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How to best clean this sealed mechanical rotary encoder / volume knob?
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How can I best clean, replace or lubricate this fairly well sealed digital rotary mechanical encoder?
The equipment operates, but the encoder is super finicky, often encoding in the wrong direction when spun. With patience it's possible to get it to the right value, but quite tedious.
The equipment is about 15 years old, and the encoder has been unreliable for the last year or so.
Question 1: if it can be replaced, how would I find a pin for pin match?
Question 2: if it can't be replaced, what's the best way to clean or re-lubricate it? It has a crack, I can probably flood some chemical junk into it.
Update: I opened the cleats:
encoder repair cleaning
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How can I best clean, replace or lubricate this fairly well sealed digital rotary mechanical encoder?
The equipment operates, but the encoder is super finicky, often encoding in the wrong direction when spun. With patience it's possible to get it to the right value, but quite tedious.
The equipment is about 15 years old, and the encoder has been unreliable for the last year or so.
Question 1: if it can be replaced, how would I find a pin for pin match?
Question 2: if it can't be replaced, what's the best way to clean or re-lubricate it? It has a crack, I can probably flood some chemical junk into it.
Update: I opened the cleats:
encoder repair cleaning
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Just out of curiosity, is this a Yamaha digital audio mixer?
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– Tyler Stone
Jun 16 at 20:43
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It looks like it's soldered in place - do you know how to use a soldering iron?
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– nick012000
Jun 17 at 6:39
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Yes, I can solder. This only has 5 contacts (including the ground lug). The existing solder contacts look solid, but I should first try to freshen them up, in case there are micro-cracks in the solder from use.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:05
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You should try cleaning it before replacing it. Better for the environment!
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– hekete
Jun 18 at 6:55
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How can I best clean, replace or lubricate this fairly well sealed digital rotary mechanical encoder?
The equipment operates, but the encoder is super finicky, often encoding in the wrong direction when spun. With patience it's possible to get it to the right value, but quite tedious.
The equipment is about 15 years old, and the encoder has been unreliable for the last year or so.
Question 1: if it can be replaced, how would I find a pin for pin match?
Question 2: if it can't be replaced, what's the best way to clean or re-lubricate it? It has a crack, I can probably flood some chemical junk into it.
Update: I opened the cleats:
encoder repair cleaning
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How can I best clean, replace or lubricate this fairly well sealed digital rotary mechanical encoder?
The equipment operates, but the encoder is super finicky, often encoding in the wrong direction when spun. With patience it's possible to get it to the right value, but quite tedious.
The equipment is about 15 years old, and the encoder has been unreliable for the last year or so.
Question 1: if it can be replaced, how would I find a pin for pin match?
Question 2: if it can't be replaced, what's the best way to clean or re-lubricate it? It has a crack, I can probably flood some chemical junk into it.
Update: I opened the cleats:
encoder repair cleaning
encoder repair cleaning
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Just out of curiosity, is this a Yamaha digital audio mixer?
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– Tyler Stone
Jun 16 at 20:43
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It looks like it's soldered in place - do you know how to use a soldering iron?
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– nick012000
Jun 17 at 6:39
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Yes, I can solder. This only has 5 contacts (including the ground lug). The existing solder contacts look solid, but I should first try to freshen them up, in case there are micro-cracks in the solder from use.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:05
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You should try cleaning it before replacing it. Better for the environment!
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– hekete
Jun 18 at 6:55
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2
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Just out of curiosity, is this a Yamaha digital audio mixer?
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– Tyler Stone
Jun 16 at 20:43
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It looks like it's soldered in place - do you know how to use a soldering iron?
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– nick012000
Jun 17 at 6:39
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Yes, I can solder. This only has 5 contacts (including the ground lug). The existing solder contacts look solid, but I should first try to freshen them up, in case there are micro-cracks in the solder from use.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:05
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You should try cleaning it before replacing it. Better for the environment!
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– hekete
Jun 18 at 6:55
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Just out of curiosity, is this a Yamaha digital audio mixer?
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– Tyler Stone
Jun 16 at 20:43
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Just out of curiosity, is this a Yamaha digital audio mixer?
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– Tyler Stone
Jun 16 at 20:43
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It looks like it's soldered in place - do you know how to use a soldering iron?
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– nick012000
Jun 17 at 6:39
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It looks like it's soldered in place - do you know how to use a soldering iron?
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– nick012000
Jun 17 at 6:39
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Yes, I can solder. This only has 5 contacts (including the ground lug). The existing solder contacts look solid, but I should first try to freshen them up, in case there are micro-cracks in the solder from use.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:05
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Yes, I can solder. This only has 5 contacts (including the ground lug). The existing solder contacts look solid, but I should first try to freshen them up, in case there are micro-cracks in the solder from use.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:05
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You should try cleaning it before replacing it. Better for the environment!
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– hekete
Jun 18 at 6:55
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You should try cleaning it before replacing it. Better for the environment!
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– hekete
Jun 18 at 6:55
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By the limited information you give and the (not too great) photo, it seems it is a mechanical encoder, not an optical one.
You don't give any information about the equipment it is mounted on, but 15 years of continuous operation may be quite a lot for a mechanical encoder. Probably the contacts have worn out and there is no reliable way to fix them using any sort of chemical.
Best course of action is to replace it with a new one. The cheapest crappy encoder you can buy on ebay (~1$) could work better than your worn-out encoder, at least for a while.
Of course that is not a suggestion for a long-term fix. If you care about the equipment, you could probably find a suitable replacement on any major component distributor (digikey for example, or RS components), for a couple of dollars.
Just for example, I just did a quick search on digikey trying to find something vaguely similar: BOURNS PEC11L Series - 11 mm Low Profile Encoder (datasheet).
As you can see from this datasheet excerpt (emphasis mine):
the expected minimum encoder life is 100k full rotations.
Assuming (optimistically) that the average life is twofold (200k rotations) and that the shaft is rotated on average 50 times a day (not uncommon in a control console in a work environment) you get 4000 days average life, i.e. about 11 years. Therefore what I initially said about your encoder being at its end of life, is perfectly reasonable.
All this assuming it is not some specialized high-reliability encoder.
If you want better advice post more information on that encoder (model number, better photos, info about the equipment, etc.).
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The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
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This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
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– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
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It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
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– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
add a comment |
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Figure 1. Open the cleats.
I have successfully cleaned an encoder in an audio amplifier by squeezing the cleats on one side enough enable me to create a crack through which I squirted some switch / contact cleaner. (The cans with the straw attached help direct the spray.) Then the switch should be pressed together and the cleats spread once again.
The technique avoids the risk of parts flying off in various directions, not to mention the trouble of finding a suitable replacement, de-soldering, etc.
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
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– Bryce
Jun 18 at 4:07
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It's surprisingly dirty.
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– Transistor
Jun 18 at 7:39
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The best way to clean it is replace it. That encoder has a de facto-standard design, and replacements are cheap and readily available (I've got a box with dozens of them, from multiple manufacturers). While it is possible to disassemble and clean one, doing that without first desoldering it from the board would be tricky and could easily result in accidental damage to the board. (Basically, you'd use needle-nose pliers to squeeze the two split-and-flared flanges shown in the photo, as well as the ones on the other side, then lift off the top half from the blue housing.)
If you're reasonably adept with a soldering iron and with a desoldering braid and/or solder sucker, you should be able to replace it yourself without too much difficulty, though an iron under 40 watts or so may have trouble desoldering the anchors on the side. Otherwise, any electronic repair shop can do it for you easily.
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
Jun 17 at 15:38
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Added footprint to question.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 21:33
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I simply open it up completely (no desoldering is necessary), then with a small screwdriver scrape up any clean lubricating grease to save for reapplication after cleaning
Then use alcohol and brush to clean away any left over grease on the rotating disk and the small wipers, but be careful, the wipers are very fragile. Then take a pink eraser and clean the disk and tiny wiper pads, this will shine them right up, reclean with alcohol, then re-apply the saved grease.
This step is optional: very slightly bend the wiper contacts to give slightly more mechanical pressure. Reassemble and test. I have fixed countless mechanical encoders this way. Good luck.
P.S. This works on pots too, if the pot or encoder is very worn, you can carefully shift the wiper contacts left or right to contact a new section, this works wonders, almost new again.
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By the limited information you give and the (not too great) photo, it seems it is a mechanical encoder, not an optical one.
You don't give any information about the equipment it is mounted on, but 15 years of continuous operation may be quite a lot for a mechanical encoder. Probably the contacts have worn out and there is no reliable way to fix them using any sort of chemical.
Best course of action is to replace it with a new one. The cheapest crappy encoder you can buy on ebay (~1$) could work better than your worn-out encoder, at least for a while.
Of course that is not a suggestion for a long-term fix. If you care about the equipment, you could probably find a suitable replacement on any major component distributor (digikey for example, or RS components), for a couple of dollars.
Just for example, I just did a quick search on digikey trying to find something vaguely similar: BOURNS PEC11L Series - 11 mm Low Profile Encoder (datasheet).
As you can see from this datasheet excerpt (emphasis mine):
the expected minimum encoder life is 100k full rotations.
Assuming (optimistically) that the average life is twofold (200k rotations) and that the shaft is rotated on average 50 times a day (not uncommon in a control console in a work environment) you get 4000 days average life, i.e. about 11 years. Therefore what I initially said about your encoder being at its end of life, is perfectly reasonable.
All this assuming it is not some specialized high-reliability encoder.
If you want better advice post more information on that encoder (model number, better photos, info about the equipment, etc.).
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The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
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This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
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– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
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It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
$endgroup$
– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
add a comment |
$begingroup$
By the limited information you give and the (not too great) photo, it seems it is a mechanical encoder, not an optical one.
You don't give any information about the equipment it is mounted on, but 15 years of continuous operation may be quite a lot for a mechanical encoder. Probably the contacts have worn out and there is no reliable way to fix them using any sort of chemical.
Best course of action is to replace it with a new one. The cheapest crappy encoder you can buy on ebay (~1$) could work better than your worn-out encoder, at least for a while.
Of course that is not a suggestion for a long-term fix. If you care about the equipment, you could probably find a suitable replacement on any major component distributor (digikey for example, or RS components), for a couple of dollars.
Just for example, I just did a quick search on digikey trying to find something vaguely similar: BOURNS PEC11L Series - 11 mm Low Profile Encoder (datasheet).
As you can see from this datasheet excerpt (emphasis mine):
the expected minimum encoder life is 100k full rotations.
Assuming (optimistically) that the average life is twofold (200k rotations) and that the shaft is rotated on average 50 times a day (not uncommon in a control console in a work environment) you get 4000 days average life, i.e. about 11 years. Therefore what I initially said about your encoder being at its end of life, is perfectly reasonable.
All this assuming it is not some specialized high-reliability encoder.
If you want better advice post more information on that encoder (model number, better photos, info about the equipment, etc.).
$endgroup$
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The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
$begingroup$
This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
$endgroup$
– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
$begingroup$
It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
$endgroup$
– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
add a comment |
$begingroup$
By the limited information you give and the (not too great) photo, it seems it is a mechanical encoder, not an optical one.
You don't give any information about the equipment it is mounted on, but 15 years of continuous operation may be quite a lot for a mechanical encoder. Probably the contacts have worn out and there is no reliable way to fix them using any sort of chemical.
Best course of action is to replace it with a new one. The cheapest crappy encoder you can buy on ebay (~1$) could work better than your worn-out encoder, at least for a while.
Of course that is not a suggestion for a long-term fix. If you care about the equipment, you could probably find a suitable replacement on any major component distributor (digikey for example, or RS components), for a couple of dollars.
Just for example, I just did a quick search on digikey trying to find something vaguely similar: BOURNS PEC11L Series - 11 mm Low Profile Encoder (datasheet).
As you can see from this datasheet excerpt (emphasis mine):
the expected minimum encoder life is 100k full rotations.
Assuming (optimistically) that the average life is twofold (200k rotations) and that the shaft is rotated on average 50 times a day (not uncommon in a control console in a work environment) you get 4000 days average life, i.e. about 11 years. Therefore what I initially said about your encoder being at its end of life, is perfectly reasonable.
All this assuming it is not some specialized high-reliability encoder.
If you want better advice post more information on that encoder (model number, better photos, info about the equipment, etc.).
$endgroup$
By the limited information you give and the (not too great) photo, it seems it is a mechanical encoder, not an optical one.
You don't give any information about the equipment it is mounted on, but 15 years of continuous operation may be quite a lot for a mechanical encoder. Probably the contacts have worn out and there is no reliable way to fix them using any sort of chemical.
Best course of action is to replace it with a new one. The cheapest crappy encoder you can buy on ebay (~1$) could work better than your worn-out encoder, at least for a while.
Of course that is not a suggestion for a long-term fix. If you care about the equipment, you could probably find a suitable replacement on any major component distributor (digikey for example, or RS components), for a couple of dollars.
Just for example, I just did a quick search on digikey trying to find something vaguely similar: BOURNS PEC11L Series - 11 mm Low Profile Encoder (datasheet).
As you can see from this datasheet excerpt (emphasis mine):
the expected minimum encoder life is 100k full rotations.
Assuming (optimistically) that the average life is twofold (200k rotations) and that the shaft is rotated on average 50 times a day (not uncommon in a control console in a work environment) you get 4000 days average life, i.e. about 11 years. Therefore what I initially said about your encoder being at its end of life, is perfectly reasonable.
All this assuming it is not some specialized high-reliability encoder.
If you want better advice post more information on that encoder (model number, better photos, info about the equipment, etc.).
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The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
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This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
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– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
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It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
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– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
add a comment |
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The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
$begingroup$
This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
$endgroup$
– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
$begingroup$
It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
$endgroup$
– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
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The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
$begingroup$
The knob has been rotated no more than ten times a day. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. I could measure it however.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:07
$begingroup$
This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
$endgroup$
– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
$begingroup$
This, of course, doesn't say what the failure will be, just that it is expected to fail. There could certainly be a failure mode, maybe even a common one, where contact cleaning or blowing out detritus fixes it. Not that replacement isn't the right answer (it is), but a failure expected by spec doesn't nullify the question.
$endgroup$
– Scott Seidman
Jun 17 at 15:34
$begingroup$
It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
$endgroup$
– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
$begingroup$
It's worth double checking what the pin configuration is on the existing one. I don't know if there's a standard but it would certainly not work if you got one with a different pinout!
$endgroup$
– Hearth
Jun 17 at 16:28
add a comment |
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Figure 1. Open the cleats.
I have successfully cleaned an encoder in an audio amplifier by squeezing the cleats on one side enough enable me to create a crack through which I squirted some switch / contact cleaner. (The cans with the straw attached help direct the spray.) Then the switch should be pressed together and the cleats spread once again.
The technique avoids the risk of parts flying off in various directions, not to mention the trouble of finding a suitable replacement, de-soldering, etc.
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
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– Bryce
Jun 18 at 4:07
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It's surprisingly dirty.
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– Transistor
Jun 18 at 7:39
add a comment |
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Figure 1. Open the cleats.
I have successfully cleaned an encoder in an audio amplifier by squeezing the cleats on one side enough enable me to create a crack through which I squirted some switch / contact cleaner. (The cans with the straw attached help direct the spray.) Then the switch should be pressed together and the cleats spread once again.
The technique avoids the risk of parts flying off in various directions, not to mention the trouble of finding a suitable replacement, de-soldering, etc.
$endgroup$
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 18 at 4:07
$begingroup$
It's surprisingly dirty.
$endgroup$
– Transistor
Jun 18 at 7:39
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Figure 1. Open the cleats.
I have successfully cleaned an encoder in an audio amplifier by squeezing the cleats on one side enough enable me to create a crack through which I squirted some switch / contact cleaner. (The cans with the straw attached help direct the spray.) Then the switch should be pressed together and the cleats spread once again.
The technique avoids the risk of parts flying off in various directions, not to mention the trouble of finding a suitable replacement, de-soldering, etc.
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Figure 1. Open the cleats.
I have successfully cleaned an encoder in an audio amplifier by squeezing the cleats on one side enough enable me to create a crack through which I squirted some switch / contact cleaner. (The cans with the straw attached help direct the spray.) Then the switch should be pressed together and the cleats spread once again.
The technique avoids the risk of parts flying off in various directions, not to mention the trouble of finding a suitable replacement, de-soldering, etc.
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
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– Bryce
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It's surprisingly dirty.
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
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– Bryce
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It's surprisingly dirty.
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
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– Bryce
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I opened the cleats, see above for the pic.
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– Bryce
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It's surprisingly dirty.
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– Transistor
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The best way to clean it is replace it. That encoder has a de facto-standard design, and replacements are cheap and readily available (I've got a box with dozens of them, from multiple manufacturers). While it is possible to disassemble and clean one, doing that without first desoldering it from the board would be tricky and could easily result in accidental damage to the board. (Basically, you'd use needle-nose pliers to squeeze the two split-and-flared flanges shown in the photo, as well as the ones on the other side, then lift off the top half from the blue housing.)
If you're reasonably adept with a soldering iron and with a desoldering braid and/or solder sucker, you should be able to replace it yourself without too much difficulty, though an iron under 40 watts or so may have trouble desoldering the anchors on the side. Otherwise, any electronic repair shop can do it for you easily.
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
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– Bryce
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The best way to clean it is replace it. That encoder has a de facto-standard design, and replacements are cheap and readily available (I've got a box with dozens of them, from multiple manufacturers). While it is possible to disassemble and clean one, doing that without first desoldering it from the board would be tricky and could easily result in accidental damage to the board. (Basically, you'd use needle-nose pliers to squeeze the two split-and-flared flanges shown in the photo, as well as the ones on the other side, then lift off the top half from the blue housing.)
If you're reasonably adept with a soldering iron and with a desoldering braid and/or solder sucker, you should be able to replace it yourself without too much difficulty, though an iron under 40 watts or so may have trouble desoldering the anchors on the side. Otherwise, any electronic repair shop can do it for you easily.
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
Jun 17 at 15:38
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Added footprint to question.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 21:33
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The best way to clean it is replace it. That encoder has a de facto-standard design, and replacements are cheap and readily available (I've got a box with dozens of them, from multiple manufacturers). While it is possible to disassemble and clean one, doing that without first desoldering it from the board would be tricky and could easily result in accidental damage to the board. (Basically, you'd use needle-nose pliers to squeeze the two split-and-flared flanges shown in the photo, as well as the ones on the other side, then lift off the top half from the blue housing.)
If you're reasonably adept with a soldering iron and with a desoldering braid and/or solder sucker, you should be able to replace it yourself without too much difficulty, though an iron under 40 watts or so may have trouble desoldering the anchors on the side. Otherwise, any electronic repair shop can do it for you easily.
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The best way to clean it is replace it. That encoder has a de facto-standard design, and replacements are cheap and readily available (I've got a box with dozens of them, from multiple manufacturers). While it is possible to disassemble and clean one, doing that without first desoldering it from the board would be tricky and could easily result in accidental damage to the board. (Basically, you'd use needle-nose pliers to squeeze the two split-and-flared flanges shown in the photo, as well as the ones on the other side, then lift off the top half from the blue housing.)
If you're reasonably adept with a soldering iron and with a desoldering braid and/or solder sucker, you should be able to replace it yourself without too much difficulty, though an iron under 40 watts or so may have trouble desoldering the anchors on the side. Otherwise, any electronic repair shop can do it for you easily.
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answered Jun 17 at 9:35
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
Jun 17 at 15:38
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Added footprint to question.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 21:33
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
Jun 17 at 15:38
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Added footprint to question.
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– Bryce
Jun 17 at 21:33
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Electronics repair shops hardly exist any more. The encoder unfortunately has no visible maker mark or part number. It's clearly a three terminal device. I have a full electronics shop, and a high power iron.
$endgroup$
– Bryce
Jun 17 at 15:10
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
Jun 17 at 15:38
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Then go for it :) These things really differ only by number of detents, shaft shape/length, and presence/absence of a push-button (though of course you can just clip the extra pins off if your spare has a push-button). Ten bucks says you can find a drop-in replacement here as well as here.
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– Sneftel
Jun 17 at 15:38
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Added footprint to question.
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– Bryce
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I simply open it up completely (no desoldering is necessary), then with a small screwdriver scrape up any clean lubricating grease to save for reapplication after cleaning
Then use alcohol and brush to clean away any left over grease on the rotating disk and the small wipers, but be careful, the wipers are very fragile. Then take a pink eraser and clean the disk and tiny wiper pads, this will shine them right up, reclean with alcohol, then re-apply the saved grease.
This step is optional: very slightly bend the wiper contacts to give slightly more mechanical pressure. Reassemble and test. I have fixed countless mechanical encoders this way. Good luck.
P.S. This works on pots too, if the pot or encoder is very worn, you can carefully shift the wiper contacts left or right to contact a new section, this works wonders, almost new again.
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I simply open it up completely (no desoldering is necessary), then with a small screwdriver scrape up any clean lubricating grease to save for reapplication after cleaning
Then use alcohol and brush to clean away any left over grease on the rotating disk and the small wipers, but be careful, the wipers are very fragile. Then take a pink eraser and clean the disk and tiny wiper pads, this will shine them right up, reclean with alcohol, then re-apply the saved grease.
This step is optional: very slightly bend the wiper contacts to give slightly more mechanical pressure. Reassemble and test. I have fixed countless mechanical encoders this way. Good luck.
P.S. This works on pots too, if the pot or encoder is very worn, you can carefully shift the wiper contacts left or right to contact a new section, this works wonders, almost new again.
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I simply open it up completely (no desoldering is necessary), then with a small screwdriver scrape up any clean lubricating grease to save for reapplication after cleaning
Then use alcohol and brush to clean away any left over grease on the rotating disk and the small wipers, but be careful, the wipers are very fragile. Then take a pink eraser and clean the disk and tiny wiper pads, this will shine them right up, reclean with alcohol, then re-apply the saved grease.
This step is optional: very slightly bend the wiper contacts to give slightly more mechanical pressure. Reassemble and test. I have fixed countless mechanical encoders this way. Good luck.
P.S. This works on pots too, if the pot or encoder is very worn, you can carefully shift the wiper contacts left or right to contact a new section, this works wonders, almost new again.
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I simply open it up completely (no desoldering is necessary), then with a small screwdriver scrape up any clean lubricating grease to save for reapplication after cleaning
Then use alcohol and brush to clean away any left over grease on the rotating disk and the small wipers, but be careful, the wipers are very fragile. Then take a pink eraser and clean the disk and tiny wiper pads, this will shine them right up, reclean with alcohol, then re-apply the saved grease.
This step is optional: very slightly bend the wiper contacts to give slightly more mechanical pressure. Reassemble and test. I have fixed countless mechanical encoders this way. Good luck.
P.S. This works on pots too, if the pot or encoder is very worn, you can carefully shift the wiper contacts left or right to contact a new section, this works wonders, almost new again.
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Just out of curiosity, is this a Yamaha digital audio mixer?
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– Tyler Stone
Jun 16 at 20:43
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It looks like it's soldered in place - do you know how to use a soldering iron?
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– nick012000
Jun 17 at 6:39
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Yes, I can solder. This only has 5 contacts (including the ground lug). The existing solder contacts look solid, but I should first try to freshen them up, in case there are micro-cracks in the solder from use.
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– Bryce
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You should try cleaning it before replacing it. Better for the environment!
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– hekete
Jun 18 at 6:55