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Is a reptile with diamond scales possible?
What size would a diamond made from a human be?Is diamond armor better than traditional armor?Is a diamond sword feasible?Could a living creature produce graphene?What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?How would tattoos fare on reptilian scales?Are diamond berries possible?How plausible is my monster?Would a realistic dragon shed their skin/scales?Hydras as parasitic-mating, polyandrous amphibians?What Would a Reptile with Facial Muscles look like?How Would a Reptile with facial muscles be explained?Fart & Furious: flatulence as acceleration booster possible?Civilization on a diamond exoplanet?How can a demonic viral infection spread throughout the body without being noticed?
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I thought of a concept for a dragon or similarly gigantic reptile with a special adaptation, in which they’re born with scales made almost entirely of carbon. Then, over an incredibly long life cycle, the reptile would shed these scales, and replace them with diamond scales that they had formed inside their body using carbon. I formed this concept off the fact that life on earth is carbon-based.
So, my question is, would a large organism be able to produce enough heat & pressure inside its body to make diamonds?
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I thought of a concept for a dragon or similarly gigantic reptile with a special adaptation, in which they’re born with scales made almost entirely of carbon. Then, over an incredibly long life cycle, the reptile would shed these scales, and replace them with diamond scales that they had formed inside their body using carbon. I formed this concept off the fact that life on earth is carbon-based.
So, my question is, would a large organism be able to produce enough heat & pressure inside its body to make diamonds?
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Can you please define how long you would like for this to take? What else is the dragon made of? For example, what is the carbon being crushed between to provide the pressure?
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– Muuski
May 17 at 16:40
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@Muuski I’m thinking that the dragon takes around fifty years to reach full sexual maturity. As for what it’s made of, it’s more or less a normal reptile, albeit very large. So, maybe some sort of specialized system of muscular chambers? I’m not sure, so I’m looking for input on what systems could achieve this.
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Possible duplicate of What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?
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– JBH
May 17 at 19:37
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@JBH I've given the answer "maybe yes", so I think "no" is an opinion, not a proven truth, and certainly nothing in Green's answer gives "no" to this question. If you feel you know the answer to a question, merging it with an unrelated question is rarely going to be the right way to write an answer to argue your point :D
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– Dewi Morgan
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This question is not a duplicate. It is closely related to this question though: Could a living creature produce graphene? They differ only in which allotrope of carbon they want to produce but the answers are basically the same. Living organisms don't need high pressure or high temperature to do chemistry because they have enzymes.
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I thought of a concept for a dragon or similarly gigantic reptile with a special adaptation, in which they’re born with scales made almost entirely of carbon. Then, over an incredibly long life cycle, the reptile would shed these scales, and replace them with diamond scales that they had formed inside their body using carbon. I formed this concept off the fact that life on earth is carbon-based.
So, my question is, would a large organism be able to produce enough heat & pressure inside its body to make diamonds?
biology geology dragons bio-mechanics reptiles
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I thought of a concept for a dragon or similarly gigantic reptile with a special adaptation, in which they’re born with scales made almost entirely of carbon. Then, over an incredibly long life cycle, the reptile would shed these scales, and replace them with diamond scales that they had formed inside their body using carbon. I formed this concept off the fact that life on earth is carbon-based.
So, my question is, would a large organism be able to produce enough heat & pressure inside its body to make diamonds?
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Can you please define how long you would like for this to take? What else is the dragon made of? For example, what is the carbon being crushed between to provide the pressure?
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– Muuski
May 17 at 16:40
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@Muuski I’m thinking that the dragon takes around fifty years to reach full sexual maturity. As for what it’s made of, it’s more or less a normal reptile, albeit very large. So, maybe some sort of specialized system of muscular chambers? I’m not sure, so I’m looking for input on what systems could achieve this.
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– Cobbington
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Possible duplicate of What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?
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– JBH
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@JBH I've given the answer "maybe yes", so I think "no" is an opinion, not a proven truth, and certainly nothing in Green's answer gives "no" to this question. If you feel you know the answer to a question, merging it with an unrelated question is rarely going to be the right way to write an answer to argue your point :D
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– Dewi Morgan
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This question is not a duplicate. It is closely related to this question though: Could a living creature produce graphene? They differ only in which allotrope of carbon they want to produce but the answers are basically the same. Living organisms don't need high pressure or high temperature to do chemistry because they have enzymes.
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Can you please define how long you would like for this to take? What else is the dragon made of? For example, what is the carbon being crushed between to provide the pressure?
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– Muuski
May 17 at 16:40
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@Muuski I’m thinking that the dragon takes around fifty years to reach full sexual maturity. As for what it’s made of, it’s more or less a normal reptile, albeit very large. So, maybe some sort of specialized system of muscular chambers? I’m not sure, so I’m looking for input on what systems could achieve this.
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– Cobbington
May 17 at 18:45
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Possible duplicate of What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?
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– JBH
May 17 at 19:37
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@JBH I've given the answer "maybe yes", so I think "no" is an opinion, not a proven truth, and certainly nothing in Green's answer gives "no" to this question. If you feel you know the answer to a question, merging it with an unrelated question is rarely going to be the right way to write an answer to argue your point :D
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– Dewi Morgan
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This question is not a duplicate. It is closely related to this question though: Could a living creature produce graphene? They differ only in which allotrope of carbon they want to produce but the answers are basically the same. Living organisms don't need high pressure or high temperature to do chemistry because they have enzymes.
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– Mike Nichols
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Can you please define how long you would like for this to take? What else is the dragon made of? For example, what is the carbon being crushed between to provide the pressure?
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– Muuski
May 17 at 16:40
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Can you please define how long you would like for this to take? What else is the dragon made of? For example, what is the carbon being crushed between to provide the pressure?
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– Muuski
May 17 at 16:40
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@Muuski I’m thinking that the dragon takes around fifty years to reach full sexual maturity. As for what it’s made of, it’s more or less a normal reptile, albeit very large. So, maybe some sort of specialized system of muscular chambers? I’m not sure, so I’m looking for input on what systems could achieve this.
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– Cobbington
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@Muuski I’m thinking that the dragon takes around fifty years to reach full sexual maturity. As for what it’s made of, it’s more or less a normal reptile, albeit very large. So, maybe some sort of specialized system of muscular chambers? I’m not sure, so I’m looking for input on what systems could achieve this.
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– Cobbington
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Possible duplicate of What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?
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– JBH
May 17 at 19:37
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Possible duplicate of What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?
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– JBH
May 17 at 19:37
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@JBH I've given the answer "maybe yes", so I think "no" is an opinion, not a proven truth, and certainly nothing in Green's answer gives "no" to this question. If you feel you know the answer to a question, merging it with an unrelated question is rarely going to be the right way to write an answer to argue your point :D
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– Dewi Morgan
May 17 at 19:51
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@JBH I've given the answer "maybe yes", so I think "no" is an opinion, not a proven truth, and certainly nothing in Green's answer gives "no" to this question. If you feel you know the answer to a question, merging it with an unrelated question is rarely going to be the right way to write an answer to argue your point :D
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– Dewi Morgan
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This question is not a duplicate. It is closely related to this question though: Could a living creature produce graphene? They differ only in which allotrope of carbon they want to produce but the answers are basically the same. Living organisms don't need high pressure or high temperature to do chemistry because they have enzymes.
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– Mike Nichols
May 17 at 20:01
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This question is not a duplicate. It is closely related to this question though: Could a living creature produce graphene? They differ only in which allotrope of carbon they want to produce but the answers are basically the same. Living organisms don't need high pressure or high temperature to do chemistry because they have enzymes.
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Is the story strictly limited to diamond? If not you may consider silicon carbide (carborundum or moissanite). It can be synthesized at dragon-achievable temperature of 1100K. It is somewhat less hard than diamond but it's not flammable and tougher.
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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Maybe yes, but not through that mechanism.
You don't necessarily need heat and pressure to make diamonds, and those are not usually things that we biological squidgey things use to grow things like horns, nails and scales.
I think there are two ways currently used for creating artificial diamonds on an industrial scale, one being the one you mention (High-pressure, high-temperature synthetic diamonds).
But the more interesting one is chemical vapor deposition. Now, this takes place in a vacuum and blahblah. So it, too, is not really a very good way of growing scales.
But at its root, it's basically just accretion. Which is how most biological stuff grows.
Is it feasible that somewhere in the universe, some carbon-based life-form has developed a way to perfectly accrete carbon atoms onto each other, inside its body? Sure. Why not?
Is it likely, or advantageous? No, it seems like it'd be a lot of work for "diamond perfection", when "good enough" scales are way easier to grow, and tougher (less brittle).
As protective scales, diamonds would leave a lot to be desired, though. They fracture rather than flexing. When they break, they can split or shatter, rather than merely bending, wearing, or chipping. So that would need to be addressed, whether with logic, handwaving, or lampshading. See Is diamond armor better than traditional armor? and possibly Is a diamond sword feasible? for more info on that part, though.
Another possible limit is the availability of carbon in the body, which is covered here: What size would a diamond made from a human be?
Another option, other than growing the scales through accretion, is something like caddis-fly larvae, where the dragon clads itself in diamond for protection or mating. This would require an environment where diamonds are very common, however, so this armor would have little monetary value.
UNLESS... the dragons dived for them in the cones of volcanos or something, where normal humans could not go.
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Since Chemistry is a marvelous science, I think it explainable, from a story telling stand point, for a dragon to grow diamond scales.
In chemistry, a catalyst makes reactions happen at lower energy levels and is not used up by the reaction. And, in semiconductor growth systems, crystals are grown using complex molecules called metal organics. And, since many crystals grown for semiconductor wafers share the same Zincblende crystal structure as diamond. It is reasonable to speculate that a fantastic creature could convert raw carbon into one of carbon’s crystalline forms using a complex organic chemistry processes and catalytic chemistry.
Is there an similar technology today that grows diamond crystals at atmospheric pressures and dragon temperatures, I don’t know. But, is it conceivable that we will figure it out? Yes, I think it is.
And, the scales need not be solid, but could incorporate a structure that makes the scale more resilient and less susceptible to shock. Like the scales could be honeycombed so when they are hit, the scales flex into the their internal void rather than cracking and shearing.
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An organism could hypothetically gain diamond scales by consuming extant diamonds and incorporating them into its body. Such a creature might require an unorthodox method of energy generation because — depending on the environment and scarcity of diamond — it could have to spend a significant portion of its time foraging for diamonds in order to accumulate a meaningful quantity. Gaining energy from minerals encountered while foraging seems an interesting possibility.
See nudibranchs for an example of a real Earth organism that consumes other creatures which contain toxic stinging cells. After consumption it moves those cells through its specialized digestive system into its extremities where it then uses those "stolen" cells for its own defense.
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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Is the story strictly limited to diamond? If not you may consider silicon carbide (carborundum or moissanite). It can be synthesized at dragon-achievable temperature of 1100K. It is somewhat less hard than diamond but it's not flammable and tougher.
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:01
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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Is the story strictly limited to diamond? If not you may consider silicon carbide (carborundum or moissanite). It can be synthesized at dragon-achievable temperature of 1100K. It is somewhat less hard than diamond but it's not flammable and tougher.
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:01
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:03
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Is the story strictly limited to diamond? If not you may consider silicon carbide (carborundum or moissanite). It can be synthesized at dragon-achievable temperature of 1100K. It is somewhat less hard than diamond but it's not flammable and tougher.
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Is the story strictly limited to diamond? If not you may consider silicon carbide (carborundum or moissanite). It can be synthesized at dragon-achievable temperature of 1100K. It is somewhat less hard than diamond but it's not flammable and tougher.
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:01
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:01
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:03
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:01
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Yeah, silicon carbide was what I thought as well. It has actually been used as armor (and quick google says is still being sold as armor) so there should be no issues with it being practical as with diamond armor.
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:01
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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– Ville Niemi
May 17 at 21:03
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LOL. Looked again and the brand name is actually "dragon skin".
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Maybe yes, but not through that mechanism.
You don't necessarily need heat and pressure to make diamonds, and those are not usually things that we biological squidgey things use to grow things like horns, nails and scales.
I think there are two ways currently used for creating artificial diamonds on an industrial scale, one being the one you mention (High-pressure, high-temperature synthetic diamonds).
But the more interesting one is chemical vapor deposition. Now, this takes place in a vacuum and blahblah. So it, too, is not really a very good way of growing scales.
But at its root, it's basically just accretion. Which is how most biological stuff grows.
Is it feasible that somewhere in the universe, some carbon-based life-form has developed a way to perfectly accrete carbon atoms onto each other, inside its body? Sure. Why not?
Is it likely, or advantageous? No, it seems like it'd be a lot of work for "diamond perfection", when "good enough" scales are way easier to grow, and tougher (less brittle).
As protective scales, diamonds would leave a lot to be desired, though. They fracture rather than flexing. When they break, they can split or shatter, rather than merely bending, wearing, or chipping. So that would need to be addressed, whether with logic, handwaving, or lampshading. See Is diamond armor better than traditional armor? and possibly Is a diamond sword feasible? for more info on that part, though.
Another possible limit is the availability of carbon in the body, which is covered here: What size would a diamond made from a human be?
Another option, other than growing the scales through accretion, is something like caddis-fly larvae, where the dragon clads itself in diamond for protection or mating. This would require an environment where diamonds are very common, however, so this armor would have little monetary value.
UNLESS... the dragons dived for them in the cones of volcanos or something, where normal humans could not go.
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Maybe yes, but not through that mechanism.
You don't necessarily need heat and pressure to make diamonds, and those are not usually things that we biological squidgey things use to grow things like horns, nails and scales.
I think there are two ways currently used for creating artificial diamonds on an industrial scale, one being the one you mention (High-pressure, high-temperature synthetic diamonds).
But the more interesting one is chemical vapor deposition. Now, this takes place in a vacuum and blahblah. So it, too, is not really a very good way of growing scales.
But at its root, it's basically just accretion. Which is how most biological stuff grows.
Is it feasible that somewhere in the universe, some carbon-based life-form has developed a way to perfectly accrete carbon atoms onto each other, inside its body? Sure. Why not?
Is it likely, or advantageous? No, it seems like it'd be a lot of work for "diamond perfection", when "good enough" scales are way easier to grow, and tougher (less brittle).
As protective scales, diamonds would leave a lot to be desired, though. They fracture rather than flexing. When they break, they can split or shatter, rather than merely bending, wearing, or chipping. So that would need to be addressed, whether with logic, handwaving, or lampshading. See Is diamond armor better than traditional armor? and possibly Is a diamond sword feasible? for more info on that part, though.
Another possible limit is the availability of carbon in the body, which is covered here: What size would a diamond made from a human be?
Another option, other than growing the scales through accretion, is something like caddis-fly larvae, where the dragon clads itself in diamond for protection or mating. This would require an environment where diamonds are very common, however, so this armor would have little monetary value.
UNLESS... the dragons dived for them in the cones of volcanos or something, where normal humans could not go.
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Maybe yes, but not through that mechanism.
You don't necessarily need heat and pressure to make diamonds, and those are not usually things that we biological squidgey things use to grow things like horns, nails and scales.
I think there are two ways currently used for creating artificial diamonds on an industrial scale, one being the one you mention (High-pressure, high-temperature synthetic diamonds).
But the more interesting one is chemical vapor deposition. Now, this takes place in a vacuum and blahblah. So it, too, is not really a very good way of growing scales.
But at its root, it's basically just accretion. Which is how most biological stuff grows.
Is it feasible that somewhere in the universe, some carbon-based life-form has developed a way to perfectly accrete carbon atoms onto each other, inside its body? Sure. Why not?
Is it likely, or advantageous? No, it seems like it'd be a lot of work for "diamond perfection", when "good enough" scales are way easier to grow, and tougher (less brittle).
As protective scales, diamonds would leave a lot to be desired, though. They fracture rather than flexing. When they break, they can split or shatter, rather than merely bending, wearing, or chipping. So that would need to be addressed, whether with logic, handwaving, or lampshading. See Is diamond armor better than traditional armor? and possibly Is a diamond sword feasible? for more info on that part, though.
Another possible limit is the availability of carbon in the body, which is covered here: What size would a diamond made from a human be?
Another option, other than growing the scales through accretion, is something like caddis-fly larvae, where the dragon clads itself in diamond for protection or mating. This would require an environment where diamonds are very common, however, so this armor would have little monetary value.
UNLESS... the dragons dived for them in the cones of volcanos or something, where normal humans could not go.
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Maybe yes, but not through that mechanism.
You don't necessarily need heat and pressure to make diamonds, and those are not usually things that we biological squidgey things use to grow things like horns, nails and scales.
I think there are two ways currently used for creating artificial diamonds on an industrial scale, one being the one you mention (High-pressure, high-temperature synthetic diamonds).
But the more interesting one is chemical vapor deposition. Now, this takes place in a vacuum and blahblah. So it, too, is not really a very good way of growing scales.
But at its root, it's basically just accretion. Which is how most biological stuff grows.
Is it feasible that somewhere in the universe, some carbon-based life-form has developed a way to perfectly accrete carbon atoms onto each other, inside its body? Sure. Why not?
Is it likely, or advantageous? No, it seems like it'd be a lot of work for "diamond perfection", when "good enough" scales are way easier to grow, and tougher (less brittle).
As protective scales, diamonds would leave a lot to be desired, though. They fracture rather than flexing. When they break, they can split or shatter, rather than merely bending, wearing, or chipping. So that would need to be addressed, whether with logic, handwaving, or lampshading. See Is diamond armor better than traditional armor? and possibly Is a diamond sword feasible? for more info on that part, though.
Another possible limit is the availability of carbon in the body, which is covered here: What size would a diamond made from a human be?
Another option, other than growing the scales through accretion, is something like caddis-fly larvae, where the dragon clads itself in diamond for protection or mating. This would require an environment where diamonds are very common, however, so this armor would have little monetary value.
UNLESS... the dragons dived for them in the cones of volcanos or something, where normal humans could not go.
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Since Chemistry is a marvelous science, I think it explainable, from a story telling stand point, for a dragon to grow diamond scales.
In chemistry, a catalyst makes reactions happen at lower energy levels and is not used up by the reaction. And, in semiconductor growth systems, crystals are grown using complex molecules called metal organics. And, since many crystals grown for semiconductor wafers share the same Zincblende crystal structure as diamond. It is reasonable to speculate that a fantastic creature could convert raw carbon into one of carbon’s crystalline forms using a complex organic chemistry processes and catalytic chemistry.
Is there an similar technology today that grows diamond crystals at atmospheric pressures and dragon temperatures, I don’t know. But, is it conceivable that we will figure it out? Yes, I think it is.
And, the scales need not be solid, but could incorporate a structure that makes the scale more resilient and less susceptible to shock. Like the scales could be honeycombed so when they are hit, the scales flex into the their internal void rather than cracking and shearing.
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Since Chemistry is a marvelous science, I think it explainable, from a story telling stand point, for a dragon to grow diamond scales.
In chemistry, a catalyst makes reactions happen at lower energy levels and is not used up by the reaction. And, in semiconductor growth systems, crystals are grown using complex molecules called metal organics. And, since many crystals grown for semiconductor wafers share the same Zincblende crystal structure as diamond. It is reasonable to speculate that a fantastic creature could convert raw carbon into one of carbon’s crystalline forms using a complex organic chemistry processes and catalytic chemistry.
Is there an similar technology today that grows diamond crystals at atmospheric pressures and dragon temperatures, I don’t know. But, is it conceivable that we will figure it out? Yes, I think it is.
And, the scales need not be solid, but could incorporate a structure that makes the scale more resilient and less susceptible to shock. Like the scales could be honeycombed so when they are hit, the scales flex into the their internal void rather than cracking and shearing.
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Since Chemistry is a marvelous science, I think it explainable, from a story telling stand point, for a dragon to grow diamond scales.
In chemistry, a catalyst makes reactions happen at lower energy levels and is not used up by the reaction. And, in semiconductor growth systems, crystals are grown using complex molecules called metal organics. And, since many crystals grown for semiconductor wafers share the same Zincblende crystal structure as diamond. It is reasonable to speculate that a fantastic creature could convert raw carbon into one of carbon’s crystalline forms using a complex organic chemistry processes and catalytic chemistry.
Is there an similar technology today that grows diamond crystals at atmospheric pressures and dragon temperatures, I don’t know. But, is it conceivable that we will figure it out? Yes, I think it is.
And, the scales need not be solid, but could incorporate a structure that makes the scale more resilient and less susceptible to shock. Like the scales could be honeycombed so when they are hit, the scales flex into the their internal void rather than cracking and shearing.
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Since Chemistry is a marvelous science, I think it explainable, from a story telling stand point, for a dragon to grow diamond scales.
In chemistry, a catalyst makes reactions happen at lower energy levels and is not used up by the reaction. And, in semiconductor growth systems, crystals are grown using complex molecules called metal organics. And, since many crystals grown for semiconductor wafers share the same Zincblende crystal structure as diamond. It is reasonable to speculate that a fantastic creature could convert raw carbon into one of carbon’s crystalline forms using a complex organic chemistry processes and catalytic chemistry.
Is there an similar technology today that grows diamond crystals at atmospheric pressures and dragon temperatures, I don’t know. But, is it conceivable that we will figure it out? Yes, I think it is.
And, the scales need not be solid, but could incorporate a structure that makes the scale more resilient and less susceptible to shock. Like the scales could be honeycombed so when they are hit, the scales flex into the their internal void rather than cracking and shearing.
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An organism could hypothetically gain diamond scales by consuming extant diamonds and incorporating them into its body. Such a creature might require an unorthodox method of energy generation because — depending on the environment and scarcity of diamond — it could have to spend a significant portion of its time foraging for diamonds in order to accumulate a meaningful quantity. Gaining energy from minerals encountered while foraging seems an interesting possibility.
See nudibranchs for an example of a real Earth organism that consumes other creatures which contain toxic stinging cells. After consumption it moves those cells through its specialized digestive system into its extremities where it then uses those "stolen" cells for its own defense.
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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An organism could hypothetically gain diamond scales by consuming extant diamonds and incorporating them into its body. Such a creature might require an unorthodox method of energy generation because — depending on the environment and scarcity of diamond — it could have to spend a significant portion of its time foraging for diamonds in order to accumulate a meaningful quantity. Gaining energy from minerals encountered while foraging seems an interesting possibility.
See nudibranchs for an example of a real Earth organism that consumes other creatures which contain toxic stinging cells. After consumption it moves those cells through its specialized digestive system into its extremities where it then uses those "stolen" cells for its own defense.
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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– Hoyle's ghost
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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– EDL
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An organism could hypothetically gain diamond scales by consuming extant diamonds and incorporating them into its body. Such a creature might require an unorthodox method of energy generation because — depending on the environment and scarcity of diamond — it could have to spend a significant portion of its time foraging for diamonds in order to accumulate a meaningful quantity. Gaining energy from minerals encountered while foraging seems an interesting possibility.
See nudibranchs for an example of a real Earth organism that consumes other creatures which contain toxic stinging cells. After consumption it moves those cells through its specialized digestive system into its extremities where it then uses those "stolen" cells for its own defense.
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An organism could hypothetically gain diamond scales by consuming extant diamonds and incorporating them into its body. Such a creature might require an unorthodox method of energy generation because — depending on the environment and scarcity of diamond — it could have to spend a significant portion of its time foraging for diamonds in order to accumulate a meaningful quantity. Gaining energy from minerals encountered while foraging seems an interesting possibility.
See nudibranchs for an example of a real Earth organism that consumes other creatures which contain toxic stinging cells. After consumption it moves those cells through its specialized digestive system into its extremities where it then uses those "stolen" cells for its own defense.
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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– Hoyle's ghost
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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– EDL
May 18 at 13:31
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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– Hoyle's ghost
May 18 at 9:44
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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– EDL
May 18 at 13:31
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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– Hoyle's ghost
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Welcome to the site Carl, when you have a few minutes, please take the tour and read up in our help center about how we work: How to Ask. Pretty good first post by the way. +1
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– Hoyle's ghost
May 18 at 9:44
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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– EDL
May 18 at 13:31
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Smaug of The Hobbit used something like this method. He supplemented his scales with diamonds from his hoard. I never thought he ate them but thought he stuck them to his hide.
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Can you please define how long you would like for this to take? What else is the dragon made of? For example, what is the carbon being crushed between to provide the pressure?
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@Muuski I’m thinking that the dragon takes around fifty years to reach full sexual maturity. As for what it’s made of, it’s more or less a normal reptile, albeit very large. So, maybe some sort of specialized system of muscular chambers? I’m not sure, so I’m looking for input on what systems could achieve this.
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Possible duplicate of What is the strongest glass that can be formed from nature?
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@JBH I've given the answer "maybe yes", so I think "no" is an opinion, not a proven truth, and certainly nothing in Green's answer gives "no" to this question. If you feel you know the answer to a question, merging it with an unrelated question is rarely going to be the right way to write an answer to argue your point :D
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This question is not a duplicate. It is closely related to this question though: Could a living creature produce graphene? They differ only in which allotrope of carbon they want to produce but the answers are basically the same. Living organisms don't need high pressure or high temperature to do chemistry because they have enzymes.
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– Mike Nichols
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