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What happened to Viserion in Season 7?
What are the origins of the White Walkers?Can fire kill (or harm) a dragon?What happens to the babies that the white walkers collect?How did Ser Davos know about this name/title?Why can't the Others go around the Wall at sea?Why do White Walkers wear clothes? Or why were they once (nearly) naked?Why don't the white walkers have archers in their armies?From how far away can White Walkers resurrect?Why didn't Jon Snow bring any archers with him beyond the wall?How did the dead recover Viserion?
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In the end of season 7, Daenerys's dragon, Viserion,
died and the Night King raised it. Did he raise the dragon as a White Walker or just an ordinary soldier in the Army of the Dead?
Does it make any difference in that case?
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In the end of season 7, Daenerys's dragon, Viserion,
died and the Night King raised it. Did he raise the dragon as a White Walker or just an ordinary soldier in the Army of the Dead?
Does it make any difference in that case?
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I also answered this over on movies.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:38
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I've tried to make the title less of a spoiler but it's a bit unclear now, if anyone has a better idea for one, please edit it.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:39
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In the end of season 7, Daenerys's dragon, Viserion,
died and the Night King raised it. Did he raise the dragon as a White Walker or just an ordinary soldier in the Army of the Dead?
Does it make any difference in that case?
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In the end of season 7, Daenerys's dragon, Viserion,
died and the Night King raised it. Did he raise the dragon as a White Walker or just an ordinary soldier in the Army of the Dead?
Does it make any difference in that case?
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I also answered this over on movies.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:38
2
I've tried to make the title less of a spoiler but it's a bit unclear now, if anyone has a better idea for one, please edit it.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:39
add a comment |
1
I also answered this over on movies.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:38
2
I've tried to make the title less of a spoiler but it's a bit unclear now, if anyone has a better idea for one, please edit it.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:39
1
1
I also answered this over on movies.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:38
I also answered this over on movies.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:38
2
2
I've tried to make the title less of a spoiler but it's a bit unclear now, if anyone has a better idea for one, please edit it.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:39
I've tried to make the title less of a spoiler but it's a bit unclear now, if anyone has a better idea for one, please edit it.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:39
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With the release of the official script for Episode 7 we see that he is indeed a White Walker Flyer.
A massive chunk of the Wall breaks free ahead of Tormund. The ice dragon glides away, and we get our first clear look at him, and at the Night King on his back. He's done the same thing to Viserion that he did to Craster's sons. Only those were babies, and this is a dragon.
Game of Thrones, Season 7 Episode 7, "The Dragon and the Wolf" - Official script
A White Walker is created by the Night King placing his hand on the subject, like with Craster's baby boys:
Craster's newborn baby being transformed into a White Walker by having the Night King touch him, "Oathkeeper" (Game of Thrones, S04E04)
Then compare the eyes of the White Walker Crawler to the wight's eyes below.
A wight which I believe is from Hardhome, "Hardhome" (Game of Thrones, S05E08)
As you can see a wights eyes are a lot cloudier than the sharp blue of a White Walkers.
Now compare those of Viserion's:
Viserion opens his eyes after the Nights King touches him, "Beyond the Wall" (Game of Thrones, S07E06)
As you can see his eyes more closely resemble a White Walker than a wight.
11
This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
15
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
1
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
8
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
2
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
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With the release of the official script for Episode 7 we see that he is indeed a White Walker Flyer.
A massive chunk of the Wall breaks free ahead of Tormund. The ice dragon glides away, and we get our first clear look at him, and at the Night King on his back. He's done the same thing to Viserion that he did to Craster's sons. Only those were babies, and this is a dragon.
Game of Thrones, Season 7 Episode 7, "The Dragon and the Wolf" - Official script
A White Walker is created by the Night King placing his hand on the subject, like with Craster's baby boys:
Craster's newborn baby being transformed into a White Walker by having the Night King touch him, "Oathkeeper" (Game of Thrones, S04E04)
Then compare the eyes of the White Walker Crawler to the wight's eyes below.
A wight which I believe is from Hardhome, "Hardhome" (Game of Thrones, S05E08)
As you can see a wights eyes are a lot cloudier than the sharp blue of a White Walkers.
Now compare those of Viserion's:
Viserion opens his eyes after the Nights King touches him, "Beyond the Wall" (Game of Thrones, S07E06)
As you can see his eyes more closely resemble a White Walker than a wight.
11
This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
15
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
1
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
8
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
2
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
|
show 3 more comments
With the release of the official script for Episode 7 we see that he is indeed a White Walker Flyer.
A massive chunk of the Wall breaks free ahead of Tormund. The ice dragon glides away, and we get our first clear look at him, and at the Night King on his back. He's done the same thing to Viserion that he did to Craster's sons. Only those were babies, and this is a dragon.
Game of Thrones, Season 7 Episode 7, "The Dragon and the Wolf" - Official script
A White Walker is created by the Night King placing his hand on the subject, like with Craster's baby boys:
Craster's newborn baby being transformed into a White Walker by having the Night King touch him, "Oathkeeper" (Game of Thrones, S04E04)
Then compare the eyes of the White Walker Crawler to the wight's eyes below.
A wight which I believe is from Hardhome, "Hardhome" (Game of Thrones, S05E08)
As you can see a wights eyes are a lot cloudier than the sharp blue of a White Walkers.
Now compare those of Viserion's:
Viserion opens his eyes after the Nights King touches him, "Beyond the Wall" (Game of Thrones, S07E06)
As you can see his eyes more closely resemble a White Walker than a wight.
11
This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
15
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
1
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
8
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
2
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
|
show 3 more comments
With the release of the official script for Episode 7 we see that he is indeed a White Walker Flyer.
A massive chunk of the Wall breaks free ahead of Tormund. The ice dragon glides away, and we get our first clear look at him, and at the Night King on his back. He's done the same thing to Viserion that he did to Craster's sons. Only those were babies, and this is a dragon.
Game of Thrones, Season 7 Episode 7, "The Dragon and the Wolf" - Official script
A White Walker is created by the Night King placing his hand on the subject, like with Craster's baby boys:
Craster's newborn baby being transformed into a White Walker by having the Night King touch him, "Oathkeeper" (Game of Thrones, S04E04)
Then compare the eyes of the White Walker Crawler to the wight's eyes below.
A wight which I believe is from Hardhome, "Hardhome" (Game of Thrones, S05E08)
As you can see a wights eyes are a lot cloudier than the sharp blue of a White Walkers.
Now compare those of Viserion's:
Viserion opens his eyes after the Nights King touches him, "Beyond the Wall" (Game of Thrones, S07E06)
As you can see his eyes more closely resemble a White Walker than a wight.
With the release of the official script for Episode 7 we see that he is indeed a White Walker Flyer.
A massive chunk of the Wall breaks free ahead of Tormund. The ice dragon glides away, and we get our first clear look at him, and at the Night King on his back. He's done the same thing to Viserion that he did to Craster's sons. Only those were babies, and this is a dragon.
Game of Thrones, Season 7 Episode 7, "The Dragon and the Wolf" - Official script
A White Walker is created by the Night King placing his hand on the subject, like with Craster's baby boys:
Craster's newborn baby being transformed into a White Walker by having the Night King touch him, "Oathkeeper" (Game of Thrones, S04E04)
Then compare the eyes of the White Walker Crawler to the wight's eyes below.
A wight which I believe is from Hardhome, "Hardhome" (Game of Thrones, S05E08)
As you can see a wights eyes are a lot cloudier than the sharp blue of a White Walkers.
Now compare those of Viserion's:
Viserion opens his eyes after the Nights King touches him, "Beyond the Wall" (Game of Thrones, S07E06)
As you can see his eyes more closely resemble a White Walker than a wight.
edited 2 days ago
answered Apr 23 at 12:37
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This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
15
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
1
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
8
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
2
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
|
show 3 more comments
11
This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
15
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
1
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
8
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
2
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
11
11
This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
This is new information to me. Thought he was just a Wight. Being a white flyer he has consciousness & can take action on his own
– KharoBangdo
Apr 23 at 15:49
15
15
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
Ugh, this makes no sense. I mean, I don't doubt this is the right answer, I'm just griping that the writers' choice to do this doesn't fit with the lore. Corpses don't become white walkers, living babies do. Unless they're claiming Viserion somehow survived the ice lance, the crash into the frozen water, and hours or days of submersion...
– Paul
Apr 23 at 21:52
1
1
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
@Paul your trying to claim total knowledge from the tidbits of knowledge we get about the White Walkers. Just because we’ve only seen living babies become White Walkers doesn’t mean dead things can’t. Also worth noting that dragons are magical creatures and so are a different case to humans.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 22:18
8
8
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
I’m not trying to claim perfect knowledge @TheLethalCarrot, I’m complaining that this breaks verisimilitude for me. Yes, anything can be explained by magic, but good stories stay internally consistent and I don’t believe this is.
– Paul
Apr 23 at 22:54
2
2
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
Benioff has said that "themes are for eighth-grade book reports". I wonder if they think consistency is too.
– curiousdannii
Apr 23 at 23:38
|
show 3 more comments
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I also answered this over on movies.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:38
2
I've tried to make the title less of a spoiler but it's a bit unclear now, if anyone has a better idea for one, please edit it.
– TheLethalCarrot
Apr 23 at 12:39