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Using new lumber in an old wall with larger lumber dimensions
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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
edited May 31 at 19:36
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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
edited May 31 at 19:36
isherwood
53k562137
asked May 31 at 19:16
John PflegerJohn Pfleger
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1
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:10
3
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
May 31 at 20:44
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
May 31 at 21:00
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 21:11
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
Jun 1 at 3:31
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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
edited May 31 at 19:36
isherwood
53k562137
asked May 31 at 19:16
John PflegerJohn Pfleger
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I am trying to widen the doorway to a room in a house that was build in 1905. the framing is 16 on center, however the lumber is wider than a standard 2x4. by about a 1/2 inch. (the actual dimensions of the wood are 2x4).
I can position the jackstuds so that they are flush with the wall of the room, but that would leave a gap on the other side.
How should I handle this? Should I rip a 2x6 to fit?
EDIT: the wall is load bearing
framing old-house renovation
framing old-house renovation
edited May 31 at 19:36
isherwood
53k562137
asked May 31 at 19:16
John PflegerJohn Pfleger
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edited May 31 at 19:36
isherwood
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isherwood
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1
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:10
3
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
May 31 at 20:44
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
May 31 at 21:00
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 21:11
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
Jun 1 at 3:31
|
show 4 more comments
1
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:10
3
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
May 31 at 20:44
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
May 31 at 21:00
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 21:11
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
Jun 1 at 3:31
1
1
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:10
Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:10
3
3
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
May 31 at 20:44
If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
May 31 at 20:44
2
2
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
May 31 at 21:00
@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
May 31 at 21:00
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 21:11
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 21:11
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
Jun 1 at 3:31
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
Jun 1 at 3:31
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You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
add a comment |
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 rating for frame work.Or if you can reuse some of the old lumber. Apply a new header .
They should make it, but they do not.
answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
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You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
add a comment |
You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
add a comment |
You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
You may have to rip a larger board, but you might be able to find "rough cut" lumber at some yards. I had a house built in 1910, I had the same problem. I was able to find rough cut lumber for interior framing work, but for anything exposed, I had to mill down larger boards.
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
answered May 31 at 19:20
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
5,259214
5,259214
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
add a comment |
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Rough cut lumber does not have the #2 rating for a frame.. It is rough cut.And has no rating.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:05
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
Frame a house with rough cut lumber.Let me know in the state you are .How that worked out.You may be ok for the studs. But joist and rafters .Trouble.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:18
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
add a comment |
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
You either rip a 2x6 or you stagger frame 2x4s by butting them to one side then the other. If the wall isn't load bearing it doesn't really matter.
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
answered May 31 at 19:21
DMooreDMoore
29.3k1354122
29.3k1354122
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
add a comment |
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
That is fine. Is lot of wasted money.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:08
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
@RobertMoody - Maybe $10? Maybe.
– DMoore
Jun 1 at 23:17
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
Ten bucks is ten bucks. Times that out adds up.
– Robert Moody
Jun 1 at 23:22
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - no he said for one wall. There is no times.
– DMoore
Jun 2 at 17:59
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
@RobertMoody - your comments aren't helping anyone. Work on making your answer better. Nobody knows what a filler strip is. Also link to buying a filler strip for people. How do you install filler strip if the filler strip has drywall screwed into it how does it react? Work on giving a good answer, not dissing the best answer. No carpenter would put up a 2x4 with a "filler strip" for an application like this - ever.
– DMoore
Jun 3 at 0:25
add a comment |
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 rating for frame work.Or if you can reuse some of the old lumber. Apply a new header .
They should make it, but they do not.
answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
31711
add a comment |
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 rating for frame work.Or if you can reuse some of the old lumber. Apply a new header .
They should make it, but they do not.
answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
31711
add a comment |
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 rating for frame work.Or if you can reuse some of the old lumber. Apply a new header .
They should make it, but they do not.
answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
31711
Frame with 2x4, add a filler strip. The filler strip to make walls flush or same thickness. Way cheaper than wasting a 2x6. You can not find #2 rated framing stock full 2 inch by 4 inch. Rough lumber does not have the #2 rating for frame work.Or if you can reuse some of the old lumber. Apply a new header .
They should make it, but they do not.
answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
31711
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answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
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answered May 31 at 19:51
Robert MoodyRobert Moody
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Robert MoodyRobert Moody
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Never heard of this. Add a filler to 2x4, cheaper. Or rip down 2x6.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 20:10
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If you are widening an existing doorway, can you remove the existing king and jack studs without shortening them and reuse them? The only new lumber needed would be for a new, longer header, right? Otherwise it would seem that only a small amount of 2x4 stud lumber would be needed so the expense of ripping 2x6 stud grade to a full 4" would be very little. Will the wider doorway require a deeper header?
– Jim Stewart
May 31 at 20:44
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@JimStewart I wish I’d thought of that...reuse the trimmer and king stud. Then, just a new header and a few studs are required. Even the studs that are being removed for the wider door opening can be reused. (Be sure to use KD lumber for the rest of the framing.)
– Lee Sam
May 31 at 21:00
If you have to replace a few studs in house' And have Some 2x6 around .Use them rip through table saw. Both work.
– Robert Moody
May 31 at 21:11
@RobertMoody In an older house I could see them having unfinished 2x4s, which would be closer to an actual 2" x 4"
– Machavity
Jun 1 at 3:31