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Wizard clothing for warm weather [closed]
Dwarven Clothing - Metal Only is uncomfortable, Cotton could be DeadlyFuture of clothingWhat would make good clothing for an underwater species?Would humanoids with fur be offended by fur clothing?Would aliens likely wear clothing?Clothing requirements for people with enhanced speedHow to realistically implement magic-users in medieval warfare?Surface Clothing for MerfolkPractical (and Impractical) Clothing Styles For MicrogravityLeaf-based clothing: Practical? Historical? Fictional?
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Wizards in fantasy worlds are very often portrayed in thick robes and hats (and of course long beards and hair for the men). These don't seem very practical for summers or any kind of hot weather (assuming wizards can't just have all their clothing enchanted with on-going air-conditioning effects.)
What is a realistic hot-weather outfit for a wizard, given their typical, particular needs (freedom of movement for casting, various books, potions, reagents, etc.)? Bonus points for example images and/or references to realistic/historical fashion.
reality-check society magic clothing
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Wizards in fantasy worlds are very often portrayed in thick robes and hats (and of course long beards and hair for the men). These don't seem very practical for summers or any kind of hot weather (assuming wizards can't just have all their clothing enchanted with on-going air-conditioning effects.)
What is a realistic hot-weather outfit for a wizard, given their typical, particular needs (freedom of movement for casting, various books, potions, reagents, etc.)? Bonus points for example images and/or references to realistic/historical fashion.
reality-check society magic clothing
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Seriously - reality-check tag or magic tag, please chose one. Otherwise magic-heat, do you want magic-heat?
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– Don Qualm
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Though its sad to have to say this - search for art for "female wizards". As many times, artists still render them with....let's say "clothing that is way better for warm weather" than their male counterparts
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Do it like JK Rowling for Harry Potter: Forbid him to use magic in the summer holidays. :-)
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While reality-check and magic are usually mutually exclusive, I think they both worth here. The RC is for human clothing in different conditions and the magic is to indicate the person's profession (which is relevant), status, and physical activity. Remember, magic isn't just for actual magic, it's the tag we use for "fantasy." So totally relevant.
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How about bermuda shorts?
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Wizards in fantasy worlds are very often portrayed in thick robes and hats (and of course long beards and hair for the men). These don't seem very practical for summers or any kind of hot weather (assuming wizards can't just have all their clothing enchanted with on-going air-conditioning effects.)
What is a realistic hot-weather outfit for a wizard, given their typical, particular needs (freedom of movement for casting, various books, potions, reagents, etc.)? Bonus points for example images and/or references to realistic/historical fashion.
reality-check society magic clothing
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Wizards in fantasy worlds are very often portrayed in thick robes and hats (and of course long beards and hair for the men). These don't seem very practical for summers or any kind of hot weather (assuming wizards can't just have all their clothing enchanted with on-going air-conditioning effects.)
What is a realistic hot-weather outfit for a wizard, given their typical, particular needs (freedom of movement for casting, various books, potions, reagents, etc.)? Bonus points for example images and/or references to realistic/historical fashion.
reality-check society magic clothing
reality-check society magic clothing
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Seriously - reality-check tag or magic tag, please chose one. Otherwise magic-heat, do you want magic-heat?
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– Don Qualm
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Though its sad to have to say this - search for art for "female wizards". As many times, artists still render them with....let's say "clothing that is way better for warm weather" than their male counterparts
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– JGreenwell
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Do it like JK Rowling for Harry Potter: Forbid him to use magic in the summer holidays. :-)
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– Karl
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While reality-check and magic are usually mutually exclusive, I think they both worth here. The RC is for human clothing in different conditions and the magic is to indicate the person's profession (which is relevant), status, and physical activity. Remember, magic isn't just for actual magic, it's the tag we use for "fantasy." So totally relevant.
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– Cyn
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How about bermuda shorts?
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Seriously - reality-check tag or magic tag, please chose one. Otherwise magic-heat, do you want magic-heat?
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– Don Qualm
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Though its sad to have to say this - search for art for "female wizards". As many times, artists still render them with....let's say "clothing that is way better for warm weather" than their male counterparts
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– JGreenwell
Jun 9 at 19:48
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Do it like JK Rowling for Harry Potter: Forbid him to use magic in the summer holidays. :-)
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– Karl
Jun 9 at 20:17
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While reality-check and magic are usually mutually exclusive, I think they both worth here. The RC is for human clothing in different conditions and the magic is to indicate the person's profession (which is relevant), status, and physical activity. Remember, magic isn't just for actual magic, it's the tag we use for "fantasy." So totally relevant.
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– Cyn
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How about bermuda shorts?
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– anaximander
Jun 10 at 9:55
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Seriously - reality-check tag or magic tag, please chose one. Otherwise magic-heat, do you want magic-heat?
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– Don Qualm
Jun 9 at 19:48
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Seriously - reality-check tag or magic tag, please chose one. Otherwise magic-heat, do you want magic-heat?
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– Don Qualm
Jun 9 at 19:48
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Though its sad to have to say this - search for art for "female wizards". As many times, artists still render them with....let's say "clothing that is way better for warm weather" than their male counterparts
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– JGreenwell
Jun 9 at 19:48
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Though its sad to have to say this - search for art for "female wizards". As many times, artists still render them with....let's say "clothing that is way better for warm weather" than their male counterparts
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– JGreenwell
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Do it like JK Rowling for Harry Potter: Forbid him to use magic in the summer holidays. :-)
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– Karl
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Do it like JK Rowling for Harry Potter: Forbid him to use magic in the summer holidays. :-)
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– Karl
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While reality-check and magic are usually mutually exclusive, I think they both worth here. The RC is for human clothing in different conditions and the magic is to indicate the person's profession (which is relevant), status, and physical activity. Remember, magic isn't just for actual magic, it's the tag we use for "fantasy." So totally relevant.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 3:42
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While reality-check and magic are usually mutually exclusive, I think they both worth here. The RC is for human clothing in different conditions and the magic is to indicate the person's profession (which is relevant), status, and physical activity. Remember, magic isn't just for actual magic, it's the tag we use for "fantasy." So totally relevant.
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How about bermuda shorts?
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How about bermuda shorts?
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Thinner robes? Seriously the broad brimmed hat is great for sunny weather or wet. If the robes are heavy wool they'll be almost water proof and plenty warm, thinner wool for cool spring and autumn weather and linsey-woolsey, a, usually, 50-50 blend of wool and the flax fibre used to make linen for the summer months in cooler climates, cotton, linen or silk according to local availability where it gets really hot in the summer. The Bedouin of the Sahara traditionally wear pale colored linen robes and head scarves to help them survive the desert heat. By sticking to a clothing pattern and varying only the materials wizards won't find themselves unexpectedly encumbered by a change in the weather.
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– RonJohn
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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That's a wizard robe, officer. Not a female dress. The floral pattern is there to help me better attune with nature.
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– John Dvorak
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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Lots of desert people wear long robes; if the sun is punishing enough, you'll want to cover up even if you are quite dark skinned. Loose fitting airy robes help keep you cool in those sorts of conditions, and by way of a bonus stop you getting too cold too quick when the sun sets, as in deserts the nights are often cold.
I won't try and ramble on here; images are the only really interesting things, and a) I'm finding it hard to locate really nice images worth showing you (because I'm a bit rubbish at image searching) and b) really, the photos will show a bunch of people in robes in interesting places. You don't really need to see them to know that yes, robes can and do work in very hot desert areas, and have been used for that exact purpose for well over a thousand years.
"Freedom of movement for casting" is ill defined, but constricting clothing is absolutely not what you want in very hot weather, so that's ok.
If your wizards want robes, then they can have robes. No problem

Tuareg man. I think he's wearing cotton; certainly it appears to be quite a light fabric. More info on Tuareg clothing, plus links.
(as an unrelated footnote, Tuaregs are islamic but it is the men who wear the veils)

Bedouin Sheikh. Note the black robes; when the sun is hot enough, the colour of your clothing doesn't really matter that much. White won't save you. Traditional bedouin robes were woolen, too.
And who could forget the classic strange bearded, robed guy with magical powers who lived in a desert?

(it is little bit pointless for Jedi to wear those sort of robes if they live in non-desert environments, but somewhere along the way Lucas et al confused practical clothing with a uniform)
For use outside of desert climates, robes become increasingly less attractive as the weather gets wetter. A nice woolen cloak does an excellent job of keeping the rain off, but once you get inside you'll want to take it off. You will find some robes and robe-like garments in warm, wet locations however:

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Note the off-the-shoulder motif; not so good for stopping the sun, but not as stifling in hot, high-humidity conditions. You may also note how this style is often associated with people with strange and mystical powers...
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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I wish I could give you a second +1 for including space wizards in this answer.
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The Gandalfesque wizard is a European wizard.
Robes make sense if you are in England. If you want a wizard from a hot climate, take a look at how people in that climate dressed historically when they wanted to put on a show and impress. These Javanese performers are not wizards (I don't think) but their outfits would be great for a hot climate wizard: lots of skin, lots of ornaments, creepy masks.

You can find wizards from anywhere. Googling around found Tahitians, Khmer, Indians; use search term sorcerer and you do better with African and pre-contact Americas. There is no shortage of amazing stuff for you to copy for your fiction.
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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The idea that a wizard wears a long robe is, surprisingly, a pretty old one. It's not a modern fantasy stereotype.
At least since the time of a Roman toga there was an implicit connection between long loose clothing and the lack of necessity to fight or work for a living.
In the 10th century the whole Europe started adopting Byzantine fashions, and we see kings in loose long robes on the miniatures, while fighting men and peasants wear shorter tunics. The Church had also adopted Byzantine fashions, so both Catholic and Orthodox priests and monks even now wear clothes that didn't change much from 10th century.
Free townspeople of high standing and scholars wore long robes in 15th century too.
In 17-19th century all the manners of loose silk robes of Eastern origin were worn as a part of domestic clothing by gentlemen of leisure, philosophers and writers. This banyan is an ancestor of a modern dressing gown and a bathrobe.
So we can conclude that the idea that an older man who doesn't need to fight or engage in other physical activity, but rather spends his time reading, writing, studying, teaching and discussing with other similar gentlemen, will wear long loose clothes, is entrenched enough in European culture that it doesn't need a reality check.
As for the materials, there are several ways to approach it. If we position medieval and not modern approach to sweat and body odor, you can continue wearing wool in a lot of environments. Ancient Greek and Roman clothes were mainly wool - and it gets pretty hot in Mediterranean. As other answers write, Bedouin clothes were traditionally wool.
If you are not afraid of your own sweat, wool is pretty comfortable when hot - maybe because it's a material more or less similar to human hair, being made from animal hair :)
Other materials like silk and cotton are already covered in other answers.
About the only environment you don't won't to wear wool in is warm and hot tropical. Buddhist monks still manage to wear long loose clothes there, even though it's rather a wraparound thingie and not a tailored robe.
UPD: as far as carrying the gear is concerned, in a medieval-ish world a wizard shouldn't carry all his gear with books and potions on his person. Just like a knight wouldn't always wear his armor and weapons. A knight would have a packhorse and a squire. A high-ranking wizard will have a mule and an apprentice to take care of that for him.
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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Using popular cultural as our guide, we only need to look at Disney for the wide range of sartorial options available to the modern magic user.
The traditional robe and pointy hats are suitable for everyday wear and official events too
But, wizards are nothing if not adaptable and comfortable in any manner of dress. Here we have Merlin strutting in the latest Bermuda fashions -- ensemble by Brooks Brothers of East Hollywood.

Even a wizard as notable as Gandalf with rock the silk robe, appropriate for a night on the town or hot Arabian nights
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You could look at the fashions of South American, African, SE Asian, and Pacific islander witch doctors, medicine men, shamans, sangomas, and whatever other names have been given to people claiming to use supernatural powers. Some of those are barely more than a loincloth. (With other paraphernalia added, often distinguishing their occupation: headdresses, bracelets, beads, staffs, etc. etc.)
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Comfort isn't always the most important thing, looking like you are what you are is also very important.
Think of medieval royalty and rich people, their outfits didn't really change summer or winter, as the point of the clothes was to be RICH, and to let every single person know they are RICH
Is this a summer of winter outfit for for the queen, short answer both

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Thinner robes? Seriously the broad brimmed hat is great for sunny weather or wet. If the robes are heavy wool they'll be almost water proof and plenty warm, thinner wool for cool spring and autumn weather and linsey-woolsey, a, usually, 50-50 blend of wool and the flax fibre used to make linen for the summer months in cooler climates, cotton, linen or silk according to local availability where it gets really hot in the summer. The Bedouin of the Sahara traditionally wear pale colored linen robes and head scarves to help them survive the desert heat. By sticking to a clothing pattern and varying only the materials wizards won't find themselves unexpectedly encumbered by a change in the weather.
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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That's a wizard robe, officer. Not a female dress. The floral pattern is there to help me better attune with nature.
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– John Dvorak
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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– Ash
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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Thinner robes? Seriously the broad brimmed hat is great for sunny weather or wet. If the robes are heavy wool they'll be almost water proof and plenty warm, thinner wool for cool spring and autumn weather and linsey-woolsey, a, usually, 50-50 blend of wool and the flax fibre used to make linen for the summer months in cooler climates, cotton, linen or silk according to local availability where it gets really hot in the summer. The Bedouin of the Sahara traditionally wear pale colored linen robes and head scarves to help them survive the desert heat. By sticking to a clothing pattern and varying only the materials wizards won't find themselves unexpectedly encumbered by a change in the weather.
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Some answers are too obvious.
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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That's a wizard robe, officer. Not a female dress. The floral pattern is there to help me better attune with nature.
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– John Dvorak
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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– Ash
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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Thinner robes? Seriously the broad brimmed hat is great for sunny weather or wet. If the robes are heavy wool they'll be almost water proof and plenty warm, thinner wool for cool spring and autumn weather and linsey-woolsey, a, usually, 50-50 blend of wool and the flax fibre used to make linen for the summer months in cooler climates, cotton, linen or silk according to local availability where it gets really hot in the summer. The Bedouin of the Sahara traditionally wear pale colored linen robes and head scarves to help them survive the desert heat. By sticking to a clothing pattern and varying only the materials wizards won't find themselves unexpectedly encumbered by a change in the weather.
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Thinner robes? Seriously the broad brimmed hat is great for sunny weather or wet. If the robes are heavy wool they'll be almost water proof and plenty warm, thinner wool for cool spring and autumn weather and linsey-woolsey, a, usually, 50-50 blend of wool and the flax fibre used to make linen for the summer months in cooler climates, cotton, linen or silk according to local availability where it gets really hot in the summer. The Bedouin of the Sahara traditionally wear pale colored linen robes and head scarves to help them survive the desert heat. By sticking to a clothing pattern and varying only the materials wizards won't find themselves unexpectedly encumbered by a change in the weather.
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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Some answers are too obvious.
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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That's a wizard robe, officer. Not a female dress. The floral pattern is there to help me better attune with nature.
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– John Dvorak
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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– Ash
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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Some answers are too obvious.
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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@RonJohn Yes and no, if you have a clear expectation that says this is what X looks like and that is what they act like then it can be very hard to shift away from that perception.
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That's a wizard robe, officer. Not a female dress. The floral pattern is there to help me better attune with nature.
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– John Dvorak
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That's a wizard robe, officer. Not a female dress. The floral pattern is there to help me better attune with nature.
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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@RonJohn Maybe but it's also impossible to look at a problem from anywhere but inside your own head unless you ask someone else and they point you at something new.
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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@RonJohn That's leisure reading not research. To get meaningful results reading for this kind of question you need to know you need to start, let alone where and how.
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Lots of desert people wear long robes; if the sun is punishing enough, you'll want to cover up even if you are quite dark skinned. Loose fitting airy robes help keep you cool in those sorts of conditions, and by way of a bonus stop you getting too cold too quick when the sun sets, as in deserts the nights are often cold.
I won't try and ramble on here; images are the only really interesting things, and a) I'm finding it hard to locate really nice images worth showing you (because I'm a bit rubbish at image searching) and b) really, the photos will show a bunch of people in robes in interesting places. You don't really need to see them to know that yes, robes can and do work in very hot desert areas, and have been used for that exact purpose for well over a thousand years.
"Freedom of movement for casting" is ill defined, but constricting clothing is absolutely not what you want in very hot weather, so that's ok.
If your wizards want robes, then they can have robes. No problem

Tuareg man. I think he's wearing cotton; certainly it appears to be quite a light fabric. More info on Tuareg clothing, plus links.
(as an unrelated footnote, Tuaregs are islamic but it is the men who wear the veils)

Bedouin Sheikh. Note the black robes; when the sun is hot enough, the colour of your clothing doesn't really matter that much. White won't save you. Traditional bedouin robes were woolen, too.
And who could forget the classic strange bearded, robed guy with magical powers who lived in a desert?

(it is little bit pointless for Jedi to wear those sort of robes if they live in non-desert environments, but somewhere along the way Lucas et al confused practical clothing with a uniform)
For use outside of desert climates, robes become increasingly less attractive as the weather gets wetter. A nice woolen cloak does an excellent job of keeping the rain off, but once you get inside you'll want to take it off. You will find some robes and robe-like garments in warm, wet locations however:

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Note the off-the-shoulder motif; not so good for stopping the sun, but not as stifling in hot, high-humidity conditions. You may also note how this style is often associated with people with strange and mystical powers...
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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– GlorfSf
Jun 10 at 12:54
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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– jean
Jun 10 at 14:20
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I wish I could give you a second +1 for including space wizards in this answer.
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– Dave Sherohman
Jun 10 at 15:22
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Lots of desert people wear long robes; if the sun is punishing enough, you'll want to cover up even if you are quite dark skinned. Loose fitting airy robes help keep you cool in those sorts of conditions, and by way of a bonus stop you getting too cold too quick when the sun sets, as in deserts the nights are often cold.
I won't try and ramble on here; images are the only really interesting things, and a) I'm finding it hard to locate really nice images worth showing you (because I'm a bit rubbish at image searching) and b) really, the photos will show a bunch of people in robes in interesting places. You don't really need to see them to know that yes, robes can and do work in very hot desert areas, and have been used for that exact purpose for well over a thousand years.
"Freedom of movement for casting" is ill defined, but constricting clothing is absolutely not what you want in very hot weather, so that's ok.
If your wizards want robes, then they can have robes. No problem

Tuareg man. I think he's wearing cotton; certainly it appears to be quite a light fabric. More info on Tuareg clothing, plus links.
(as an unrelated footnote, Tuaregs are islamic but it is the men who wear the veils)

Bedouin Sheikh. Note the black robes; when the sun is hot enough, the colour of your clothing doesn't really matter that much. White won't save you. Traditional bedouin robes were woolen, too.
And who could forget the classic strange bearded, robed guy with magical powers who lived in a desert?

(it is little bit pointless for Jedi to wear those sort of robes if they live in non-desert environments, but somewhere along the way Lucas et al confused practical clothing with a uniform)
For use outside of desert climates, robes become increasingly less attractive as the weather gets wetter. A nice woolen cloak does an excellent job of keeping the rain off, but once you get inside you'll want to take it off. You will find some robes and robe-like garments in warm, wet locations however:

(Source)
Note the off-the-shoulder motif; not so good for stopping the sun, but not as stifling in hot, high-humidity conditions. You may also note how this style is often associated with people with strange and mystical powers...
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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– GlorfSf
Jun 10 at 12:54
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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– jean
Jun 10 at 14:20
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I wish I could give you a second +1 for including space wizards in this answer.
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– Dave Sherohman
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Lots of desert people wear long robes; if the sun is punishing enough, you'll want to cover up even if you are quite dark skinned. Loose fitting airy robes help keep you cool in those sorts of conditions, and by way of a bonus stop you getting too cold too quick when the sun sets, as in deserts the nights are often cold.
I won't try and ramble on here; images are the only really interesting things, and a) I'm finding it hard to locate really nice images worth showing you (because I'm a bit rubbish at image searching) and b) really, the photos will show a bunch of people in robes in interesting places. You don't really need to see them to know that yes, robes can and do work in very hot desert areas, and have been used for that exact purpose for well over a thousand years.
"Freedom of movement for casting" is ill defined, but constricting clothing is absolutely not what you want in very hot weather, so that's ok.
If your wizards want robes, then they can have robes. No problem

Tuareg man. I think he's wearing cotton; certainly it appears to be quite a light fabric. More info on Tuareg clothing, plus links.
(as an unrelated footnote, Tuaregs are islamic but it is the men who wear the veils)

Bedouin Sheikh. Note the black robes; when the sun is hot enough, the colour of your clothing doesn't really matter that much. White won't save you. Traditional bedouin robes were woolen, too.
And who could forget the classic strange bearded, robed guy with magical powers who lived in a desert?

(it is little bit pointless for Jedi to wear those sort of robes if they live in non-desert environments, but somewhere along the way Lucas et al confused practical clothing with a uniform)
For use outside of desert climates, robes become increasingly less attractive as the weather gets wetter. A nice woolen cloak does an excellent job of keeping the rain off, but once you get inside you'll want to take it off. You will find some robes and robe-like garments in warm, wet locations however:

(Source)
Note the off-the-shoulder motif; not so good for stopping the sun, but not as stifling in hot, high-humidity conditions. You may also note how this style is often associated with people with strange and mystical powers...
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Lots of desert people wear long robes; if the sun is punishing enough, you'll want to cover up even if you are quite dark skinned. Loose fitting airy robes help keep you cool in those sorts of conditions, and by way of a bonus stop you getting too cold too quick when the sun sets, as in deserts the nights are often cold.
I won't try and ramble on here; images are the only really interesting things, and a) I'm finding it hard to locate really nice images worth showing you (because I'm a bit rubbish at image searching) and b) really, the photos will show a bunch of people in robes in interesting places. You don't really need to see them to know that yes, robes can and do work in very hot desert areas, and have been used for that exact purpose for well over a thousand years.
"Freedom of movement for casting" is ill defined, but constricting clothing is absolutely not what you want in very hot weather, so that's ok.
If your wizards want robes, then they can have robes. No problem

Tuareg man. I think he's wearing cotton; certainly it appears to be quite a light fabric. More info on Tuareg clothing, plus links.
(as an unrelated footnote, Tuaregs are islamic but it is the men who wear the veils)

Bedouin Sheikh. Note the black robes; when the sun is hot enough, the colour of your clothing doesn't really matter that much. White won't save you. Traditional bedouin robes were woolen, too.
And who could forget the classic strange bearded, robed guy with magical powers who lived in a desert?

(it is little bit pointless for Jedi to wear those sort of robes if they live in non-desert environments, but somewhere along the way Lucas et al confused practical clothing with a uniform)
For use outside of desert climates, robes become increasingly less attractive as the weather gets wetter. A nice woolen cloak does an excellent job of keeping the rain off, but once you get inside you'll want to take it off. You will find some robes and robe-like garments in warm, wet locations however:

(Source)
Note the off-the-shoulder motif; not so good for stopping the sun, but not as stifling in hot, high-humidity conditions. You may also note how this style is often associated with people with strange and mystical powers...
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answered Jun 9 at 20:18
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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– GlorfSf
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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– jean
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I wish I could give you a second +1 for including space wizards in this answer.
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– Dave Sherohman
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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– GlorfSf
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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– jean
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I wish I could give you a second +1 for including space wizards in this answer.
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– Dave Sherohman
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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– GlorfSf
Jun 10 at 12:54
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remind me of spellfencer outfit in bravely default
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– GlorfSf
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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– jean
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Most deserts are cold at night, even those are hot by day can drastically drop temperatures since what keeps the air temperature warmth at night is umidity
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– jean
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I wish I could give you a second +1 for including space wizards in this answer.
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– Dave Sherohman
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The Gandalfesque wizard is a European wizard.
Robes make sense if you are in England. If you want a wizard from a hot climate, take a look at how people in that climate dressed historically when they wanted to put on a show and impress. These Javanese performers are not wizards (I don't think) but their outfits would be great for a hot climate wizard: lots of skin, lots of ornaments, creepy masks.

You can find wizards from anywhere. Googling around found Tahitians, Khmer, Indians; use search term sorcerer and you do better with African and pre-contact Americas. There is no shortage of amazing stuff for you to copy for your fiction.
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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– Cyn
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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– Starfish Prime
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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– Starfish Prime
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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– Starfish Prime
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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– Cyn
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The Gandalfesque wizard is a European wizard.
Robes make sense if you are in England. If you want a wizard from a hot climate, take a look at how people in that climate dressed historically when they wanted to put on a show and impress. These Javanese performers are not wizards (I don't think) but their outfits would be great for a hot climate wizard: lots of skin, lots of ornaments, creepy masks.

You can find wizards from anywhere. Googling around found Tahitians, Khmer, Indians; use search term sorcerer and you do better with African and pre-contact Americas. There is no shortage of amazing stuff for you to copy for your fiction.
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 3:38
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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– Starfish Prime
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:59
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:19
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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– Cyn
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The Gandalfesque wizard is a European wizard.
Robes make sense if you are in England. If you want a wizard from a hot climate, take a look at how people in that climate dressed historically when they wanted to put on a show and impress. These Javanese performers are not wizards (I don't think) but their outfits would be great for a hot climate wizard: lots of skin, lots of ornaments, creepy masks.

You can find wizards from anywhere. Googling around found Tahitians, Khmer, Indians; use search term sorcerer and you do better with African and pre-contact Americas. There is no shortage of amazing stuff for you to copy for your fiction.
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The Gandalfesque wizard is a European wizard.
Robes make sense if you are in England. If you want a wizard from a hot climate, take a look at how people in that climate dressed historically when they wanted to put on a show and impress. These Javanese performers are not wizards (I don't think) but their outfits would be great for a hot climate wizard: lots of skin, lots of ornaments, creepy masks.

You can find wizards from anywhere. Googling around found Tahitians, Khmer, Indians; use search term sorcerer and you do better with African and pre-contact Americas. There is no shortage of amazing stuff for you to copy for your fiction.
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 3:38
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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– Starfish Prime
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:59
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:19
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 16:20
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 3:38
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:52
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:59
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:19
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 16:20
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 3:38
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Thank you for pointing out the euro-centric bias of the question and giving an alternative.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 3:38
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:52
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@Cyn Gandalf is euro-centric, but the robes come from middle eastern desert cultures (though you'll certainly find analogues much further east), none of which are currently considered particularly european. The critical difference is that deserts have a wide temperature range with cold nights, whereas these folk come from hot, wet, tropical climates where the nights aren't bitterly cold and wearing large amounts of water-absorbing fabric is downright daft.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:52
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:59
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(though that said, you will find stuff like the kasaya in warm, wet climates and associated with people who have strange, mystical powers... it does at least have an off-the-shoulder style so it'll be a bit more comfortable when the humidity is up)
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 7:59
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:19
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The oldest references I found to hooded wizards were persian magi. Have a look at this guy's robe and wand. From something like 500 BCE in what is now eastern turkey.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:19
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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– Cyn
Jun 10 at 16:20
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@StarfishPrime Yes, I could have worded it better I agree. But the basics are still correct...robes are standard "wizard wear" in a small subset of the total world's area.
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– Cyn
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The idea that a wizard wears a long robe is, surprisingly, a pretty old one. It's not a modern fantasy stereotype.
At least since the time of a Roman toga there was an implicit connection between long loose clothing and the lack of necessity to fight or work for a living.
In the 10th century the whole Europe started adopting Byzantine fashions, and we see kings in loose long robes on the miniatures, while fighting men and peasants wear shorter tunics. The Church had also adopted Byzantine fashions, so both Catholic and Orthodox priests and monks even now wear clothes that didn't change much from 10th century.
Free townspeople of high standing and scholars wore long robes in 15th century too.
In 17-19th century all the manners of loose silk robes of Eastern origin were worn as a part of domestic clothing by gentlemen of leisure, philosophers and writers. This banyan is an ancestor of a modern dressing gown and a bathrobe.
So we can conclude that the idea that an older man who doesn't need to fight or engage in other physical activity, but rather spends his time reading, writing, studying, teaching and discussing with other similar gentlemen, will wear long loose clothes, is entrenched enough in European culture that it doesn't need a reality check.
As for the materials, there are several ways to approach it. If we position medieval and not modern approach to sweat and body odor, you can continue wearing wool in a lot of environments. Ancient Greek and Roman clothes were mainly wool - and it gets pretty hot in Mediterranean. As other answers write, Bedouin clothes were traditionally wool.
If you are not afraid of your own sweat, wool is pretty comfortable when hot - maybe because it's a material more or less similar to human hair, being made from animal hair :)
Other materials like silk and cotton are already covered in other answers.
About the only environment you don't won't to wear wool in is warm and hot tropical. Buddhist monks still manage to wear long loose clothes there, even though it's rather a wraparound thingie and not a tailored robe.
UPD: as far as carrying the gear is concerned, in a medieval-ish world a wizard shouldn't carry all his gear with books and potions on his person. Just like a knight wouldn't always wear his armor and weapons. A knight would have a packhorse and a squire. A high-ranking wizard will have a mule and an apprentice to take care of that for him.
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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– Starfish Prime
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The idea that a wizard wears a long robe is, surprisingly, a pretty old one. It's not a modern fantasy stereotype.
At least since the time of a Roman toga there was an implicit connection between long loose clothing and the lack of necessity to fight or work for a living.
In the 10th century the whole Europe started adopting Byzantine fashions, and we see kings in loose long robes on the miniatures, while fighting men and peasants wear shorter tunics. The Church had also adopted Byzantine fashions, so both Catholic and Orthodox priests and monks even now wear clothes that didn't change much from 10th century.
Free townspeople of high standing and scholars wore long robes in 15th century too.
In 17-19th century all the manners of loose silk robes of Eastern origin were worn as a part of domestic clothing by gentlemen of leisure, philosophers and writers. This banyan is an ancestor of a modern dressing gown and a bathrobe.
So we can conclude that the idea that an older man who doesn't need to fight or engage in other physical activity, but rather spends his time reading, writing, studying, teaching and discussing with other similar gentlemen, will wear long loose clothes, is entrenched enough in European culture that it doesn't need a reality check.
As for the materials, there are several ways to approach it. If we position medieval and not modern approach to sweat and body odor, you can continue wearing wool in a lot of environments. Ancient Greek and Roman clothes were mainly wool - and it gets pretty hot in Mediterranean. As other answers write, Bedouin clothes were traditionally wool.
If you are not afraid of your own sweat, wool is pretty comfortable when hot - maybe because it's a material more or less similar to human hair, being made from animal hair :)
Other materials like silk and cotton are already covered in other answers.
About the only environment you don't won't to wear wool in is warm and hot tropical. Buddhist monks still manage to wear long loose clothes there, even though it's rather a wraparound thingie and not a tailored robe.
UPD: as far as carrying the gear is concerned, in a medieval-ish world a wizard shouldn't carry all his gear with books and potions on his person. Just like a knight wouldn't always wear his armor and weapons. A knight would have a packhorse and a squire. A high-ranking wizard will have a mule and an apprentice to take care of that for him.
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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– Starfish Prime
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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– Cumehtar
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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The idea that a wizard wears a long robe is, surprisingly, a pretty old one. It's not a modern fantasy stereotype.
At least since the time of a Roman toga there was an implicit connection between long loose clothing and the lack of necessity to fight or work for a living.
In the 10th century the whole Europe started adopting Byzantine fashions, and we see kings in loose long robes on the miniatures, while fighting men and peasants wear shorter tunics. The Church had also adopted Byzantine fashions, so both Catholic and Orthodox priests and monks even now wear clothes that didn't change much from 10th century.
Free townspeople of high standing and scholars wore long robes in 15th century too.
In 17-19th century all the manners of loose silk robes of Eastern origin were worn as a part of domestic clothing by gentlemen of leisure, philosophers and writers. This banyan is an ancestor of a modern dressing gown and a bathrobe.
So we can conclude that the idea that an older man who doesn't need to fight or engage in other physical activity, but rather spends his time reading, writing, studying, teaching and discussing with other similar gentlemen, will wear long loose clothes, is entrenched enough in European culture that it doesn't need a reality check.
As for the materials, there are several ways to approach it. If we position medieval and not modern approach to sweat and body odor, you can continue wearing wool in a lot of environments. Ancient Greek and Roman clothes were mainly wool - and it gets pretty hot in Mediterranean. As other answers write, Bedouin clothes were traditionally wool.
If you are not afraid of your own sweat, wool is pretty comfortable when hot - maybe because it's a material more or less similar to human hair, being made from animal hair :)
Other materials like silk and cotton are already covered in other answers.
About the only environment you don't won't to wear wool in is warm and hot tropical. Buddhist monks still manage to wear long loose clothes there, even though it's rather a wraparound thingie and not a tailored robe.
UPD: as far as carrying the gear is concerned, in a medieval-ish world a wizard shouldn't carry all his gear with books and potions on his person. Just like a knight wouldn't always wear his armor and weapons. A knight would have a packhorse and a squire. A high-ranking wizard will have a mule and an apprentice to take care of that for him.
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The idea that a wizard wears a long robe is, surprisingly, a pretty old one. It's not a modern fantasy stereotype.
At least since the time of a Roman toga there was an implicit connection between long loose clothing and the lack of necessity to fight or work for a living.
In the 10th century the whole Europe started adopting Byzantine fashions, and we see kings in loose long robes on the miniatures, while fighting men and peasants wear shorter tunics. The Church had also adopted Byzantine fashions, so both Catholic and Orthodox priests and monks even now wear clothes that didn't change much from 10th century.
Free townspeople of high standing and scholars wore long robes in 15th century too.
In 17-19th century all the manners of loose silk robes of Eastern origin were worn as a part of domestic clothing by gentlemen of leisure, philosophers and writers. This banyan is an ancestor of a modern dressing gown and a bathrobe.
So we can conclude that the idea that an older man who doesn't need to fight or engage in other physical activity, but rather spends his time reading, writing, studying, teaching and discussing with other similar gentlemen, will wear long loose clothes, is entrenched enough in European culture that it doesn't need a reality check.
As for the materials, there are several ways to approach it. If we position medieval and not modern approach to sweat and body odor, you can continue wearing wool in a lot of environments. Ancient Greek and Roman clothes were mainly wool - and it gets pretty hot in Mediterranean. As other answers write, Bedouin clothes were traditionally wool.
If you are not afraid of your own sweat, wool is pretty comfortable when hot - maybe because it's a material more or less similar to human hair, being made from animal hair :)
Other materials like silk and cotton are already covered in other answers.
About the only environment you don't won't to wear wool in is warm and hot tropical. Buddhist monks still manage to wear long loose clothes there, even though it's rather a wraparound thingie and not a tailored robe.
UPD: as far as carrying the gear is concerned, in a medieval-ish world a wizard shouldn't carry all his gear with books and potions on his person. Just like a knight wouldn't always wear his armor and weapons. A knight would have a packhorse and a squire. A high-ranking wizard will have a mule and an apprentice to take care of that for him.
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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– Starfish Prime
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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– Cumehtar
Jun 10 at 8:26
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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– Starfish Prime
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:15
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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– Cumehtar
Jun 10 at 8:26
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 9:00
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:15
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I think the "robed wizard" look came from Persian Magi (who were possibly Zoroastrians). Hard to find a reference to anything older, and they certainly seem to have been the origin of the idea of "magic" in Europe.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 8:15
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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– Cumehtar
Jun 10 at 8:26
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@StarfishPrime it's hard to pin down. 'Long robes and magical and spiritual powers' trope certainly existed by the Middle Ages. 'Eastern clothes and mystery' trope is older, true and was there at least as early as Late Roman Republic. 'Long clothes, age and respectability' is the oldest one in my opinion, and existed as early as Greeks.
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– Cumehtar
Jun 10 at 8:26
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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– Starfish Prime
Jun 10 at 9:00
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Herodotus had stuff to say about the magi, and he was clearly using a latinised version of a greek version of their name.
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– Starfish Prime
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Using popular cultural as our guide, we only need to look at Disney for the wide range of sartorial options available to the modern magic user.
The traditional robe and pointy hats are suitable for everyday wear and official events too
But, wizards are nothing if not adaptable and comfortable in any manner of dress. Here we have Merlin strutting in the latest Bermuda fashions -- ensemble by Brooks Brothers of East Hollywood.

Even a wizard as notable as Gandalf with rock the silk robe, appropriate for a night on the town or hot Arabian nights
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Using popular cultural as our guide, we only need to look at Disney for the wide range of sartorial options available to the modern magic user.
The traditional robe and pointy hats are suitable for everyday wear and official events too
But, wizards are nothing if not adaptable and comfortable in any manner of dress. Here we have Merlin strutting in the latest Bermuda fashions -- ensemble by Brooks Brothers of East Hollywood.

Even a wizard as notable as Gandalf with rock the silk robe, appropriate for a night on the town or hot Arabian nights
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Using popular cultural as our guide, we only need to look at Disney for the wide range of sartorial options available to the modern magic user.
The traditional robe and pointy hats are suitable for everyday wear and official events too
But, wizards are nothing if not adaptable and comfortable in any manner of dress. Here we have Merlin strutting in the latest Bermuda fashions -- ensemble by Brooks Brothers of East Hollywood.

Even a wizard as notable as Gandalf with rock the silk robe, appropriate for a night on the town or hot Arabian nights
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Using popular cultural as our guide, we only need to look at Disney for the wide range of sartorial options available to the modern magic user.
The traditional robe and pointy hats are suitable for everyday wear and official events too
But, wizards are nothing if not adaptable and comfortable in any manner of dress. Here we have Merlin strutting in the latest Bermuda fashions -- ensemble by Brooks Brothers of East Hollywood.

Even a wizard as notable as Gandalf with rock the silk robe, appropriate for a night on the town or hot Arabian nights
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You could look at the fashions of South American, African, SE Asian, and Pacific islander witch doctors, medicine men, shamans, sangomas, and whatever other names have been given to people claiming to use supernatural powers. Some of those are barely more than a loincloth. (With other paraphernalia added, often distinguishing their occupation: headdresses, bracelets, beads, staffs, etc. etc.)
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You could look at the fashions of South American, African, SE Asian, and Pacific islander witch doctors, medicine men, shamans, sangomas, and whatever other names have been given to people claiming to use supernatural powers. Some of those are barely more than a loincloth. (With other paraphernalia added, often distinguishing their occupation: headdresses, bracelets, beads, staffs, etc. etc.)
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You could look at the fashions of South American, African, SE Asian, and Pacific islander witch doctors, medicine men, shamans, sangomas, and whatever other names have been given to people claiming to use supernatural powers. Some of those are barely more than a loincloth. (With other paraphernalia added, often distinguishing their occupation: headdresses, bracelets, beads, staffs, etc. etc.)
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You could look at the fashions of South American, African, SE Asian, and Pacific islander witch doctors, medicine men, shamans, sangomas, and whatever other names have been given to people claiming to use supernatural powers. Some of those are barely more than a loincloth. (With other paraphernalia added, often distinguishing their occupation: headdresses, bracelets, beads, staffs, etc. etc.)
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Comfort isn't always the most important thing, looking like you are what you are is also very important.
Think of medieval royalty and rich people, their outfits didn't really change summer or winter, as the point of the clothes was to be RICH, and to let every single person know they are RICH
Is this a summer of winter outfit for for the queen, short answer both

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Comfort isn't always the most important thing, looking like you are what you are is also very important.
Think of medieval royalty and rich people, their outfits didn't really change summer or winter, as the point of the clothes was to be RICH, and to let every single person know they are RICH
Is this a summer of winter outfit for for the queen, short answer both

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Comfort isn't always the most important thing, looking like you are what you are is also very important.
Think of medieval royalty and rich people, their outfits didn't really change summer or winter, as the point of the clothes was to be RICH, and to let every single person know they are RICH
Is this a summer of winter outfit for for the queen, short answer both

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Comfort isn't always the most important thing, looking like you are what you are is also very important.
Think of medieval royalty and rich people, their outfits didn't really change summer or winter, as the point of the clothes was to be RICH, and to let every single person know they are RICH
Is this a summer of winter outfit for for the queen, short answer both

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Seriously - reality-check tag or magic tag, please chose one. Otherwise magic-heat, do you want magic-heat?
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– Don Qualm
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Though its sad to have to say this - search for art for "female wizards". As many times, artists still render them with....let's say "clothing that is way better for warm weather" than their male counterparts
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Do it like JK Rowling for Harry Potter: Forbid him to use magic in the summer holidays. :-)
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While reality-check and magic are usually mutually exclusive, I think they both worth here. The RC is for human clothing in different conditions and the magic is to indicate the person's profession (which is relevant), status, and physical activity. Remember, magic isn't just for actual magic, it's the tag we use for "fantasy." So totally relevant.
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– Cyn
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How about bermuda shorts?
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– anaximander
Jun 10 at 9:55