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Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Transitive/Intransitive + にくい (and +られる)Particle confusionHow to write about something in the future where something will have happenedSome questions regarding ~てくる (edited)Transforming verbsSpan of time - Does the pronunciation stays the same as it rotates from 1-10?How does 最初の何年かは work here?How does this 今できなくても、できるとき work?I still can't understand how to use でも (and what it's supposed to mean)What is the nuance between 内に and 間に in these sentences?










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Compare the following sentences:




日本語を勉強しはじめた。

日本語を勉強するようになった。




I normally think of ようになる as expressing a gradual change. So maybe I studied just a little bit two years ago, a bit more last year, and this year I'm studying hard. I suspect that this is not what 勉強するようになった actually means though. Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that from now on I will study Japanese?



What about はじめる? It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time". I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no restrictions on time etc. Now I'm not so sure.



In short, when should I use はじめる and when should I use ようになる to describe starting something.










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  • It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time" <-- ん? I don't think 始める implies "the action will not be continuing for a long time"..

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Compare the following sentences:




日本語を勉強しはじめた。

日本語を勉強するようになった。




I normally think of ようになる as expressing a gradual change. So maybe I studied just a little bit two years ago, a bit more last year, and this year I'm studying hard. I suspect that this is not what 勉強するようになった actually means though. Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that from now on I will study Japanese?



What about はじめる? It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time". I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no restrictions on time etc. Now I'm not so sure.



In short, when should I use はじめる and when should I use ようになる to describe starting something.










share|improve this question
























  • It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time" <-- ん? I don't think 始める implies "the action will not be continuing for a long time"..

    – Chocolate
    yesterday














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Compare the following sentences:




日本語を勉強しはじめた。

日本語を勉強するようになった。




I normally think of ようになる as expressing a gradual change. So maybe I studied just a little bit two years ago, a bit more last year, and this year I'm studying hard. I suspect that this is not what 勉強するようになった actually means though. Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that from now on I will study Japanese?



What about はじめる? It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time". I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no restrictions on time etc. Now I'm not so sure.



In short, when should I use はじめる and when should I use ようになる to describe starting something.










share|improve this question
















Compare the following sentences:




日本語を勉強しはじめた。

日本語を勉強するようになった。




I normally think of ようになる as expressing a gradual change. So maybe I studied just a little bit two years ago, a bit more last year, and this year I'm studying hard. I suspect that this is not what 勉強するようになった actually means though. Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that from now on I will study Japanese?



What about はじめる? It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time". I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no restrictions on time etc. Now I'm not so sure.



In short, when should I use はじめる and when should I use ようになる to describe starting something.







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  • It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time" <-- ん? I don't think 始める implies "the action will not be continuing for a long time"..

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  • It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time" <-- ん? I don't think 始める implies "the action will not be continuing for a long time"..

    – Chocolate
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It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time" <-- ん? I don't think 始める implies "the action will not be continuing for a long time"..

– Chocolate
yesterday






It was suggested to me in a comment to one of my answers that はじめる is "to start doing something at the moment and implies that the action will not be continuing for a long time" <-- ん? I don't think 始める implies "the action will not be continuing for a long time"..

– Chocolate
yesterday











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Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that
from now on I will study Japanese?




It can't unless you actually work on it. However...




Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state?




Yes, once the sudden change is carried out, you can use it.




I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no
restrictions on time etc.




How you understand it is correct. In other words, はじめる doesn't necessarily mean it's a habit, which ようになる implies. So, 勉強しはじめる just generally means to start studying, while 勉強するようになる means that how one studies becomes a habit.




日本語を勉強してはじめた




It means that you started something after you studied Japanese.






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Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that
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It can't unless you actually work on it. However...




Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state?




Yes, once the sudden change is carried out, you can use it.




I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no
restrictions on time etc.




How you understand it is correct. In other words, はじめる doesn't necessarily mean it's a habit, which ようになる implies. So, 勉強しはじめる just generally means to start studying, while 勉強するようになる means that how one studies becomes a habit.




日本語を勉強してはじめた




It means that you started something after you studied Japanese.






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  • Sorry, don't know why I added て in there. I didn't mean to.

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    yesterday















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Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that
from now on I will study Japanese?




It can't unless you actually work on it. However...




Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state?




Yes, once the sudden change is carried out, you can use it.




I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no
restrictions on time etc.




How you understand it is correct. In other words, はじめる doesn't necessarily mean it's a habit, which ようになる implies. So, 勉強しはじめる just generally means to start studying, while 勉強するようになる means that how one studies becomes a habit.




日本語を勉強してはじめた




It means that you started something after you studied Japanese.






share|improve this answer























  • Sorry, don't know why I added て in there. I didn't mean to.

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Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that
from now on I will study Japanese?




It can't unless you actually work on it. However...




Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state?




Yes, once the sudden change is carried out, you can use it.




I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no
restrictions on time etc.




How you understand it is correct. In other words, はじめる doesn't necessarily mean it's a habit, which ようになる implies. So, 勉強しはじめる just generally means to start studying, while 勉強するようになる means that how one studies becomes a habit.




日本語を勉強してはじめた




It means that you started something after you studied Japanese.






share|improve this answer














Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state, i.e. today I decided that
from now on I will study Japanese?




It can't unless you actually work on it. However...




Can ようになる describe a sudden change of state?




Yes, once the sudden change is carried out, you can use it.




I always used to think that はじめる simply meant "to start" with no
restrictions on time etc.




How you understand it is correct. In other words, はじめる doesn't necessarily mean it's a habit, which ようになる implies. So, 勉強しはじめる just generally means to start studying, while 勉強するようになる means that how one studies becomes a habit.




日本語を勉強してはじめた




It means that you started something after you studied Japanese.







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