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Tensor Product with Trivial Vector Space
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This question seems obvious and yet I can't seem to find a good answer anywhere.
Let $V$ be a finite dimensional vector space, and let $0$ denote the trivial vector space. Is $V otimes 0 = 0$ or $V otimes 0 = V$? My gut tells me that it is the second case, but in thinking about dimension, tensor product should multiply dimension in which case I think it is the first case.
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This question seems obvious and yet I can't seem to find a good answer anywhere.
Let $V$ be a finite dimensional vector space, and let $0$ denote the trivial vector space. Is $V otimes 0 = 0$ or $V otimes 0 = V$? My gut tells me that it is the second case, but in thinking about dimension, tensor product should multiply dimension in which case I think it is the first case.
linear-algebra vector-spaces tensor-products
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf votimesbf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes 0bf 0=0bf votimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$. Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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@runway44 that is IMO a better answer than the two given ones. Why did you post it as a comment?
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This question seems obvious and yet I can't seem to find a good answer anywhere.
Let $V$ be a finite dimensional vector space, and let $0$ denote the trivial vector space. Is $V otimes 0 = 0$ or $V otimes 0 = V$? My gut tells me that it is the second case, but in thinking about dimension, tensor product should multiply dimension in which case I think it is the first case.
linear-algebra vector-spaces tensor-products
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This question seems obvious and yet I can't seem to find a good answer anywhere.
Let $V$ be a finite dimensional vector space, and let $0$ denote the trivial vector space. Is $V otimes 0 = 0$ or $V otimes 0 = V$? My gut tells me that it is the second case, but in thinking about dimension, tensor product should multiply dimension in which case I think it is the first case.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf votimesbf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes 0bf 0=0bf votimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$. Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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@runway44 that is IMO a better answer than the two given ones. Why did you post it as a comment?
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Jul 25 at 10:11
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf votimesbf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes 0bf 0=0bf votimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$. Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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– runway44
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@runway44 that is IMO a better answer than the two given ones. Why did you post it as a comment?
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf votimesbf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes 0bf 0=0bf votimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$. Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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– runway44
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf votimesbf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes 0bf 0=0bf votimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$. Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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@runway44 that is IMO a better answer than the two given ones. Why did you post it as a comment?
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Jul 25 at 10:11
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@runway44 that is IMO a better answer than the two given ones. Why did you post it as a comment?
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Notice that the space of bilinear maps $f:Vtimes 0to k$ consists of exactly the zero map, therefore the constant map $w:Vtimes 0to0$ satisfies the universal property of the tensor product: $w$ is bilinear and any bilinear map $f:Vtimes0to k$ is the constant zero map, therefore the linear map $0:0to k$ satisfies $f=0circ w$. $0$ is also the only linear map $0to k$, so it's a fortiori the only linear map $g$ such that $f=gcirc w$.
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Recall that the tensor product $Votimes W$ of two finite-dimensional vector spaces $V$ and $W$ satisfy the dimension formula $dim(Votimes W)=dim(V)cdotdim(W)$.
So, tensoring a finite-dimensional vector space $V$ with the trivial vector space $0$ yields a vector space $Votimes 0$ with dimension
$$
dim(Votimes 0)=dim(V)cdotdim(0)=dim(V)cdot 0 = 0
$$
This implies that $Votimes0$ is itself the trivial vector space $Votimes 0=0$.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf v⊗bf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes (0cdotbf 0)=(0cdotbf v)otimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$.
Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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Notice that the space of bilinear maps $f:Vtimes 0to k$ consists of exactly the zero map, therefore the constant map $w:Vtimes 0to0$ satisfies the universal property of the tensor product: $w$ is bilinear and any bilinear map $f:Vtimes0to k$ is the constant zero map, therefore the linear map $0:0to k$ satisfies $f=0circ w$. $0$ is also the only linear map $0to k$, so it's a fortiori the only linear map $g$ such that $f=gcirc w$.
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Notice that the space of bilinear maps $f:Vtimes 0to k$ consists of exactly the zero map, therefore the constant map $w:Vtimes 0to0$ satisfies the universal property of the tensor product: $w$ is bilinear and any bilinear map $f:Vtimes0to k$ is the constant zero map, therefore the linear map $0:0to k$ satisfies $f=0circ w$. $0$ is also the only linear map $0to k$, so it's a fortiori the only linear map $g$ such that $f=gcirc w$.
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Notice that the space of bilinear maps $f:Vtimes 0to k$ consists of exactly the zero map, therefore the constant map $w:Vtimes 0to0$ satisfies the universal property of the tensor product: $w$ is bilinear and any bilinear map $f:Vtimes0to k$ is the constant zero map, therefore the linear map $0:0to k$ satisfies $f=0circ w$. $0$ is also the only linear map $0to k$, so it's a fortiori the only linear map $g$ such that $f=gcirc w$.
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Notice that the space of bilinear maps $f:Vtimes 0to k$ consists of exactly the zero map, therefore the constant map $w:Vtimes 0to0$ satisfies the universal property of the tensor product: $w$ is bilinear and any bilinear map $f:Vtimes0to k$ is the constant zero map, therefore the linear map $0:0to k$ satisfies $f=0circ w$. $0$ is also the only linear map $0to k$, so it's a fortiori the only linear map $g$ such that $f=gcirc w$.
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Recall that the tensor product $Votimes W$ of two finite-dimensional vector spaces $V$ and $W$ satisfy the dimension formula $dim(Votimes W)=dim(V)cdotdim(W)$.
So, tensoring a finite-dimensional vector space $V$ with the trivial vector space $0$ yields a vector space $Votimes 0$ with dimension
$$
dim(Votimes 0)=dim(V)cdotdim(0)=dim(V)cdot 0 = 0
$$
This implies that $Votimes0$ is itself the trivial vector space $Votimes 0=0$.
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Recall that the tensor product $Votimes W$ of two finite-dimensional vector spaces $V$ and $W$ satisfy the dimension formula $dim(Votimes W)=dim(V)cdotdim(W)$.
So, tensoring a finite-dimensional vector space $V$ with the trivial vector space $0$ yields a vector space $Votimes 0$ with dimension
$$
dim(Votimes 0)=dim(V)cdotdim(0)=dim(V)cdot 0 = 0
$$
This implies that $Votimes0$ is itself the trivial vector space $Votimes 0=0$.
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Recall that the tensor product $Votimes W$ of two finite-dimensional vector spaces $V$ and $W$ satisfy the dimension formula $dim(Votimes W)=dim(V)cdotdim(W)$.
So, tensoring a finite-dimensional vector space $V$ with the trivial vector space $0$ yields a vector space $Votimes 0$ with dimension
$$
dim(Votimes 0)=dim(V)cdotdim(0)=dim(V)cdot 0 = 0
$$
This implies that $Votimes0$ is itself the trivial vector space $Votimes 0=0$.
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Recall that the tensor product $Votimes W$ of two finite-dimensional vector spaces $V$ and $W$ satisfy the dimension formula $dim(Votimes W)=dim(V)cdotdim(W)$.
So, tensoring a finite-dimensional vector space $V$ with the trivial vector space $0$ yields a vector space $Votimes 0$ with dimension
$$
dim(Votimes 0)=dim(V)cdotdim(0)=dim(V)cdot 0 = 0
$$
This implies that $Votimes0$ is itself the trivial vector space $Votimes 0=0$.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf v⊗bf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes (0cdotbf 0)=(0cdotbf v)otimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$.
Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf v⊗bf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes (0cdotbf 0)=(0cdotbf v)otimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$.
Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf v⊗bf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes (0cdotbf 0)=(0cdotbf v)otimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$.
Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf v⊗bf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes (0cdotbf 0)=(0cdotbf v)otimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$.
Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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The elements of $Votimes 0$ are sums of pure tensors of the form $bf votimesbf 0$. Then, as we can slide scalars across the $otimes$ symbol, we have $bf votimesbf 0=bf votimes 0bf 0=0bf votimesbf 0=bf 0otimesbf 0$. Thus, there is only one element in $Votimes 0$, the zero tensor.
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