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Can “y” be used not just for locations?
When to use the pronoun en?Can “y” replace proper nouns or not?Can adjectives be used as adverbs?When are “les”, “des”, etc used or not used?Why is “c'est” used in this sentence and not “est”?Can “aussi” be used to mean “either”?Can “ne… pas que” mean “Not only”?Why “me l'ont blessé” and not just “m'ont blessé” in this sentence?When can “tout” be used to mean “any”?Which prepositions are used for indirect objects?Can “du tout” be used positively?
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I know the en vs y question is frequently asked but I still don't get it at all...
I thought en would always be used to prevent repeating an "object" which represents a location.
Par exemple:
Donnez-moi une suite au Ritz — je n'en veux pas.
And I thought y was always used for locations.
Par exemple:
J'étais à Paris hier et je veux y aller demain encore une fois.
But now I've heard Indila singing in her song:
Laissez-moi arriver, laissez-moi y croire....
And I cannot really figure out why is y used here instead of en.
Can anybody explain this to me?
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I know the en vs y question is frequently asked but I still don't get it at all...
I thought en would always be used to prevent repeating an "object" which represents a location.
Par exemple:
Donnez-moi une suite au Ritz — je n'en veux pas.
And I thought y was always used for locations.
Par exemple:
J'étais à Paris hier et je veux y aller demain encore une fois.
But now I've heard Indila singing in her song:
Laissez-moi arriver, laissez-moi y croire....
And I cannot really figure out why is y used here instead of en.
Can anybody explain this to me?
grammaire pronoms compléments
edited 2 days ago
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For a native French speaker (like me), laissez-moi y croire is the only correct form I can think of. I’m unable to really explain why since it’s so natural. On the other hand, the misusage of ‘y’ is real in some regions, specially in Lyon where it’s overused.
– Xvolks
Jun 30 at 12:51
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Does french.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/… answer your question?
– Gilles♦
Jun 30 at 13:41
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I know the en vs y question is frequently asked but I still don't get it at all...
I thought en would always be used to prevent repeating an "object" which represents a location.
Par exemple:
Donnez-moi une suite au Ritz — je n'en veux pas.
And I thought y was always used for locations.
Par exemple:
J'étais à Paris hier et je veux y aller demain encore une fois.
But now I've heard Indila singing in her song:
Laissez-moi arriver, laissez-moi y croire....
And I cannot really figure out why is y used here instead of en.
Can anybody explain this to me?
grammaire pronoms compléments
edited 2 days ago
Stéphane Gimenez♦
26.1k12 gold badges57 silver badges132 bronze badges
asked Jun 30 at 12:32
messerbillmesserbill
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I know the en vs y question is frequently asked but I still don't get it at all...
I thought en would always be used to prevent repeating an "object" which represents a location.
Par exemple:
Donnez-moi une suite au Ritz — je n'en veux pas.
And I thought y was always used for locations.
Par exemple:
J'étais à Paris hier et je veux y aller demain encore une fois.
But now I've heard Indila singing in her song:
Laissez-moi arriver, laissez-moi y croire....
And I cannot really figure out why is y used here instead of en.
Can anybody explain this to me?
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For a native French speaker (like me), laissez-moi y croire is the only correct form I can think of. I’m unable to really explain why since it’s so natural. On the other hand, the misusage of ‘y’ is real in some regions, specially in Lyon where it’s overused.
– Xvolks
Jun 30 at 12:51
1
Does french.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/… answer your question?
– Gilles♦
Jun 30 at 13:41
add a comment |
2
For a native French speaker (like me), laissez-moi y croire is the only correct form I can think of. I’m unable to really explain why since it’s so natural. On the other hand, the misusage of ‘y’ is real in some regions, specially in Lyon where it’s overused.
– Xvolks
Jun 30 at 12:51
1
Does french.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/… answer your question?
– Gilles♦
Jun 30 at 13:41
2
2
For a native French speaker (like me), laissez-moi y croire is the only correct form I can think of. I’m unable to really explain why since it’s so natural. On the other hand, the misusage of ‘y’ is real in some regions, specially in Lyon where it’s overused.
– Xvolks
Jun 30 at 12:51
For a native French speaker (like me), laissez-moi y croire is the only correct form I can think of. I’m unable to really explain why since it’s so natural. On the other hand, the misusage of ‘y’ is real in some regions, specially in Lyon where it’s overused.
– Xvolks
Jun 30 at 12:51
1
1
Does french.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/… answer your question?
– Gilles♦
Jun 30 at 13:41
Does french.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/… answer your question?
– Gilles♦
Jun 30 at 13:41
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The pronoun y replaces a complement representing something inanimate introduced by à.
Like your example shows (je crois à ça : j'y crois), it is not limited to locations.
Je réponds à la question : j'y réponds
answered Jun 30 at 13:24
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To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi unàmais ici elle a ditje n'en veux pas
– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
3
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
1
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
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@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
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The pronoun y replaces a complement representing something inanimate introduced by à.
Like your example shows (je crois à ça : j'y crois), it is not limited to locations.
Je réponds à la question : j'y réponds
answered Jun 30 at 13:24
jlliagrejlliagre
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To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi unàmais ici elle a ditje n'en veux pas
– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
3
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
1
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
1
@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
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The pronoun y replaces a complement representing something inanimate introduced by à.
Like your example shows (je crois à ça : j'y crois), it is not limited to locations.
Je réponds à la question : j'y réponds
answered Jun 30 at 13:24
jlliagrejlliagre
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To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi unàmais ici elle a ditje n'en veux pas
– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
3
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
1
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
1
@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
|
show 4 more comments
The pronoun y replaces a complement representing something inanimate introduced by à.
Like your example shows (je crois à ça : j'y crois), it is not limited to locations.
Je réponds à la question : j'y réponds
answered Jun 30 at 13:24
jlliagrejlliagre
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The pronoun y replaces a complement representing something inanimate introduced by à.
Like your example shows (je crois à ça : j'y crois), it is not limited to locations.
Je réponds à la question : j'y réponds
answered Jun 30 at 13:24
jlliagrejlliagre
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answered Jun 30 at 13:24
jlliagrejlliagre
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answered Jun 30 at 13:24
jlliagrejlliagre
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answered Jun 30 at 13:24
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To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi unàmais ici elle a ditje n'en veux pas
– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
3
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
1
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
1
@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
|
show 4 more comments
3
To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi unàmais ici elle a ditje n'en veux pas
– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
3
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
1
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
1
@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
3
3
To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
To build this out a little more, we might say: en replaces any complement introduced with de, of any kind whatsoever. y replaces (a) some inanimate complements introduced by à and (b) location complements introduced by à, en, dans (if you can think of any others, all the better)
– Luke Sawczak
Jun 30 at 13:28
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi un
à mais ici elle a dit je n'en veux pas– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
thanks for your answer! But "une suite au ritz" - c'est aussi un
à mais ici elle a dit je n'en veux pas– messerbill
Jun 30 at 14:43
3
3
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
Je ne veux pas d 'une suite au Ritz !
– jlliagre
Jun 30 at 14:46
1
1
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
@LukeSawczak Any locative complement can be pronominalised by y, the preposition used doesn't matter much so long as it's not de. Je me suis assis sur le banc : je m'y suis assis, j'ai réservé une chambre hors de la ville : j'y ai réservé une chambre. Of course, other options are preferred to this locative y in spoken French, but in the formal language, it can and does refer to every kind of locative complement
– Eau qui dort
Jun 30 at 19:32
1
1
@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
@jlliagre > It's not a dialog, that's the first sentence of the song "Je veux", by Zaz
– Laurent S.
Jul 1 at 10:19
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For a native French speaker (like me), laissez-moi y croire is the only correct form I can think of. I’m unable to really explain why since it’s so natural. On the other hand, the misusage of ‘y’ is real in some regions, specially in Lyon where it’s overused.
– Xvolks
Jun 30 at 12:51
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Does french.stackexchange.com/questions/16893/… answer your question?
– Gilles♦
Jun 30 at 13:41