the identity of the airport posted and displayed prominently at all
United States airports at which scheduled air carrier operations are
provided regularly; and (iii) notify the news media of the identity of
the airport;
Airlines are also required to provide similar notice to people who book tickets to the airport.
Back in December, they announced that MNL airport had failed the assessment (there's been some history of problems there) and that advisories would be published. Hence the signs: the law says notices need to be posted, so here they are.
The law does permit a suspension of flights under such circumstances, but that's a discretionary act, not something that would be required, and I'm not aware of any public statements indicating that anybody is proposing such a measure. The authorities in the Philippines are trying to take steps to rectify the problems, with some financial support from the US government. So yes, it is meant as a warning to force them to improve their security practices and a warning to passengers that they could reconsider their travel, though there's at least the theoretical potential the US government could suspend flights if the airport doesn't improve.
These situations can often be addressed if the airline hires additional security (and expensive security consultants, naturally) to screen only US-bound flights. In some rare cases, airlines will build in a stopover where passengers can be rescreened before flying to the US. Until recently, this was done by Kuwait Airlines, where flights to the US made a stop in Shannon until the US authorities were satisfied with Kuwait's airport security improvements. So there may also be other options beyond a suspension of flights in some cases.
answered Jun 23 at 2:56
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The signs are there because the law requires them to be. Federal law requires that the US government periodically assess the aviation security practices of foreign airports. If they are found to be deficient, the law requires that notices be posted:
(d)Actions When Not Maintaining and Carrying Out Effective Security
Measures.— (1) When the Secretary of Transportation decides under this
section that an airport does not maintain and carry out effective
security measures— (A) the Secretary of Transportation shall— (i)
publish the identity of the airport in the Federal Register; (ii) have
the identity of the airport posted and displayed prominently at all
United States airports at which scheduled air carrier operations are
provided regularly; and (iii) notify the news media of the identity of
the airport;
Airlines are also required to provide similar notice to people who book tickets to the airport.
Back in December, they announced that MNL airport had failed the assessment (there's been some history of problems there) and that advisories would be published. Hence the signs: the law says notices need to be posted, so here they are.
The law does permit a suspension of flights under such circumstances, but that's a discretionary act, not something that would be required, and I'm not aware of any public statements indicating that anybody is proposing such a measure. The authorities in the Philippines are trying to take steps to rectify the problems, with some financial support from the US government. So yes, it is meant as a warning to force them to improve their security practices and a warning to passengers that they could reconsider their travel, though there's at least the theoretical potential the US government could suspend flights if the airport doesn't improve.
These situations can often be addressed if the airline hires additional security (and expensive security consultants, naturally) to screen only US-bound flights. In some rare cases, airlines will build in a stopover where passengers can be rescreened before flying to the US. Until recently, this was done by Kuwait Airlines, where flights to the US made a stop in Shannon until the US authorities were satisfied with Kuwait's airport security improvements. So there may also be other options beyond a suspension of flights in some cases.
answered Jun 23 at 2:56
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
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The signs are there because the law requires them to be. Federal law requires that the US government periodically assess the aviation security practices of foreign airports. If they are found to be deficient, the law requires that notices be posted:
(d)Actions When Not Maintaining and Carrying Out Effective Security
Measures.— (1) When the Secretary of Transportation decides under this
section that an airport does not maintain and carry out effective
security measures— (A) the Secretary of Transportation shall— (i)
publish the identity of the airport in the Federal Register; (ii) have
the identity of the airport posted and displayed prominently at all
United States airports at which scheduled air carrier operations are
provided regularly; and (iii) notify the news media of the identity of
the airport;
Airlines are also required to provide similar notice to people who book tickets to the airport.
Back in December, they announced that MNL airport had failed the assessment (there's been some history of problems there) and that advisories would be published. Hence the signs: the law says notices need to be posted, so here they are.
The law does permit a suspension of flights under such circumstances, but that's a discretionary act, not something that would be required, and I'm not aware of any public statements indicating that anybody is proposing such a measure. The authorities in the Philippines are trying to take steps to rectify the problems, with some financial support from the US government. So yes, it is meant as a warning to force them to improve their security practices and a warning to passengers that they could reconsider their travel, though there's at least the theoretical potential the US government could suspend flights if the airport doesn't improve.
These situations can often be addressed if the airline hires additional security (and expensive security consultants, naturally) to screen only US-bound flights. In some rare cases, airlines will build in a stopover where passengers can be rescreened before flying to the US. Until recently, this was done by Kuwait Airlines, where flights to the US made a stop in Shannon until the US authorities were satisfied with Kuwait's airport security improvements. So there may also be other options beyond a suspension of flights in some cases.
answered Jun 23 at 2:56
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
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The signs are there because the law requires them to be. Federal law requires that the US government periodically assess the aviation security practices of foreign airports. If they are found to be deficient, the law requires that notices be posted:
(d)Actions When Not Maintaining and Carrying Out Effective Security
Measures.— (1) When the Secretary of Transportation decides under this
section that an airport does not maintain and carry out effective
security measures— (A) the Secretary of Transportation shall— (i)
publish the identity of the airport in the Federal Register; (ii) have
the identity of the airport posted and displayed prominently at all
United States airports at which scheduled air carrier operations are
provided regularly; and (iii) notify the news media of the identity of
the airport;
Airlines are also required to provide similar notice to people who book tickets to the airport.
Back in December, they announced that MNL airport had failed the assessment (there's been some history of problems there) and that advisories would be published. Hence the signs: the law says notices need to be posted, so here they are.
The law does permit a suspension of flights under such circumstances, but that's a discretionary act, not something that would be required, and I'm not aware of any public statements indicating that anybody is proposing such a measure. The authorities in the Philippines are trying to take steps to rectify the problems, with some financial support from the US government. So yes, it is meant as a warning to force them to improve their security practices and a warning to passengers that they could reconsider their travel, though there's at least the theoretical potential the US government could suspend flights if the airport doesn't improve.
These situations can often be addressed if the airline hires additional security (and expensive security consultants, naturally) to screen only US-bound flights. In some rare cases, airlines will build in a stopover where passengers can be rescreened before flying to the US. Until recently, this was done by Kuwait Airlines, where flights to the US made a stop in Shannon until the US authorities were satisfied with Kuwait's airport security improvements. So there may also be other options beyond a suspension of flights in some cases.
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Although it's certainly correct to say "the signs are there because the law requires them to be", and other answers point to the possible effects if the situation continues, the underlying point of the warning is to let people know that the US Government considers security at Manila Airport to be inadequate.
Inadequate security means they believe there is a higher chance of flights out of Manila being attacked, hijacked or blown up than other flights.
answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
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"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
1
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
add a comment |
Although it's certainly correct to say "the signs are there because the law requires them to be", and other answers point to the possible effects if the situation continues, the underlying point of the warning is to let people know that the US Government considers security at Manila Airport to be inadequate.
Inadequate security means they believe there is a higher chance of flights out of Manila being attacked, hijacked or blown up than other flights.
answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
38.6k7 gold badges107 silver badges139 bronze badges
4
"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
1
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
add a comment |
Although it's certainly correct to say "the signs are there because the law requires them to be", and other answers point to the possible effects if the situation continues, the underlying point of the warning is to let people know that the US Government considers security at Manila Airport to be inadequate.
Inadequate security means they believe there is a higher chance of flights out of Manila being attacked, hijacked or blown up than other flights.
answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
38.6k7 gold badges107 silver badges139 bronze badges
Although it's certainly correct to say "the signs are there because the law requires them to be", and other answers point to the possible effects if the situation continues, the underlying point of the warning is to let people know that the US Government considers security at Manila Airport to be inadequate.
Inadequate security means they believe there is a higher chance of flights out of Manila being attacked, hijacked or blown up than other flights.
answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
38.6k7 gold badges107 silver badges139 bronze badges
answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
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answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
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answered Jun 23 at 3:19
DJClayworthDJClayworth
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"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
1
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
add a comment |
4
"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
1
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
4
4
"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
"The US Government considers security to be inadequate" and "Security is inadequate" are two different things. Do you have any statistics of attacks, hijacks, etc on flights out of Manila? Of course there have been attacks on the airport itself (any high profile public space is a possible target), but that is not the same thing as attacks on actual flights. Apart from a generic "such as.." reference in the introductory paragraph, this UK Government foreign travel advisory contains nothing: gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines/terrorism
– alephzero
Jun 23 at 22:15
1
1
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
Nobody asked "Is security to inadequate". The sign just means that DHS believes so.
– DJClayworth
Jun 24 at 0:33
add a comment |
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It means you don't have to go through the security theater :)
– Navin
Jun 23 at 17:31
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@Navin No, it means that the OP will have to go though a sub-standard security theater with outdated decorations and clumsy clowns.
– Dmitry Grigoryev
Jun 24 at 12:09
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@DmitryGrigoryev And that they're likely they'll have a thorough set of checks US-side of such flights.
– Mast
Jun 24 at 15:33