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Is Odin inconsistent about the powers of Mjolnir?
How did Captain America use this power?How can Hela hold or break Mjolnir?How can Hela hold or break Mjolnir?What happened to Odin in Thor: Ragnarok?Does Thor lose certain powers without his hammer?What will be the next weapon of Thor?Why didn't Hela use Odin's spear to open the Bifrost?How did Odin know about the Infinity Gauntlet?How did Odin keep Hela away from Asgard?Why doesn't Odin remove Hela's powers?Why would Odin keep a fake gauntlet?Was Mjolnir also Hela's weapon?
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In Avengers: Endgame in the final battle with Thanos,
Captain America not only was able to wield Mjolnir, but also used its lightning powers.
And I remembered in Thor: Ragnarok when Thor complained to Odin about being powerless without the hammer, to which Odin replied
Are you Thor, the God of hammers? The hammer is only to control your power.
or something like that (don't remember exact words).
This led me to believe that Mjolnir was just a powerful weapon, rather than the source of lightning.
Then reading Stack Exchange I was reminded about Odin's enchantment that he placed on Mjolnir in the original Thor:
Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.
And by "power of Thor", I assume he meant the power of lightning? This seems like a contradiction with what he later said. Was Odin just trying to motivate Thor since
Hela was beating him pretty easily. But then again, he was able to "hit her with the biggest lighting in the history of lightnings" without Mjolnir.
So which is it about Mjolnir?
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In Avengers: Endgame in the final battle with Thanos,
Captain America not only was able to wield Mjolnir, but also used its lightning powers.
And I remembered in Thor: Ragnarok when Thor complained to Odin about being powerless without the hammer, to which Odin replied
Are you Thor, the God of hammers? The hammer is only to control your power.
or something like that (don't remember exact words).
This led me to believe that Mjolnir was just a powerful weapon, rather than the source of lightning.
Then reading Stack Exchange I was reminded about Odin's enchantment that he placed on Mjolnir in the original Thor:
Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.
And by "power of Thor", I assume he meant the power of lightning? This seems like a contradiction with what he later said. Was Odin just trying to motivate Thor since
Hela was beating him pretty easily. But then again, he was able to "hit her with the biggest lighting in the history of lightnings" without Mjolnir.
So which is it about Mjolnir?
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No contradiction, the enchantment just lets other worthy people able to tap into Thor's powers.
– TheLethalCarrot
Aug 7 at 11:13
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I'd argue thatpossessis a lot stronger thantap into.
– Renat
Aug 7 at 11:20
4
IMO power of Thor means lot more than just lightning. is Thor only possess the power of lightning?
– Vishwa
Aug 7 at 11:21
12
Thor is god of lightning (not hammers), the hammer channels that power, other people who wield the hammer are able to channel Thor's powers. I don't understand where the contradiction lies?
– Bee
Aug 7 at 12:00
7
It simply means that Steve Rogers is the God of Hammers. Bruce, meanwhile, is the God of Gammas. Tony's the God of Screwdrivers and/or Cocktail Shakers.
– Paul D. Waite
Aug 8 at 9:22
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In Avengers: Endgame in the final battle with Thanos,
Captain America not only was able to wield Mjolnir, but also used its lightning powers.
And I remembered in Thor: Ragnarok when Thor complained to Odin about being powerless without the hammer, to which Odin replied
Are you Thor, the God of hammers? The hammer is only to control your power.
or something like that (don't remember exact words).
This led me to believe that Mjolnir was just a powerful weapon, rather than the source of lightning.
Then reading Stack Exchange I was reminded about Odin's enchantment that he placed on Mjolnir in the original Thor:
Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.
And by "power of Thor", I assume he meant the power of lightning? This seems like a contradiction with what he later said. Was Odin just trying to motivate Thor since
Hela was beating him pretty easily. But then again, he was able to "hit her with the biggest lighting in the history of lightnings" without Mjolnir.
So which is it about Mjolnir?
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In Avengers: Endgame in the final battle with Thanos,
Captain America not only was able to wield Mjolnir, but also used its lightning powers.
And I remembered in Thor: Ragnarok when Thor complained to Odin about being powerless without the hammer, to which Odin replied
Are you Thor, the God of hammers? The hammer is only to control your power.
or something like that (don't remember exact words).
This led me to believe that Mjolnir was just a powerful weapon, rather than the source of lightning.
Then reading Stack Exchange I was reminded about Odin's enchantment that he placed on Mjolnir in the original Thor:
Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.
And by "power of Thor", I assume he meant the power of lightning? This seems like a contradiction with what he later said. Was Odin just trying to motivate Thor since
Hela was beating him pretty easily. But then again, he was able to "hit her with the biggest lighting in the history of lightnings" without Mjolnir.
So which is it about Mjolnir?
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No contradiction, the enchantment just lets other worthy people able to tap into Thor's powers.
– TheLethalCarrot
Aug 7 at 11:13
12
I'd argue thatpossessis a lot stronger thantap into.
– Renat
Aug 7 at 11:20
4
IMO power of Thor means lot more than just lightning. is Thor only possess the power of lightning?
– Vishwa
Aug 7 at 11:21
12
Thor is god of lightning (not hammers), the hammer channels that power, other people who wield the hammer are able to channel Thor's powers. I don't understand where the contradiction lies?
– Bee
Aug 7 at 12:00
7
It simply means that Steve Rogers is the God of Hammers. Bruce, meanwhile, is the God of Gammas. Tony's the God of Screwdrivers and/or Cocktail Shakers.
– Paul D. Waite
Aug 8 at 9:22
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show 6 more comments
17
No contradiction, the enchantment just lets other worthy people able to tap into Thor's powers.
– TheLethalCarrot
Aug 7 at 11:13
12
I'd argue thatpossessis a lot stronger thantap into.
– Renat
Aug 7 at 11:20
4
IMO power of Thor means lot more than just lightning. is Thor only possess the power of lightning?
– Vishwa
Aug 7 at 11:21
12
Thor is god of lightning (not hammers), the hammer channels that power, other people who wield the hammer are able to channel Thor's powers. I don't understand where the contradiction lies?
– Bee
Aug 7 at 12:00
7
It simply means that Steve Rogers is the God of Hammers. Bruce, meanwhile, is the God of Gammas. Tony's the God of Screwdrivers and/or Cocktail Shakers.
– Paul D. Waite
Aug 8 at 9:22
17
17
No contradiction, the enchantment just lets other worthy people able to tap into Thor's powers.
– TheLethalCarrot
Aug 7 at 11:13
No contradiction, the enchantment just lets other worthy people able to tap into Thor's powers.
– TheLethalCarrot
Aug 7 at 11:13
12
12
I'd argue that
possess is a lot stronger than tap into.– Renat
Aug 7 at 11:20
I'd argue that
possess is a lot stronger than tap into.– Renat
Aug 7 at 11:20
4
4
IMO power of Thor means lot more than just lightning. is Thor only possess the power of lightning?
– Vishwa
Aug 7 at 11:21
IMO power of Thor means lot more than just lightning. is Thor only possess the power of lightning?
– Vishwa
Aug 7 at 11:21
12
12
Thor is god of lightning (not hammers), the hammer channels that power, other people who wield the hammer are able to channel Thor's powers. I don't understand where the contradiction lies?
– Bee
Aug 7 at 12:00
Thor is god of lightning (not hammers), the hammer channels that power, other people who wield the hammer are able to channel Thor's powers. I don't understand where the contradiction lies?
– Bee
Aug 7 at 12:00
7
7
It simply means that Steve Rogers is the God of Hammers. Bruce, meanwhile, is the God of Gammas. Tony's the God of Screwdrivers and/or Cocktail Shakers.
– Paul D. Waite
Aug 8 at 9:22
It simply means that Steve Rogers is the God of Hammers. Bruce, meanwhile, is the God of Gammas. Tony's the God of Screwdrivers and/or Cocktail Shakers.
– Paul D. Waite
Aug 8 at 9:22
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No, he's not being inconsistent.
Thor's powers are his, they're not granted by Mjolnir. He's capable - even if he doesn't realise/know it - of using them without Mjolnir, including after it's destroyed as he does in Thor: Ragnarok.
In the first Thor movie, Odin takes Thor's powers away from him, and then places the enchantment on Mjolnir. The intention is that, once Thor proves he's actually worthy again, his powers will be returned to him.
As a side effect of the enchantment, anybody else who happens to be worthy will also possess Thor's powers, while they're holding Mjolnir (for some definition of "holding"). This is what allows Captain America to summon lightning; he doesn't use Mjolnir to do it, but he has to be holding Mjolnir to have the ability to do it.
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Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
5
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
4
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
4
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
2
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
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Clearly Thor's lightning powers, his ability to fly/hover and his super strength/durability are not derived from Mjolnir, because he demonstrates them in both Infinity War and Endgame while wielding Stormbreaker. Stormbreaker was forged by a dwarf and not enchanted by Odin.
In which case, it seems that Mjolnir must grant some other powers to whomever is worthy of lifting it. In Endgame we see that Captain America is able to produce lightning and throw Mjolnir with improbable force similar to how Thor does, and Thor is able to use the same powers with Stormbreaker at the same time. It's not clear if Captain America is made more durable while holding Mjolnir.
Therefore, Mjolnir must duplicate Thor's innate powers. Thor does not lose them when someone else has it, or it is destroyed. Maybe after some time they "rubbed off" on him and he doesn't need Mjolnir any more.
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Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
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No, he's not being inconsistent.
Thor's powers are his, they're not granted by Mjolnir. He's capable - even if he doesn't realise/know it - of using them without Mjolnir, including after it's destroyed as he does in Thor: Ragnarok.
In the first Thor movie, Odin takes Thor's powers away from him, and then places the enchantment on Mjolnir. The intention is that, once Thor proves he's actually worthy again, his powers will be returned to him.
As a side effect of the enchantment, anybody else who happens to be worthy will also possess Thor's powers, while they're holding Mjolnir (for some definition of "holding"). This is what allows Captain America to summon lightning; he doesn't use Mjolnir to do it, but he has to be holding Mjolnir to have the ability to do it.
answered Aug 7 at 12:00
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Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
5
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
4
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
4
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
2
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
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No, he's not being inconsistent.
Thor's powers are his, they're not granted by Mjolnir. He's capable - even if he doesn't realise/know it - of using them without Mjolnir, including after it's destroyed as he does in Thor: Ragnarok.
In the first Thor movie, Odin takes Thor's powers away from him, and then places the enchantment on Mjolnir. The intention is that, once Thor proves he's actually worthy again, his powers will be returned to him.
As a side effect of the enchantment, anybody else who happens to be worthy will also possess Thor's powers, while they're holding Mjolnir (for some definition of "holding"). This is what allows Captain America to summon lightning; he doesn't use Mjolnir to do it, but he has to be holding Mjolnir to have the ability to do it.
answered Aug 7 at 12:00
Anthony GristAnthony Grist
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Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
5
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
4
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
4
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
2
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
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No, he's not being inconsistent.
Thor's powers are his, they're not granted by Mjolnir. He's capable - even if he doesn't realise/know it - of using them without Mjolnir, including after it's destroyed as he does in Thor: Ragnarok.
In the first Thor movie, Odin takes Thor's powers away from him, and then places the enchantment on Mjolnir. The intention is that, once Thor proves he's actually worthy again, his powers will be returned to him.
As a side effect of the enchantment, anybody else who happens to be worthy will also possess Thor's powers, while they're holding Mjolnir (for some definition of "holding"). This is what allows Captain America to summon lightning; he doesn't use Mjolnir to do it, but he has to be holding Mjolnir to have the ability to do it.
answered Aug 7 at 12:00
Anthony GristAnthony Grist
2,32316 silver badges19 bronze badges
No, he's not being inconsistent.
Thor's powers are his, they're not granted by Mjolnir. He's capable - even if he doesn't realise/know it - of using them without Mjolnir, including after it's destroyed as he does in Thor: Ragnarok.
In the first Thor movie, Odin takes Thor's powers away from him, and then places the enchantment on Mjolnir. The intention is that, once Thor proves he's actually worthy again, his powers will be returned to him.
As a side effect of the enchantment, anybody else who happens to be worthy will also possess Thor's powers, while they're holding Mjolnir (for some definition of "holding"). This is what allows Captain America to summon lightning; he doesn't use Mjolnir to do it, but he has to be holding Mjolnir to have the ability to do it.
answered Aug 7 at 12:00
Anthony GristAnthony Grist
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answered Aug 7 at 12:00
Anthony GristAnthony Grist
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answered Aug 7 at 12:00
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answered Aug 7 at 12:00
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Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
5
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
4
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
4
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
2
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
|
show 4 more comments
24
Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
5
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
4
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
4
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
2
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
24
24
Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
Which begs the question, if the hammer grants the "power of Thor", what happens if Thor becomes, I don't know, overweight, lazy, and unclean? Would the wielder suddenly start sitting around and playing Xbox?
– MivaScott
Aug 7 at 22:05
5
5
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
@MivaScott afaik there's no indication that overweight, lazy, and unclean Thor does not posses Thor's powers like lightning.. but that does not answer your question (i don't have an answer, sorry)
– hanshenrik
Aug 8 at 0:01
4
4
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
Maybe wielding the hammer gives you lightning powers, super strength, super healing, and mad Fortnight skillz.
– Robyn
Aug 8 at 3:36
4
4
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
@MivaScott "Control of lightning" is a power. "Being fat" probably isn't
– Chronocidal
Aug 8 at 9:40
2
2
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
@MivaScott he gets the power of still playing Fortnite 5 years from now!
– KeineMaster
Aug 8 at 12:21
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Clearly Thor's lightning powers, his ability to fly/hover and his super strength/durability are not derived from Mjolnir, because he demonstrates them in both Infinity War and Endgame while wielding Stormbreaker. Stormbreaker was forged by a dwarf and not enchanted by Odin.
In which case, it seems that Mjolnir must grant some other powers to whomever is worthy of lifting it. In Endgame we see that Captain America is able to produce lightning and throw Mjolnir with improbable force similar to how Thor does, and Thor is able to use the same powers with Stormbreaker at the same time. It's not clear if Captain America is made more durable while holding Mjolnir.
Therefore, Mjolnir must duplicate Thor's innate powers. Thor does not lose them when someone else has it, or it is destroyed. Maybe after some time they "rubbed off" on him and he doesn't need Mjolnir any more.
answered Aug 8 at 14:08
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Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
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Clearly Thor's lightning powers, his ability to fly/hover and his super strength/durability are not derived from Mjolnir, because he demonstrates them in both Infinity War and Endgame while wielding Stormbreaker. Stormbreaker was forged by a dwarf and not enchanted by Odin.
In which case, it seems that Mjolnir must grant some other powers to whomever is worthy of lifting it. In Endgame we see that Captain America is able to produce lightning and throw Mjolnir with improbable force similar to how Thor does, and Thor is able to use the same powers with Stormbreaker at the same time. It's not clear if Captain America is made more durable while holding Mjolnir.
Therefore, Mjolnir must duplicate Thor's innate powers. Thor does not lose them when someone else has it, or it is destroyed. Maybe after some time they "rubbed off" on him and he doesn't need Mjolnir any more.
answered Aug 8 at 14:08
useruser
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Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
add a comment |
Clearly Thor's lightning powers, his ability to fly/hover and his super strength/durability are not derived from Mjolnir, because he demonstrates them in both Infinity War and Endgame while wielding Stormbreaker. Stormbreaker was forged by a dwarf and not enchanted by Odin.
In which case, it seems that Mjolnir must grant some other powers to whomever is worthy of lifting it. In Endgame we see that Captain America is able to produce lightning and throw Mjolnir with improbable force similar to how Thor does, and Thor is able to use the same powers with Stormbreaker at the same time. It's not clear if Captain America is made more durable while holding Mjolnir.
Therefore, Mjolnir must duplicate Thor's innate powers. Thor does not lose them when someone else has it, or it is destroyed. Maybe after some time they "rubbed off" on him and he doesn't need Mjolnir any more.
answered Aug 8 at 14:08
useruser
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Clearly Thor's lightning powers, his ability to fly/hover and his super strength/durability are not derived from Mjolnir, because he demonstrates them in both Infinity War and Endgame while wielding Stormbreaker. Stormbreaker was forged by a dwarf and not enchanted by Odin.
In which case, it seems that Mjolnir must grant some other powers to whomever is worthy of lifting it. In Endgame we see that Captain America is able to produce lightning and throw Mjolnir with improbable force similar to how Thor does, and Thor is able to use the same powers with Stormbreaker at the same time. It's not clear if Captain America is made more durable while holding Mjolnir.
Therefore, Mjolnir must duplicate Thor's innate powers. Thor does not lose them when someone else has it, or it is destroyed. Maybe after some time they "rubbed off" on him and he doesn't need Mjolnir any more.
answered Aug 8 at 14:08
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answered Aug 8 at 14:08
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Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
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Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
Yeah, I got it now. Although, like you mentioned, it is redundant. It is just the lore of the Marvel universe. Odin could have worded his enchantment differently, then we wouldn't have cool moments of Steve using the hammer and the shield!
– Renat
Aug 8 at 14:16
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No contradiction, the enchantment just lets other worthy people able to tap into Thor's powers.
– TheLethalCarrot
Aug 7 at 11:13
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I'd argue that
possessis a lot stronger thantap into.– Renat
Aug 7 at 11:20
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IMO power of Thor means lot more than just lightning. is Thor only possess the power of lightning?
– Vishwa
Aug 7 at 11:21
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Thor is god of lightning (not hammers), the hammer channels that power, other people who wield the hammer are able to channel Thor's powers. I don't understand where the contradiction lies?
– Bee
Aug 7 at 12:00
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It simply means that Steve Rogers is the God of Hammers. Bruce, meanwhile, is the God of Gammas. Tony's the God of Screwdrivers and/or Cocktail Shakers.
– Paul D. Waite
Aug 8 at 9:22