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How to prove the emptiness of intersection of two context free languages is undecidable?


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Where can I find a proof that the emptiness problem for the intersection of two context free languages is undecidable? I searched on the internet but could not find anything helpful.



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      Where can I find a proof that the emptiness problem for the intersection of two context free languages is undecidable? I searched on the internet but could not find anything helpful.



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          A popular reference is the article Undecidable Problems for Context-free Grammars by Hendrik Jan Hoogeboom.



          The following is a proof taken from this note by Rob van Glabbeek.




          Theorem: It is undecidable whether or not the languages generated by two given context-free grammars have an empty intersection.



          Proof: By a reduction of post correspondence problem (which is known to be undecidable) to the empty intersection problem.
          Given a set $d_1,cdots,d_n$ of dominos where, for $i=1,cdots,n$, the top string of $d_i$ is $w_i$ and the bottom string of $d_i = x_i$. Consider the context-free grammars



          $$Wto w_1Wd_1mid w_2Wd_2midcdotsmid w_nWd_nmid w_1d_1mid w_2d_2midcdotsmid w_nd_n$$
          and
          $$Xto x_1Xd_1mid x_2Xd_2midcdotsmid x_nXd_nmid x_1d_1mid x_2d_2midcdotsmid x_nd_n.$$



          Now notice that the given instance of PCS has a match exactly when the intersection of the languages generated by the resulting grammars above is nonempty.






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            Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
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            Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
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          A popular reference is the article Undecidable Problems for Context-free Grammars by Hendrik Jan Hoogeboom.



          The following is a proof taken from this note by Rob van Glabbeek.




          Theorem: It is undecidable whether or not the languages generated by two given context-free grammars have an empty intersection.



          Proof: By a reduction of post correspondence problem (which is known to be undecidable) to the empty intersection problem.
          Given a set $d_1,cdots,d_n$ of dominos where, for $i=1,cdots,n$, the top string of $d_i$ is $w_i$ and the bottom string of $d_i = x_i$. Consider the context-free grammars



          $$Wto w_1Wd_1mid w_2Wd_2midcdotsmid w_nWd_nmid w_1d_1mid w_2d_2midcdotsmid w_nd_n$$
          and
          $$Xto x_1Xd_1mid x_2Xd_2midcdotsmid x_nXd_nmid x_1d_1mid x_2d_2midcdotsmid x_nd_n.$$



          Now notice that the given instance of PCS has a match exactly when the intersection of the languages generated by the resulting grammars above is nonempty.






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            Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
            $endgroup$
            – Cilenco
            yesterday











          • $begingroup$
            Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
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          $begingroup$

          A popular reference is the article Undecidable Problems for Context-free Grammars by Hendrik Jan Hoogeboom.



          The following is a proof taken from this note by Rob van Glabbeek.




          Theorem: It is undecidable whether or not the languages generated by two given context-free grammars have an empty intersection.



          Proof: By a reduction of post correspondence problem (which is known to be undecidable) to the empty intersection problem.
          Given a set $d_1,cdots,d_n$ of dominos where, for $i=1,cdots,n$, the top string of $d_i$ is $w_i$ and the bottom string of $d_i = x_i$. Consider the context-free grammars



          $$Wto w_1Wd_1mid w_2Wd_2midcdotsmid w_nWd_nmid w_1d_1mid w_2d_2midcdotsmid w_nd_n$$
          and
          $$Xto x_1Xd_1mid x_2Xd_2midcdotsmid x_nXd_nmid x_1d_1mid x_2d_2midcdotsmid x_nd_n.$$



          Now notice that the given instance of PCS has a match exactly when the intersection of the languages generated by the resulting grammars above is nonempty.






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            Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
            $endgroup$
            – Cilenco
            yesterday











          • $begingroup$
            Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
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            yesterday













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          A popular reference is the article Undecidable Problems for Context-free Grammars by Hendrik Jan Hoogeboom.



          The following is a proof taken from this note by Rob van Glabbeek.




          Theorem: It is undecidable whether or not the languages generated by two given context-free grammars have an empty intersection.



          Proof: By a reduction of post correspondence problem (which is known to be undecidable) to the empty intersection problem.
          Given a set $d_1,cdots,d_n$ of dominos where, for $i=1,cdots,n$, the top string of $d_i$ is $w_i$ and the bottom string of $d_i = x_i$. Consider the context-free grammars



          $$Wto w_1Wd_1mid w_2Wd_2midcdotsmid w_nWd_nmid w_1d_1mid w_2d_2midcdotsmid w_nd_n$$
          and
          $$Xto x_1Xd_1mid x_2Xd_2midcdotsmid x_nXd_nmid x_1d_1mid x_2d_2midcdotsmid x_nd_n.$$



          Now notice that the given instance of PCS has a match exactly when the intersection of the languages generated by the resulting grammars above is nonempty.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          A popular reference is the article Undecidable Problems for Context-free Grammars by Hendrik Jan Hoogeboom.



          The following is a proof taken from this note by Rob van Glabbeek.




          Theorem: It is undecidable whether or not the languages generated by two given context-free grammars have an empty intersection.



          Proof: By a reduction of post correspondence problem (which is known to be undecidable) to the empty intersection problem.
          Given a set $d_1,cdots,d_n$ of dominos where, for $i=1,cdots,n$, the top string of $d_i$ is $w_i$ and the bottom string of $d_i = x_i$. Consider the context-free grammars



          $$Wto w_1Wd_1mid w_2Wd_2midcdotsmid w_nWd_nmid w_1d_1mid w_2d_2midcdotsmid w_nd_n$$
          and
          $$Xto x_1Xd_1mid x_2Xd_2midcdotsmid x_nXd_nmid x_1d_1mid x_2d_2midcdotsmid x_nd_n.$$



          Now notice that the given instance of PCS has a match exactly when the intersection of the languages generated by the resulting grammars above is nonempty.







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          • $begingroup$
            Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
            $endgroup$
            – Cilenco
            yesterday











          • $begingroup$
            Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
            $endgroup$
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            yesterday
















          • $begingroup$
            Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
            $endgroup$
            – Cilenco
            yesterday











          • $begingroup$
            Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
            $endgroup$
            – Apass.Jack
            yesterday















          $begingroup$
          Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
          $endgroup$
          – Cilenco
          yesterday





          $begingroup$
          Using this would give me the word as well as the indices of the dominos in reverse order right?
          $endgroup$
          – Cilenco
          yesterday













          $begingroup$
          Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
          $endgroup$
          – Apass.Jack
          yesterday




          $begingroup$
          Let $s$ be generated by $W$, i.e., $s=w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. If it is also generated by $X$, then $s=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_kd_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$. Cancelling $d_i_kcdots d_i_2d_i_1$, we get $w_i_1w_i_2cdots w_i_k=x_i_1x_i_2cdots x_i_k$. Treating $d_i$ as the domino $dfracw_ix_i$, we get $d_i_1d_i_2cdots d_i_k=dfracw_i_1x_i_1dfracw_i_2x_i_2cdotsdfracw_i_nx_i_n$, where the top and bottom are the same string.
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