Can I use 220 V outlets on a 15 ampere breaker and wire it up as 110 V?How can I replace a 3-way light switch with a motion sensor?How do I wire this ceiling fan?How do I properly install GFCI outlets with existing 12/3 wire in parallel and on a switch?Smoke and Sparks From Circuit Going to 6 Wire Outlet?Splitting a 220 V line into two 110 V lines?Three-way switch wiring behaving oddlyRed wire is connected to ground screw in my 110 volt receptacleReplacing outlet; found one white wire hot. How to connect?Ceiling fan with 2 switches with remoteChanging 220 to 110
Fill the maze with a wall-following Snake until it gets stuck
Definition of 'vrit'
How is linear momentum conserved in circular motion?
Co-worker is now managing my team. Does this mean that I'm being demoted?
Operator currying: how to convert f[a,b][c,d] to a+c,b+d?
Is a sequel allowed to start before the end of the first book?
I have found ports on my Samsung smart tv running a display service. What can I do with it?
Why we can't jump without bending our knees?
Using roof rails to set up hammock
Does cooling a potato change the nature of its carbohydrates?
Boundaries and Buddhism
Fibonacci sequence and other metallic sequences emerged in the form of fractions
Justifying Affordable Bespoke Spaceships
What is the precise meaning of "подсел на мак"?
how to find which software is doing ssh connection?
Can a character with the Polearm Master feat make an opportunity attack against an invisible creature that enters their reach?
Simplify, equivalent for (p ∨ ¬q) ∧ (¬p ∨ ¬q)
Counterfeit check
How can caller ID be faked?
Bash function: Execute $@ command with each argument in sequence executed separately
writing a function between sets vertically
You may find me... puzzling
When is the phrase "j'ai bon" used?
What does this Swiss black on yellow rectangular traffic sign with a symbol looking like a dart mean?
Can I use 220 V outlets on a 15 ampere breaker and wire it up as 110 V?
How can I replace a 3-way light switch with a motion sensor?How do I wire this ceiling fan?How do I properly install GFCI outlets with existing 12/3 wire in parallel and on a switch?Smoke and Sparks From Circuit Going to 6 Wire Outlet?Splitting a 220 V line into two 110 V lines?Three-way switch wiring behaving oddlyRed wire is connected to ground screw in my 110 volt receptacleReplacing outlet; found one white wire hot. How to connect?Ceiling fan with 2 switches with remoteChanging 220 to 110
.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;
I purchased a 220 V outlet and didn't realize it. My circuit is 15 amperes. I wanted to hook up a series of normal 15 ampere 110 V outlets. When I look at the outlet it looks exactly like a regular 15 ampere 110 V one?...but it has a red, blue, and yellow wire instead of black, white and green wires.
The red wire connects to the brass screw (where black normally goes), the blue wire to the silver screw (where white normally goes), and the yellow to ground (where green or brass wire normally goes). The instructions are in German and/or English.
It looks like the outlet is just a metal backing and a plastic face.
It should be ok to hook up these outlets and use them as 110 V ones, correct???
Is there anything special about the way a 220 V or 110 V are made?
I am in the US, near Washington, D.C.
electrical wiring receptacle 120-240v
New contributor
|
show 4 more comments
I purchased a 220 V outlet and didn't realize it. My circuit is 15 amperes. I wanted to hook up a series of normal 15 ampere 110 V outlets. When I look at the outlet it looks exactly like a regular 15 ampere 110 V one?...but it has a red, blue, and yellow wire instead of black, white and green wires.
The red wire connects to the brass screw (where black normally goes), the blue wire to the silver screw (where white normally goes), and the yellow to ground (where green or brass wire normally goes). The instructions are in German and/or English.
It looks like the outlet is just a metal backing and a plastic face.
It should be ok to hook up these outlets and use them as 110 V ones, correct???
Is there anything special about the way a 220 V or 110 V are made?
I am in the US, near Washington, D.C.
electrical wiring receptacle 120-240v
New contributor
1
That's really strange. Where are you on this planet, and can you post a photo of the outlet you bought?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 22:53
7
Uh, that's not a 240V outlet, can you post actual pictures of the device you have?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
This is the outlet I purchased. ... amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
It says it is a 15 amp outlet but the paperwork says 220v - 250v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:09
4
These could have been manufactured in the Philippines,where they actually put 220 on US 120V receptacles.
– Doug
Jun 11 at 10:16
|
show 4 more comments
I purchased a 220 V outlet and didn't realize it. My circuit is 15 amperes. I wanted to hook up a series of normal 15 ampere 110 V outlets. When I look at the outlet it looks exactly like a regular 15 ampere 110 V one?...but it has a red, blue, and yellow wire instead of black, white and green wires.
The red wire connects to the brass screw (where black normally goes), the blue wire to the silver screw (where white normally goes), and the yellow to ground (where green or brass wire normally goes). The instructions are in German and/or English.
It looks like the outlet is just a metal backing and a plastic face.
It should be ok to hook up these outlets and use them as 110 V ones, correct???
Is there anything special about the way a 220 V or 110 V are made?
I am in the US, near Washington, D.C.
electrical wiring receptacle 120-240v
New contributor
I purchased a 220 V outlet and didn't realize it. My circuit is 15 amperes. I wanted to hook up a series of normal 15 ampere 110 V outlets. When I look at the outlet it looks exactly like a regular 15 ampere 110 V one?...but it has a red, blue, and yellow wire instead of black, white and green wires.
The red wire connects to the brass screw (where black normally goes), the blue wire to the silver screw (where white normally goes), and the yellow to ground (where green or brass wire normally goes). The instructions are in German and/or English.
It looks like the outlet is just a metal backing and a plastic face.
It should be ok to hook up these outlets and use them as 110 V ones, correct???
Is there anything special about the way a 220 V or 110 V are made?
I am in the US, near Washington, D.C.
electrical wiring receptacle 120-240v
electrical wiring receptacle 120-240v
New contributor
New contributor
edited Jun 11 at 18:22
Machavity
9,19842043
9,19842043
New contributor
asked Jun 9 at 22:12
SteveSteve
7714
7714
New contributor
New contributor
1
That's really strange. Where are you on this planet, and can you post a photo of the outlet you bought?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 22:53
7
Uh, that's not a 240V outlet, can you post actual pictures of the device you have?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
This is the outlet I purchased. ... amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
It says it is a 15 amp outlet but the paperwork says 220v - 250v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:09
4
These could have been manufactured in the Philippines,where they actually put 220 on US 120V receptacles.
– Doug
Jun 11 at 10:16
|
show 4 more comments
1
That's really strange. Where are you on this planet, and can you post a photo of the outlet you bought?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 22:53
7
Uh, that's not a 240V outlet, can you post actual pictures of the device you have?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
This is the outlet I purchased. ... amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
It says it is a 15 amp outlet but the paperwork says 220v - 250v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:09
4
These could have been manufactured in the Philippines,where they actually put 220 on US 120V receptacles.
– Doug
Jun 11 at 10:16
1
1
That's really strange. Where are you on this planet, and can you post a photo of the outlet you bought?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 22:53
That's really strange. Where are you on this planet, and can you post a photo of the outlet you bought?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 22:53
7
7
Uh, that's not a 240V outlet, can you post actual pictures of the device you have?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 23:06
Uh, that's not a 240V outlet, can you post actual pictures of the device you have?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
1
This is the outlet I purchased. ... amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
This is the outlet I purchased. ... amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
1
It says it is a 15 amp outlet but the paperwork says 220v - 250v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:09
It says it is a 15 amp outlet but the paperwork says 220v - 250v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:09
4
4
These could have been manufactured in the Philippines,where they actually put 220 on US 120V receptacles.
– Doug
Jun 11 at 10:16
These could have been manufactured in the Philippines,where they actually put 220 on US 120V receptacles.
– Doug
Jun 11 at 10:16
|
show 4 more comments
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
Send it back right now
You bought it off Amazon Marketplace, the world's biggest junk shop. A step down from eBay, even, because this garbage hides amongst legitimate products. Here. See what you had to notice to even spot it?
(Sorry for the huge size)
Note the "Sold by some_random and Fulfilled by Amazon" part. That means "Amazon Marketplace" flea market. Often, they also have goofy brand names that sound like Ikea furniture names, but you can't count on that. They're just making it up.
Standards matter. Really.
These things don't come within a mile of US safety standards. If you think that doesn’t matter, watch Big Clive on Youtube, you'll get religion right quick :)
Heck, it doesn't even comply with EU safety standards. The CE stamp and RoHS stamp are counterfeited... or to be more precise, they are a legal promise by the person inside the EU who manufactured it inside the EU or imported it into the EU, that it complies. Joe EuCitizen mail-orders it, and it ships direct from China or via Amazon's fulfillment center, Joe EuCitizen is the importer in EU law. See how that works?
In the USA the system is not promise based, but requires every piece of equipment be listed. Listed means manufacturers and importers must send off specimens of the items to Underwriter's Laboratories or equally competent testing lab, where they do destructive testing well beyond BigClive levels. Most equipment breezes through this because manufacturers know what they're doing and they're either using the same methods as were approved before, or components with the RU mark which means UL pre-approved the components.
The scam
Here is the business model of this scam. Many Chinese counterfeiters market products designed to look like legitimate product, but of course are made very, very cheaply. This scammer found this particular one on Alibaba, a bastion of this type of spew. He asked the builder "hey, can you give me USA sockets?"* The builder said "sure". (Hence the Faux German wire colors). He paid $14 each to have them individually packaged, sent a crate of these to the Amazon fulfillment warehouse (for which he pays about $3 per unit), and so they're in Prime. Probably did all this from a computer in East Asia.
So you have ten(s) of people pretending to be hundreds of companies all selling the same stuff from the same 1-3 Chinese junk mills.
Note the price is only a little bit below the price of a UL listed domestic unit from a reputable builder that is actually designed for that purpose and built properly. That's how they set prices: expensive enough to look legit and cheaper enough to make you buy. The profits are insane, and they don't even care that you return it; don't be surprised if they tell you to keep it.
Total junk. You were ripped off, request a return based on "not as described" and send it back.
How to buy not junk
If it's too late to send it back, or if they tell you to keep it, send it to Big Clive on YouTube. He will tear it down in a video and show you all the ways it would've tried to kill you.
In the future, don't buy electrical parts online; they are price prohibitive because they're usually too low value to justify shipping. Talk to your local electrical supply house, and tell them you are sick of being overcharged by Home Depot (that puts them on notice that you are price conscious).
Certainly never touch an "Amazon Marketplace" product again with a 10-foot pole.
Amazon proper is supposed to be OK, but two problems. First telling the difference in listings. Second is, if you buy something "shipped from and sold by Amazon Proper" that they legitimately sourced from Actual Leviton, and Amazon is out of stock on that, they will silently and automatically substitute the same "SKU" from an Amazon Marketplace seller — and sellers are stuffing that channel with this ugly stuff.
-
* the HA-BSD-001 code on the parts bag googles to a page on Alibaba, listing an identical device, but with a German "Schuko" socket instead of our familiar friend the NEMA 5-15. The colors, right on cue, are shown in the listing as red blue yellow/green, faux German colors.
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
add a comment |
Send it back and get something that's listed for the job
While what you have is indeed a 120V outlet (the outlet configuration governs, not some text in a manual somewhere), this outlet is not usable in a countertop or work surface in the USA, as it is not listed or labeled for use in a countertop or work surface, as requred by NEC 406.5(E) through (G):
(E) Receptacles in Countertops. Receptacle assemblies for
installation in countertop surfaces shall be listed for countertop applications. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop
applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8,
such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications.
(F) Receptacles in Work Surfaces. Receptacle assemblies and
GFCI receptacle assemblies listed for work surface or countertop applications shall be permitted to be installed in work
surfaces.
(G) Receptacle Orientation. Receptacles shall not be installed
in a face-up position in or on countertop surfaces or work
surfaces unless listed for countertop or work surface applications.
So, you'll need to return it and get something else that has an actual UL/ETL/... listing for this application.
1
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
2
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
1
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
add a comment |
This is a 220V outlet (note horizontal "live" slot on the right):
And this is a 110V outlet (vertical "live" slot):
Pictures valid in USA.
Look at these two outlets. I recently grabbed a 110 thinking it was a 220.
There is a difference a 220 plug won’t fit a 110 and a 110 won’t fit a 220. If your 110 plugs fit the outlets you have the will work as long as you wire a hot a neutral and a ground to the correct screws.
1
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "73"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Steve is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fdiy.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f166899%2fcan-i-use-220-v-outlets-on-a-15-ampere-breaker-and-wire-it-up-as-110-v%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
Send it back right now
You bought it off Amazon Marketplace, the world's biggest junk shop. A step down from eBay, even, because this garbage hides amongst legitimate products. Here. See what you had to notice to even spot it?
(Sorry for the huge size)
Note the "Sold by some_random and Fulfilled by Amazon" part. That means "Amazon Marketplace" flea market. Often, they also have goofy brand names that sound like Ikea furniture names, but you can't count on that. They're just making it up.
Standards matter. Really.
These things don't come within a mile of US safety standards. If you think that doesn’t matter, watch Big Clive on Youtube, you'll get religion right quick :)
Heck, it doesn't even comply with EU safety standards. The CE stamp and RoHS stamp are counterfeited... or to be more precise, they are a legal promise by the person inside the EU who manufactured it inside the EU or imported it into the EU, that it complies. Joe EuCitizen mail-orders it, and it ships direct from China or via Amazon's fulfillment center, Joe EuCitizen is the importer in EU law. See how that works?
In the USA the system is not promise based, but requires every piece of equipment be listed. Listed means manufacturers and importers must send off specimens of the items to Underwriter's Laboratories or equally competent testing lab, where they do destructive testing well beyond BigClive levels. Most equipment breezes through this because manufacturers know what they're doing and they're either using the same methods as were approved before, or components with the RU mark which means UL pre-approved the components.
The scam
Here is the business model of this scam. Many Chinese counterfeiters market products designed to look like legitimate product, but of course are made very, very cheaply. This scammer found this particular one on Alibaba, a bastion of this type of spew. He asked the builder "hey, can you give me USA sockets?"* The builder said "sure". (Hence the Faux German wire colors). He paid $14 each to have them individually packaged, sent a crate of these to the Amazon fulfillment warehouse (for which he pays about $3 per unit), and so they're in Prime. Probably did all this from a computer in East Asia.
So you have ten(s) of people pretending to be hundreds of companies all selling the same stuff from the same 1-3 Chinese junk mills.
Note the price is only a little bit below the price of a UL listed domestic unit from a reputable builder that is actually designed for that purpose and built properly. That's how they set prices: expensive enough to look legit and cheaper enough to make you buy. The profits are insane, and they don't even care that you return it; don't be surprised if they tell you to keep it.
Total junk. You were ripped off, request a return based on "not as described" and send it back.
How to buy not junk
If it's too late to send it back, or if they tell you to keep it, send it to Big Clive on YouTube. He will tear it down in a video and show you all the ways it would've tried to kill you.
In the future, don't buy electrical parts online; they are price prohibitive because they're usually too low value to justify shipping. Talk to your local electrical supply house, and tell them you are sick of being overcharged by Home Depot (that puts them on notice that you are price conscious).
Certainly never touch an "Amazon Marketplace" product again with a 10-foot pole.
Amazon proper is supposed to be OK, but two problems. First telling the difference in listings. Second is, if you buy something "shipped from and sold by Amazon Proper" that they legitimately sourced from Actual Leviton, and Amazon is out of stock on that, they will silently and automatically substitute the same "SKU" from an Amazon Marketplace seller — and sellers are stuffing that channel with this ugly stuff.
-
* the HA-BSD-001 code on the parts bag googles to a page on Alibaba, listing an identical device, but with a German "Schuko" socket instead of our familiar friend the NEMA 5-15. The colors, right on cue, are shown in the listing as red blue yellow/green, faux German colors.
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
add a comment |
Send it back right now
You bought it off Amazon Marketplace, the world's biggest junk shop. A step down from eBay, even, because this garbage hides amongst legitimate products. Here. See what you had to notice to even spot it?
(Sorry for the huge size)
Note the "Sold by some_random and Fulfilled by Amazon" part. That means "Amazon Marketplace" flea market. Often, they also have goofy brand names that sound like Ikea furniture names, but you can't count on that. They're just making it up.
Standards matter. Really.
These things don't come within a mile of US safety standards. If you think that doesn’t matter, watch Big Clive on Youtube, you'll get religion right quick :)
Heck, it doesn't even comply with EU safety standards. The CE stamp and RoHS stamp are counterfeited... or to be more precise, they are a legal promise by the person inside the EU who manufactured it inside the EU or imported it into the EU, that it complies. Joe EuCitizen mail-orders it, and it ships direct from China or via Amazon's fulfillment center, Joe EuCitizen is the importer in EU law. See how that works?
In the USA the system is not promise based, but requires every piece of equipment be listed. Listed means manufacturers and importers must send off specimens of the items to Underwriter's Laboratories or equally competent testing lab, where they do destructive testing well beyond BigClive levels. Most equipment breezes through this because manufacturers know what they're doing and they're either using the same methods as were approved before, or components with the RU mark which means UL pre-approved the components.
The scam
Here is the business model of this scam. Many Chinese counterfeiters market products designed to look like legitimate product, but of course are made very, very cheaply. This scammer found this particular one on Alibaba, a bastion of this type of spew. He asked the builder "hey, can you give me USA sockets?"* The builder said "sure". (Hence the Faux German wire colors). He paid $14 each to have them individually packaged, sent a crate of these to the Amazon fulfillment warehouse (for which he pays about $3 per unit), and so they're in Prime. Probably did all this from a computer in East Asia.
So you have ten(s) of people pretending to be hundreds of companies all selling the same stuff from the same 1-3 Chinese junk mills.
Note the price is only a little bit below the price of a UL listed domestic unit from a reputable builder that is actually designed for that purpose and built properly. That's how they set prices: expensive enough to look legit and cheaper enough to make you buy. The profits are insane, and they don't even care that you return it; don't be surprised if they tell you to keep it.
Total junk. You were ripped off, request a return based on "not as described" and send it back.
How to buy not junk
If it's too late to send it back, or if they tell you to keep it, send it to Big Clive on YouTube. He will tear it down in a video and show you all the ways it would've tried to kill you.
In the future, don't buy electrical parts online; they are price prohibitive because they're usually too low value to justify shipping. Talk to your local electrical supply house, and tell them you are sick of being overcharged by Home Depot (that puts them on notice that you are price conscious).
Certainly never touch an "Amazon Marketplace" product again with a 10-foot pole.
Amazon proper is supposed to be OK, but two problems. First telling the difference in listings. Second is, if you buy something "shipped from and sold by Amazon Proper" that they legitimately sourced from Actual Leviton, and Amazon is out of stock on that, they will silently and automatically substitute the same "SKU" from an Amazon Marketplace seller — and sellers are stuffing that channel with this ugly stuff.
-
* the HA-BSD-001 code on the parts bag googles to a page on Alibaba, listing an identical device, but with a German "Schuko" socket instead of our familiar friend the NEMA 5-15. The colors, right on cue, are shown in the listing as red blue yellow/green, faux German colors.
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
add a comment |
Send it back right now
You bought it off Amazon Marketplace, the world's biggest junk shop. A step down from eBay, even, because this garbage hides amongst legitimate products. Here. See what you had to notice to even spot it?
(Sorry for the huge size)
Note the "Sold by some_random and Fulfilled by Amazon" part. That means "Amazon Marketplace" flea market. Often, they also have goofy brand names that sound like Ikea furniture names, but you can't count on that. They're just making it up.
Standards matter. Really.
These things don't come within a mile of US safety standards. If you think that doesn’t matter, watch Big Clive on Youtube, you'll get religion right quick :)
Heck, it doesn't even comply with EU safety standards. The CE stamp and RoHS stamp are counterfeited... or to be more precise, they are a legal promise by the person inside the EU who manufactured it inside the EU or imported it into the EU, that it complies. Joe EuCitizen mail-orders it, and it ships direct from China or via Amazon's fulfillment center, Joe EuCitizen is the importer in EU law. See how that works?
In the USA the system is not promise based, but requires every piece of equipment be listed. Listed means manufacturers and importers must send off specimens of the items to Underwriter's Laboratories or equally competent testing lab, where they do destructive testing well beyond BigClive levels. Most equipment breezes through this because manufacturers know what they're doing and they're either using the same methods as were approved before, or components with the RU mark which means UL pre-approved the components.
The scam
Here is the business model of this scam. Many Chinese counterfeiters market products designed to look like legitimate product, but of course are made very, very cheaply. This scammer found this particular one on Alibaba, a bastion of this type of spew. He asked the builder "hey, can you give me USA sockets?"* The builder said "sure". (Hence the Faux German wire colors). He paid $14 each to have them individually packaged, sent a crate of these to the Amazon fulfillment warehouse (for which he pays about $3 per unit), and so they're in Prime. Probably did all this from a computer in East Asia.
So you have ten(s) of people pretending to be hundreds of companies all selling the same stuff from the same 1-3 Chinese junk mills.
Note the price is only a little bit below the price of a UL listed domestic unit from a reputable builder that is actually designed for that purpose and built properly. That's how they set prices: expensive enough to look legit and cheaper enough to make you buy. The profits are insane, and they don't even care that you return it; don't be surprised if they tell you to keep it.
Total junk. You were ripped off, request a return based on "not as described" and send it back.
How to buy not junk
If it's too late to send it back, or if they tell you to keep it, send it to Big Clive on YouTube. He will tear it down in a video and show you all the ways it would've tried to kill you.
In the future, don't buy electrical parts online; they are price prohibitive because they're usually too low value to justify shipping. Talk to your local electrical supply house, and tell them you are sick of being overcharged by Home Depot (that puts them on notice that you are price conscious).
Certainly never touch an "Amazon Marketplace" product again with a 10-foot pole.
Amazon proper is supposed to be OK, but two problems. First telling the difference in listings. Second is, if you buy something "shipped from and sold by Amazon Proper" that they legitimately sourced from Actual Leviton, and Amazon is out of stock on that, they will silently and automatically substitute the same "SKU" from an Amazon Marketplace seller — and sellers are stuffing that channel with this ugly stuff.
-
* the HA-BSD-001 code on the parts bag googles to a page on Alibaba, listing an identical device, but with a German "Schuko" socket instead of our familiar friend the NEMA 5-15. The colors, right on cue, are shown in the listing as red blue yellow/green, faux German colors.
Send it back right now
You bought it off Amazon Marketplace, the world's biggest junk shop. A step down from eBay, even, because this garbage hides amongst legitimate products. Here. See what you had to notice to even spot it?
(Sorry for the huge size)
Note the "Sold by some_random and Fulfilled by Amazon" part. That means "Amazon Marketplace" flea market. Often, they also have goofy brand names that sound like Ikea furniture names, but you can't count on that. They're just making it up.
Standards matter. Really.
These things don't come within a mile of US safety standards. If you think that doesn’t matter, watch Big Clive on Youtube, you'll get religion right quick :)
Heck, it doesn't even comply with EU safety standards. The CE stamp and RoHS stamp are counterfeited... or to be more precise, they are a legal promise by the person inside the EU who manufactured it inside the EU or imported it into the EU, that it complies. Joe EuCitizen mail-orders it, and it ships direct from China or via Amazon's fulfillment center, Joe EuCitizen is the importer in EU law. See how that works?
In the USA the system is not promise based, but requires every piece of equipment be listed. Listed means manufacturers and importers must send off specimens of the items to Underwriter's Laboratories or equally competent testing lab, where they do destructive testing well beyond BigClive levels. Most equipment breezes through this because manufacturers know what they're doing and they're either using the same methods as were approved before, or components with the RU mark which means UL pre-approved the components.
The scam
Here is the business model of this scam. Many Chinese counterfeiters market products designed to look like legitimate product, but of course are made very, very cheaply. This scammer found this particular one on Alibaba, a bastion of this type of spew. He asked the builder "hey, can you give me USA sockets?"* The builder said "sure". (Hence the Faux German wire colors). He paid $14 each to have them individually packaged, sent a crate of these to the Amazon fulfillment warehouse (for which he pays about $3 per unit), and so they're in Prime. Probably did all this from a computer in East Asia.
So you have ten(s) of people pretending to be hundreds of companies all selling the same stuff from the same 1-3 Chinese junk mills.
Note the price is only a little bit below the price of a UL listed domestic unit from a reputable builder that is actually designed for that purpose and built properly. That's how they set prices: expensive enough to look legit and cheaper enough to make you buy. The profits are insane, and they don't even care that you return it; don't be surprised if they tell you to keep it.
Total junk. You were ripped off, request a return based on "not as described" and send it back.
How to buy not junk
If it's too late to send it back, or if they tell you to keep it, send it to Big Clive on YouTube. He will tear it down in a video and show you all the ways it would've tried to kill you.
In the future, don't buy electrical parts online; they are price prohibitive because they're usually too low value to justify shipping. Talk to your local electrical supply house, and tell them you are sick of being overcharged by Home Depot (that puts them on notice that you are price conscious).
Certainly never touch an "Amazon Marketplace" product again with a 10-foot pole.
Amazon proper is supposed to be OK, but two problems. First telling the difference in listings. Second is, if you buy something "shipped from and sold by Amazon Proper" that they legitimately sourced from Actual Leviton, and Amazon is out of stock on that, they will silently and automatically substitute the same "SKU" from an Amazon Marketplace seller — and sellers are stuffing that channel with this ugly stuff.
-
* the HA-BSD-001 code on the parts bag googles to a page on Alibaba, listing an identical device, but with a German "Schuko" socket instead of our familiar friend the NEMA 5-15. The colors, right on cue, are shown in the listing as red blue yellow/green, faux German colors.
edited Jun 10 at 18:24
answered Jun 10 at 1:03
HarperHarper
82.9k557168
82.9k557168
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
add a comment |
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat.
– Michael Karas♦
Jun 12 at 5:18
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
This should be THE answer to every "I bought something on DealExtreme / AliExpress / Ebay / Amazon marketplace, and ..." question on the entire StackExchange network. Great explanation of how they peddle their junk.
– marcelm
Jun 12 at 10:59
add a comment |
Send it back and get something that's listed for the job
While what you have is indeed a 120V outlet (the outlet configuration governs, not some text in a manual somewhere), this outlet is not usable in a countertop or work surface in the USA, as it is not listed or labeled for use in a countertop or work surface, as requred by NEC 406.5(E) through (G):
(E) Receptacles in Countertops. Receptacle assemblies for
installation in countertop surfaces shall be listed for countertop applications. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop
applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8,
such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications.
(F) Receptacles in Work Surfaces. Receptacle assemblies and
GFCI receptacle assemblies listed for work surface or countertop applications shall be permitted to be installed in work
surfaces.
(G) Receptacle Orientation. Receptacles shall not be installed
in a face-up position in or on countertop surfaces or work
surfaces unless listed for countertop or work surface applications.
So, you'll need to return it and get something else that has an actual UL/ETL/... listing for this application.
1
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
2
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
1
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
add a comment |
Send it back and get something that's listed for the job
While what you have is indeed a 120V outlet (the outlet configuration governs, not some text in a manual somewhere), this outlet is not usable in a countertop or work surface in the USA, as it is not listed or labeled for use in a countertop or work surface, as requred by NEC 406.5(E) through (G):
(E) Receptacles in Countertops. Receptacle assemblies for
installation in countertop surfaces shall be listed for countertop applications. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop
applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8,
such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications.
(F) Receptacles in Work Surfaces. Receptacle assemblies and
GFCI receptacle assemblies listed for work surface or countertop applications shall be permitted to be installed in work
surfaces.
(G) Receptacle Orientation. Receptacles shall not be installed
in a face-up position in or on countertop surfaces or work
surfaces unless listed for countertop or work surface applications.
So, you'll need to return it and get something else that has an actual UL/ETL/... listing for this application.
1
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
2
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
1
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
add a comment |
Send it back and get something that's listed for the job
While what you have is indeed a 120V outlet (the outlet configuration governs, not some text in a manual somewhere), this outlet is not usable in a countertop or work surface in the USA, as it is not listed or labeled for use in a countertop or work surface, as requred by NEC 406.5(E) through (G):
(E) Receptacles in Countertops. Receptacle assemblies for
installation in countertop surfaces shall be listed for countertop applications. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop
applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8,
such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications.
(F) Receptacles in Work Surfaces. Receptacle assemblies and
GFCI receptacle assemblies listed for work surface or countertop applications shall be permitted to be installed in work
surfaces.
(G) Receptacle Orientation. Receptacles shall not be installed
in a face-up position in or on countertop surfaces or work
surfaces unless listed for countertop or work surface applications.
So, you'll need to return it and get something else that has an actual UL/ETL/... listing for this application.
Send it back and get something that's listed for the job
While what you have is indeed a 120V outlet (the outlet configuration governs, not some text in a manual somewhere), this outlet is not usable in a countertop or work surface in the USA, as it is not listed or labeled for use in a countertop or work surface, as requred by NEC 406.5(E) through (G):
(E) Receptacles in Countertops. Receptacle assemblies for
installation in countertop surfaces shall be listed for countertop applications. Where receptacle assemblies for countertop
applications are required to provide ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel in accordance with 210.8,
such assemblies shall be permitted to be listed as GFCI receptacle assemblies for countertop applications.
(F) Receptacles in Work Surfaces. Receptacle assemblies and
GFCI receptacle assemblies listed for work surface or countertop applications shall be permitted to be installed in work
surfaces.
(G) Receptacle Orientation. Receptacles shall not be installed
in a face-up position in or on countertop surfaces or work
surfaces unless listed for countertop or work surface applications.
So, you'll need to return it and get something else that has an actual UL/ETL/... listing for this application.
answered Jun 10 at 0:14
ThreePhaseEelThreePhaseEel
34.9k1155105
34.9k1155105
1
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
2
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
1
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
add a comment |
1
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
2
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
1
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
1
1
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
Ok thanks. Unfortunately I bought 7 of these last year...so probably just threw money away at this point. I do have a GFI wired in first in the series of connections. I thought that would suffice with these non Gfci outlets. Still, probably safer if I get 7 outlets with GFI in them. Thanks for your advice and help
– Steve
Jun 10 at 0:52
2
2
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
@Steve -- the issue isn't the GFCI, it's the lack of listing for countertop service. It means that you'll probably open them up a year down the road to find a mess inside when you're trying to troubleshoot mystery GFCI trips
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 10 at 2:42
1
1
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
@Steve one GFCI protecting the downline is the far saner way to do that. Anyway GFCI will not protect you from these items' mayhem. AFCI would have a better shot at doing so, but there are still serious risks.
– Harper
Jun 10 at 20:09
add a comment |
This is a 220V outlet (note horizontal "live" slot on the right):
And this is a 110V outlet (vertical "live" slot):
Pictures valid in USA.
Look at these two outlets. I recently grabbed a 110 thinking it was a 220.
There is a difference a 220 plug won’t fit a 110 and a 110 won’t fit a 220. If your 110 plugs fit the outlets you have the will work as long as you wire a hot a neutral and a ground to the correct screws.
1
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
add a comment |
This is a 220V outlet (note horizontal "live" slot on the right):
And this is a 110V outlet (vertical "live" slot):
Pictures valid in USA.
Look at these two outlets. I recently grabbed a 110 thinking it was a 220.
There is a difference a 220 plug won’t fit a 110 and a 110 won’t fit a 220. If your 110 plugs fit the outlets you have the will work as long as you wire a hot a neutral and a ground to the correct screws.
1
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
add a comment |
This is a 220V outlet (note horizontal "live" slot on the right):
And this is a 110V outlet (vertical "live" slot):
Pictures valid in USA.
Look at these two outlets. I recently grabbed a 110 thinking it was a 220.
There is a difference a 220 plug won’t fit a 110 and a 110 won’t fit a 220. If your 110 plugs fit the outlets you have the will work as long as you wire a hot a neutral and a ground to the correct screws.
This is a 220V outlet (note horizontal "live" slot on the right):
And this is a 110V outlet (vertical "live" slot):
Pictures valid in USA.
Look at these two outlets. I recently grabbed a 110 thinking it was a 220.
There is a difference a 220 plug won’t fit a 110 and a 110 won’t fit a 220. If your 110 plugs fit the outlets you have the will work as long as you wire a hot a neutral and a ground to the correct screws.
edited Jun 10 at 12:17
grawity
1034
1034
answered Jun 9 at 22:39
KrisKris
1,7741615
1,7741615
1
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
add a comment |
1
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
1
1
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…. It says it is a 15amp device....but the paperwork says it is 220v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
1
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
Thanks @grawity
– Kris
Jun 10 at 14:59
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
While the other answers make good points about buying safe products, this is the actual answer on why it will not work even if it was a perfectly safe socket.
– SQB
Jun 11 at 8:50
add a comment |
Steve is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Steve is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Steve is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Steve is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Thanks for contributing an answer to Home Improvement Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fdiy.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f166899%2fcan-i-use-220-v-outlets-on-a-15-ampere-breaker-and-wire-it-up-as-110-v%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
1
That's really strange. Where are you on this planet, and can you post a photo of the outlet you bought?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 22:53
7
Uh, that's not a 240V outlet, can you post actual pictures of the device you have?
– ThreePhaseEel
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
This is the outlet I purchased. ... amazon.com/gp/aw/d/…
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:06
1
It says it is a 15 amp outlet but the paperwork says 220v - 250v
– Steve
Jun 9 at 23:09
4
These could have been manufactured in the Philippines,where they actually put 220 on US 120V receptacles.
– Doug
Jun 11 at 10:16