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I made a dart throwing rogue for Adventurers League only to later realise that my damage against BPS-resistant enemies will fall off at later levels compared to magical bow/crossbow users.



Given that purchasing magical items is quite expensive and from what I've skimmed through a single magical dart, which potentially only half are recoverable after use, may cost as much as a single magical weapon; How do I keep my rogue adequately supplied with magical darts at later levels?



Specifically, is there a ruling in Adventurers League that makes magical thrown weapons such as darts available more cheaply?










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    @Whambulance unfortunately AL requires by-the-book items and WotC haven't published a generic returning property for thrown weapons (except for in the UA Artificer's abilities, but that's UA so not AL-legal).
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I made a dart throwing rogue for Adventurers League only to later realise that my damage against BPS-resistant enemies will fall off at later levels compared to magical bow/crossbow users.



Given that purchasing magical items is quite expensive and from what I've skimmed through a single magical dart, which potentially only half are recoverable after use, may cost as much as a single magical weapon; How do I keep my rogue adequately supplied with magical darts at later levels?



Specifically, is there a ruling in Adventurers League that makes magical thrown weapons such as darts available more cheaply?










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Given that purchasing magical items is quite expensive and from what I've skimmed through a single magical dart, which potentially only half are recoverable after use, may cost as much as a single magical weapon; How do I keep my rogue adequately supplied with magical darts at later levels?



Specifically, is there a ruling in Adventurers League that makes magical thrown weapons such as darts available more cheaply?










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I made a dart throwing rogue for Adventurers League only to later realise that my damage against BPS-resistant enemies will fall off at later levels compared to magical bow/crossbow users.



Given that purchasing magical items is quite expensive and from what I've skimmed through a single magical dart, which potentially only half are recoverable after use, may cost as much as a single magical weapon; How do I keep my rogue adequately supplied with magical darts at later levels?



Specifically, is there a ruling in Adventurers League that makes magical thrown weapons such as darts available more cheaply?







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As fabian's answer points out, darts are not ammunition and do not have a chance of being lost, unless you toss one into lava or something. Unfortunately, AL only allows you to buy ammunition in cheaper bundles, so darts need to be purchased normally. That aside, there are several ways to optimize for minimal darts needed.



Builds



Eldritch Knight: Weapon Bond



At level 3, an Eldritch Knight fighter gains the Weapon Bond feature. Once you spend an hour bonding to a weapon, you are able to recall it to your hand (PHB, p. 75):




If [the bonded weapon] is on the same plane of existence, you can summon that weapon as a bonus action on your turn, causing it to teleport instantly to your hand.



You can have up to two bonded weapons, but can summon only one at a time with your bonus action.




With Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X, you can throw a dart with your action, and then recall it with your bonus action and not lose out on any attacks. In situations where you don't need magical damage, you can instead use your bonus action to Hide. Eldritch Knight 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style (+2 to hit with your darts), shield proficiency, Action Surge, and useful spells, like find familiar and shield.



Way of the Kensei: One with the Blade



At level 6, a Way of the Kensei monk gains the One with the Blade feature (XGtE, p. 34-35):




Magic Kensei Weapons. Your attacks with your kensei weapons count as magical for the purpose of overcoming resistance and immunity to nonmagical attacks and damage.




If you choose darts as one of your kensei weapons, all of your darts are magical. You can still benefit from the +X to hit and damage from magic items, though, so you'll want to pick some up anyway. Way of the Kensei also grants the Kensei's Shot feature at level 3 (XGtE, p. 34):




Kensei's Shot. You can use a bonus action on your turn to make your ranged attacks with a kensei weapon more deadly. When you do so, any target you hit with a ranged attack using a kensei weapon takes an extra 1d4 damage of the weapon's type. You retain this benefit until the end of the current turn.




Combine Kensei's Shot with monk's scaling Martial Arts damage, and your basic darts will one day deal 1d10+1d4+5. Since you need to take monk to level 6, you're probably better off staying pure monk if you go the Kensei route.



An aside on throwing multiple darts per turn



Monk grants you Extra Attack, allowing you to throw two darts with your Attack action. Drawing a weapon counts as your one free object interaction for the round, so here's how most combats will go:



  • Start with a dart in each hand.


  • Turn 1. Throw two darts. Use your object interaction to draw one dart.


  • Turn 2. Draw one dart. Throw two darts.


  • Turn 3+. Draw one dart. Throw one dart.

By turn 3, you're down to only one dart attack. The third bullet of the Dual Wielder feat is a (costly) way to solve this problem (PHB, p. 165):




• You can draw or stow two one-handed weapons when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.




On the other hand, most combats are winding down by turn 3, so maybe that's your cue to get in close and punch someone. If you're holding a dart when you do so, Way of the Kensei's Agile Parry grants you +2 to AC.



Forge Domain: Blessing of the Forge



At level 1, a Forge Domain cleric gains the Blessing of the Forge feature (XGtE, p. 19; emphasis mine):




[...] At the end of a long rest, you can touch one nonmagical object that is a suit of armor or a simple or martial weapon. Until the end of your next long rest or until you die, the object becomes a magic item, granting [...] a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls if it's a weapon.



Once you use this feature, you can't use it again until you finish a long rest.




This increases your dart stockpile by one. By character level 5, you'd have two magical darts (one purchased, one created); by halfway through level 7, you'd have three. Hopefully whatever you're throwing darts at is dead by the third round of combat, so you can retrieve your darts from their corpse mid-battle.



Cleric 1 also lets you pick up shield proficiency, as well as useful spells, like bless, healing word, and protection from evil and good. Due to the limited dart count (and no way to recall them), Forge Cleric 1 / Rogue X is probably the optimal path here.



Horizon Walker: Planar Warrior



At level 3, a Horizon Walker ranger gains the Planar Warrior feature (XGtE, p. 42):




As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack.




Your pure force damage darts will be (almost) never resisted. Since you can only convert one attack to force damage, Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue X is the way to go. Horizon Walker 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style, shield proficiency, and useful spells, like absorb elements, goodberry, and protection from evil/good.



Math



Damage isn't everything, but comparing it will give a decent idea of a build's combat capabilities. For this comparison, I will use level 8 characters attacking an AC 16 enemy with resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical weapons. Damage will be average DPR over 3 rounds. Each character has one +1 dart and one +2 dart, in addition to any provided by their build. All rogue levels are using the base class features only.




  • Rogue 8. The baseline; out of magic darts in two rounds. 14.1 DPR.


  • Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue 5. One +2 dart attack per round, forever. 15.8 DPR.


  • Way of the Kensei 8. A +2 and +1 dart on round 1; two magical +0 darts on round 2; one magical +0 on round 3. 12.6 DPR. If you're willing to make unarmed strikes on round 3, this goes up to 15.4 DPR.


  • Forge Domain 1 / Rogue 7. One +2 dart on round 1; +1 darts on rounds 2 and 3. 15.4 DPR.


  • Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue 5. One force damage +2 dart on round 1; one force damage +1 dart on round 2; one force damage normal dart on round 3. 17.8 DPR.

(I used this AnyDice program to run the numbers, if you're interested. The Summary tab is the best way to view the results.)



Horizon Walker seems like the clear winner, but it isn't actually that simple. Planar Warrior requires your bonus action, which the pure rogue and the Forge Domain multiclass can use to Hide. There isn't always a place to Hide, so its usefulness will be adventure-dependent. The Eldritch Knight can have a familiar use the Help action for (generally) more reliable advantage, raising it to 19.5 DPR.



Lastly, the Sharpshooter feat will modify damage differently for each build, in exchange for less reliability. Pure rogue, Forge Domain, and Horizon Walker deal less damage with Sharpshooter, unless they have advantage. Eldritch Knight gets a small boost to 16.6 DPR, even without advantage, thanks to always using a +2 dart. Way of the Kensei gets a significant boost to 18.3 DPR, as long as you're alright with punching things on round 3.



Final Verdict



Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X is my pick for most economical magical dart thrower. It only requires one magical dart, which you can throw every turn, no matter how many rounds of combat you face. You can choose to use Sharpshooter (optimally as a Variant human) when you have advantage for a large damage boost.



EK also grants you excellent defenses; shield proficiency and the shield spell combine to spike your AC to 23+ when you need it most. Find familiar grants you advantage and risk-free scouting. Absorb elements stacks with rogue's Evasion for near-immunity to Dex-based damage spells. Oh, and summoning darts to your hand is super cool.






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    You can recover all your darts



    The "recover half your stuff" rule is stated for the ammunition weapon property:




    Ammunition. [...] At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield. [...]




    The properties of a Dart are finesse and thrown, but not ammunition. Therefore the rule that you can only recover half of them does not apply to the darts. This doesn't prevent you from losing your darts, if you have to retreat or your target drops off a cliff you cannot climb down, though...






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      Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
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      In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
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    As fabian's answer points out, darts are not ammunition and do not have a chance of being lost, unless you toss one into lava or something. Unfortunately, AL only allows you to buy ammunition in cheaper bundles, so darts need to be purchased normally. That aside, there are several ways to optimize for minimal darts needed.



    Builds



    Eldritch Knight: Weapon Bond



    At level 3, an Eldritch Knight fighter gains the Weapon Bond feature. Once you spend an hour bonding to a weapon, you are able to recall it to your hand (PHB, p. 75):




    If [the bonded weapon] is on the same plane of existence, you can summon that weapon as a bonus action on your turn, causing it to teleport instantly to your hand.



    You can have up to two bonded weapons, but can summon only one at a time with your bonus action.




    With Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X, you can throw a dart with your action, and then recall it with your bonus action and not lose out on any attacks. In situations where you don't need magical damage, you can instead use your bonus action to Hide. Eldritch Knight 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style (+2 to hit with your darts), shield proficiency, Action Surge, and useful spells, like find familiar and shield.



    Way of the Kensei: One with the Blade



    At level 6, a Way of the Kensei monk gains the One with the Blade feature (XGtE, p. 34-35):




    Magic Kensei Weapons. Your attacks with your kensei weapons count as magical for the purpose of overcoming resistance and immunity to nonmagical attacks and damage.




    If you choose darts as one of your kensei weapons, all of your darts are magical. You can still benefit from the +X to hit and damage from magic items, though, so you'll want to pick some up anyway. Way of the Kensei also grants the Kensei's Shot feature at level 3 (XGtE, p. 34):




    Kensei's Shot. You can use a bonus action on your turn to make your ranged attacks with a kensei weapon more deadly. When you do so, any target you hit with a ranged attack using a kensei weapon takes an extra 1d4 damage of the weapon's type. You retain this benefit until the end of the current turn.




    Combine Kensei's Shot with monk's scaling Martial Arts damage, and your basic darts will one day deal 1d10+1d4+5. Since you need to take monk to level 6, you're probably better off staying pure monk if you go the Kensei route.



    An aside on throwing multiple darts per turn



    Monk grants you Extra Attack, allowing you to throw two darts with your Attack action. Drawing a weapon counts as your one free object interaction for the round, so here's how most combats will go:



    • Start with a dart in each hand.


    • Turn 1. Throw two darts. Use your object interaction to draw one dart.


    • Turn 2. Draw one dart. Throw two darts.


    • Turn 3+. Draw one dart. Throw one dart.

    By turn 3, you're down to only one dart attack. The third bullet of the Dual Wielder feat is a (costly) way to solve this problem (PHB, p. 165):




    • You can draw or stow two one-handed weapons when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.




    On the other hand, most combats are winding down by turn 3, so maybe that's your cue to get in close and punch someone. If you're holding a dart when you do so, Way of the Kensei's Agile Parry grants you +2 to AC.



    Forge Domain: Blessing of the Forge



    At level 1, a Forge Domain cleric gains the Blessing of the Forge feature (XGtE, p. 19; emphasis mine):




    [...] At the end of a long rest, you can touch one nonmagical object that is a suit of armor or a simple or martial weapon. Until the end of your next long rest or until you die, the object becomes a magic item, granting [...] a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls if it's a weapon.



    Once you use this feature, you can't use it again until you finish a long rest.




    This increases your dart stockpile by one. By character level 5, you'd have two magical darts (one purchased, one created); by halfway through level 7, you'd have three. Hopefully whatever you're throwing darts at is dead by the third round of combat, so you can retrieve your darts from their corpse mid-battle.



    Cleric 1 also lets you pick up shield proficiency, as well as useful spells, like bless, healing word, and protection from evil and good. Due to the limited dart count (and no way to recall them), Forge Cleric 1 / Rogue X is probably the optimal path here.



    Horizon Walker: Planar Warrior



    At level 3, a Horizon Walker ranger gains the Planar Warrior feature (XGtE, p. 42):




    As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack.




    Your pure force damage darts will be (almost) never resisted. Since you can only convert one attack to force damage, Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue X is the way to go. Horizon Walker 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style, shield proficiency, and useful spells, like absorb elements, goodberry, and protection from evil/good.



    Math



    Damage isn't everything, but comparing it will give a decent idea of a build's combat capabilities. For this comparison, I will use level 8 characters attacking an AC 16 enemy with resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical weapons. Damage will be average DPR over 3 rounds. Each character has one +1 dart and one +2 dart, in addition to any provided by their build. All rogue levels are using the base class features only.




    • Rogue 8. The baseline; out of magic darts in two rounds. 14.1 DPR.


    • Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue 5. One +2 dart attack per round, forever. 15.8 DPR.


    • Way of the Kensei 8. A +2 and +1 dart on round 1; two magical +0 darts on round 2; one magical +0 on round 3. 12.6 DPR. If you're willing to make unarmed strikes on round 3, this goes up to 15.4 DPR.


    • Forge Domain 1 / Rogue 7. One +2 dart on round 1; +1 darts on rounds 2 and 3. 15.4 DPR.


    • Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue 5. One force damage +2 dart on round 1; one force damage +1 dart on round 2; one force damage normal dart on round 3. 17.8 DPR.

    (I used this AnyDice program to run the numbers, if you're interested. The Summary tab is the best way to view the results.)



    Horizon Walker seems like the clear winner, but it isn't actually that simple. Planar Warrior requires your bonus action, which the pure rogue and the Forge Domain multiclass can use to Hide. There isn't always a place to Hide, so its usefulness will be adventure-dependent. The Eldritch Knight can have a familiar use the Help action for (generally) more reliable advantage, raising it to 19.5 DPR.



    Lastly, the Sharpshooter feat will modify damage differently for each build, in exchange for less reliability. Pure rogue, Forge Domain, and Horizon Walker deal less damage with Sharpshooter, unless they have advantage. Eldritch Knight gets a small boost to 16.6 DPR, even without advantage, thanks to always using a +2 dart. Way of the Kensei gets a significant boost to 18.3 DPR, as long as you're alright with punching things on round 3.



    Final Verdict



    Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X is my pick for most economical magical dart thrower. It only requires one magical dart, which you can throw every turn, no matter how many rounds of combat you face. You can choose to use Sharpshooter (optimally as a Variant human) when you have advantage for a large damage boost.



    EK also grants you excellent defenses; shield proficiency and the shield spell combine to spike your AC to 23+ when you need it most. Find familiar grants you advantage and risk-free scouting. Absorb elements stacks with rogue's Evasion for near-immunity to Dex-based damage spells. Oh, and summoning darts to your hand is super cool.






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      As fabian's answer points out, darts are not ammunition and do not have a chance of being lost, unless you toss one into lava or something. Unfortunately, AL only allows you to buy ammunition in cheaper bundles, so darts need to be purchased normally. That aside, there are several ways to optimize for minimal darts needed.



      Builds



      Eldritch Knight: Weapon Bond



      At level 3, an Eldritch Knight fighter gains the Weapon Bond feature. Once you spend an hour bonding to a weapon, you are able to recall it to your hand (PHB, p. 75):




      If [the bonded weapon] is on the same plane of existence, you can summon that weapon as a bonus action on your turn, causing it to teleport instantly to your hand.



      You can have up to two bonded weapons, but can summon only one at a time with your bonus action.




      With Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X, you can throw a dart with your action, and then recall it with your bonus action and not lose out on any attacks. In situations where you don't need magical damage, you can instead use your bonus action to Hide. Eldritch Knight 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style (+2 to hit with your darts), shield proficiency, Action Surge, and useful spells, like find familiar and shield.



      Way of the Kensei: One with the Blade



      At level 6, a Way of the Kensei monk gains the One with the Blade feature (XGtE, p. 34-35):




      Magic Kensei Weapons. Your attacks with your kensei weapons count as magical for the purpose of overcoming resistance and immunity to nonmagical attacks and damage.




      If you choose darts as one of your kensei weapons, all of your darts are magical. You can still benefit from the +X to hit and damage from magic items, though, so you'll want to pick some up anyway. Way of the Kensei also grants the Kensei's Shot feature at level 3 (XGtE, p. 34):




      Kensei's Shot. You can use a bonus action on your turn to make your ranged attacks with a kensei weapon more deadly. When you do so, any target you hit with a ranged attack using a kensei weapon takes an extra 1d4 damage of the weapon's type. You retain this benefit until the end of the current turn.




      Combine Kensei's Shot with monk's scaling Martial Arts damage, and your basic darts will one day deal 1d10+1d4+5. Since you need to take monk to level 6, you're probably better off staying pure monk if you go the Kensei route.



      An aside on throwing multiple darts per turn



      Monk grants you Extra Attack, allowing you to throw two darts with your Attack action. Drawing a weapon counts as your one free object interaction for the round, so here's how most combats will go:



      • Start with a dart in each hand.


      • Turn 1. Throw two darts. Use your object interaction to draw one dart.


      • Turn 2. Draw one dart. Throw two darts.


      • Turn 3+. Draw one dart. Throw one dart.

      By turn 3, you're down to only one dart attack. The third bullet of the Dual Wielder feat is a (costly) way to solve this problem (PHB, p. 165):




      • You can draw or stow two one-handed weapons when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.




      On the other hand, most combats are winding down by turn 3, so maybe that's your cue to get in close and punch someone. If you're holding a dart when you do so, Way of the Kensei's Agile Parry grants you +2 to AC.



      Forge Domain: Blessing of the Forge



      At level 1, a Forge Domain cleric gains the Blessing of the Forge feature (XGtE, p. 19; emphasis mine):




      [...] At the end of a long rest, you can touch one nonmagical object that is a suit of armor or a simple or martial weapon. Until the end of your next long rest or until you die, the object becomes a magic item, granting [...] a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls if it's a weapon.



      Once you use this feature, you can't use it again until you finish a long rest.




      This increases your dart stockpile by one. By character level 5, you'd have two magical darts (one purchased, one created); by halfway through level 7, you'd have three. Hopefully whatever you're throwing darts at is dead by the third round of combat, so you can retrieve your darts from their corpse mid-battle.



      Cleric 1 also lets you pick up shield proficiency, as well as useful spells, like bless, healing word, and protection from evil and good. Due to the limited dart count (and no way to recall them), Forge Cleric 1 / Rogue X is probably the optimal path here.



      Horizon Walker: Planar Warrior



      At level 3, a Horizon Walker ranger gains the Planar Warrior feature (XGtE, p. 42):




      As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack.




      Your pure force damage darts will be (almost) never resisted. Since you can only convert one attack to force damage, Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue X is the way to go. Horizon Walker 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style, shield proficiency, and useful spells, like absorb elements, goodberry, and protection from evil/good.



      Math



      Damage isn't everything, but comparing it will give a decent idea of a build's combat capabilities. For this comparison, I will use level 8 characters attacking an AC 16 enemy with resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical weapons. Damage will be average DPR over 3 rounds. Each character has one +1 dart and one +2 dart, in addition to any provided by their build. All rogue levels are using the base class features only.




      • Rogue 8. The baseline; out of magic darts in two rounds. 14.1 DPR.


      • Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue 5. One +2 dart attack per round, forever. 15.8 DPR.


      • Way of the Kensei 8. A +2 and +1 dart on round 1; two magical +0 darts on round 2; one magical +0 on round 3. 12.6 DPR. If you're willing to make unarmed strikes on round 3, this goes up to 15.4 DPR.


      • Forge Domain 1 / Rogue 7. One +2 dart on round 1; +1 darts on rounds 2 and 3. 15.4 DPR.


      • Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue 5. One force damage +2 dart on round 1; one force damage +1 dart on round 2; one force damage normal dart on round 3. 17.8 DPR.

      (I used this AnyDice program to run the numbers, if you're interested. The Summary tab is the best way to view the results.)



      Horizon Walker seems like the clear winner, but it isn't actually that simple. Planar Warrior requires your bonus action, which the pure rogue and the Forge Domain multiclass can use to Hide. There isn't always a place to Hide, so its usefulness will be adventure-dependent. The Eldritch Knight can have a familiar use the Help action for (generally) more reliable advantage, raising it to 19.5 DPR.



      Lastly, the Sharpshooter feat will modify damage differently for each build, in exchange for less reliability. Pure rogue, Forge Domain, and Horizon Walker deal less damage with Sharpshooter, unless they have advantage. Eldritch Knight gets a small boost to 16.6 DPR, even without advantage, thanks to always using a +2 dart. Way of the Kensei gets a significant boost to 18.3 DPR, as long as you're alright with punching things on round 3.



      Final Verdict



      Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X is my pick for most economical magical dart thrower. It only requires one magical dart, which you can throw every turn, no matter how many rounds of combat you face. You can choose to use Sharpshooter (optimally as a Variant human) when you have advantage for a large damage boost.



      EK also grants you excellent defenses; shield proficiency and the shield spell combine to spike your AC to 23+ when you need it most. Find familiar grants you advantage and risk-free scouting. Absorb elements stacks with rogue's Evasion for near-immunity to Dex-based damage spells. Oh, and summoning darts to your hand is super cool.






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        As fabian's answer points out, darts are not ammunition and do not have a chance of being lost, unless you toss one into lava or something. Unfortunately, AL only allows you to buy ammunition in cheaper bundles, so darts need to be purchased normally. That aside, there are several ways to optimize for minimal darts needed.



        Builds



        Eldritch Knight: Weapon Bond



        At level 3, an Eldritch Knight fighter gains the Weapon Bond feature. Once you spend an hour bonding to a weapon, you are able to recall it to your hand (PHB, p. 75):




        If [the bonded weapon] is on the same plane of existence, you can summon that weapon as a bonus action on your turn, causing it to teleport instantly to your hand.



        You can have up to two bonded weapons, but can summon only one at a time with your bonus action.




        With Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X, you can throw a dart with your action, and then recall it with your bonus action and not lose out on any attacks. In situations where you don't need magical damage, you can instead use your bonus action to Hide. Eldritch Knight 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style (+2 to hit with your darts), shield proficiency, Action Surge, and useful spells, like find familiar and shield.



        Way of the Kensei: One with the Blade



        At level 6, a Way of the Kensei monk gains the One with the Blade feature (XGtE, p. 34-35):




        Magic Kensei Weapons. Your attacks with your kensei weapons count as magical for the purpose of overcoming resistance and immunity to nonmagical attacks and damage.




        If you choose darts as one of your kensei weapons, all of your darts are magical. You can still benefit from the +X to hit and damage from magic items, though, so you'll want to pick some up anyway. Way of the Kensei also grants the Kensei's Shot feature at level 3 (XGtE, p. 34):




        Kensei's Shot. You can use a bonus action on your turn to make your ranged attacks with a kensei weapon more deadly. When you do so, any target you hit with a ranged attack using a kensei weapon takes an extra 1d4 damage of the weapon's type. You retain this benefit until the end of the current turn.




        Combine Kensei's Shot with monk's scaling Martial Arts damage, and your basic darts will one day deal 1d10+1d4+5. Since you need to take monk to level 6, you're probably better off staying pure monk if you go the Kensei route.



        An aside on throwing multiple darts per turn



        Monk grants you Extra Attack, allowing you to throw two darts with your Attack action. Drawing a weapon counts as your one free object interaction for the round, so here's how most combats will go:



        • Start with a dart in each hand.


        • Turn 1. Throw two darts. Use your object interaction to draw one dart.


        • Turn 2. Draw one dart. Throw two darts.


        • Turn 3+. Draw one dart. Throw one dart.

        By turn 3, you're down to only one dart attack. The third bullet of the Dual Wielder feat is a (costly) way to solve this problem (PHB, p. 165):




        • You can draw or stow two one-handed weapons when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.




        On the other hand, most combats are winding down by turn 3, so maybe that's your cue to get in close and punch someone. If you're holding a dart when you do so, Way of the Kensei's Agile Parry grants you +2 to AC.



        Forge Domain: Blessing of the Forge



        At level 1, a Forge Domain cleric gains the Blessing of the Forge feature (XGtE, p. 19; emphasis mine):




        [...] At the end of a long rest, you can touch one nonmagical object that is a suit of armor or a simple or martial weapon. Until the end of your next long rest or until you die, the object becomes a magic item, granting [...] a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls if it's a weapon.



        Once you use this feature, you can't use it again until you finish a long rest.




        This increases your dart stockpile by one. By character level 5, you'd have two magical darts (one purchased, one created); by halfway through level 7, you'd have three. Hopefully whatever you're throwing darts at is dead by the third round of combat, so you can retrieve your darts from their corpse mid-battle.



        Cleric 1 also lets you pick up shield proficiency, as well as useful spells, like bless, healing word, and protection from evil and good. Due to the limited dart count (and no way to recall them), Forge Cleric 1 / Rogue X is probably the optimal path here.



        Horizon Walker: Planar Warrior



        At level 3, a Horizon Walker ranger gains the Planar Warrior feature (XGtE, p. 42):




        As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack.




        Your pure force damage darts will be (almost) never resisted. Since you can only convert one attack to force damage, Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue X is the way to go. Horizon Walker 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style, shield proficiency, and useful spells, like absorb elements, goodberry, and protection from evil/good.



        Math



        Damage isn't everything, but comparing it will give a decent idea of a build's combat capabilities. For this comparison, I will use level 8 characters attacking an AC 16 enemy with resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical weapons. Damage will be average DPR over 3 rounds. Each character has one +1 dart and one +2 dart, in addition to any provided by their build. All rogue levels are using the base class features only.




        • Rogue 8. The baseline; out of magic darts in two rounds. 14.1 DPR.


        • Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue 5. One +2 dart attack per round, forever. 15.8 DPR.


        • Way of the Kensei 8. A +2 and +1 dart on round 1; two magical +0 darts on round 2; one magical +0 on round 3. 12.6 DPR. If you're willing to make unarmed strikes on round 3, this goes up to 15.4 DPR.


        • Forge Domain 1 / Rogue 7. One +2 dart on round 1; +1 darts on rounds 2 and 3. 15.4 DPR.


        • Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue 5. One force damage +2 dart on round 1; one force damage +1 dart on round 2; one force damage normal dart on round 3. 17.8 DPR.

        (I used this AnyDice program to run the numbers, if you're interested. The Summary tab is the best way to view the results.)



        Horizon Walker seems like the clear winner, but it isn't actually that simple. Planar Warrior requires your bonus action, which the pure rogue and the Forge Domain multiclass can use to Hide. There isn't always a place to Hide, so its usefulness will be adventure-dependent. The Eldritch Knight can have a familiar use the Help action for (generally) more reliable advantage, raising it to 19.5 DPR.



        Lastly, the Sharpshooter feat will modify damage differently for each build, in exchange for less reliability. Pure rogue, Forge Domain, and Horizon Walker deal less damage with Sharpshooter, unless they have advantage. Eldritch Knight gets a small boost to 16.6 DPR, even without advantage, thanks to always using a +2 dart. Way of the Kensei gets a significant boost to 18.3 DPR, as long as you're alright with punching things on round 3.



        Final Verdict



        Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X is my pick for most economical magical dart thrower. It only requires one magical dart, which you can throw every turn, no matter how many rounds of combat you face. You can choose to use Sharpshooter (optimally as a Variant human) when you have advantage for a large damage boost.



        EK also grants you excellent defenses; shield proficiency and the shield spell combine to spike your AC to 23+ when you need it most. Find familiar grants you advantage and risk-free scouting. Absorb elements stacks with rogue's Evasion for near-immunity to Dex-based damage spells. Oh, and summoning darts to your hand is super cool.






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        As fabian's answer points out, darts are not ammunition and do not have a chance of being lost, unless you toss one into lava or something. Unfortunately, AL only allows you to buy ammunition in cheaper bundles, so darts need to be purchased normally. That aside, there are several ways to optimize for minimal darts needed.



        Builds



        Eldritch Knight: Weapon Bond



        At level 3, an Eldritch Knight fighter gains the Weapon Bond feature. Once you spend an hour bonding to a weapon, you are able to recall it to your hand (PHB, p. 75):




        If [the bonded weapon] is on the same plane of existence, you can summon that weapon as a bonus action on your turn, causing it to teleport instantly to your hand.



        You can have up to two bonded weapons, but can summon only one at a time with your bonus action.




        With Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X, you can throw a dart with your action, and then recall it with your bonus action and not lose out on any attacks. In situations where you don't need magical damage, you can instead use your bonus action to Hide. Eldritch Knight 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style (+2 to hit with your darts), shield proficiency, Action Surge, and useful spells, like find familiar and shield.



        Way of the Kensei: One with the Blade



        At level 6, a Way of the Kensei monk gains the One with the Blade feature (XGtE, p. 34-35):




        Magic Kensei Weapons. Your attacks with your kensei weapons count as magical for the purpose of overcoming resistance and immunity to nonmagical attacks and damage.




        If you choose darts as one of your kensei weapons, all of your darts are magical. You can still benefit from the +X to hit and damage from magic items, though, so you'll want to pick some up anyway. Way of the Kensei also grants the Kensei's Shot feature at level 3 (XGtE, p. 34):




        Kensei's Shot. You can use a bonus action on your turn to make your ranged attacks with a kensei weapon more deadly. When you do so, any target you hit with a ranged attack using a kensei weapon takes an extra 1d4 damage of the weapon's type. You retain this benefit until the end of the current turn.




        Combine Kensei's Shot with monk's scaling Martial Arts damage, and your basic darts will one day deal 1d10+1d4+5. Since you need to take monk to level 6, you're probably better off staying pure monk if you go the Kensei route.



        An aside on throwing multiple darts per turn



        Monk grants you Extra Attack, allowing you to throw two darts with your Attack action. Drawing a weapon counts as your one free object interaction for the round, so here's how most combats will go:



        • Start with a dart in each hand.


        • Turn 1. Throw two darts. Use your object interaction to draw one dart.


        • Turn 2. Draw one dart. Throw two darts.


        • Turn 3+. Draw one dart. Throw one dart.

        By turn 3, you're down to only one dart attack. The third bullet of the Dual Wielder feat is a (costly) way to solve this problem (PHB, p. 165):




        • You can draw or stow two one-handed weapons when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.




        On the other hand, most combats are winding down by turn 3, so maybe that's your cue to get in close and punch someone. If you're holding a dart when you do so, Way of the Kensei's Agile Parry grants you +2 to AC.



        Forge Domain: Blessing of the Forge



        At level 1, a Forge Domain cleric gains the Blessing of the Forge feature (XGtE, p. 19; emphasis mine):




        [...] At the end of a long rest, you can touch one nonmagical object that is a suit of armor or a simple or martial weapon. Until the end of your next long rest or until you die, the object becomes a magic item, granting [...] a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls if it's a weapon.



        Once you use this feature, you can't use it again until you finish a long rest.




        This increases your dart stockpile by one. By character level 5, you'd have two magical darts (one purchased, one created); by halfway through level 7, you'd have three. Hopefully whatever you're throwing darts at is dead by the third round of combat, so you can retrieve your darts from their corpse mid-battle.



        Cleric 1 also lets you pick up shield proficiency, as well as useful spells, like bless, healing word, and protection from evil and good. Due to the limited dart count (and no way to recall them), Forge Cleric 1 / Rogue X is probably the optimal path here.



        Horizon Walker: Planar Warrior



        At level 3, a Horizon Walker ranger gains the Planar Warrior feature (XGtE, p. 42):




        As a bonus action, choose one creature you can see within 30 feet of you. The next time you hit that creature on this turn with a weapon attack, all damage dealt by the attack becomes force damage, and the creature takes an extra 1d8 force damage from the attack.




        Your pure force damage darts will be (almost) never resisted. Since you can only convert one attack to force damage, Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue X is the way to go. Horizon Walker 3 also lets you pick up the Archery fighting style, shield proficiency, and useful spells, like absorb elements, goodberry, and protection from evil/good.



        Math



        Damage isn't everything, but comparing it will give a decent idea of a build's combat capabilities. For this comparison, I will use level 8 characters attacking an AC 16 enemy with resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing from nonmagical weapons. Damage will be average DPR over 3 rounds. Each character has one +1 dart and one +2 dart, in addition to any provided by their build. All rogue levels are using the base class features only.




        • Rogue 8. The baseline; out of magic darts in two rounds. 14.1 DPR.


        • Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue 5. One +2 dart attack per round, forever. 15.8 DPR.


        • Way of the Kensei 8. A +2 and +1 dart on round 1; two magical +0 darts on round 2; one magical +0 on round 3. 12.6 DPR. If you're willing to make unarmed strikes on round 3, this goes up to 15.4 DPR.


        • Forge Domain 1 / Rogue 7. One +2 dart on round 1; +1 darts on rounds 2 and 3. 15.4 DPR.


        • Horizon Walker 3 / Rogue 5. One force damage +2 dart on round 1; one force damage +1 dart on round 2; one force damage normal dart on round 3. 17.8 DPR.

        (I used this AnyDice program to run the numbers, if you're interested. The Summary tab is the best way to view the results.)



        Horizon Walker seems like the clear winner, but it isn't actually that simple. Planar Warrior requires your bonus action, which the pure rogue and the Forge Domain multiclass can use to Hide. There isn't always a place to Hide, so its usefulness will be adventure-dependent. The Eldritch Knight can have a familiar use the Help action for (generally) more reliable advantage, raising it to 19.5 DPR.



        Lastly, the Sharpshooter feat will modify damage differently for each build, in exchange for less reliability. Pure rogue, Forge Domain, and Horizon Walker deal less damage with Sharpshooter, unless they have advantage. Eldritch Knight gets a small boost to 16.6 DPR, even without advantage, thanks to always using a +2 dart. Way of the Kensei gets a significant boost to 18.3 DPR, as long as you're alright with punching things on round 3.



        Final Verdict



        Eldritch Knight 3 / Rogue X is my pick for most economical magical dart thrower. It only requires one magical dart, which you can throw every turn, no matter how many rounds of combat you face. You can choose to use Sharpshooter (optimally as a Variant human) when you have advantage for a large damage boost.



        EK also grants you excellent defenses; shield proficiency and the shield spell combine to spike your AC to 23+ when you need it most. Find familiar grants you advantage and risk-free scouting. Absorb elements stacks with rogue's Evasion for near-immunity to Dex-based damage spells. Oh, and summoning darts to your hand is super cool.







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            You can recover all your darts



            The "recover half your stuff" rule is stated for the ammunition weapon property:




            Ammunition. [...] At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield. [...]




            The properties of a Dart are finesse and thrown, but not ammunition. Therefore the rule that you can only recover half of them does not apply to the darts. This doesn't prevent you from losing your darts, if you have to retreat or your target drops off a cliff you cannot climb down, though...






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              Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
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              In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
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              Adventurers League adheres to rules-as-written very closely from the games and discussions with various DMs in the shop I play at. They'll give some leeway but for most part it's RAW interpretations
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            You can recover all your darts



            The "recover half your stuff" rule is stated for the ammunition weapon property:




            Ammunition. [...] At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield. [...]




            The properties of a Dart are finesse and thrown, but not ammunition. Therefore the rule that you can only recover half of them does not apply to the darts. This doesn't prevent you from losing your darts, if you have to retreat or your target drops off a cliff you cannot climb down, though...






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              Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
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              – Bacon Hero
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            • $begingroup$
              In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
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              – mattdm
              Jun 12 at 2:33










            • $begingroup$
              Adventurers League adheres to rules-as-written very closely from the games and discussions with various DMs in the shop I play at. They'll give some leeway but for most part it's RAW interpretations
              $endgroup$
              – Bacon Hero
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            You can recover all your darts



            The "recover half your stuff" rule is stated for the ammunition weapon property:




            Ammunition. [...] At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield. [...]




            The properties of a Dart are finesse and thrown, but not ammunition. Therefore the rule that you can only recover half of them does not apply to the darts. This doesn't prevent you from losing your darts, if you have to retreat or your target drops off a cliff you cannot climb down, though...






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            You can recover all your darts



            The "recover half your stuff" rule is stated for the ammunition weapon property:




            Ammunition. [...] At the end of the battle, you can recover half your expended ammunition by taking a minute to search the battlefield. [...]




            The properties of a Dart are finesse and thrown, but not ammunition. Therefore the rule that you can only recover half of them does not apply to the darts. This doesn't prevent you from losing your darts, if you have to retreat or your target drops off a cliff you cannot climb down, though...







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              Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
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              – Bacon Hero
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            • $begingroup$
              In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
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              – mattdm
              Jun 12 at 2:33










            • $begingroup$
              Adventurers League adheres to rules-as-written very closely from the games and discussions with various DMs in the shop I play at. They'll give some leeway but for most part it's RAW interpretations
              $endgroup$
              – Bacon Hero
              Jun 12 at 9:12












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              Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
              $endgroup$
              – Bacon Hero
              Jun 10 at 15:51










            • $begingroup$
              In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
              $endgroup$
              – mattdm
              Jun 12 at 2:33










            • $begingroup$
              Adventurers League adheres to rules-as-written very closely from the games and discussions with various DMs in the shop I play at. They'll give some leeway but for most part it's RAW interpretations
              $endgroup$
              – Bacon Hero
              Jun 12 at 9:12







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            Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
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            – Bacon Hero
            Jun 10 at 15:51




            $begingroup$
            Yes, you're right but at best I'd only be able to afford 1 usable magic dart after 3-5 sessions. That gives me 1 magic attack per encounter unless I put myself at risk by attempting to recover the spent dart during battle. I was wondering if I could get enough magical darts to keep up with characters that use magical bows - that probably means 6 to 12 darts in one encounter?
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            – Bacon Hero
            Jun 10 at 15:51












            $begingroup$
            In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
            $endgroup$
            – mattdm
            Jun 12 at 2:33




            $begingroup$
            In my experience as a player, this is the kind of thing where you should check with your DM first if they agree with this reading of the rules, because I expect many to react to the "it's not ammunition" claim as some kind of rules-lawering powergaming move and many to house rule "well, they count as ammo in this game" on the spot.
            $endgroup$
            – mattdm
            Jun 12 at 2:33












            $begingroup$
            Adventurers League adheres to rules-as-written very closely from the games and discussions with various DMs in the shop I play at. They'll give some leeway but for most part it's RAW interpretations
            $endgroup$
            – Bacon Hero
            Jun 12 at 9:12




            $begingroup$
            Adventurers League adheres to rules-as-written very closely from the games and discussions with various DMs in the shop I play at. They'll give some leeway but for most part it's RAW interpretations
            $endgroup$
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