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The Two-Weapon Fighting rule says:




When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon
that you're holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack
with a different light melee weapon that you're holding in the other
hand. You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus
attack, unless that modifier is negative.



If either weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon,
instead of making a melee attack with it.




With Two-Weapon Fighting, I can only add my ability modifier to the damage of the first attack. Even if I get the Dual Wielder feat (PHB, p. 165), it doesn't say anything about adding the ability score to the damage.



The Crossbow Expert feat (PHB, p. 165) says:




Thanks to extensive practice with the crossbow, you gain the following
benefits:



  • You ignore the loading quality of crossbows with which you are proficient.

  • Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn’t impose disadvantage
    on your ranged attack rolls.

  • When you use the Attack action and attack with a one-handed weapon,
    you can use a bonus action to attack with a loaded hand crossbow you
    are holding.



When I attack using the bonus action granted by Crossbow Expert, do I add my ability modifier to the damage? I don't know whether I should follow the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, or roll damage as for a normal weapon attack.










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The Two-Weapon Fighting rule says:




When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon
that you're holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack
with a different light melee weapon that you're holding in the other
hand. You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus
attack, unless that modifier is negative.



If either weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon,
instead of making a melee attack with it.




With Two-Weapon Fighting, I can only add my ability modifier to the damage of the first attack. Even if I get the Dual Wielder feat (PHB, p. 165), it doesn't say anything about adding the ability score to the damage.



The Crossbow Expert feat (PHB, p. 165) says:




Thanks to extensive practice with the crossbow, you gain the following
benefits:



  • You ignore the loading quality of crossbows with which you are proficient.

  • Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn’t impose disadvantage
    on your ranged attack rolls.

  • When you use the Attack action and attack with a one-handed weapon,
    you can use a bonus action to attack with a loaded hand crossbow you
    are holding.



When I attack using the bonus action granted by Crossbow Expert, do I add my ability modifier to the damage? I don't know whether I should follow the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, or roll damage as for a normal weapon attack.










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The Two-Weapon Fighting rule says:




When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon
that you're holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack
with a different light melee weapon that you're holding in the other
hand. You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus
attack, unless that modifier is negative.



If either weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon,
instead of making a melee attack with it.




With Two-Weapon Fighting, I can only add my ability modifier to the damage of the first attack. Even if I get the Dual Wielder feat (PHB, p. 165), it doesn't say anything about adding the ability score to the damage.



The Crossbow Expert feat (PHB, p. 165) says:




Thanks to extensive practice with the crossbow, you gain the following
benefits:



  • You ignore the loading quality of crossbows with which you are proficient.

  • Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn’t impose disadvantage
    on your ranged attack rolls.

  • When you use the Attack action and attack with a one-handed weapon,
    you can use a bonus action to attack with a loaded hand crossbow you
    are holding.



When I attack using the bonus action granted by Crossbow Expert, do I add my ability modifier to the damage? I don't know whether I should follow the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, or roll damage as for a normal weapon attack.










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The Two-Weapon Fighting rule says:




When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon
that you're holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack
with a different light melee weapon that you're holding in the other
hand. You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus
attack, unless that modifier is negative.



If either weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon,
instead of making a melee attack with it.




With Two-Weapon Fighting, I can only add my ability modifier to the damage of the first attack. Even if I get the Dual Wielder feat (PHB, p. 165), it doesn't say anything about adding the ability score to the damage.



The Crossbow Expert feat (PHB, p. 165) says:




Thanks to extensive practice with the crossbow, you gain the following
benefits:



  • You ignore the loading quality of crossbows with which you are proficient.

  • Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn’t impose disadvantage
    on your ranged attack rolls.

  • When you use the Attack action and attack with a one-handed weapon,
    you can use a bonus action to attack with a loaded hand crossbow you
    are holding.



When I attack using the bonus action granted by Crossbow Expert, do I add my ability modifier to the damage? I don't know whether I should follow the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, or roll damage as for a normal weapon attack.







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You can add your ability modifier to damage from the bonus action attack



The general rule for damage rolls is:




When attacking with a weapon, you add your ability modifier--the same modifier used for the attack roll--to the damage.




In short: You can add your ability modifier to your crossbow attack because nothing tells you that you cannot.



Unofficial guidance from Jeremy Crawford (5e's lead rules designer), which some may consider authoritative, agrees with this interpretation:




When making a weapon attack, you add your ability modifier to the damage, unless a feature tells you not to.




So far, so good.



But, does this rule for two-weapon fighting, which also grants a bonus action, confuse matters?




You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus attack, unless that modifier is negative.




Dont worry - this rule can be safely ignored. The bonus action granted by the Crossbow Expert feat is not the same as the bonus action granted by two-weapon fighting. Thus the two-weapon fighting rules are completely irrelevant to your situation.






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    This also follows from the general rule philosophy of 5e - "There are no hidden rules". Two-Weapon Fighting and Crossbow Expert describe what they do in full - no 'hidden' rules about one would exist in the other.
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Yes, because it's not Two-Weapon Fighting.



As you correctly point out, the rules for using a hand crossbow with Crossbow Expert don't mention losing out on your stat bonus. Since using your off-hand crossbow in this way doesn't actually use the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, you don't need to refer to them at all when using Crossbow Expert.



Since Crossbow Expert effectively gives you an entirely new way of spending your bonus action to attack, you get your full ability modifier to damage.






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    The other answers are correct but they fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons. The only way that the rules for dual weapon could apply to your hand crossbow would be if you swung the crossbow itself at somebody as an improvised club.



    So long as you are using the crossbow as a ranged weapon to fire crossbow bolts at enemies, the 2 weapon style rule does not apply and you only need to worry about the rules of the feat that allows you to fire it as a bonus action.






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    You can add your ability modifier to damage from the bonus action attack



    The general rule for damage rolls is:




    When attacking with a weapon, you add your ability modifier--the same modifier used for the attack roll--to the damage.




    In short: You can add your ability modifier to your crossbow attack because nothing tells you that you cannot.



    Unofficial guidance from Jeremy Crawford (5e's lead rules designer), which some may consider authoritative, agrees with this interpretation:




    When making a weapon attack, you add your ability modifier to the damage, unless a feature tells you not to.




    So far, so good.



    But, does this rule for two-weapon fighting, which also grants a bonus action, confuse matters?




    You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus attack, unless that modifier is negative.




    Dont worry - this rule can be safely ignored. The bonus action granted by the Crossbow Expert feat is not the same as the bonus action granted by two-weapon fighting. Thus the two-weapon fighting rules are completely irrelevant to your situation.






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      This also follows from the general rule philosophy of 5e - "There are no hidden rules". Two-Weapon Fighting and Crossbow Expert describe what they do in full - no 'hidden' rules about one would exist in the other.
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    You can add your ability modifier to damage from the bonus action attack



    The general rule for damage rolls is:




    When attacking with a weapon, you add your ability modifier--the same modifier used for the attack roll--to the damage.




    In short: You can add your ability modifier to your crossbow attack because nothing tells you that you cannot.



    Unofficial guidance from Jeremy Crawford (5e's lead rules designer), which some may consider authoritative, agrees with this interpretation:




    When making a weapon attack, you add your ability modifier to the damage, unless a feature tells you not to.




    So far, so good.



    But, does this rule for two-weapon fighting, which also grants a bonus action, confuse matters?




    You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus attack, unless that modifier is negative.




    Dont worry - this rule can be safely ignored. The bonus action granted by the Crossbow Expert feat is not the same as the bonus action granted by two-weapon fighting. Thus the two-weapon fighting rules are completely irrelevant to your situation.






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      This also follows from the general rule philosophy of 5e - "There are no hidden rules". Two-Weapon Fighting and Crossbow Expert describe what they do in full - no 'hidden' rules about one would exist in the other.
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    You can add your ability modifier to damage from the bonus action attack



    The general rule for damage rolls is:




    When attacking with a weapon, you add your ability modifier--the same modifier used for the attack roll--to the damage.




    In short: You can add your ability modifier to your crossbow attack because nothing tells you that you cannot.



    Unofficial guidance from Jeremy Crawford (5e's lead rules designer), which some may consider authoritative, agrees with this interpretation:




    When making a weapon attack, you add your ability modifier to the damage, unless a feature tells you not to.




    So far, so good.



    But, does this rule for two-weapon fighting, which also grants a bonus action, confuse matters?




    You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus attack, unless that modifier is negative.




    Dont worry - this rule can be safely ignored. The bonus action granted by the Crossbow Expert feat is not the same as the bonus action granted by two-weapon fighting. Thus the two-weapon fighting rules are completely irrelevant to your situation.






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    You can add your ability modifier to damage from the bonus action attack



    The general rule for damage rolls is:




    When attacking with a weapon, you add your ability modifier--the same modifier used for the attack roll--to the damage.




    In short: You can add your ability modifier to your crossbow attack because nothing tells you that you cannot.



    Unofficial guidance from Jeremy Crawford (5e's lead rules designer), which some may consider authoritative, agrees with this interpretation:




    When making a weapon attack, you add your ability modifier to the damage, unless a feature tells you not to.




    So far, so good.



    But, does this rule for two-weapon fighting, which also grants a bonus action, confuse matters?




    You don't add your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus attack, unless that modifier is negative.




    Dont worry - this rule can be safely ignored. The bonus action granted by the Crossbow Expert feat is not the same as the bonus action granted by two-weapon fighting. Thus the two-weapon fighting rules are completely irrelevant to your situation.







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    Yes, because it's not Two-Weapon Fighting.



    As you correctly point out, the rules for using a hand crossbow with Crossbow Expert don't mention losing out on your stat bonus. Since using your off-hand crossbow in this way doesn't actually use the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, you don't need to refer to them at all when using Crossbow Expert.



    Since Crossbow Expert effectively gives you an entirely new way of spending your bonus action to attack, you get your full ability modifier to damage.






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      $begingroup$

      Yes, because it's not Two-Weapon Fighting.



      As you correctly point out, the rules for using a hand crossbow with Crossbow Expert don't mention losing out on your stat bonus. Since using your off-hand crossbow in this way doesn't actually use the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, you don't need to refer to them at all when using Crossbow Expert.



      Since Crossbow Expert effectively gives you an entirely new way of spending your bonus action to attack, you get your full ability modifier to damage.






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        $begingroup$

        Yes, because it's not Two-Weapon Fighting.



        As you correctly point out, the rules for using a hand crossbow with Crossbow Expert don't mention losing out on your stat bonus. Since using your off-hand crossbow in this way doesn't actually use the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, you don't need to refer to them at all when using Crossbow Expert.



        Since Crossbow Expert effectively gives you an entirely new way of spending your bonus action to attack, you get your full ability modifier to damage.






        share|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Yes, because it's not Two-Weapon Fighting.



        As you correctly point out, the rules for using a hand crossbow with Crossbow Expert don't mention losing out on your stat bonus. Since using your off-hand crossbow in this way doesn't actually use the Two-Weapon Fighting rules, you don't need to refer to them at all when using Crossbow Expert.



        Since Crossbow Expert effectively gives you an entirely new way of spending your bonus action to attack, you get your full ability modifier to damage.







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        answered May 30 at 7:02









        DuckTapeAlDuckTapeAl

        39.1k9134229




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            1












            $begingroup$

            The other answers are correct but they fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons. The only way that the rules for dual weapon could apply to your hand crossbow would be if you swung the crossbow itself at somebody as an improvised club.



            So long as you are using the crossbow as a ranged weapon to fire crossbow bolts at enemies, the 2 weapon style rule does not apply and you only need to worry about the rules of the feat that allows you to fire it as a bonus action.






            share|improve this answer









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            • $begingroup$
              I normally don't care, but in this case I am curious why somebody downvoted this answer. Is this an actual disagreement with my interpretation of the rules?
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 14:55






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I didn't downvote, but I also didn't upvote because while you are very right, you didn't support it with the relevant rules citations. TIggerous kind of addresses it in their last sentence.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:18











            • $begingroup$
              I see what you mean, but in this case the relevant rules are quoted in the actual question.
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 15:32






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              DuckTapeAl also covers this,so I'm not sure that it's exlicitly not covered in their answer. But even then, I usually reference "as you've quoted" in answers that have the relevant quotes in the question (I didn't upvote Al's answer either because of this, too.) But you asked, and I answered. How you want to proceed is up to you :) - although i don't know why someone downvoted.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:33







            • 2




              $begingroup$
              "The other answers [...] fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons." - The TWF rules are irrelevant not because of the weapon type that the feat lets you make a bonus-action attack with - but because the feat is what's letting you make that bonus-action attack, not TWF. Even if the feat let you make a bonus-action attack with a specific melee weapon (e.g. a spear), it still wouldn't relate to TWF, because the feat is what grants you the ability to make that attack, not TWF.
              $endgroup$
              – V2Blast
              May 30 at 22:07
















            1












            $begingroup$

            The other answers are correct but they fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons. The only way that the rules for dual weapon could apply to your hand crossbow would be if you swung the crossbow itself at somebody as an improvised club.



            So long as you are using the crossbow as a ranged weapon to fire crossbow bolts at enemies, the 2 weapon style rule does not apply and you only need to worry about the rules of the feat that allows you to fire it as a bonus action.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$












            • $begingroup$
              I normally don't care, but in this case I am curious why somebody downvoted this answer. Is this an actual disagreement with my interpretation of the rules?
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 14:55






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I didn't downvote, but I also didn't upvote because while you are very right, you didn't support it with the relevant rules citations. TIggerous kind of addresses it in their last sentence.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:18











            • $begingroup$
              I see what you mean, but in this case the relevant rules are quoted in the actual question.
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 15:32






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              DuckTapeAl also covers this,so I'm not sure that it's exlicitly not covered in their answer. But even then, I usually reference "as you've quoted" in answers that have the relevant quotes in the question (I didn't upvote Al's answer either because of this, too.) But you asked, and I answered. How you want to proceed is up to you :) - although i don't know why someone downvoted.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:33







            • 2




              $begingroup$
              "The other answers [...] fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons." - The TWF rules are irrelevant not because of the weapon type that the feat lets you make a bonus-action attack with - but because the feat is what's letting you make that bonus-action attack, not TWF. Even if the feat let you make a bonus-action attack with a specific melee weapon (e.g. a spear), it still wouldn't relate to TWF, because the feat is what grants you the ability to make that attack, not TWF.
              $endgroup$
              – V2Blast
              May 30 at 22:07














            1












            1








            1





            $begingroup$

            The other answers are correct but they fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons. The only way that the rules for dual weapon could apply to your hand crossbow would be if you swung the crossbow itself at somebody as an improvised club.



            So long as you are using the crossbow as a ranged weapon to fire crossbow bolts at enemies, the 2 weapon style rule does not apply and you only need to worry about the rules of the feat that allows you to fire it as a bonus action.






            share|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            The other answers are correct but they fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons. The only way that the rules for dual weapon could apply to your hand crossbow would be if you swung the crossbow itself at somebody as an improvised club.



            So long as you are using the crossbow as a ranged weapon to fire crossbow bolts at enemies, the 2 weapon style rule does not apply and you only need to worry about the rules of the feat that allows you to fire it as a bonus action.







            share|improve this answer












            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer










            answered May 30 at 14:03









            krbkrb

            2,212415




            2,212415











            • $begingroup$
              I normally don't care, but in this case I am curious why somebody downvoted this answer. Is this an actual disagreement with my interpretation of the rules?
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 14:55






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I didn't downvote, but I also didn't upvote because while you are very right, you didn't support it with the relevant rules citations. TIggerous kind of addresses it in their last sentence.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:18











            • $begingroup$
              I see what you mean, but in this case the relevant rules are quoted in the actual question.
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 15:32






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              DuckTapeAl also covers this,so I'm not sure that it's exlicitly not covered in their answer. But even then, I usually reference "as you've quoted" in answers that have the relevant quotes in the question (I didn't upvote Al's answer either because of this, too.) But you asked, and I answered. How you want to proceed is up to you :) - although i don't know why someone downvoted.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:33







            • 2




              $begingroup$
              "The other answers [...] fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons." - The TWF rules are irrelevant not because of the weapon type that the feat lets you make a bonus-action attack with - but because the feat is what's letting you make that bonus-action attack, not TWF. Even if the feat let you make a bonus-action attack with a specific melee weapon (e.g. a spear), it still wouldn't relate to TWF, because the feat is what grants you the ability to make that attack, not TWF.
              $endgroup$
              – V2Blast
              May 30 at 22:07

















            • $begingroup$
              I normally don't care, but in this case I am curious why somebody downvoted this answer. Is this an actual disagreement with my interpretation of the rules?
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 14:55






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              I didn't downvote, but I also didn't upvote because while you are very right, you didn't support it with the relevant rules citations. TIggerous kind of addresses it in their last sentence.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:18











            • $begingroup$
              I see what you mean, but in this case the relevant rules are quoted in the actual question.
              $endgroup$
              – krb
              May 30 at 15:32






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              DuckTapeAl also covers this,so I'm not sure that it's exlicitly not covered in their answer. But even then, I usually reference "as you've quoted" in answers that have the relevant quotes in the question (I didn't upvote Al's answer either because of this, too.) But you asked, and I answered. How you want to proceed is up to you :) - although i don't know why someone downvoted.
              $endgroup$
              – NautArch
              May 30 at 15:33







            • 2




              $begingroup$
              "The other answers [...] fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons." - The TWF rules are irrelevant not because of the weapon type that the feat lets you make a bonus-action attack with - but because the feat is what's letting you make that bonus-action attack, not TWF. Even if the feat let you make a bonus-action attack with a specific melee weapon (e.g. a spear), it still wouldn't relate to TWF, because the feat is what grants you the ability to make that attack, not TWF.
              $endgroup$
              – V2Blast
              May 30 at 22:07
















            $begingroup$
            I normally don't care, but in this case I am curious why somebody downvoted this answer. Is this an actual disagreement with my interpretation of the rules?
            $endgroup$
            – krb
            May 30 at 14:55




            $begingroup$
            I normally don't care, but in this case I am curious why somebody downvoted this answer. Is this an actual disagreement with my interpretation of the rules?
            $endgroup$
            – krb
            May 30 at 14:55




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            I didn't downvote, but I also didn't upvote because while you are very right, you didn't support it with the relevant rules citations. TIggerous kind of addresses it in their last sentence.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 30 at 15:18





            $begingroup$
            I didn't downvote, but I also didn't upvote because while you are very right, you didn't support it with the relevant rules citations. TIggerous kind of addresses it in their last sentence.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 30 at 15:18













            $begingroup$
            I see what you mean, but in this case the relevant rules are quoted in the actual question.
            $endgroup$
            – krb
            May 30 at 15:32




            $begingroup$
            I see what you mean, but in this case the relevant rules are quoted in the actual question.
            $endgroup$
            – krb
            May 30 at 15:32




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            DuckTapeAl also covers this,so I'm not sure that it's exlicitly not covered in their answer. But even then, I usually reference "as you've quoted" in answers that have the relevant quotes in the question (I didn't upvote Al's answer either because of this, too.) But you asked, and I answered. How you want to proceed is up to you :) - although i don't know why someone downvoted.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 30 at 15:33





            $begingroup$
            DuckTapeAl also covers this,so I'm not sure that it's exlicitly not covered in their answer. But even then, I usually reference "as you've quoted" in answers that have the relevant quotes in the question (I didn't upvote Al's answer either because of this, too.) But you asked, and I answered. How you want to proceed is up to you :) - although i don't know why someone downvoted.
            $endgroup$
            – NautArch
            May 30 at 15:33





            2




            2




            $begingroup$
            "The other answers [...] fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons." - The TWF rules are irrelevant not because of the weapon type that the feat lets you make a bonus-action attack with - but because the feat is what's letting you make that bonus-action attack, not TWF. Even if the feat let you make a bonus-action attack with a specific melee weapon (e.g. a spear), it still wouldn't relate to TWF, because the feat is what grants you the ability to make that attack, not TWF.
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            May 30 at 22:07





            $begingroup$
            "The other answers [...] fail to explicitly state the factor that makes them correct: The rules for 2-weapon style do not apply in this case because they only apply to melee weapons." - The TWF rules are irrelevant not because of the weapon type that the feat lets you make a bonus-action attack with - but because the feat is what's letting you make that bonus-action attack, not TWF. Even if the feat let you make a bonus-action attack with a specific melee weapon (e.g. a spear), it still wouldn't relate to TWF, because the feat is what grants you the ability to make that attack, not TWF.
            $endgroup$
            – V2Blast
            May 30 at 22:07











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