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“Quand même” to mean “anyway”
“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Does this mean “you wouldn’t understand, anyway”? If not, how can I best translate that? Can I even put “quand même” before “jamais,” or does it go after?
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“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Does this mean “you wouldn’t understand, anyway”? If not, how can I best translate that? Can I even put “quand même” before “jamais,” or does it go after?
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“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Does this mean “you wouldn’t understand, anyway”? If not, how can I best translate that? Can I even put “quand même” before “jamais,” or does it go after?
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“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Does this mean “you wouldn’t understand, anyway”? If not, how can I best translate that? Can I even put “quand même” before “jamais,” or does it go after?
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Not sure why other answers consider the conditional mood incorrect here but your sentence is just fine:
Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
Alternatives can be:
De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
Malgré tout, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
answered May 22 at 8:40
jlliagrejlliagre
69.3k450114
Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
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It is ok to put "quand même" before "jamais".
But, I would say either
Tu ne comprendras quand même jamais.
or
Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas.
If you want to be a little more sustained, you can also use "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
answered May 22 at 7:33
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Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
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“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Is incorrect in French, I would rather say:
“Tu ne comprendras donc jamais.”
That can be translated as:
So you'll never understand.
answered May 22 at 8:13
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Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
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"Quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même" ;"donc" is a word meant to express a consequence. However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
- Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
You wouldn't ever understand anyway., You wouldn't understand anyway, ever.
A good paraphrase for "quand même" is "de toute façon", which rhymes well with the English "anyway".
- Tu ne comprendrais de toute façon jamais.
There is the possibilité to front this adverbial locution or to reject it at the end after a comma ;
- De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais. _ Tu ne comprendrais jamais, de toute façon
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Not sure why other answers consider the conditional mood incorrect here but your sentence is just fine:
Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
Alternatives can be:
De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
Malgré tout, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
answered May 22 at 8:40
jlliagrejlliagre
69.3k450114
Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
add a comment |
Not sure why other answers consider the conditional mood incorrect here but your sentence is just fine:
Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
Alternatives can be:
De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
Malgré tout, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
answered May 22 at 8:40
jlliagrejlliagre
69.3k450114
Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
add a comment |
Not sure why other answers consider the conditional mood incorrect here but your sentence is just fine:
Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
Alternatives can be:
De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
Malgré tout, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
answered May 22 at 8:40
jlliagrejlliagre
69.3k450114
Not sure why other answers consider the conditional mood incorrect here but your sentence is just fine:
Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
Alternatives can be:
De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
Malgré tout, tu ne comprendrais jamais.
answered May 22 at 8:40
jlliagrejlliagre
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answered May 22 at 8:40
jlliagrejlliagre
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answered May 22 at 8:40
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answered May 22 at 8:40
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Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
add a comment |
Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
Thank you; I was confused due to the conflicting answers and mildly frustrated, but I feel better knowing I took a guess and got it right.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:44
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@jiliagre Je ne vois tout de même que très peu de cas d'utilisations de "Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais." auriez vous un (ou plusieurs) exemples?
– Ced
May 22 at 12:02
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced Il n'y en a pas pléthore mais en voici deux : Quelques grenouilles commencèrent à se résigner sauf une, notamment, qui continuait à grimper bien que les gens continuaient à se moquer ou à les plaindre : « Quelle peine perdue ! Elles n’y arriveront quand même jamais ! » et * Tu dis « oui, si Futuropolis faisait les livres comme on les fait »… ça n’arrivera quand même jamais..
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:22
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
@Ced et aussi: Non ! Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas !, Georges Simenon, Long cours
– jlliagre
May 22 at 12:27
add a comment |
It is ok to put "quand même" before "jamais".
But, I would say either
Tu ne comprendras quand même jamais.
or
Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas.
If you want to be a little more sustained, you can also use "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
answered May 22 at 7:33
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Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
|
show 3 more comments
It is ok to put "quand même" before "jamais".
But, I would say either
Tu ne comprendras quand même jamais.
or
Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas.
If you want to be a little more sustained, you can also use "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
answered May 22 at 7:33
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Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
|
show 3 more comments
It is ok to put "quand même" before "jamais".
But, I would say either
Tu ne comprendras quand même jamais.
or
Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas.
If you want to be a little more sustained, you can also use "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
answered May 22 at 7:33
Kilarn123Kilarn123
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It is ok to put "quand même" before "jamais".
But, I would say either
Tu ne comprendras quand même jamais.
or
Tu ne comprendrais quand même pas.
If you want to be a little more sustained, you can also use "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
answered May 22 at 7:33
Kilarn123Kilarn123
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Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
|
show 3 more comments
Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
Thank you! What meaning does “donc” take on in your example?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 7:37
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
In this context, it means about the same as "quand même", it is mostly for emphasis. It just sounds more sustained. Depending on what the context of your text is, it can be more appropriate
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 7:45
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Got it, thank you. I’m writing some song lyrics, mostly in English. But I threw in a couple lines of French: “je ne crois pas que t’en es déjà là / mais tu ne comprendras quand même jamais” to mean “I don’t think you’re there yet / but you’ll never understand anyway.” At least, that’s what I want it to say.
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:18
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
Not at all, "donc" is a word meant to express a consequence ; "quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même". However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
– LPH
May 22 at 8:50
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
@LPH The primary meaning of "donc" cannot cannot be assimilated, but that is not the only meaning. It can also introduce a conclusion or show surprise (source). Here it is to introduce the conclusion that the person will never understand.
– Kilarn123
May 22 at 9:19
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“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Is incorrect in French, I would rather say:
“Tu ne comprendras donc jamais.”
That can be translated as:
So you'll never understand.
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
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“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Is incorrect in French, I would rather say:
“Tu ne comprendras donc jamais.”
That can be translated as:
So you'll never understand.
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
add a comment |
“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Is incorrect in French, I would rather say:
“Tu ne comprendras donc jamais.”
That can be translated as:
So you'll never understand.
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
“Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.”
Is incorrect in French, I would rather say:
“Tu ne comprendras donc jamais.”
That can be translated as:
So you'll never understand.
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
answered May 22 at 8:13
CedCed
1,829121
1,829121
Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
add a comment |
Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
Could I say “tu ne comprendras quand même jamais”? Or that doesn’t work either?
– tssmith2425
May 22 at 8:20
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
I'm sorry but no you can't, you can either say "Tu ne comprendras jamais." or "Tu ne comprendras donc jamais."
– Ced
May 22 at 8:28
add a comment |
"Quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même" ;"donc" is a word meant to express a consequence. However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
- Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
You wouldn't ever understand anyway., You wouldn't understand anyway, ever.
A good paraphrase for "quand même" is "de toute façon", which rhymes well with the English "anyway".
- Tu ne comprendrais de toute façon jamais.
There is the possibilité to front this adverbial locution or to reject it at the end after a comma ;
- De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais. _ Tu ne comprendrais jamais, de toute façon
answered May 22 at 9:05
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"Quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même" ;"donc" is a word meant to express a consequence. However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
- Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
You wouldn't ever understand anyway., You wouldn't understand anyway, ever.
A good paraphrase for "quand même" is "de toute façon", which rhymes well with the English "anyway".
- Tu ne comprendrais de toute façon jamais.
There is the possibilité to front this adverbial locution or to reject it at the end after a comma ;
- De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais. _ Tu ne comprendrais jamais, de toute façon
answered May 22 at 9:05
LPHLPH
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"Quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même" ;"donc" is a word meant to express a consequence. However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
- Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
You wouldn't ever understand anyway., You wouldn't understand anyway, ever.
A good paraphrase for "quand même" is "de toute façon", which rhymes well with the English "anyway".
- Tu ne comprendrais de toute façon jamais.
There is the possibilité to front this adverbial locution or to reject it at the end after a comma ;
- De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais. _ Tu ne comprendrais jamais, de toute façon
answered May 22 at 9:05
LPHLPH
12.8k1628
"Quand même" expresses the disregard of a condition, order, principle, etc. that has been previously stated, the happening of something in spite of adversity, contrary conditions, etc. "Donc" cannot be assimilated with "quand même" ;"donc" is a word meant to express a consequence. However, it's perfectly correct to use "quand même" before "jamais".
- Tu ne comprendrais quand même jamais.
You wouldn't ever understand anyway., You wouldn't understand anyway, ever.
A good paraphrase for "quand même" is "de toute façon", which rhymes well with the English "anyway".
- Tu ne comprendrais de toute façon jamais.
There is the possibilité to front this adverbial locution or to reject it at the end after a comma ;
- De toute façon, tu ne comprendrais jamais. _ Tu ne comprendrais jamais, de toute façon
answered May 22 at 9:05
LPHLPH
12.8k1628
answered May 22 at 9:05
LPHLPH
12.8k1628
answered May 22 at 9:05
LPHLPH
12.8k1628
answered May 22 at 9:05
LPHLPH
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12.8k1628
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