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If I accidentally leaked my school's IP address and someone attempts a DDoS attack on my school am I at fault?
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I found my schools IP address and if it accidentally got out and my school got a DDoS attack am I liable for damages? (I'm in Colorado if that helps.)
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I found my schools IP address and if it accidentally got out and my school got a DDoS attack am I liable for damages? (I'm in Colorado if that helps.)
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Ok, Wikipedia can ban IPs. But why would someone DDOS your schools IP? What else did you do?
– BlueDogRanch
May 8 at 18:14
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Just because one knows where something is on the internet doesn't mean they are able to access it. An IP address is just that, an address.
– Elininja
May 8 at 21:53
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Your school's IP address isn't a secret. It is public knowledge and can be discovered by anybody with standard tools.
– user207421
May 8 at 23:56
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It's not hard to find your IP.
– Matt Clark
May 9 at 5:25
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I have a list of all the IPv4 addresses, it's the ultimate hacker tool.
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I found my schools IP address and if it accidentally got out and my school got a DDoS attack am I liable for damages? (I'm in Colorado if that helps.)
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I found my schools IP address and if it accidentally got out and my school got a DDoS attack am I liable for damages? (I'm in Colorado if that helps.)
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Ok, Wikipedia can ban IPs. But why would someone DDOS your schools IP? What else did you do?
– BlueDogRanch
May 8 at 18:14
8
Just because one knows where something is on the internet doesn't mean they are able to access it. An IP address is just that, an address.
– Elininja
May 8 at 21:53
46
Your school's IP address isn't a secret. It is public knowledge and can be discovered by anybody with standard tools.
– user207421
May 8 at 23:56
5
It's not hard to find your IP.
– Matt Clark
May 9 at 5:25
11
I have a list of all the IPv4 addresses, it's the ultimate hacker tool.
– pipe
May 9 at 8:28
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Ok, Wikipedia can ban IPs. But why would someone DDOS your schools IP? What else did you do?
– BlueDogRanch
May 8 at 18:14
8
Just because one knows where something is on the internet doesn't mean they are able to access it. An IP address is just that, an address.
– Elininja
May 8 at 21:53
46
Your school's IP address isn't a secret. It is public knowledge and can be discovered by anybody with standard tools.
– user207421
May 8 at 23:56
5
It's not hard to find your IP.
– Matt Clark
May 9 at 5:25
11
I have a list of all the IPv4 addresses, it's the ultimate hacker tool.
– pipe
May 9 at 8:28
6
6
Ok, Wikipedia can ban IPs. But why would someone DDOS your schools IP? What else did you do?
– BlueDogRanch
May 8 at 18:14
Ok, Wikipedia can ban IPs. But why would someone DDOS your schools IP? What else did you do?
– BlueDogRanch
May 8 at 18:14
8
8
Just because one knows where something is on the internet doesn't mean they are able to access it. An IP address is just that, an address.
– Elininja
May 8 at 21:53
Just because one knows where something is on the internet doesn't mean they are able to access it. An IP address is just that, an address.
– Elininja
May 8 at 21:53
46
46
Your school's IP address isn't a secret. It is public knowledge and can be discovered by anybody with standard tools.
– user207421
May 8 at 23:56
Your school's IP address isn't a secret. It is public knowledge and can be discovered by anybody with standard tools.
– user207421
May 8 at 23:56
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5
It's not hard to find your IP.
– Matt Clark
May 9 at 5:25
It's not hard to find your IP.
– Matt Clark
May 9 at 5:25
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11
I have a list of all the IPv4 addresses, it's the ultimate hacker tool.
– pipe
May 9 at 8:28
I have a list of all the IPv4 addresses, it's the ultimate hacker tool.
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Your school's IP goes out every time you go to a website or whatever. It would go out when they go to Google or whatever, so it has nothing to do with you.
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Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
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+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
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@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
May 9 at 5:37
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tl;dr- I don't see how you can "leak" a large organization's IP addresses given that they seem to be very public information. However, misusing an organization's network services or/and somehow being complicit in an attack could probably get someone into touble.
Organization IP address allocations seem to be public information.
I Google'd "Colorado university IP address".
The first search result was this official webpage for the University of Colorado, Boulder. It says:
IP Ranges for Server Administrators
All public IP space for CU Boulder can be described by the following notation:
128.138.0.0/16
198.11.16.0/20
But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online. Then this website shows them anyway.
Additionally, seems like anyone at your school can get an IP address by Google'ing "what's my ip". Or you can use Bing. Or WolframAlpha. Or, heck, this website doesn't seem to do anything but show your IP address.
Point being, I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked".
There're other things that might get someone into trouble though.
However, this sounds like a potentially different matter:
well someone at our school got our IP address banned from editing on Wikipedia
Ideally that "someone" isn't you or a friend since such activities can easily be against an organization's acceptable-use policy (example) or/and the law.
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"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such aslaw.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
1
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
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@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
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@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
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@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
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The IP might be public knowledge but it's also one of billions of other IP addresses out there with no particular reason to pay it special attention. A DDoS attack doesn't typically target arbitrary IPs so if the school were to be the target of such an attack, I'd expect there to be an investigation into who performed it and why. I'm not a lawyer but I'm willing to bet that those responsible, if identified and within jurisdiction, would be in very serious legal trouble and I'd expect this could also include anyone who might have requested the attack or otherwise brought the school to the attention of those who attacked it.
My advice: just forget about it. Don't write the IP down or save it anywhere. Put it out of your mind. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to you about having this knowledge and if the school were to be targeted by an attack, you don't want to be suspected of having anything to do with it.
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Answering as a technician, not a law expert.
Technically, the IP address in question could either be:
A static IP address with DNS records pointing at it (or an equivalent dynamic-DNS based solution). That would definitely be the case if the school operates an email or web server on this IP address in addition to using it as an egress for web accesses originating from school computers.
A provider-assigned dynamic IP address that is only used as an egress address, bundling web requests from school computers (usually via a technique called NAT/masquerading. Same would apply to the above). Same setup as a home DSL. This address can change without notice, eg when the router reconnects, since the provider manages it. Usually, that address will officially be associated with the PROVIDER, not with the school. However, it is still easy to find out for third parties (eg by asking someone using a school computer to open some web address on a server where you have access to the logs). Someone on a school computer can trivially find it out. Someone (email correspondent, web server operator, chat room operator, chat room member, in some cases forum member...) being communicated with from a school computer can find out in many cases.
That said, do not start any grief from a school computer (or ANY computer where the internet access isn't on your tab!!): If you, eg, approach, provoke or harass any group of people willing and capable to launch an attack on the school while using a school computer, this might put you in a bad light regardless of legality. Same applies to doing anything illegal which might implicate the school.
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So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
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Your school's IP goes out every time you go to a website or whatever. It would go out when they go to Google or whatever, so it has nothing to do with you.
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Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
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+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
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@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
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Your school's IP goes out every time you go to a website or whatever. It would go out when they go to Google or whatever, so it has nothing to do with you.
14
Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
59
+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
8
@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
May 9 at 5:37
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Your school's IP goes out every time you go to a website or whatever. It would go out when they go to Google or whatever, so it has nothing to do with you.
Your school's IP goes out every time you go to a website or whatever. It would go out when they go to Google or whatever, so it has nothing to do with you.
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Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
59
+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
8
@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
May 9 at 5:37
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14
Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
59
+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
8
@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
May 9 at 5:37
14
14
Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
Effectively user25581, that IP is public knowledge anyway. It sounds like a friend of yours is probably pulling your leg.
– Jacob M.
May 8 at 22:09
59
59
+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
+1. Worrying that you "leaked" the school's IP address and this enables DDoS attacks is like "leaking" the school's street address and enabling a terrorist attack.
– IMil
May 8 at 23:30
8
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@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
May 9 at 5:37
@IMil: Don't make him now being worried about that, too... '^.^
– Zaibis
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tl;dr- I don't see how you can "leak" a large organization's IP addresses given that they seem to be very public information. However, misusing an organization's network services or/and somehow being complicit in an attack could probably get someone into touble.
Organization IP address allocations seem to be public information.
I Google'd "Colorado university IP address".
The first search result was this official webpage for the University of Colorado, Boulder. It says:
IP Ranges for Server Administrators
All public IP space for CU Boulder can be described by the following notation:
128.138.0.0/16
198.11.16.0/20
But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online. Then this website shows them anyway.
Additionally, seems like anyone at your school can get an IP address by Google'ing "what's my ip". Or you can use Bing. Or WolframAlpha. Or, heck, this website doesn't seem to do anything but show your IP address.
Point being, I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked".
There're other things that might get someone into trouble though.
However, this sounds like a potentially different matter:
well someone at our school got our IP address banned from editing on Wikipedia
Ideally that "someone" isn't you or a friend since such activities can easily be against an organization's acceptable-use policy (example) or/and the law.
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"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such aslaw.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
1
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
3
@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
1
@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
1
@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:43
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tl;dr- I don't see how you can "leak" a large organization's IP addresses given that they seem to be very public information. However, misusing an organization's network services or/and somehow being complicit in an attack could probably get someone into touble.
Organization IP address allocations seem to be public information.
I Google'd "Colorado university IP address".
The first search result was this official webpage for the University of Colorado, Boulder. It says:
IP Ranges for Server Administrators
All public IP space for CU Boulder can be described by the following notation:
128.138.0.0/16
198.11.16.0/20
But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online. Then this website shows them anyway.
Additionally, seems like anyone at your school can get an IP address by Google'ing "what's my ip". Or you can use Bing. Or WolframAlpha. Or, heck, this website doesn't seem to do anything but show your IP address.
Point being, I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked".
There're other things that might get someone into trouble though.
However, this sounds like a potentially different matter:
well someone at our school got our IP address banned from editing on Wikipedia
Ideally that "someone" isn't you or a friend since such activities can easily be against an organization's acceptable-use policy (example) or/and the law.
New contributor
1
"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such aslaw.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
1
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
3
@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
1
@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
1
@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:43
|
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tl;dr- I don't see how you can "leak" a large organization's IP addresses given that they seem to be very public information. However, misusing an organization's network services or/and somehow being complicit in an attack could probably get someone into touble.
Organization IP address allocations seem to be public information.
I Google'd "Colorado university IP address".
The first search result was this official webpage for the University of Colorado, Boulder. It says:
IP Ranges for Server Administrators
All public IP space for CU Boulder can be described by the following notation:
128.138.0.0/16
198.11.16.0/20
But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online. Then this website shows them anyway.
Additionally, seems like anyone at your school can get an IP address by Google'ing "what's my ip". Or you can use Bing. Or WolframAlpha. Or, heck, this website doesn't seem to do anything but show your IP address.
Point being, I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked".
There're other things that might get someone into trouble though.
However, this sounds like a potentially different matter:
well someone at our school got our IP address banned from editing on Wikipedia
Ideally that "someone" isn't you or a friend since such activities can easily be against an organization's acceptable-use policy (example) or/and the law.
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tl;dr- I don't see how you can "leak" a large organization's IP addresses given that they seem to be very public information. However, misusing an organization's network services or/and somehow being complicit in an attack could probably get someone into touble.
Organization IP address allocations seem to be public information.
I Google'd "Colorado university IP address".
The first search result was this official webpage for the University of Colorado, Boulder. It says:
IP Ranges for Server Administrators
All public IP space for CU Boulder can be described by the following notation:
128.138.0.0/16
198.11.16.0/20
But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online. Then this website shows them anyway.
Additionally, seems like anyone at your school can get an IP address by Google'ing "what's my ip". Or you can use Bing. Or WolframAlpha. Or, heck, this website doesn't seem to do anything but show your IP address.
Point being, I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked".
There're other things that might get someone into trouble though.
However, this sounds like a potentially different matter:
well someone at our school got our IP address banned from editing on Wikipedia
Ideally that "someone" isn't you or a friend since such activities can easily be against an organization's acceptable-use policy (example) or/and the law.
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"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such aslaw.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
1
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
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@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
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@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
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@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:43
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"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such aslaw.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
1
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
3
@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
1
@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
1
@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:43
1
1
"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such as
law.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
"But, say that that university didn't publish its IP addresses online." I'm sorry but this answer makes it clear that, while you know the basics, you don't really know what you're talking about in any detail. IP addresses are not private information. The only way you can communicate with a computer over the internet is by knowing its IP address, and the IP address is no more secret than the hostname. Indeed, the whole way that the internet works is by having a global database called the DNS that maps hostnames (such as
law.stackexchange.com
) to IP addresses.– David Richerby
May 9 at 9:08
1
1
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
The DNS means that there's no such thing as "didn't publish its IP addresses online". At least all the public facing machines are, in practical terms, required to publish their addresses via the DNS. So why would you go to websites for IP addresses? They're in the DNS. And the heavily hedged statement 'I don't see how an organization's IP addresses could be considered information that could be "leaked"' makes it seem like there's some grey area, here. This is unambiguously public information that we're talking about - the analogy with the school's postal address in other answers is pretty good
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:23
3
3
@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
@DavidRicherby The university's domain name(s) might point to some hosting service's IP address. So it's perfectly plausible for a university to not publish it's IP address(es). I think the answer makes it perfectly clear that the IP address is not private information.
– Rick
May 9 at 10:30
1
1
@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
@DavidRicherby I pointed out the university publishing its own IP addresses to address the OP's concern that they might get in trouble for "leaking" that same information. Do you feel that that's somehow confusing, or..?
– Nat
May 9 at 10:41
1
1
@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:43
@Nat The public nature of IP addresses is intrinsic to the design of the internet; your answer makes it looks like "Hmm, haw, they're out in the open anyway, because there are all these websites and stuff." Which is certainly true but, IMO, rather misses the point.
– David Richerby
May 9 at 10:43
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The IP might be public knowledge but it's also one of billions of other IP addresses out there with no particular reason to pay it special attention. A DDoS attack doesn't typically target arbitrary IPs so if the school were to be the target of such an attack, I'd expect there to be an investigation into who performed it and why. I'm not a lawyer but I'm willing to bet that those responsible, if identified and within jurisdiction, would be in very serious legal trouble and I'd expect this could also include anyone who might have requested the attack or otherwise brought the school to the attention of those who attacked it.
My advice: just forget about it. Don't write the IP down or save it anywhere. Put it out of your mind. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to you about having this knowledge and if the school were to be targeted by an attack, you don't want to be suspected of having anything to do with it.
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The IP might be public knowledge but it's also one of billions of other IP addresses out there with no particular reason to pay it special attention. A DDoS attack doesn't typically target arbitrary IPs so if the school were to be the target of such an attack, I'd expect there to be an investigation into who performed it and why. I'm not a lawyer but I'm willing to bet that those responsible, if identified and within jurisdiction, would be in very serious legal trouble and I'd expect this could also include anyone who might have requested the attack or otherwise brought the school to the attention of those who attacked it.
My advice: just forget about it. Don't write the IP down or save it anywhere. Put it out of your mind. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to you about having this knowledge and if the school were to be targeted by an attack, you don't want to be suspected of having anything to do with it.
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The IP might be public knowledge but it's also one of billions of other IP addresses out there with no particular reason to pay it special attention. A DDoS attack doesn't typically target arbitrary IPs so if the school were to be the target of such an attack, I'd expect there to be an investigation into who performed it and why. I'm not a lawyer but I'm willing to bet that those responsible, if identified and within jurisdiction, would be in very serious legal trouble and I'd expect this could also include anyone who might have requested the attack or otherwise brought the school to the attention of those who attacked it.
My advice: just forget about it. Don't write the IP down or save it anywhere. Put it out of your mind. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to you about having this knowledge and if the school were to be targeted by an attack, you don't want to be suspected of having anything to do with it.
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The IP might be public knowledge but it's also one of billions of other IP addresses out there with no particular reason to pay it special attention. A DDoS attack doesn't typically target arbitrary IPs so if the school were to be the target of such an attack, I'd expect there to be an investigation into who performed it and why. I'm not a lawyer but I'm willing to bet that those responsible, if identified and within jurisdiction, would be in very serious legal trouble and I'd expect this could also include anyone who might have requested the attack or otherwise brought the school to the attention of those who attacked it.
My advice: just forget about it. Don't write the IP down or save it anywhere. Put it out of your mind. There is absolutely nothing beneficial to you about having this knowledge and if the school were to be targeted by an attack, you don't want to be suspected of having anything to do with it.
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Answering as a technician, not a law expert.
Technically, the IP address in question could either be:
A static IP address with DNS records pointing at it (or an equivalent dynamic-DNS based solution). That would definitely be the case if the school operates an email or web server on this IP address in addition to using it as an egress for web accesses originating from school computers.
A provider-assigned dynamic IP address that is only used as an egress address, bundling web requests from school computers (usually via a technique called NAT/masquerading. Same would apply to the above). Same setup as a home DSL. This address can change without notice, eg when the router reconnects, since the provider manages it. Usually, that address will officially be associated with the PROVIDER, not with the school. However, it is still easy to find out for third parties (eg by asking someone using a school computer to open some web address on a server where you have access to the logs). Someone on a school computer can trivially find it out. Someone (email correspondent, web server operator, chat room operator, chat room member, in some cases forum member...) being communicated with from a school computer can find out in many cases.
That said, do not start any grief from a school computer (or ANY computer where the internet access isn't on your tab!!): If you, eg, approach, provoke or harass any group of people willing and capable to launch an attack on the school while using a school computer, this might put you in a bad light regardless of legality. Same applies to doing anything illegal which might implicate the school.
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So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
– Wildcard
May 9 at 20:59
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Answering as a technician, not a law expert.
Technically, the IP address in question could either be:
A static IP address with DNS records pointing at it (or an equivalent dynamic-DNS based solution). That would definitely be the case if the school operates an email or web server on this IP address in addition to using it as an egress for web accesses originating from school computers.
A provider-assigned dynamic IP address that is only used as an egress address, bundling web requests from school computers (usually via a technique called NAT/masquerading. Same would apply to the above). Same setup as a home DSL. This address can change without notice, eg when the router reconnects, since the provider manages it. Usually, that address will officially be associated with the PROVIDER, not with the school. However, it is still easy to find out for third parties (eg by asking someone using a school computer to open some web address on a server where you have access to the logs). Someone on a school computer can trivially find it out. Someone (email correspondent, web server operator, chat room operator, chat room member, in some cases forum member...) being communicated with from a school computer can find out in many cases.
That said, do not start any grief from a school computer (or ANY computer where the internet access isn't on your tab!!): If you, eg, approach, provoke or harass any group of people willing and capable to launch an attack on the school while using a school computer, this might put you in a bad light regardless of legality. Same applies to doing anything illegal which might implicate the school.
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So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
– Wildcard
May 9 at 20:59
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Answering as a technician, not a law expert.
Technically, the IP address in question could either be:
A static IP address with DNS records pointing at it (or an equivalent dynamic-DNS based solution). That would definitely be the case if the school operates an email or web server on this IP address in addition to using it as an egress for web accesses originating from school computers.
A provider-assigned dynamic IP address that is only used as an egress address, bundling web requests from school computers (usually via a technique called NAT/masquerading. Same would apply to the above). Same setup as a home DSL. This address can change without notice, eg when the router reconnects, since the provider manages it. Usually, that address will officially be associated with the PROVIDER, not with the school. However, it is still easy to find out for third parties (eg by asking someone using a school computer to open some web address on a server where you have access to the logs). Someone on a school computer can trivially find it out. Someone (email correspondent, web server operator, chat room operator, chat room member, in some cases forum member...) being communicated with from a school computer can find out in many cases.
That said, do not start any grief from a school computer (or ANY computer where the internet access isn't on your tab!!): If you, eg, approach, provoke or harass any group of people willing and capable to launch an attack on the school while using a school computer, this might put you in a bad light regardless of legality. Same applies to doing anything illegal which might implicate the school.
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Answering as a technician, not a law expert.
Technically, the IP address in question could either be:
A static IP address with DNS records pointing at it (or an equivalent dynamic-DNS based solution). That would definitely be the case if the school operates an email or web server on this IP address in addition to using it as an egress for web accesses originating from school computers.
A provider-assigned dynamic IP address that is only used as an egress address, bundling web requests from school computers (usually via a technique called NAT/masquerading. Same would apply to the above). Same setup as a home DSL. This address can change without notice, eg when the router reconnects, since the provider manages it. Usually, that address will officially be associated with the PROVIDER, not with the school. However, it is still easy to find out for third parties (eg by asking someone using a school computer to open some web address on a server where you have access to the logs). Someone on a school computer can trivially find it out. Someone (email correspondent, web server operator, chat room operator, chat room member, in some cases forum member...) being communicated with from a school computer can find out in many cases.
That said, do not start any grief from a school computer (or ANY computer where the internet access isn't on your tab!!): If you, eg, approach, provoke or harass any group of people willing and capable to launch an attack on the school while using a school computer, this might put you in a bad light regardless of legality. Same applies to doing anything illegal which might implicate the school.
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So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
– Wildcard
May 9 at 20:59
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So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
– Wildcard
May 9 at 20:59
So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
– Wildcard
May 9 at 20:59
So be sure to use my own internet access to start grief and provoke and harass people? Got it.
– Wildcard
May 9 at 20:59
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Ok, Wikipedia can ban IPs. But why would someone DDOS your schools IP? What else did you do?
– BlueDogRanch
May 8 at 18:14
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Just because one knows where something is on the internet doesn't mean they are able to access it. An IP address is just that, an address.
– Elininja
May 8 at 21:53
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Your school's IP address isn't a secret. It is public knowledge and can be discovered by anybody with standard tools.
– user207421
May 8 at 23:56
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It's not hard to find your IP.
– Matt Clark
May 9 at 5:25
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I have a list of all the IPv4 addresses, it's the ultimate hacker tool.
– pipe
May 9 at 8:28