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I recently learned that some former MELPA libraries are now available only from the EmacsWiki.

Let aside security implications,

Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

Any best practice suggested to deal with EmacsWiki libraries?

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I recently learned that some former MELPA libraries are now available only from the EmacsWiki.

Let aside security implications,

Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

Any best practice suggested to deal with EmacsWiki libraries?

package emacs-wiki

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I recently learned that some former MELPA libraries are now available only from the EmacsWiki.

Let aside security implications,

Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

Any best practice suggested to deal with EmacsWiki libraries?

package emacs-wiki

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asked Jun 2 at 1:44

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Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

The el-get package manager supports installation from the EmacsWiki; after doing M-x el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes, M-x el-get-list-packages will show packages from EmacsWiki as well.

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

(el-get-bundle foo) would be approximately equivalent.

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answered Jun 2 at 12:10

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  +1. Good to know. I didn't realize that el-get works with Emacs-Wiki libraries also.
  
  – Drew
  Jun 2 at 14:22
  

  
  
  
  


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  I tried to add to my init (use-package el-get :config (el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes)) (el-get-bundle dired+). However, el-get-bundle raises an error, when generating autoloads and byte-compiling the autoload file, because dired-omit-files is void. A hack would be to (setq dired-omit-files nil), but clearly there should be a proper way.
  
  – antonio
  Jun 3 at 7:55
  

  
  
  
  


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  @antonio oh, you have to load el-get before using el-get-bundle (because it's a macro), you can't start using it in the same statement that you load it. Maybe try (el-get nil 'dired+) instead. And el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes takes a long time, you probably don't want to run it every time you startup.
  
  – npostavs
  Jun 3 at 11:47
  

  
  
  
  


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  As regards (el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes), use-package :config is clever enough to run it only the first time. Still (el-get nil 'dired+) gives error in process sentinel: Symbol’s value as variable is void: dired-omit-files. The mentioned variable is part part of dired (not dired+), which is not loaded by el-get. Byte-compiling dired+ works, so the problem is in the way el-get installs dired+.
  
  – antonio
  Jun 3 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


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  @antonio oh, I misread the error in your first comment. I think it's due to dired+ misusing ;;;###autoload. You can work around it with (add-to-list 'el-get-sources '(:name dired+ :autoloads nil)) before the (el-get nil 'dired+) call, or using el-get-bundle: (el-get-bundle dired+ :autoloads nil).
  
  – npostavs
  Jun 3 at 20:48
  

  
  
  
  

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1. No. As far as I know, there is no equivalent of package-list-packages or use-package for libraries uploaded to the Emacs Wiki Elisp Area. In general, you download the file(s) for a library to a local directory that is in your load-path, and then require the library feature name or main-file name (e.g. (require 'isearch+).




2. Questions about things such as best practice are off-topic on emacs.SE, as they are generally primarily opinion-based or too broad. Questions here should be specific and call for specific answers.




3. Anyone can upload code to Emacs Wiki. As a result, the code there is variable in what it does, how it does it, and perhaps how well it does it. As is true in general elsewhere, it's a good idea to take a look at code you download before using it, and preferably take a look at any associated doc there may be for it.

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answered Jun 2 at 2:17

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  Please consider moving your comment to @npostavs's answer about elget. My answer only speaks about downloading libraries to a local directory that you add to your load-path, and then require-ing those libraries. Doing that, I think you will encounter no such problem.
  
  – Drew
  Jun 3 at 3:40
  

  
  
  
  


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  Hey, @Drew, as you are the author of by far the largest number of useful libraries on EmacsWiki (thank you!), can you explain why you choose that as your publishing mechanism?
  
  – Phil Hudson
  Jun 4 at 23:14
  

  
  
  
  


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  @PhilHudson: Laziness. See reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/7vocqa/….
  
  – Drew
  Jun 4 at 23:20
  

  
  
  
  

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Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

The el-get package manager supports installation from the EmacsWiki; after doing M-x el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes, M-x el-get-list-packages will show packages from EmacsWiki as well.

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

(el-get-bundle foo) would be approximately equivalent.

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 12:10

npostavsnpostavs

7,00111237

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  +1. Good to know. I didn't realize that el-get works with Emacs-Wiki libraries also.
  
  – Drew
  Jun 2 at 14:22
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I tried to add to my init (use-package el-get :config (el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes)) (el-get-bundle dired+). However, el-get-bundle raises an error, when generating autoloads and byte-compiling the autoload file, because dired-omit-files is void. A hack would be to (setq dired-omit-files nil), but clearly there should be a proper way.
  
  – antonio
  Jun 3 at 7:55
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @antonio oh, you have to load el-get before using el-get-bundle (because it's a macro), you can't start using it in the same statement that you load it. Maybe try (el-get nil 'dired+) instead. And el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes takes a long time, you probably don't want to run it every time you startup.
  
  – npostavs
  Jun 3 at 11:47
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  As regards (el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes), use-package :config is clever enough to run it only the first time. Still (el-get nil 'dired+) gives error in process sentinel: Symbol’s value as variable is void: dired-omit-files. The mentioned variable is part part of dired (not dired+), which is not loaded by el-get. Byte-compiling dired+ works, so the problem is in the way el-get installs dired+.
  
  – antonio
  Jun 3 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @antonio oh, I misread the error in your first comment. I think it's due to dired+ misusing ;;;###autoload. You can work around it with (add-to-list 'el-get-sources '(:name dired+ :autoloads nil)) before the (el-get nil 'dired+) call, or using el-get-bundle: (el-get-bundle dired+ :autoloads nil).
  
  – npostavs
  Jun 3 at 20:48
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 2 more comments

5

Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

The el-get package manager supports installation from the EmacsWiki; after doing M-x el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes, M-x el-get-list-packages will show packages from EmacsWiki as well.

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

(el-get-bundle foo) would be approximately equivalent.

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 12:10

npostavsnpostavs

7,00111237

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  +1. Good to know. I didn't realize that el-get works with Emacs-Wiki libraries also.
  
  – Drew
  Jun 2 at 14:22
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I tried to add to my init (use-package el-get :config (el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes)) (el-get-bundle dired+). However, el-get-bundle raises an error, when generating autoloads and byte-compiling the autoload file, because dired-omit-files is void. A hack would be to (setq dired-omit-files nil), but clearly there should be a proper way.
  
  – antonio
  Jun 3 at 7:55
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @antonio oh, you have to load el-get before using el-get-bundle (because it's a macro), you can't start using it in the same statement that you load it. Maybe try (el-get nil 'dired+) instead. And el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes takes a long time, you probably don't want to run it every time you startup.
  
  – npostavs
  Jun 3 at 11:47
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  As regards (el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes), use-package :config is clever enough to run it only the first time. Still (el-get nil 'dired+) gives error in process sentinel: Symbol’s value as variable is void: dired-omit-files. The mentioned variable is part part of dired (not dired+), which is not loaded by el-get. Byte-compiling dired+ works, so the problem is in the way el-get installs dired+.
  
  – antonio
  Jun 3 at 14:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @antonio oh, I misread the error in your first comment. I think it's due to dired+ misusing ;;;###autoload. You can work around it with (add-to-list 'el-get-sources '(:name dired+ :autoloads nil)) before the (el-get nil 'dired+) call, or using el-get-bundle: (el-get-bundle dired+ :autoloads nil).
  
  – npostavs
  Jun 3 at 20:48
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 2 more comments

Is there an equivalent of M-x package-list-packages for those libraries?

The el-get package manager supports installation from the EmacsWiki; after doing M-x el-get-emacswiki-build-local-recipes, M-x el-get-list-packages will show packages from EmacsWiki as well.

Is there an equivalent of (use-package foo), which I could put in my init file?

(el-get-bundle foo) would be approximately equivalent.

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 12:10

npostavsnpostavs

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answered Jun 2 at 12:10

npostavsnpostavs

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answered Jun 2 at 12:10

npostavsnpostavs

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answered Jun 2 at 12:10

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1

1. No. As far as I know, there is no equivalent of package-list-packages or use-package for libraries uploaded to the Emacs Wiki Elisp Area. In general, you download the file(s) for a library to a local directory that is in your load-path, and then require the library feature name or main-file name (e.g. (require 'isearch+).




2. Questions about things such as best practice are off-topic on emacs.SE, as they are generally primarily opinion-based or too broad. Questions here should be specific and call for specific answers.




3. Anyone can upload code to Emacs Wiki. As a result, the code there is variable in what it does, how it does it, and perhaps how well it does it. As is true in general elsewhere, it's a good idea to take a look at code you download before using it, and preferably take a look at any associated doc there may be for it.

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 2:17

DrewDrew

49.5k465111

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Please consider moving your comment to @npostavs's answer about elget. My answer only speaks about downloading libraries to a local directory that you add to your load-path, and then require-ing those libraries. Doing that, I think you will encounter no such problem.
  
  – Drew
  Jun 3 at 3:40
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hey, @Drew, as you are the author of by far the largest number of useful libraries on EmacsWiki (thank you!), can you explain why you choose that as your publishing mechanism?
  
  – Phil Hudson
  Jun 4 at 23:14
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @PhilHudson: Laziness. See reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/7vocqa/….
  
  – Drew
  Jun 4 at 23:20
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

1. No. As far as I know, there is no equivalent of package-list-packages or use-package for libraries uploaded to the Emacs Wiki Elisp Area. In general, you download the file(s) for a library to a local directory that is in your load-path, and then require the library feature name or main-file name (e.g. (require 'isearch+).




2. Questions about things such as best practice are off-topic on emacs.SE, as they are generally primarily opinion-based or too broad. Questions here should be specific and call for specific answers.




3. Anyone can upload code to Emacs Wiki. As a result, the code there is variable in what it does, how it does it, and perhaps how well it does it. As is true in general elsewhere, it's a good idea to take a look at code you download before using it, and preferably take a look at any associated doc there may be for it.

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 2:17

DrewDrew

49.5k465111

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Please consider moving your comment to @npostavs's answer about elget. My answer only speaks about downloading libraries to a local directory that you add to your load-path, and then require-ing those libraries. Doing that, I think you will encounter no such problem.
  
  – Drew
  Jun 3 at 3:40
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hey, @Drew, as you are the author of by far the largest number of useful libraries on EmacsWiki (thank you!), can you explain why you choose that as your publishing mechanism?
  
  – Phil Hudson
  Jun 4 at 23:14
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @PhilHudson: Laziness. See reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/7vocqa/….
  
  – Drew
  Jun 4 at 23:20
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1. No. As far as I know, there is no equivalent of package-list-packages or use-package for libraries uploaded to the Emacs Wiki Elisp Area. In general, you download the file(s) for a library to a local directory that is in your load-path, and then require the library feature name or main-file name (e.g. (require 'isearch+).




2. Questions about things such as best practice are off-topic on emacs.SE, as they are generally primarily opinion-based or too broad. Questions here should be specific and call for specific answers.




3. Anyone can upload code to Emacs Wiki. As a result, the code there is variable in what it does, how it does it, and perhaps how well it does it. As is true in general elsewhere, it's a good idea to take a look at code you download before using it, and preferably take a look at any associated doc there may be for it.

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 2:17

DrewDrew

49.5k465111

share|improve this answer

answered Jun 2 at 2:17

DrewDrew

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answered Jun 2 at 2:17

DrewDrew

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answered Jun 2 at 2:17

DrewDrew

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