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What is the difference between kosoto-gari and kosoto-gake?


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Kosoto-gari and kosoto-gake are superficially similar techniques. I have seen many high level judoka call what I would have called -gari -gake and vice versa - what distinguishes these techniques?










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          This quotation is attributed to Kyuzo Mifune on page 162 of Kodokan Judo: Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo.




          Sweeping is similar to brushing an extremely light object away.



          When hooking, you execute the technique as if pulling a rooted plant out from the ground.



          Reaping is similar to the movement of reaping and cutting off a plant at its root with a sickle.




          A kosoto gari is reap, where the side of tori's foot maintains contact with the mat. A kosoto gake is a hooking, where tori's leg bends and tori's foot comes off the mat.



          As a strict classification issue, the key point is the action of tori's attacking leg. Does it leave the mat? Then it's a gake. Otherwise it's a gari.



          Personal thoughts



          I find kosoto gake to be most effective as a counter technique. The opponent enters for a throw where they are turning their back and standing on one leg (for example: harai goshi, hane goshi, uchi mata, ashi guruma), and you disrupt their balance and attack the far leg. As a strict Kodokan classification, this throwing action may unfortunately be classified as a harai goshi gaeshi, hane goshi gaeshi, or uchi mata gaeshi. Note that this does not apply to all throws, only these three. A counter to ashi guruma is not an ashi guruma gaeshi because this is not recognized as a distinct throw.



          At the close distance for the counter and uke's weight firmly on the supporting foot, I find timing of kuzushi with the body and a strong hooking action necessary to successfully counter. For kosoto gari, the action of the hands becomes more important to break uke's balance over the heels to setup the reap.






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            This quotation is attributed to Kyuzo Mifune on page 162 of Kodokan Judo: Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo.




            Sweeping is similar to brushing an extremely light object away.



            When hooking, you execute the technique as if pulling a rooted plant out from the ground.



            Reaping is similar to the movement of reaping and cutting off a plant at its root with a sickle.




            A kosoto gari is reap, where the side of tori's foot maintains contact with the mat. A kosoto gake is a hooking, where tori's leg bends and tori's foot comes off the mat.



            As a strict classification issue, the key point is the action of tori's attacking leg. Does it leave the mat? Then it's a gake. Otherwise it's a gari.



            Personal thoughts



            I find kosoto gake to be most effective as a counter technique. The opponent enters for a throw where they are turning their back and standing on one leg (for example: harai goshi, hane goshi, uchi mata, ashi guruma), and you disrupt their balance and attack the far leg. As a strict Kodokan classification, this throwing action may unfortunately be classified as a harai goshi gaeshi, hane goshi gaeshi, or uchi mata gaeshi. Note that this does not apply to all throws, only these three. A counter to ashi guruma is not an ashi guruma gaeshi because this is not recognized as a distinct throw.



            At the close distance for the counter and uke's weight firmly on the supporting foot, I find timing of kuzushi with the body and a strong hooking action necessary to successfully counter. For kosoto gari, the action of the hands becomes more important to break uke's balance over the heels to setup the reap.






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              Excerpt of Canonical Answer



              This quotation is attributed to Kyuzo Mifune on page 162 of Kodokan Judo: Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo.




              Sweeping is similar to brushing an extremely light object away.



              When hooking, you execute the technique as if pulling a rooted plant out from the ground.



              Reaping is similar to the movement of reaping and cutting off a plant at its root with a sickle.




              A kosoto gari is reap, where the side of tori's foot maintains contact with the mat. A kosoto gake is a hooking, where tori's leg bends and tori's foot comes off the mat.



              As a strict classification issue, the key point is the action of tori's attacking leg. Does it leave the mat? Then it's a gake. Otherwise it's a gari.



              Personal thoughts



              I find kosoto gake to be most effective as a counter technique. The opponent enters for a throw where they are turning their back and standing on one leg (for example: harai goshi, hane goshi, uchi mata, ashi guruma), and you disrupt their balance and attack the far leg. As a strict Kodokan classification, this throwing action may unfortunately be classified as a harai goshi gaeshi, hane goshi gaeshi, or uchi mata gaeshi. Note that this does not apply to all throws, only these three. A counter to ashi guruma is not an ashi guruma gaeshi because this is not recognized as a distinct throw.



              At the close distance for the counter and uke's weight firmly on the supporting foot, I find timing of kuzushi with the body and a strong hooking action necessary to successfully counter. For kosoto gari, the action of the hands becomes more important to break uke's balance over the heels to setup the reap.






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                This quotation is attributed to Kyuzo Mifune on page 162 of Kodokan Judo: Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo.




                Sweeping is similar to brushing an extremely light object away.



                When hooking, you execute the technique as if pulling a rooted plant out from the ground.



                Reaping is similar to the movement of reaping and cutting off a plant at its root with a sickle.




                A kosoto gari is reap, where the side of tori's foot maintains contact with the mat. A kosoto gake is a hooking, where tori's leg bends and tori's foot comes off the mat.



                As a strict classification issue, the key point is the action of tori's attacking leg. Does it leave the mat? Then it's a gake. Otherwise it's a gari.



                Personal thoughts



                I find kosoto gake to be most effective as a counter technique. The opponent enters for a throw where they are turning their back and standing on one leg (for example: harai goshi, hane goshi, uchi mata, ashi guruma), and you disrupt their balance and attack the far leg. As a strict Kodokan classification, this throwing action may unfortunately be classified as a harai goshi gaeshi, hane goshi gaeshi, or uchi mata gaeshi. Note that this does not apply to all throws, only these three. A counter to ashi guruma is not an ashi guruma gaeshi because this is not recognized as a distinct throw.



                At the close distance for the counter and uke's weight firmly on the supporting foot, I find timing of kuzushi with the body and a strong hooking action necessary to successfully counter. For kosoto gari, the action of the hands becomes more important to break uke's balance over the heels to setup the reap.






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                This quotation is attributed to Kyuzo Mifune on page 162 of Kodokan Judo: Throwing Techniques by Toshiro Daigo.




                Sweeping is similar to brushing an extremely light object away.



                When hooking, you execute the technique as if pulling a rooted plant out from the ground.



                Reaping is similar to the movement of reaping and cutting off a plant at its root with a sickle.




                A kosoto gari is reap, where the side of tori's foot maintains contact with the mat. A kosoto gake is a hooking, where tori's leg bends and tori's foot comes off the mat.



                As a strict classification issue, the key point is the action of tori's attacking leg. Does it leave the mat? Then it's a gake. Otherwise it's a gari.



                Personal thoughts



                I find kosoto gake to be most effective as a counter technique. The opponent enters for a throw where they are turning their back and standing on one leg (for example: harai goshi, hane goshi, uchi mata, ashi guruma), and you disrupt their balance and attack the far leg. As a strict Kodokan classification, this throwing action may unfortunately be classified as a harai goshi gaeshi, hane goshi gaeshi, or uchi mata gaeshi. Note that this does not apply to all throws, only these three. A counter to ashi guruma is not an ashi guruma gaeshi because this is not recognized as a distinct throw.



                At the close distance for the counter and uke's weight firmly on the supporting foot, I find timing of kuzushi with the body and a strong hooking action necessary to successfully counter. For kosoto gari, the action of the hands becomes more important to break uke's balance over the heels to setup the reap.







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