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Were there religious wars in Hinduism itself? As it was the case for Christian between Catholics and Protestants?
Does Science Contradict Hinduism?What is the story of Sharaba?What to do when scriptures go against conscience?Is Shiva Purana authentic?Which work of Basavanna contains this statement?When were Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism marked as separate religions?Is the Satvata Samhita, the oldest Pancharatra text, available online in English?Was Adi Shankaracharya a Vishwakarma Brahmin?Any evidence of Ram Temple in Ayodhya being destroyed before Babri Masjid?How does the Ramanandi sect originate from the Sri Vaishnava Parampara?Who are all the Gurus of Abhinavagupta and what Paramparas did they come from?Why did Mandana Mishra defend the Sphotavada theory of language?Which schools prior to the Gautam Buddha gave the finite size of the atma (आत्मा )?Are there details of the fight between Chitrangada and the gandharva with the same name?Who were the people that thought Śaṅkarācārya was the author of Bhagavad-gītā?
An introduction would be better I guess to understand my initiative. I am new here. I am French, and most of the French people do not understand English. So, I want to bring some knowledge to French people who want to know better Hinduism and Satana Dharma to be more global. We have a huge lack of informations in French contents. That's why I ask the stack community, because most of the time your answers are sourced on scriptures contrary to what do people in my FB group... Or what I read in French websites. They only refers to their own mystical experience not to what rishis said. So what I am searching for here is serious people, like many I read here, who answers with sources.
So I asked once, in French contents if there were historical events in hinduism itself, that can blunty be qualified as religious war? All I received is the speech about the tolerance in hinduism but nothing that show if it was the case or not.They just recognized they ignore it actually. So, what I expect is really an historical point, and sourced one, not a philosophic speech. That's not to make a bad painting at all. That's just to know what really happened in the history of this religion. And to take it as a lesson for all of us.
Besides, if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions? And if not, how was the harmony ruled? And based on what?
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An introduction would be better I guess to understand my initiative. I am new here. I am French, and most of the French people do not understand English. So, I want to bring some knowledge to French people who want to know better Hinduism and Satana Dharma to be more global. We have a huge lack of informations in French contents. That's why I ask the stack community, because most of the time your answers are sourced on scriptures contrary to what do people in my FB group... Or what I read in French websites. They only refers to their own mystical experience not to what rishis said. So what I am searching for here is serious people, like many I read here, who answers with sources.
So I asked once, in French contents if there were historical events in hinduism itself, that can blunty be qualified as religious war? All I received is the speech about the tolerance in hinduism but nothing that show if it was the case or not.They just recognized they ignore it actually. So, what I expect is really an historical point, and sourced one, not a philosophic speech. That's not to make a bad painting at all. That's just to know what really happened in the history of this religion. And to take it as a lesson for all of us.
Besides, if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions? And if not, how was the harmony ruled? And based on what?
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Since you ask - "if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions?", please refer to the following link - m.rediff.com/amp/news/column/… Emperor Rajendra Chola created a vast empire in South East Asia and invaded Sri Lanka 17 times. During these invasions he destroyed the Buddhist shrines of Anuradhapura and built a Shiva temple at the site.
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 12:46
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You can also check this Saivaite legend about impalement of Jains in Madurai. (No one knows if it is a legend or based on true events, however, see below). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai The massacre of the Jain monks came to be celebrated in some Shaivite temples,[1] including the annual festival at the Meenakshi temple.[6] The impalement of Jains is depicted on the wall frescoes of the Golden Lily Tank of the Meenakshi temple.[7][8] The stone carvings at the Thiruvedagam Shaivite temple also depict the events from the legend.[9]
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 13:31
@Tharpa No it is totally true. In France we clearly speak about religions war between protestants and catholics. If you doubt consult the Night of Saint Bartelemy it was a massacre... One of our king was menaced and forced to convert. To not call it religions war is a euphemism.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 19:32
@AvyWam A massacre is not by itself a war. Forcing an individual to convert is not by itself a war. Wars have names, e.g. American Revolution, World War I, etc. To say that it was a war is incorrect, an exaggeration. So my statement was simply correct, and not a euphemism.
– Tharpa
May 10 at 20:18
@Tharpa You still does not believe me, here a reference: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/…, "guerre" means war. So that's not me who intitulate like this, these are the historians. That's a civil war in France, based on religion. So they called it religions wars.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 20:20
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An introduction would be better I guess to understand my initiative. I am new here. I am French, and most of the French people do not understand English. So, I want to bring some knowledge to French people who want to know better Hinduism and Satana Dharma to be more global. We have a huge lack of informations in French contents. That's why I ask the stack community, because most of the time your answers are sourced on scriptures contrary to what do people in my FB group... Or what I read in French websites. They only refers to their own mystical experience not to what rishis said. So what I am searching for here is serious people, like many I read here, who answers with sources.
So I asked once, in French contents if there were historical events in hinduism itself, that can blunty be qualified as religious war? All I received is the speech about the tolerance in hinduism but nothing that show if it was the case or not.They just recognized they ignore it actually. So, what I expect is really an historical point, and sourced one, not a philosophic speech. That's not to make a bad painting at all. That's just to know what really happened in the history of this religion. And to take it as a lesson for all of us.
Besides, if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions? And if not, how was the harmony ruled? And based on what?
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An introduction would be better I guess to understand my initiative. I am new here. I am French, and most of the French people do not understand English. So, I want to bring some knowledge to French people who want to know better Hinduism and Satana Dharma to be more global. We have a huge lack of informations in French contents. That's why I ask the stack community, because most of the time your answers are sourced on scriptures contrary to what do people in my FB group... Or what I read in French websites. They only refers to their own mystical experience not to what rishis said. So what I am searching for here is serious people, like many I read here, who answers with sources.
So I asked once, in French contents if there were historical events in hinduism itself, that can blunty be qualified as religious war? All I received is the speech about the tolerance in hinduism but nothing that show if it was the case or not.They just recognized they ignore it actually. So, what I expect is really an historical point, and sourced one, not a philosophic speech. That's not to make a bad painting at all. That's just to know what really happened in the history of this religion. And to take it as a lesson for all of us.
Besides, if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions? And if not, how was the harmony ruled? And based on what?
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Since you ask - "if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions?", please refer to the following link - m.rediff.com/amp/news/column/… Emperor Rajendra Chola created a vast empire in South East Asia and invaded Sri Lanka 17 times. During these invasions he destroyed the Buddhist shrines of Anuradhapura and built a Shiva temple at the site.
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 12:46
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You can also check this Saivaite legend about impalement of Jains in Madurai. (No one knows if it is a legend or based on true events, however, see below). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai The massacre of the Jain monks came to be celebrated in some Shaivite temples,[1] including the annual festival at the Meenakshi temple.[6] The impalement of Jains is depicted on the wall frescoes of the Golden Lily Tank of the Meenakshi temple.[7][8] The stone carvings at the Thiruvedagam Shaivite temple also depict the events from the legend.[9]
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 13:31
@Tharpa No it is totally true. In France we clearly speak about religions war between protestants and catholics. If you doubt consult the Night of Saint Bartelemy it was a massacre... One of our king was menaced and forced to convert. To not call it religions war is a euphemism.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 19:32
@AvyWam A massacre is not by itself a war. Forcing an individual to convert is not by itself a war. Wars have names, e.g. American Revolution, World War I, etc. To say that it was a war is incorrect, an exaggeration. So my statement was simply correct, and not a euphemism.
– Tharpa
May 10 at 20:18
@Tharpa You still does not believe me, here a reference: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/…, "guerre" means war. So that's not me who intitulate like this, these are the historians. That's a civil war in France, based on religion. So they called it religions wars.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 20:20
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Since you ask - "if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions?", please refer to the following link - m.rediff.com/amp/news/column/… Emperor Rajendra Chola created a vast empire in South East Asia and invaded Sri Lanka 17 times. During these invasions he destroyed the Buddhist shrines of Anuradhapura and built a Shiva temple at the site.
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 12:46
1
You can also check this Saivaite legend about impalement of Jains in Madurai. (No one knows if it is a legend or based on true events, however, see below). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai The massacre of the Jain monks came to be celebrated in some Shaivite temples,[1] including the annual festival at the Meenakshi temple.[6] The impalement of Jains is depicted on the wall frescoes of the Golden Lily Tank of the Meenakshi temple.[7][8] The stone carvings at the Thiruvedagam Shaivite temple also depict the events from the legend.[9]
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 13:31
@Tharpa No it is totally true. In France we clearly speak about religions war between protestants and catholics. If you doubt consult the Night of Saint Bartelemy it was a massacre... One of our king was menaced and forced to convert. To not call it religions war is a euphemism.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 19:32
@AvyWam A massacre is not by itself a war. Forcing an individual to convert is not by itself a war. Wars have names, e.g. American Revolution, World War I, etc. To say that it was a war is incorrect, an exaggeration. So my statement was simply correct, and not a euphemism.
– Tharpa
May 10 at 20:18
@Tharpa You still does not believe me, here a reference: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/…, "guerre" means war. So that's not me who intitulate like this, these are the historians. That's a civil war in France, based on religion. So they called it religions wars.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 20:20
2
2
Since you ask - "if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions?", please refer to the following link - m.rediff.com/amp/news/column/… Emperor Rajendra Chola created a vast empire in South East Asia and invaded Sri Lanka 17 times. During these invasions he destroyed the Buddhist shrines of Anuradhapura and built a Shiva temple at the site.
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 12:46
Since you ask - "if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions?", please refer to the following link - m.rediff.com/amp/news/column/… Emperor Rajendra Chola created a vast empire in South East Asia and invaded Sri Lanka 17 times. During these invasions he destroyed the Buddhist shrines of Anuradhapura and built a Shiva temple at the site.
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 12:46
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You can also check this Saivaite legend about impalement of Jains in Madurai. (No one knows if it is a legend or based on true events, however, see below). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai The massacre of the Jain monks came to be celebrated in some Shaivite temples,[1] including the annual festival at the Meenakshi temple.[6] The impalement of Jains is depicted on the wall frescoes of the Golden Lily Tank of the Meenakshi temple.[7][8] The stone carvings at the Thiruvedagam Shaivite temple also depict the events from the legend.[9]
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 13:31
You can also check this Saivaite legend about impalement of Jains in Madurai. (No one knows if it is a legend or based on true events, however, see below). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai The massacre of the Jain monks came to be celebrated in some Shaivite temples,[1] including the annual festival at the Meenakshi temple.[6] The impalement of Jains is depicted on the wall frescoes of the Golden Lily Tank of the Meenakshi temple.[7][8] The stone carvings at the Thiruvedagam Shaivite temple also depict the events from the legend.[9]
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 13:31
@Tharpa No it is totally true. In France we clearly speak about religions war between protestants and catholics. If you doubt consult the Night of Saint Bartelemy it was a massacre... One of our king was menaced and forced to convert. To not call it religions war is a euphemism.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 19:32
@Tharpa No it is totally true. In France we clearly speak about religions war between protestants and catholics. If you doubt consult the Night of Saint Bartelemy it was a massacre... One of our king was menaced and forced to convert. To not call it religions war is a euphemism.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 19:32
@AvyWam A massacre is not by itself a war. Forcing an individual to convert is not by itself a war. Wars have names, e.g. American Revolution, World War I, etc. To say that it was a war is incorrect, an exaggeration. So my statement was simply correct, and not a euphemism.
– Tharpa
May 10 at 20:18
@AvyWam A massacre is not by itself a war. Forcing an individual to convert is not by itself a war. Wars have names, e.g. American Revolution, World War I, etc. To say that it was a war is incorrect, an exaggeration. So my statement was simply correct, and not a euphemism.
– Tharpa
May 10 at 20:18
@Tharpa You still does not believe me, here a reference: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/…, "guerre" means war. So that's not me who intitulate like this, these are the historians. That's a civil war in France, based on religion. So they called it religions wars.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 20:20
@Tharpa You still does not believe me, here a reference: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/…, "guerre" means war. So that's not me who intitulate like this, these are the historians. That's a civil war in France, based on religion. So they called it religions wars.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 20:20
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that there were religious wars between Hindu sects. There was, however, friction between Saivas (followers of Lord Siva) and Vaishnavas (followers of Lord Vishnu) probably between 5th and 18th century. This friction can be seen in some malicious and embarassing verses in Hindu Puranic literature. I give below one example.
I abhor the non Vaishnava people and love the Vaishnava ones. I cut
off the tongue of the people who reproach Lord Vishnu. With heated
liquefied tin I fill the ears of those who hear his reproaches.
Garuda Purana, Brahma Khanda, Chapter VI.
Fortunately this type of verses can be easily rejected since Hindu scripture itself says that scripture is no scripture if it does not satistfy the test of reason.
answered May 10 at 16:04
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I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
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What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
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I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
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@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
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@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that there were religious wars between Hindu sects. There was, however, friction between Saivas (followers of Lord Siva) and Vaishnavas (followers of Lord Vishnu) probably between 5th and 18th century. This friction can be seen in some malicious and embarassing verses in Hindu Puranic literature. I give below one example.
I abhor the non Vaishnava people and love the Vaishnava ones. I cut
off the tongue of the people who reproach Lord Vishnu. With heated
liquefied tin I fill the ears of those who hear his reproaches.
Garuda Purana, Brahma Khanda, Chapter VI.
Fortunately this type of verses can be easily rejected since Hindu scripture itself says that scripture is no scripture if it does not satistfy the test of reason.
answered May 10 at 16:04
Pradip GangopadhyayPradip Gangopadhyay
16.1k2258
I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
3
What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
3
I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
1
@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
1
@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:59
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that there were religious wars between Hindu sects. There was, however, friction between Saivas (followers of Lord Siva) and Vaishnavas (followers of Lord Vishnu) probably between 5th and 18th century. This friction can be seen in some malicious and embarassing verses in Hindu Puranic literature. I give below one example.
I abhor the non Vaishnava people and love the Vaishnava ones. I cut
off the tongue of the people who reproach Lord Vishnu. With heated
liquefied tin I fill the ears of those who hear his reproaches.
Garuda Purana, Brahma Khanda, Chapter VI.
Fortunately this type of verses can be easily rejected since Hindu scripture itself says that scripture is no scripture if it does not satistfy the test of reason.
answered May 10 at 16:04
Pradip GangopadhyayPradip Gangopadhyay
16.1k2258
I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
3
What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
3
I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
1
@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
1
@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:59
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show 1 more comment
I wouldn't go so far as to say that there were religious wars between Hindu sects. There was, however, friction between Saivas (followers of Lord Siva) and Vaishnavas (followers of Lord Vishnu) probably between 5th and 18th century. This friction can be seen in some malicious and embarassing verses in Hindu Puranic literature. I give below one example.
I abhor the non Vaishnava people and love the Vaishnava ones. I cut
off the tongue of the people who reproach Lord Vishnu. With heated
liquefied tin I fill the ears of those who hear his reproaches.
Garuda Purana, Brahma Khanda, Chapter VI.
Fortunately this type of verses can be easily rejected since Hindu scripture itself says that scripture is no scripture if it does not satistfy the test of reason.
answered May 10 at 16:04
Pradip GangopadhyayPradip Gangopadhyay
16.1k2258
I wouldn't go so far as to say that there were religious wars between Hindu sects. There was, however, friction between Saivas (followers of Lord Siva) and Vaishnavas (followers of Lord Vishnu) probably between 5th and 18th century. This friction can be seen in some malicious and embarassing verses in Hindu Puranic literature. I give below one example.
I abhor the non Vaishnava people and love the Vaishnava ones. I cut
off the tongue of the people who reproach Lord Vishnu. With heated
liquefied tin I fill the ears of those who hear his reproaches.
Garuda Purana, Brahma Khanda, Chapter VI.
Fortunately this type of verses can be easily rejected since Hindu scripture itself says that scripture is no scripture if it does not satistfy the test of reason.
answered May 10 at 16:04
Pradip GangopadhyayPradip Gangopadhyay
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I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
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What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
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I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
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@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
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@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:59
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I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
3
What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
3
I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
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@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
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@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:59
I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
I did not know there was a "test of reason" That's a point I must learn. I thought that shruti scriptures were superior to smriti ones, simply. Because shruti are blunty divine revelation. But I learnt Puranas were in a very less perfect sanskrit as it is in Vedas, and were adressed to shudras and women. Does it count as shruti anyway?
– AvyWam
May 10 at 16:36
3
3
What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
What is so-called 'test of reason' you are reffering, and how does it fail the test of reason!? Will you elaborate?!
– user18248
May 10 at 17:27
3
3
I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
I found, randomly, this: "Bhisma said in Mahabharata Santi Parva Section CXLII: Even the words heard from an ignorant person, if in themselves they be fraught with sense, [..] this truth, which should remove all doubts, that scriptures are no scriptures if they cannot stand the test of reason." on here. And in Quora, Shashi Mohan Reddy Ravula, gives an answer on here.
– AvyWam
May 11 at 11:01
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@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
@AvyWam go through my answer posted here hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/34832/…
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:54
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@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:59
@user18248 test of reason means to check the reasonableness of any text. Is it reasonable to fill the ears with liquified tin merely because these persons have heard about reproaches about Lord Vishnu or cut off the tongues of people who reproach Lord Vishnu? I propose that it is not reasonable and hence the scriptural text cited fails the test of reason and should be robustly rejected.
– Pradip Gangopadhyay
May 11 at 14:59
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Since you ask - "if it was not a war between hindus theirselves, was there the case with other religions?", please refer to the following link - m.rediff.com/amp/news/column/… Emperor Rajendra Chola created a vast empire in South East Asia and invaded Sri Lanka 17 times. During these invasions he destroyed the Buddhist shrines of Anuradhapura and built a Shiva temple at the site.
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 12:46
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You can also check this Saivaite legend about impalement of Jains in Madurai. (No one knows if it is a legend or based on true events, however, see below). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impalement_of_the_Jains_in_Madurai The massacre of the Jain monks came to be celebrated in some Shaivite temples,[1] including the annual festival at the Meenakshi temple.[6] The impalement of Jains is depicted on the wall frescoes of the Golden Lily Tank of the Meenakshi temple.[7][8] The stone carvings at the Thiruvedagam Shaivite temple also depict the events from the legend.[9]
– Lazy Lubber
May 10 at 13:31
@Tharpa No it is totally true. In France we clearly speak about religions war between protestants and catholics. If you doubt consult the Night of Saint Bartelemy it was a massacre... One of our king was menaced and forced to convert. To not call it religions war is a euphemism.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 19:32
@AvyWam A massacre is not by itself a war. Forcing an individual to convert is not by itself a war. Wars have names, e.g. American Revolution, World War I, etc. To say that it was a war is incorrect, an exaggeration. So my statement was simply correct, and not a euphemism.
– Tharpa
May 10 at 20:18
@Tharpa You still does not believe me, here a reference: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/…, "guerre" means war. So that's not me who intitulate like this, these are the historians. That's a civil war in France, based on religion. So they called it religions wars.
– AvyWam
May 10 at 20:20