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Does it look bad as a candidate if I apply to two post-doctoral positions at the same national research laboratory?
Should one research multiple independent topics while pursuing a PhD?I get admited to a PhD program without a master degree. Does it hurt when I apply for a postdoc?How to inform/attract more candidates for a postdoctoral position?Accepted post-doc and have subsequently received offers for full time faculty position - quandaryShould Research Associates apply for Post-Doc research positions if they want to?Consequences of applying to both research and staff positions at the same school simultaneouslyHow will returning to your PhD advisor as a post-doc affect future career options in academia?Will a 2-year post-doc in deep-learning harm me in the long-term?Is it bad to apply for a second postdoc immediately after starting a first one?Stating a post doc research fellowship that I declined on my CV due to personal reasons?
I am generally applying to lecturer/post-doc/assistant professor positions right now and the laboratory I am interested in has two positions opened and they are closely related in terms of research areas. I am curious whether to apply both at the same time with different cover letters stating why I am suitable for each position or would it look bad and desperate rather than interested if I do that?
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I am generally applying to lecturer/post-doc/assistant professor positions right now and the laboratory I am interested in has two positions opened and they are closely related in terms of research areas. I am curious whether to apply both at the same time with different cover letters stating why I am suitable for each position or would it look bad and desperate rather than interested if I do that?
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As a manager at a US national lab, I've never been bothered by an applicant applying for positions at the lab (other than / in addition) to mine. People want jobs and usually are flexible. I was a post-doc once too...
– Jon Custer
Apr 29 at 17:10
I'm guessing it might get awkward if you change your CV and letter significantly between sending it to the different positions, and they both end up on the same manager or HR person's desk.
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 29 at 17:55
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I am generally applying to lecturer/post-doc/assistant professor positions right now and the laboratory I am interested in has two positions opened and they are closely related in terms of research areas. I am curious whether to apply both at the same time with different cover letters stating why I am suitable for each position or would it look bad and desperate rather than interested if I do that?
postdocs
asked Apr 29 at 16:58
kukushkinkukushkin
75127
I am generally applying to lecturer/post-doc/assistant professor positions right now and the laboratory I am interested in has two positions opened and they are closely related in terms of research areas. I am curious whether to apply both at the same time with different cover letters stating why I am suitable for each position or would it look bad and desperate rather than interested if I do that?
postdocs
postdocs
asked Apr 29 at 16:58
kukushkinkukushkin
75127
asked Apr 29 at 16:58
kukushkinkukushkin
75127
asked Apr 29 at 16:58
kukushkinkukushkin
75127
asked Apr 29 at 16:58
kukushkinkukushkin
75127
asked Apr 29 at 16:58
kukushkinkukushkin
75127
75127
As a manager at a US national lab, I've never been bothered by an applicant applying for positions at the lab (other than / in addition) to mine. People want jobs and usually are flexible. I was a post-doc once too...
– Jon Custer
Apr 29 at 17:10
I'm guessing it might get awkward if you change your CV and letter significantly between sending it to the different positions, and they both end up on the same manager or HR person's desk.
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 29 at 17:55
add a comment |
As a manager at a US national lab, I've never been bothered by an applicant applying for positions at the lab (other than / in addition) to mine. People want jobs and usually are flexible. I was a post-doc once too...
– Jon Custer
Apr 29 at 17:10
I'm guessing it might get awkward if you change your CV and letter significantly between sending it to the different positions, and they both end up on the same manager or HR person's desk.
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 29 at 17:55
As a manager at a US national lab, I've never been bothered by an applicant applying for positions at the lab (other than / in addition) to mine. People want jobs and usually are flexible. I was a post-doc once too...
– Jon Custer
Apr 29 at 17:10
As a manager at a US national lab, I've never been bothered by an applicant applying for positions at the lab (other than / in addition) to mine. People want jobs and usually are flexible. I was a post-doc once too...
– Jon Custer
Apr 29 at 17:10
I'm guessing it might get awkward if you change your CV and letter significantly between sending it to the different positions, and they both end up on the same manager or HR person's desk.
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 29 at 17:55
I'm guessing it might get awkward if you change your CV and letter significantly between sending it to the different positions, and they both end up on the same manager or HR person's desk.
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 29 at 17:55
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It's fine. A lot of times the divisions are pretty separate profit (err...cost) centers. I've also seen people apply to CRD and an SBU also at conglomerates. It's usually fine. Just let them know if things get serious with both of them (invited for visit, say, or for sure competing offers). They won't want to negotiate against each other and one will likely bow out. You should have a preference at that time to control which direction you want to go, rather than letting them make the call. But this only applies when things are at a later state.
If you are just prospecting, spread your availability wide like tree pollen. Ideally, you will have some competing offers that are completely outside the given national lab as well (so you still end up with multiple offers).
P.s. (in answer response to a comment above) I would not feel bad about HR seeing resumes that differ slightly either. Go ahead and tailor the resumes versus the opportunity. Obviously your name, etc. should be identical. And use the same format. But if you have enough experience that you can emphasize computer work for the computer position and lab work for the lab position, that is fine. Don't misrepresent yourself. But respond to their stated needs. That is normal. I would also add that the likelihood that they end up on the table together is low. Even if you go through a central system, they will probably be presorted by job posting. In any case, as long as you can look at the two documents and see that there is not a lie, you're fine. Emphasizing Aishness for A and Bishness for B is not wrong. And in fact, HR experts will tell you to do that!
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It's fine. A lot of times the divisions are pretty separate profit (err...cost) centers. I've also seen people apply to CRD and an SBU also at conglomerates. It's usually fine. Just let them know if things get serious with both of them (invited for visit, say, or for sure competing offers). They won't want to negotiate against each other and one will likely bow out. You should have a preference at that time to control which direction you want to go, rather than letting them make the call. But this only applies when things are at a later state.
If you are just prospecting, spread your availability wide like tree pollen. Ideally, you will have some competing offers that are completely outside the given national lab as well (so you still end up with multiple offers).
P.s. (in answer response to a comment above) I would not feel bad about HR seeing resumes that differ slightly either. Go ahead and tailor the resumes versus the opportunity. Obviously your name, etc. should be identical. And use the same format. But if you have enough experience that you can emphasize computer work for the computer position and lab work for the lab position, that is fine. Don't misrepresent yourself. But respond to their stated needs. That is normal. I would also add that the likelihood that they end up on the table together is low. Even if you go through a central system, they will probably be presorted by job posting. In any case, as long as you can look at the two documents and see that there is not a lie, you're fine. Emphasizing Aishness for A and Bishness for B is not wrong. And in fact, HR experts will tell you to do that!
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It's fine. A lot of times the divisions are pretty separate profit (err...cost) centers. I've also seen people apply to CRD and an SBU also at conglomerates. It's usually fine. Just let them know if things get serious with both of them (invited for visit, say, or for sure competing offers). They won't want to negotiate against each other and one will likely bow out. You should have a preference at that time to control which direction you want to go, rather than letting them make the call. But this only applies when things are at a later state.
If you are just prospecting, spread your availability wide like tree pollen. Ideally, you will have some competing offers that are completely outside the given national lab as well (so you still end up with multiple offers).
P.s. (in answer response to a comment above) I would not feel bad about HR seeing resumes that differ slightly either. Go ahead and tailor the resumes versus the opportunity. Obviously your name, etc. should be identical. And use the same format. But if you have enough experience that you can emphasize computer work for the computer position and lab work for the lab position, that is fine. Don't misrepresent yourself. But respond to their stated needs. That is normal. I would also add that the likelihood that they end up on the table together is low. Even if you go through a central system, they will probably be presorted by job posting. In any case, as long as you can look at the two documents and see that there is not a lie, you're fine. Emphasizing Aishness for A and Bishness for B is not wrong. And in fact, HR experts will tell you to do that!
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It's fine. A lot of times the divisions are pretty separate profit (err...cost) centers. I've also seen people apply to CRD and an SBU also at conglomerates. It's usually fine. Just let them know if things get serious with both of them (invited for visit, say, or for sure competing offers). They won't want to negotiate against each other and one will likely bow out. You should have a preference at that time to control which direction you want to go, rather than letting them make the call. But this only applies when things are at a later state.
If you are just prospecting, spread your availability wide like tree pollen. Ideally, you will have some competing offers that are completely outside the given national lab as well (so you still end up with multiple offers).
P.s. (in answer response to a comment above) I would not feel bad about HR seeing resumes that differ slightly either. Go ahead and tailor the resumes versus the opportunity. Obviously your name, etc. should be identical. And use the same format. But if you have enough experience that you can emphasize computer work for the computer position and lab work for the lab position, that is fine. Don't misrepresent yourself. But respond to their stated needs. That is normal. I would also add that the likelihood that they end up on the table together is low. Even if you go through a central system, they will probably be presorted by job posting. In any case, as long as you can look at the two documents and see that there is not a lie, you're fine. Emphasizing Aishness for A and Bishness for B is not wrong. And in fact, HR experts will tell you to do that!
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It's fine. A lot of times the divisions are pretty separate profit (err...cost) centers. I've also seen people apply to CRD and an SBU also at conglomerates. It's usually fine. Just let them know if things get serious with both of them (invited for visit, say, or for sure competing offers). They won't want to negotiate against each other and one will likely bow out. You should have a preference at that time to control which direction you want to go, rather than letting them make the call. But this only applies when things are at a later state.
If you are just prospecting, spread your availability wide like tree pollen. Ideally, you will have some competing offers that are completely outside the given national lab as well (so you still end up with multiple offers).
P.s. (in answer response to a comment above) I would not feel bad about HR seeing resumes that differ slightly either. Go ahead and tailor the resumes versus the opportunity. Obviously your name, etc. should be identical. And use the same format. But if you have enough experience that you can emphasize computer work for the computer position and lab work for the lab position, that is fine. Don't misrepresent yourself. But respond to their stated needs. That is normal. I would also add that the likelihood that they end up on the table together is low. Even if you go through a central system, they will probably be presorted by job posting. In any case, as long as you can look at the two documents and see that there is not a lie, you're fine. Emphasizing Aishness for A and Bishness for B is not wrong. And in fact, HR experts will tell you to do that!
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As a manager at a US national lab, I've never been bothered by an applicant applying for positions at the lab (other than / in addition) to mine. People want jobs and usually are flexible. I was a post-doc once too...
– Jon Custer
Apr 29 at 17:10
I'm guessing it might get awkward if you change your CV and letter significantly between sending it to the different positions, and they both end up on the same manager or HR person's desk.
– A Simple Algorithm
Apr 29 at 17:55