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Can one say [ゲームを遊ぶ ]?
Making sense of transitive usage of 行く and 来る - 「を行く」 and 「を来る」How do you express that you are playing a game?Is there a difference between 終わりたい and 終わってほしいSome people say X, some people say YIs な used for emphasis or negative imperative in this sentence?Can one say なそうです instead of だそうです when expressing hearsay?Word choice for iteration and repetitive processing in computer scienceHow do you say something like “trapped rabbit” in JapaneseClarification on personification in JapaneseWhich would be the better translation for “Even though you're X, you're still Y?”
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So I know that commonly people say 「ゲームをする」or 「NOUNで遊ぶ」 yet on the Japanese playstation website, I see 「ゲームを遊ぶ」written, even though the verb is intransitive. Are they both correct or is it sorta like an Incorrect usage but commonly understood, like some english phrases?
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So I know that commonly people say 「ゲームをする」or 「NOUNで遊ぶ」 yet on the Japanese playstation website, I see 「ゲームを遊ぶ」written, even though the verb is intransitive. Are they both correct or is it sorta like an Incorrect usage but commonly understood, like some english phrases?
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Related: How do you express that you are playing a game?
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:55
How would an intransitive verb take an object, though? Is it just an exception?
– GlimGlamGloom
Aug 15 at 4:57
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Yes, that's the point of your question, and the link does not answer that part. For now, I would say 遊ぶ also has a transitive usage.
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:59
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So I know that commonly people say 「ゲームをする」or 「NOUNで遊ぶ」 yet on the Japanese playstation website, I see 「ゲームを遊ぶ」written, even though the verb is intransitive. Are they both correct or is it sorta like an Incorrect usage but commonly understood, like some english phrases?
grammar word-choice
asked Aug 15 at 4:42
GlimGlamGloomGlimGlamGloom
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So I know that commonly people say 「ゲームをする」or 「NOUNで遊ぶ」 yet on the Japanese playstation website, I see 「ゲームを遊ぶ」written, even though the verb is intransitive. Are they both correct or is it sorta like an Incorrect usage but commonly understood, like some english phrases?
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Related: How do you express that you are playing a game?
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:55
How would an intransitive verb take an object, though? Is it just an exception?
– GlimGlamGloom
Aug 15 at 4:57
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Yes, that's the point of your question, and the link does not answer that part. For now, I would say 遊ぶ also has a transitive usage.
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:59
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Related: How do you express that you are playing a game?
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:55
How would an intransitive verb take an object, though? Is it just an exception?
– GlimGlamGloom
Aug 15 at 4:57
1
Yes, that's the point of your question, and the link does not answer that part. For now, I would say 遊ぶ also has a transitive usage.
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:59
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Related: How do you express that you are playing a game?
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:55
Related: How do you express that you are playing a game?
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:55
How would an intransitive verb take an object, though? Is it just an exception?
– GlimGlamGloom
Aug 15 at 4:57
How would an intransitive verb take an object, though? Is it just an exception?
– GlimGlamGloom
Aug 15 at 4:57
1
1
Yes, that's the point of your question, and the link does not answer that part. For now, I would say 遊ぶ also has a transitive usage.
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:59
Yes, that's the point of your question, and the link does not answer that part. For now, I would say 遊ぶ also has a transitive usage.
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:59
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I think ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ are both perfectly correct. Although some dictionaries say 遊ぶ is only intransitive, you can find some transitive usages of 遊ぶ on BCCWJ, including:
- ゲームを遊ぶ
- マリオを遊ぶ
- 月を愛で歌を詠み、御座の間などでも花を遊ぶ
- 何を遊ぶかということではなくて、どのように遊ぶか
- 渋谷の夜を遊ぶ
- ホノルルを遊ぶ (although this を may be taken as a location marker)
The difference is usually subtle and unimportant, but ゲームを遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is the main purpose, whereas ゲームで遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is just a method to have fun. The following article intentionally distinguishes ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ:
- ｢ニンテンドースイッチ｣レビュー：”ゲームを遊ぶ”と”ゲームで遊ぶ”。2種類の遊び方をスイッチできるゲームハードの究極進化系
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I think ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ are both perfectly correct. Although some dictionaries say 遊ぶ is only intransitive, you can find some transitive usages of 遊ぶ on BCCWJ, including:
- ゲームを遊ぶ
- マリオを遊ぶ
- 月を愛で歌を詠み、御座の間などでも花を遊ぶ
- 何を遊ぶかということではなくて、どのように遊ぶか
- 渋谷の夜を遊ぶ
- ホノルルを遊ぶ (although this を may be taken as a location marker)
The difference is usually subtle and unimportant, but ゲームを遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is the main purpose, whereas ゲームで遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is just a method to have fun. The following article intentionally distinguishes ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ:
- ｢ニンテンドースイッチ｣レビュー：”ゲームを遊ぶ”と”ゲームで遊ぶ”。2種類の遊び方をスイッチできるゲームハードの究極進化系
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I think ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ are both perfectly correct. Although some dictionaries say 遊ぶ is only intransitive, you can find some transitive usages of 遊ぶ on BCCWJ, including:
- ゲームを遊ぶ
- マリオを遊ぶ
- 月を愛で歌を詠み、御座の間などでも花を遊ぶ
- 何を遊ぶかということではなくて、どのように遊ぶか
- 渋谷の夜を遊ぶ
- ホノルルを遊ぶ (although this を may be taken as a location marker)
The difference is usually subtle and unimportant, but ゲームを遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is the main purpose, whereas ゲームで遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is just a method to have fun. The following article intentionally distinguishes ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ:
- ｢ニンテンドースイッチ｣レビュー：”ゲームを遊ぶ”と”ゲームで遊ぶ”。2種類の遊び方をスイッチできるゲームハードの究極進化系
answered Aug 15 at 5:14
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I think ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ are both perfectly correct. Although some dictionaries say 遊ぶ is only intransitive, you can find some transitive usages of 遊ぶ on BCCWJ, including:
- ゲームを遊ぶ
- マリオを遊ぶ
- 月を愛で歌を詠み、御座の間などでも花を遊ぶ
- 何を遊ぶかということではなくて、どのように遊ぶか
- 渋谷の夜を遊ぶ
- ホノルルを遊ぶ (although this を may be taken as a location marker)
The difference is usually subtle and unimportant, but ゲームを遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is the main purpose, whereas ゲームで遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is just a method to have fun. The following article intentionally distinguishes ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ:
- ｢ニンテンドースイッチ｣レビュー：”ゲームを遊ぶ”と”ゲームで遊ぶ”。2種類の遊び方をスイッチできるゲームハードの究極進化系
answered Aug 15 at 5:14
narutonaruto
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I think ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ are both perfectly correct. Although some dictionaries say 遊ぶ is only intransitive, you can find some transitive usages of 遊ぶ on BCCWJ, including:
- ゲームを遊ぶ
- マリオを遊ぶ
- 月を愛で歌を詠み、御座の間などでも花を遊ぶ
- 何を遊ぶかということではなくて、どのように遊ぶか
- 渋谷の夜を遊ぶ
- ホノルルを遊ぶ (although this を may be taken as a location marker)
The difference is usually subtle and unimportant, but ゲームを遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is the main purpose, whereas ゲームで遊ぶ sounds like ゲーム is just a method to have fun. The following article intentionally distinguishes ゲームを遊ぶ and ゲームで遊ぶ:
- ｢ニンテンドースイッチ｣レビュー：”ゲームを遊ぶ”と”ゲームで遊ぶ”。2種類の遊び方をスイッチできるゲームハードの究極進化系
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Related: How do you express that you are playing a game?
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:55
How would an intransitive verb take an object, though? Is it just an exception?
– GlimGlamGloom
Aug 15 at 4:57
1
Yes, that's the point of your question, and the link does not answer that part. For now, I would say 遊ぶ also has a transitive usage.
– naruto
Aug 15 at 4:59