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Which verb form to use with “с”


Impersonal Construction: Dative or Accusative?Use of genitive, prepositional, and instrumental cases in RussianNoun case and pluralityActive voice, passive voice, adjectives transforming into verbsWhy is “час” in genitive plural in Он работает с двух часов?Expression of number of peopleAdjective in singular, noun in pluralUse of instrumental with был/быть, e.g. “Ты был забавным.”Different 'number' in verb of relative clause using которыйWhy are the endings in “я студентка” and “я была студенткой” different?













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This was from my textbook and its confusing me:




  1. Tanya went to the country with a friend - Таня ездила в деревню с другом



Why is it ездила and not ездили? Aren't Tanya AND a friend going, which would make it plural?



Another example from my textbook uses the plural past tense:




  1. Лена с Шариком пришли от ветеринара



Can anyone explain why in the first case its the singular form and in the second case its in the plural form ?










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    This was from my textbook and its confusing me:




    1. Tanya went to the country with a friend - Таня ездила в деревню с другом



    Why is it ездила and not ездили? Aren't Tanya AND a friend going, which would make it plural?



    Another example from my textbook uses the plural past tense:




    1. Лена с Шариком пришли от ветеринара



    Can anyone explain why in the first case its the singular form and in the second case its in the plural form ?










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      This was from my textbook and its confusing me:




      1. Tanya went to the country with a friend - Таня ездила в деревню с другом



      Why is it ездила and not ездили? Aren't Tanya AND a friend going, which would make it plural?



      Another example from my textbook uses the plural past tense:




      1. Лена с Шариком пришли от ветеринара



      Can anyone explain why in the first case its the singular form and in the second case its in the plural form ?










      share|improve this question














      This was from my textbook and its confusing me:




      1. Tanya went to the country with a friend - Таня ездила в деревню с другом



      Why is it ездила and not ездили? Aren't Tanya AND a friend going, which would make it plural?



      Another example from my textbook uses the plural past tense:




      1. Лена с Шариком пришли от ветеринара



      Can anyone explain why in the first case its the singular form and in the second case its in the plural form ?







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          I believe it's



          1. Because in the 1st sentence the predicate immediately follows the subject bringing it into the focus, therefore singular sounds more natural.

          2. Because the idea is that it's Таня who went to the country, the presence of the friend is only secondary.

          This word order would also fit an answer to the question С кем Таня ездила в деревню? in which case the predicate form is predetermined by the question.



          On the other hand if the predicate followed both the subject and the complement, more natural (in my opinion) would be the plural form




          Таня с другом ездили в деревню.




          which is kind of corroborated by your 2nd example.



          This is a straightforward declarative sentence word order.



          So the word order may depend on the idea the speaker/author is trying to convey, on their decision what part to emphasize.






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            In sentence 1 only Таня is the subject while the words с другом just describe the details of verb's action (went with whom).



            In sentence 2 Лена с Шариком is a compound subject (Лена is a nominal subject in the Nominative case + с Шариком is a nominal subject in the Instrumental case) which can be referred to as они (plural), so the parts of the subject 'participate' in a joint action:




            Составное подлежащее:
            именное подлежащее в именительном падеже +
            именное подлежащее в форме творительного падежа с предлогом «с»
            (значение совместности):



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              I believe it's



              1. Because in the 1st sentence the predicate immediately follows the subject bringing it into the focus, therefore singular sounds more natural.

              2. Because the idea is that it's Таня who went to the country, the presence of the friend is only secondary.

              This word order would also fit an answer to the question С кем Таня ездила в деревню? in which case the predicate form is predetermined by the question.



              On the other hand if the predicate followed both the subject and the complement, more natural (in my opinion) would be the plural form




              Таня с другом ездили в деревню.




              which is kind of corroborated by your 2nd example.



              This is a straightforward declarative sentence word order.



              So the word order may depend on the idea the speaker/author is trying to convey, on their decision what part to emphasize.






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                I believe it's



                1. Because in the 1st sentence the predicate immediately follows the subject bringing it into the focus, therefore singular sounds more natural.

                2. Because the idea is that it's Таня who went to the country, the presence of the friend is only secondary.

                This word order would also fit an answer to the question С кем Таня ездила в деревню? in which case the predicate form is predetermined by the question.



                On the other hand if the predicate followed both the subject and the complement, more natural (in my opinion) would be the plural form




                Таня с другом ездили в деревню.




                which is kind of corroborated by your 2nd example.



                This is a straightforward declarative sentence word order.



                So the word order may depend on the idea the speaker/author is trying to convey, on their decision what part to emphasize.






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                  I believe it's



                  1. Because in the 1st sentence the predicate immediately follows the subject bringing it into the focus, therefore singular sounds more natural.

                  2. Because the idea is that it's Таня who went to the country, the presence of the friend is only secondary.

                  This word order would also fit an answer to the question С кем Таня ездила в деревню? in which case the predicate form is predetermined by the question.



                  On the other hand if the predicate followed both the subject and the complement, more natural (in my opinion) would be the plural form




                  Таня с другом ездили в деревню.




                  which is kind of corroborated by your 2nd example.



                  This is a straightforward declarative sentence word order.



                  So the word order may depend on the idea the speaker/author is trying to convey, on their decision what part to emphasize.






                  share|improve this answer















                  I believe it's



                  1. Because in the 1st sentence the predicate immediately follows the subject bringing it into the focus, therefore singular sounds more natural.

                  2. Because the idea is that it's Таня who went to the country, the presence of the friend is only secondary.

                  This word order would also fit an answer to the question С кем Таня ездила в деревню? in which case the predicate form is predetermined by the question.



                  On the other hand if the predicate followed both the subject and the complement, more natural (in my opinion) would be the plural form




                  Таня с другом ездили в деревню.




                  which is kind of corroborated by your 2nd example.



                  This is a straightforward declarative sentence word order.



                  So the word order may depend on the idea the speaker/author is trying to convey, on their decision what part to emphasize.







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                      In sentence 1 only Таня is the subject while the words с другом just describe the details of verb's action (went with whom).



                      In sentence 2 Лена с Шариком is a compound subject (Лена is a nominal subject in the Nominative case + с Шариком is a nominal subject in the Instrumental case) which can be referred to as они (plural), so the parts of the subject 'participate' in a joint action:




                      Составное подлежащее:
                      именное подлежащее в именительном падеже +
                      именное подлежащее в форме творительного падежа с предлогом «с»
                      (значение совместности):



                      Девочка с собачкой вышли прогуляться.







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                        In sentence 1 only Таня is the subject while the words с другом just describe the details of verb's action (went with whom).



                        In sentence 2 Лена с Шариком is a compound subject (Лена is a nominal subject in the Nominative case + с Шариком is a nominal subject in the Instrumental case) which can be referred to as они (plural), so the parts of the subject 'participate' in a joint action:




                        Составное подлежащее:
                        именное подлежащее в именительном падеже +
                        именное подлежащее в форме творительного падежа с предлогом «с»
                        (значение совместности):



                        Девочка с собачкой вышли прогуляться.







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                          In sentence 1 only Таня is the subject while the words с другом just describe the details of verb's action (went with whom).



                          In sentence 2 Лена с Шариком is a compound subject (Лена is a nominal subject in the Nominative case + с Шариком is a nominal subject in the Instrumental case) which can be referred to as они (plural), so the parts of the subject 'participate' in a joint action:




                          Составное подлежащее:
                          именное подлежащее в именительном падеже +
                          именное подлежащее в форме творительного падежа с предлогом «с»
                          (значение совместности):



                          Девочка с собачкой вышли прогуляться.







                          share|improve this answer















                          In sentence 1 only Таня is the subject while the words с другом just describe the details of verb's action (went with whom).



                          In sentence 2 Лена с Шариком is a compound subject (Лена is a nominal subject in the Nominative case + с Шариком is a nominal subject in the Instrumental case) which can be referred to as они (plural), so the parts of the subject 'participate' in a joint action:




                          Составное подлежащее:
                          именное подлежащее в именительном падеже +
                          именное подлежащее в форме творительного падежа с предлогом «с»
                          (значение совместности):



                          Девочка с собачкой вышли прогуляться.








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