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Swimming is not flying

As far as I am aware, flying is never defined as a game term, which means the word takes its normal English meaning: moving through the air under one's own power. I don't think most people would describe underwater movement as flying (except metaphorically).

You can probably "fly" at half speed underwater

The rules for swimming state that:

Each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain) when you’re climbing, swimming, or crawling. You ignore this extra cost if you have a climbing speed and use it to climb, or a swimming speed and use it to swim.

It doesn't say you need to use your walking speed, it just says that you need to use twice as much movement as normal. Hence, you could probably use the 60 feet of flight-based movement from the Fly spell to travel 30 feet per round underwater, which is still an improvement over the 15 feet per round that you'd get with the typical walking speed of 30. (But you should ask your DM how this will work in their game if you're making a plan that relies on it.)

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  Even if this answer does not answer the question of "flying underwater" per say, I still think it is the best answer that can be provided considering RAW. RAI I would personally allow a flying character diving into water to have a bonus from his momentum on the round in which he enters the water ... but unless he starts swimming (or climbing, lol) underwater, I'd rule that he can move at half his speed as the rules states. Flying is not swimming and a GM has to keep the flavor of water based characters alive in allowing them to be better underwater.
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  So if something were to prevent your ability to swim (using magical means, not physical restriction), would you still be able to "fly" underwater at a speed of 30 feet?
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  @Parrotmaster: Do you have an example of magical restrictions specifically on swimming that don't apply to flying?
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  @ShadowRanger Anything that damages the PC's ability to swim (damage fins) or legs. I assume you don't need legs to fly?
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  @Parrotmaster: True, but those aren't magical restrictions, those are just physical impediments of one form or another. If you're flying with wings, the same restrictions would apply; if you're flying because the rules of physics gave up (magic), they wouldn't.
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Swimming is not flying

As far as I am aware, flying is never defined as a game term, which means the word takes its normal English meaning: moving through the air under one's own power. I don't think most people would describe underwater movement as flying (except metaphorically).

You can probably "fly" at half speed underwater

The rules for swimming state that:

Each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain) when you’re climbing, swimming, or crawling. You ignore this extra cost if you have a climbing speed and use it to climb, or a swimming speed and use it to swim.

It doesn't say you need to use your walking speed, it just says that you need to use twice as much movement as normal. Hence, you could probably use the 60 feet of flight-based movement from the Fly spell to travel 30 feet per round underwater, which is still an improvement over the 15 feet per round that you'd get with the typical walking speed of 30. (But you should ask your DM how this will work in their game if you're making a plan that relies on it.)

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  Even if this answer does not answer the question of "flying underwater" per say, I still think it is the best answer that can be provided considering RAW. RAI I would personally allow a flying character diving into water to have a bonus from his momentum on the round in which he enters the water ... but unless he starts swimming (or climbing, lol) underwater, I'd rule that he can move at half his speed as the rules states. Flying is not swimming and a GM has to keep the flavor of water based characters alive in allowing them to be better underwater.
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  So if something were to prevent your ability to swim (using magical means, not physical restriction), would you still be able to "fly" underwater at a speed of 30 feet?
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  @Parrotmaster: Do you have an example of magical restrictions specifically on swimming that don't apply to flying?
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  @ShadowRanger Anything that damages the PC's ability to swim (damage fins) or legs. I assume you don't need legs to fly?
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  @Parrotmaster: True, but those aren't magical restrictions, those are just physical impediments of one form or another. If you're flying with wings, the same restrictions would apply; if you're flying because the rules of physics gave up (magic), they wouldn't.
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Swimming is not flying

As far as I am aware, flying is never defined as a game term, which means the word takes its normal English meaning: moving through the air under one's own power. I don't think most people would describe underwater movement as flying (except metaphorically).

You can probably "fly" at half speed underwater

The rules for swimming state that:

Each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain) when you’re climbing, swimming, or crawling. You ignore this extra cost if you have a climbing speed and use it to climb, or a swimming speed and use it to swim.

It doesn't say you need to use your walking speed, it just says that you need to use twice as much movement as normal. Hence, you could probably use the 60 feet of flight-based movement from the Fly spell to travel 30 feet per round underwater, which is still an improvement over the 15 feet per round that you'd get with the typical walking speed of 30. (But you should ask your DM how this will work in their game if you're making a plan that relies on it.)

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  Even if this answer does not answer the question of "flying underwater" per say, I still think it is the best answer that can be provided considering RAW. RAI I would personally allow a flying character diving into water to have a bonus from his momentum on the round in which he enters the water ... but unless he starts swimming (or climbing, lol) underwater, I'd rule that he can move at half his speed as the rules states. Flying is not swimming and a GM has to keep the flavor of water based characters alive in allowing them to be better underwater.
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  – Catar4
  Aug 9 at 3:28
  

  
  
  
  


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  So if something were to prevent your ability to swim (using magical means, not physical restriction), would you still be able to "fly" underwater at a speed of 30 feet?
  $endgroup$
  – Parrotmaster
  Aug 9 at 11:50
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Parrotmaster: Do you have an example of magical restrictions specifically on swimming that don't apply to flying?
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  – ShadowRanger
  Aug 9 at 14:11
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  @ShadowRanger Anything that damages the PC's ability to swim (damage fins) or legs. I assume you don't need legs to fly?
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  – Parrotmaster
  Aug 9 at 14:40
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Parrotmaster: True, but those aren't magical restrictions, those are just physical impediments of one form or another. If you're flying with wings, the same restrictions would apply; if you're flying because the rules of physics gave up (magic), they wouldn't.
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  – ShadowRanger
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Swimming is not flying

As far as I am aware, flying is never defined as a game term, which means the word takes its normal English meaning: moving through the air under one's own power. I don't think most people would describe underwater movement as flying (except metaphorically).

You can probably "fly" at half speed underwater

The rules for swimming state that:

Each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain) when you’re climbing, swimming, or crawling. You ignore this extra cost if you have a climbing speed and use it to climb, or a swimming speed and use it to swim.

It doesn't say you need to use your walking speed, it just says that you need to use twice as much movement as normal. Hence, you could probably use the 60 feet of flight-based movement from the Fly spell to travel 30 feet per round underwater, which is still an improvement over the 15 feet per round that you'd get with the typical walking speed of 30. (But you should ask your DM how this will work in their game if you're making a plan that relies on it.)

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