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I'm reading Mathematical Aspects of Classical and Celestial Mechanics, Second Edition by Arnold, Kozlov, and Neishtadt. It occurred to me that many people like to use third power when mention the law of universal gravitation.
For example,
$$F_ij=fracgamma m_i m_jr_ij$$ where $r_ij=r_i-r_j, gamma =textconst>0$
Is this just some conversion/tradition/habit, or does it carry any significance? i.e. the absolute value changed sign and derivative?
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I'm reading Mathematical Aspects of Classical and Celestial Mechanics, Second Edition by Arnold, Kozlov, and Neishtadt. It occurred to me that many people like to use third power when mention the law of universal gravitation.
For example,
$$F_ij=fracgamma m_i m_jr_ij$$ where $r_ij=r_i-r_j, gamma =textconst>0$
Is this just some conversion/tradition/habit, or does it carry any significance? i.e. the absolute value changed sign and derivative?
newtonian-gravity vectors notation
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One advantage is that you don't need to introduce a unit vector for $vecr_ij$. This is the same as writing $fracgamma m_i m_j fracvecr_ij = fracgamma m_i m_j hatr_ij$.
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– Tob Ernack
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I think this is a fairly common convention. I've seen it on Biot-Savart as well.
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– mathysics
Jun 19 at 5:01
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Notice that it is not an absolute value but vector norm.
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– Matt
Jun 19 at 12:02
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It's a convenient form of typing it to avoid the use of unit vectors. Imagine typing an entire book using $hathats$.
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 14:41
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Because all the cool guys are doing it.
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I'm reading Mathematical Aspects of Classical and Celestial Mechanics, Second Edition by Arnold, Kozlov, and Neishtadt. It occurred to me that many people like to use third power when mention the law of universal gravitation.
For example,
$$F_ij=fracgamma m_i m_jr_ij$$ where $r_ij=r_i-r_j, gamma =textconst>0$
Is this just some conversion/tradition/habit, or does it carry any significance? i.e. the absolute value changed sign and derivative?
newtonian-gravity vectors notation
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I'm reading Mathematical Aspects of Classical and Celestial Mechanics, Second Edition by Arnold, Kozlov, and Neishtadt. It occurred to me that many people like to use third power when mention the law of universal gravitation.
For example,
$$F_ij=fracgamma m_i m_jr_ij$$ where $r_ij=r_i-r_j, gamma =textconst>0$
Is this just some conversion/tradition/habit, or does it carry any significance? i.e. the absolute value changed sign and derivative?
newtonian-gravity vectors notation
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One advantage is that you don't need to introduce a unit vector for $vecr_ij$. This is the same as writing $fracgamma m_i m_j fracvecr_ij = fracgamma m_i m_j hatr_ij$.
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– Tob Ernack
Jun 19 at 3:53
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I think this is a fairly common convention. I've seen it on Biot-Savart as well.
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– mathysics
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Notice that it is not an absolute value but vector norm.
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– Matt
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It's a convenient form of typing it to avoid the use of unit vectors. Imagine typing an entire book using $hathats$.
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– J. Manuel
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Because all the cool guys are doing it.
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One advantage is that you don't need to introduce a unit vector for $vecr_ij$. This is the same as writing $fracgamma m_i m_j fracvecr_ij = fracgamma m_i m_j hatr_ij$.
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– Tob Ernack
Jun 19 at 3:53
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I think this is a fairly common convention. I've seen it on Biot-Savart as well.
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– mathysics
Jun 19 at 5:01
2
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Notice that it is not an absolute value but vector norm.
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– Matt
Jun 19 at 12:02
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It's a convenient form of typing it to avoid the use of unit vectors. Imagine typing an entire book using $hathats$.
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 14:41
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Because all the cool guys are doing it.
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– Paracosmiste
Jun 19 at 14:56
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One advantage is that you don't need to introduce a unit vector for $vecr_ij$. This is the same as writing $fracgamma m_i m_j fracvecr_ij = fracgamma m_i m_j hatr_ij$.
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– Tob Ernack
Jun 19 at 3:53
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One advantage is that you don't need to introduce a unit vector for $vecr_ij$. This is the same as writing $fracgamma m_i m_j fracvecr_ij = fracgamma m_i m_j hatr_ij$.
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– Tob Ernack
Jun 19 at 3:53
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I think this is a fairly common convention. I've seen it on Biot-Savart as well.
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– mathysics
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I think this is a fairly common convention. I've seen it on Biot-Savart as well.
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Notice that it is not an absolute value but vector norm.
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– Matt
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Notice that it is not an absolute value but vector norm.
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– Matt
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It's a convenient form of typing it to avoid the use of unit vectors. Imagine typing an entire book using $hathats$.
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 14:41
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It's a convenient form of typing it to avoid the use of unit vectors. Imagine typing an entire book using $hathats$.
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– J. Manuel
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Because all the cool guys are doing it.
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Because all the cool guys are doing it.
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This is not about gravity but about making maths easier; the same idea comes up whenever you have a force in the radial direction. The reason that $bf r/r^3$ is a little easier to work with than $hatbf r/r^2$ is the following.
First, one can write it out in rectangular coordinates easily:
$$
fracbf rr^3 = frac1r^3 left( beginarrayc x\y\z endarray right)
$$
Secondly, because $hatbf r$ has a square root hidden in it which makes some manipulations trickier:
$$
hatbf r = (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^-1/2(x bf i + y bf j + z bf k)
$$
Indeed, when doing things like differentiation, the first step is often to write $hatbf r$ as $bf r/r$.
Overall, the move to replace $hatbf r$ by $bf r/r$ reduces the number of different symbols in the mathematical expression and that is the main reason why it is regularly done. Having completed some algebra, one may then choose to present the result in terms of $hatbf r$ so as to draw attention to the overall scaling of the result, for example in order to make it clear that the gravitational law is an inverse square not an inverse cube law.
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mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^2 mathbfn_ij
tag1label1
endequation
where $:mathbfn_ij:$ the unit vector along the vector $:left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)$. But
beginequation
mathbfn_ij boldsymbol=dfracleft(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)Vert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert
tag2label2
endequation
so the third power
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^3 left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)
tag3label3
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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It is a matter of convenience:
Let $vecr_ij$ be a distance vector with magnitude $r_ij$ along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. Then:
(I): $vecr_ij$ squared is a scalar whose value equals its magnitude squared. Proof: $vecr_ij^2=vecr_ij cdot vecr_ij=r_ij r_ij cos0=r_ij^2$.
(II): $vecr_ij$ can be written as $vecr_ij=r_ij hatr_ij$, with $hatr_ij$ being a unit vector having the same direction as $vecr_ij$. Proof: This goes as an axiom ;-)
If ones writes Newton’s law of gravity as
$$F_ij=fracγm_im_jvecr_ij^2=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 tag1$$
Then (1) is an incomplete description of the gravitational force. Equation (1) only represents the magnitude of the gravitational force, as can be noticed by the fact that the right side of it is just a scalar.
It is a well-established observation that gravity is a force whose direction is along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. As a force, gravity must be written as a vector, and therefore the right form would be
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 hatr_ij tag2$$
From (II), equation (2) can be written as
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 fracvecr_ijr_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^3 vecr_ij tag3$$
Typing vectors and unit vectors with arrows and “hats” atop (as in current case) is a little cumbersome. To solve for typing vectors with arrows, one can select other options as boldfacing them for example. To avoid unit vectors one uses the convention $fracvecrr$, i.e., the choice of (3) is a convenient form of writing these sort of equations, especially for works containing a huge amount of text.
It is not only easier (if one uses a WYSIWYG text editor of typing machine) to type equation (3) using these conventions, but visually cleaner as well. Just check:
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm γdfracm_i m_jmathbfr_ij^3 mathbfr_ij
tag4
endequation
As was pointed out by @AndrewSteane, there are even mathematical advantages by using this notation, hence, it is just more convenient to use the $fracbf rbf r^3$ notation.
The problem with this, however, is that people (almost) always is introduced to Newton’s law of gravity in its non-vector form (equation 1) and is expecting to find the inverse square law in a first glance, therefore, it may look odd for beginners until one gets used to it some point in future ;-)
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This is not about gravity but about making maths easier; the same idea comes up whenever you have a force in the radial direction. The reason that $bf r/r^3$ is a little easier to work with than $hatbf r/r^2$ is the following.
First, one can write it out in rectangular coordinates easily:
$$
fracbf rr^3 = frac1r^3 left( beginarrayc x\y\z endarray right)
$$
Secondly, because $hatbf r$ has a square root hidden in it which makes some manipulations trickier:
$$
hatbf r = (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^-1/2(x bf i + y bf j + z bf k)
$$
Indeed, when doing things like differentiation, the first step is often to write $hatbf r$ as $bf r/r$.
Overall, the move to replace $hatbf r$ by $bf r/r$ reduces the number of different symbols in the mathematical expression and that is the main reason why it is regularly done. Having completed some algebra, one may then choose to present the result in terms of $hatbf r$ so as to draw attention to the overall scaling of the result, for example in order to make it clear that the gravitational law is an inverse square not an inverse cube law.
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This is not about gravity but about making maths easier; the same idea comes up whenever you have a force in the radial direction. The reason that $bf r/r^3$ is a little easier to work with than $hatbf r/r^2$ is the following.
First, one can write it out in rectangular coordinates easily:
$$
fracbf rr^3 = frac1r^3 left( beginarrayc x\y\z endarray right)
$$
Secondly, because $hatbf r$ has a square root hidden in it which makes some manipulations trickier:
$$
hatbf r = (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^-1/2(x bf i + y bf j + z bf k)
$$
Indeed, when doing things like differentiation, the first step is often to write $hatbf r$ as $bf r/r$.
Overall, the move to replace $hatbf r$ by $bf r/r$ reduces the number of different symbols in the mathematical expression and that is the main reason why it is regularly done. Having completed some algebra, one may then choose to present the result in terms of $hatbf r$ so as to draw attention to the overall scaling of the result, for example in order to make it clear that the gravitational law is an inverse square not an inverse cube law.
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This is not about gravity but about making maths easier; the same idea comes up whenever you have a force in the radial direction. The reason that $bf r/r^3$ is a little easier to work with than $hatbf r/r^2$ is the following.
First, one can write it out in rectangular coordinates easily:
$$
fracbf rr^3 = frac1r^3 left( beginarrayc x\y\z endarray right)
$$
Secondly, because $hatbf r$ has a square root hidden in it which makes some manipulations trickier:
$$
hatbf r = (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^-1/2(x bf i + y bf j + z bf k)
$$
Indeed, when doing things like differentiation, the first step is often to write $hatbf r$ as $bf r/r$.
Overall, the move to replace $hatbf r$ by $bf r/r$ reduces the number of different symbols in the mathematical expression and that is the main reason why it is regularly done. Having completed some algebra, one may then choose to present the result in terms of $hatbf r$ so as to draw attention to the overall scaling of the result, for example in order to make it clear that the gravitational law is an inverse square not an inverse cube law.
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This is not about gravity but about making maths easier; the same idea comes up whenever you have a force in the radial direction. The reason that $bf r/r^3$ is a little easier to work with than $hatbf r/r^2$ is the following.
First, one can write it out in rectangular coordinates easily:
$$
fracbf rr^3 = frac1r^3 left( beginarrayc x\y\z endarray right)
$$
Secondly, because $hatbf r$ has a square root hidden in it which makes some manipulations trickier:
$$
hatbf r = (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^-1/2(x bf i + y bf j + z bf k)
$$
Indeed, when doing things like differentiation, the first step is often to write $hatbf r$ as $bf r/r$.
Overall, the move to replace $hatbf r$ by $bf r/r$ reduces the number of different symbols in the mathematical expression and that is the main reason why it is regularly done. Having completed some algebra, one may then choose to present the result in terms of $hatbf r$ so as to draw attention to the overall scaling of the result, for example in order to make it clear that the gravitational law is an inverse square not an inverse cube law.
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beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^2 mathbfn_ij
tag1label1
endequation
where $:mathbfn_ij:$ the unit vector along the vector $:left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)$. But
beginequation
mathbfn_ij boldsymbol=dfracleft(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)Vert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert
tag2label2
endequation
so the third power
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^3 left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)
tag3label3
endequation
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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– DJohnM
Jun 19 at 6:31
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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– Frobenius
Jun 19 at 6:48
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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– David Richerby
Jun 19 at 13:19
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 15:59
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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– gabe
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beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^2 mathbfn_ij
tag1label1
endequation
where $:mathbfn_ij:$ the unit vector along the vector $:left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)$. But
beginequation
mathbfn_ij boldsymbol=dfracleft(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)Vert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert
tag2label2
endequation
so the third power
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^3 left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)
tag3label3
endequation
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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– DJohnM
Jun 19 at 6:31
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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– Frobenius
Jun 19 at 6:48
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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– David Richerby
Jun 19 at 13:19
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 15:59
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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– gabe
Jun 19 at 17:58
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beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^2 mathbfn_ij
tag1label1
endequation
where $:mathbfn_ij:$ the unit vector along the vector $:left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)$. But
beginequation
mathbfn_ij boldsymbol=dfracleft(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)Vert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert
tag2label2
endequation
so the third power
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^3 left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)
tag3label3
endequation
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beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^2 mathbfn_ij
tag1label1
endequation
where $:mathbfn_ij:$ the unit vector along the vector $:left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)$. But
beginequation
mathbfn_ij boldsymbol=dfracleft(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)Vert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert
tag2label2
endequation
so the third power
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm kdfracm_i m_jVert mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jVert^3 left(mathbfr_iboldsymbol- mathbfr_jright)
tag3label3
endequation
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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– DJohnM
Jun 19 at 6:31
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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– Frobenius
Jun 19 at 6:48
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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– David Richerby
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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– J. Manuel
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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– gabe
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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– DJohnM
Jun 19 at 6:31
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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– Frobenius
Jun 19 at 6:48
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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– David Richerby
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 15:59
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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– gabe
Jun 19 at 17:58
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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– DJohnM
Jun 19 at 6:31
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So the authors presumably stated early on that, in their text, bold face quantities are all vectors. The only scalar in the OP's equation are the masses?
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– DJohnM
Jun 19 at 6:31
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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– Frobenius
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@DJohnM ...the masses $:m_i,m_j:$ and the constant $:mathrm k$...
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– Frobenius
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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– David Richerby
Jun 19 at 13:19
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@DJohnM I don't think I've seen boldface used for anything other than vectors.
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– David Richerby
Jun 19 at 13:19
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 15:59
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But why (3) and not (1). Is it a traditionhabit?
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– J. Manuel
Jun 19 at 15:59
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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– gabe
Jun 19 at 17:58
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@J.Manuel You see both in the literature, and I would wager (1) is actually more common as it makes manifest the inverse square relationship. (3) can often be easier to work with however.
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– gabe
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It is a matter of convenience:
Let $vecr_ij$ be a distance vector with magnitude $r_ij$ along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. Then:
(I): $vecr_ij$ squared is a scalar whose value equals its magnitude squared. Proof: $vecr_ij^2=vecr_ij cdot vecr_ij=r_ij r_ij cos0=r_ij^2$.
(II): $vecr_ij$ can be written as $vecr_ij=r_ij hatr_ij$, with $hatr_ij$ being a unit vector having the same direction as $vecr_ij$. Proof: This goes as an axiom ;-)
If ones writes Newton’s law of gravity as
$$F_ij=fracγm_im_jvecr_ij^2=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 tag1$$
Then (1) is an incomplete description of the gravitational force. Equation (1) only represents the magnitude of the gravitational force, as can be noticed by the fact that the right side of it is just a scalar.
It is a well-established observation that gravity is a force whose direction is along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. As a force, gravity must be written as a vector, and therefore the right form would be
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 hatr_ij tag2$$
From (II), equation (2) can be written as
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 fracvecr_ijr_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^3 vecr_ij tag3$$
Typing vectors and unit vectors with arrows and “hats” atop (as in current case) is a little cumbersome. To solve for typing vectors with arrows, one can select other options as boldfacing them for example. To avoid unit vectors one uses the convention $fracvecrr$, i.e., the choice of (3) is a convenient form of writing these sort of equations, especially for works containing a huge amount of text.
It is not only easier (if one uses a WYSIWYG text editor of typing machine) to type equation (3) using these conventions, but visually cleaner as well. Just check:
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm γdfracm_i m_jmathbfr_ij^3 mathbfr_ij
tag4
endequation
As was pointed out by @AndrewSteane, there are even mathematical advantages by using this notation, hence, it is just more convenient to use the $fracbf rbf r^3$ notation.
The problem with this, however, is that people (almost) always is introduced to Newton’s law of gravity in its non-vector form (equation 1) and is expecting to find the inverse square law in a first glance, therefore, it may look odd for beginners until one gets used to it some point in future ;-)
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It is a matter of convenience:
Let $vecr_ij$ be a distance vector with magnitude $r_ij$ along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. Then:
(I): $vecr_ij$ squared is a scalar whose value equals its magnitude squared. Proof: $vecr_ij^2=vecr_ij cdot vecr_ij=r_ij r_ij cos0=r_ij^2$.
(II): $vecr_ij$ can be written as $vecr_ij=r_ij hatr_ij$, with $hatr_ij$ being a unit vector having the same direction as $vecr_ij$. Proof: This goes as an axiom ;-)
If ones writes Newton’s law of gravity as
$$F_ij=fracγm_im_jvecr_ij^2=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 tag1$$
Then (1) is an incomplete description of the gravitational force. Equation (1) only represents the magnitude of the gravitational force, as can be noticed by the fact that the right side of it is just a scalar.
It is a well-established observation that gravity is a force whose direction is along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. As a force, gravity must be written as a vector, and therefore the right form would be
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 hatr_ij tag2$$
From (II), equation (2) can be written as
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 fracvecr_ijr_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^3 vecr_ij tag3$$
Typing vectors and unit vectors with arrows and “hats” atop (as in current case) is a little cumbersome. To solve for typing vectors with arrows, one can select other options as boldfacing them for example. To avoid unit vectors one uses the convention $fracvecrr$, i.e., the choice of (3) is a convenient form of writing these sort of equations, especially for works containing a huge amount of text.
It is not only easier (if one uses a WYSIWYG text editor of typing machine) to type equation (3) using these conventions, but visually cleaner as well. Just check:
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm γdfracm_i m_jmathbfr_ij^3 mathbfr_ij
tag4
endequation
As was pointed out by @AndrewSteane, there are even mathematical advantages by using this notation, hence, it is just more convenient to use the $fracbf rbf r^3$ notation.
The problem with this, however, is that people (almost) always is introduced to Newton’s law of gravity in its non-vector form (equation 1) and is expecting to find the inverse square law in a first glance, therefore, it may look odd for beginners until one gets used to it some point in future ;-)
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It is a matter of convenience:
Let $vecr_ij$ be a distance vector with magnitude $r_ij$ along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. Then:
(I): $vecr_ij$ squared is a scalar whose value equals its magnitude squared. Proof: $vecr_ij^2=vecr_ij cdot vecr_ij=r_ij r_ij cos0=r_ij^2$.
(II): $vecr_ij$ can be written as $vecr_ij=r_ij hatr_ij$, with $hatr_ij$ being a unit vector having the same direction as $vecr_ij$. Proof: This goes as an axiom ;-)
If ones writes Newton’s law of gravity as
$$F_ij=fracγm_im_jvecr_ij^2=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 tag1$$
Then (1) is an incomplete description of the gravitational force. Equation (1) only represents the magnitude of the gravitational force, as can be noticed by the fact that the right side of it is just a scalar.
It is a well-established observation that gravity is a force whose direction is along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. As a force, gravity must be written as a vector, and therefore the right form would be
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 hatr_ij tag2$$
From (II), equation (2) can be written as
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 fracvecr_ijr_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^3 vecr_ij tag3$$
Typing vectors and unit vectors with arrows and “hats” atop (as in current case) is a little cumbersome. To solve for typing vectors with arrows, one can select other options as boldfacing them for example. To avoid unit vectors one uses the convention $fracvecrr$, i.e., the choice of (3) is a convenient form of writing these sort of equations, especially for works containing a huge amount of text.
It is not only easier (if one uses a WYSIWYG text editor of typing machine) to type equation (3) using these conventions, but visually cleaner as well. Just check:
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm γdfracm_i m_jmathbfr_ij^3 mathbfr_ij
tag4
endequation
As was pointed out by @AndrewSteane, there are even mathematical advantages by using this notation, hence, it is just more convenient to use the $fracbf rbf r^3$ notation.
The problem with this, however, is that people (almost) always is introduced to Newton’s law of gravity in its non-vector form (equation 1) and is expecting to find the inverse square law in a first glance, therefore, it may look odd for beginners until one gets used to it some point in future ;-)
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It is a matter of convenience:
Let $vecr_ij$ be a distance vector with magnitude $r_ij$ along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. Then:
(I): $vecr_ij$ squared is a scalar whose value equals its magnitude squared. Proof: $vecr_ij^2=vecr_ij cdot vecr_ij=r_ij r_ij cos0=r_ij^2$.
(II): $vecr_ij$ can be written as $vecr_ij=r_ij hatr_ij$, with $hatr_ij$ being a unit vector having the same direction as $vecr_ij$. Proof: This goes as an axiom ;-)
If ones writes Newton’s law of gravity as
$$F_ij=fracγm_im_jvecr_ij^2=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 tag1$$
Then (1) is an incomplete description of the gravitational force. Equation (1) only represents the magnitude of the gravitational force, as can be noticed by the fact that the right side of it is just a scalar.
It is a well-established observation that gravity is a force whose direction is along the line connecting the masses $m_i$ and $m_j$. As a force, gravity must be written as a vector, and therefore the right form would be
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 hatr_ij tag2$$
From (II), equation (2) can be written as
$$vecF_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^2 fracvecr_ijr_ij=fracγm_im_jr_ij^3 vecr_ij tag3$$
Typing vectors and unit vectors with arrows and “hats” atop (as in current case) is a little cumbersome. To solve for typing vectors with arrows, one can select other options as boldfacing them for example. To avoid unit vectors one uses the convention $fracvecrr$, i.e., the choice of (3) is a convenient form of writing these sort of equations, especially for works containing a huge amount of text.
It is not only easier (if one uses a WYSIWYG text editor of typing machine) to type equation (3) using these conventions, but visually cleaner as well. Just check:
beginequation
mathbfF_ij boldsymbol=mathrm γdfracm_i m_jmathbfr_ij^3 mathbfr_ij
tag4
endequation
As was pointed out by @AndrewSteane, there are even mathematical advantages by using this notation, hence, it is just more convenient to use the $fracbf rbf r^3$ notation.
The problem with this, however, is that people (almost) always is introduced to Newton’s law of gravity in its non-vector form (equation 1) and is expecting to find the inverse square law in a first glance, therefore, it may look odd for beginners until one gets used to it some point in future ;-)
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One advantage is that you don't need to introduce a unit vector for $vecr_ij$. This is the same as writing $fracgamma m_i m_j fracvecr_ij = fracgamma m_i m_j hatr_ij$.
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– Tob Ernack
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I think this is a fairly common convention. I've seen it on Biot-Savart as well.
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– mathysics
Jun 19 at 5:01
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Notice that it is not an absolute value but vector norm.
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– Matt
Jun 19 at 12:02
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It's a convenient form of typing it to avoid the use of unit vectors. Imagine typing an entire book using $hathats$.
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– J. Manuel
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Because all the cool guys are doing it.
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– Paracosmiste
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