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What exactly “triggers an additional time” in the interaction between Afterlife and Teysa Karlov?
How can I improve my deck building skills?Karlov of the Ghost Council and ExtortTeysa + Painter's servant replacementDoes Exalted still apply if additional creatures are later included?What happens when Mathas, Fiend Seeker's bounty counters go away and come back again?Interaction between Time of Ice and RescueThe interaction between Omniscience and TrinisphereInteraction between Nivmagus Elemental and Rune SnagCan I sacrifice creatures before moving Teysa Karlov to the graveyard due to the Legend rule?What is the interaction between Muraganda Petroglyphs and Humility?
I'm pretty new to MTG and just have built my first commander deck around Teysa Karlov. One of her passive abilities is:
If a creature dying causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
My deck features a lot of cards with death triggers, such as:
Afterlife N. (When this creature dies, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)
Let's say Teysa is on the battlefield and a creature of mine that has "Afterlife 2" dies, such as Ministrant of Obligation: what exactly gets triggered an additional time?
I see two options:
- "Afterlife" triggers an additional time, so Afterlife 2 becomes Afterlife 3
- "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, so 2x Afterlife 2
Which interpretation is correct and why?
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I'm pretty new to MTG and just have built my first commander deck around Teysa Karlov. One of her passive abilities is:
If a creature dying causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
My deck features a lot of cards with death triggers, such as:
Afterlife N. (When this creature dies, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)
Let's say Teysa is on the battlefield and a creature of mine that has "Afterlife 2" dies, such as Ministrant of Obligation: what exactly gets triggered an additional time?
I see two options:
- "Afterlife" triggers an additional time, so Afterlife 2 becomes Afterlife 3
- "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, so 2x Afterlife 2
Which interpretation is correct and why?
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Even if you're treating Afterlife 2 as being two triggers of Afterlife 1, each of those triggers is doubled by Teysa Karlov, so you get 4 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying either way.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 21:49
@Acccumulation Note that her ability states it triggers an additional time, not that it doubles the triggers.
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 23:26
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I think it amounts to the same thing. Suppose Ministrant of Obligation instead said "When this creature dies, create a 1/1 creature, then creature another 1/1 creature." You would have two triggers, and each of those triggers would cause Teysa Karlov to trigger.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 23:30
@Acccumulation Ah, now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
– Lainathiel
Jun 11 at 4:33
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I'm pretty new to MTG and just have built my first commander deck around Teysa Karlov. One of her passive abilities is:
If a creature dying causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
My deck features a lot of cards with death triggers, such as:
Afterlife N. (When this creature dies, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)
Let's say Teysa is on the battlefield and a creature of mine that has "Afterlife 2" dies, such as Ministrant of Obligation: what exactly gets triggered an additional time?
I see two options:
- "Afterlife" triggers an additional time, so Afterlife 2 becomes Afterlife 3
- "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, so 2x Afterlife 2
Which interpretation is correct and why?
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I'm pretty new to MTG and just have built my first commander deck around Teysa Karlov. One of her passive abilities is:
If a creature dying causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
My deck features a lot of cards with death triggers, such as:
Afterlife N. (When this creature dies, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)
Let's say Teysa is on the battlefield and a creature of mine that has "Afterlife 2" dies, such as Ministrant of Obligation: what exactly gets triggered an additional time?
I see two options:
- "Afterlife" triggers an additional time, so Afterlife 2 becomes Afterlife 3
- "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, so 2x Afterlife 2
Which interpretation is correct and why?
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Even if you're treating Afterlife 2 as being two triggers of Afterlife 1, each of those triggers is doubled by Teysa Karlov, so you get 4 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying either way.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 21:49
@Acccumulation Note that her ability states it triggers an additional time, not that it doubles the triggers.
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 23:26
4
I think it amounts to the same thing. Suppose Ministrant of Obligation instead said "When this creature dies, create a 1/1 creature, then creature another 1/1 creature." You would have two triggers, and each of those triggers would cause Teysa Karlov to trigger.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 23:30
@Acccumulation Ah, now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
– Lainathiel
Jun 11 at 4:33
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Even if you're treating Afterlife 2 as being two triggers of Afterlife 1, each of those triggers is doubled by Teysa Karlov, so you get 4 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying either way.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 21:49
@Acccumulation Note that her ability states it triggers an additional time, not that it doubles the triggers.
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 23:26
4
I think it amounts to the same thing. Suppose Ministrant of Obligation instead said "When this creature dies, create a 1/1 creature, then creature another 1/1 creature." You would have two triggers, and each of those triggers would cause Teysa Karlov to trigger.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 23:30
@Acccumulation Ah, now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
– Lainathiel
Jun 11 at 4:33
Even if you're treating Afterlife 2 as being two triggers of Afterlife 1, each of those triggers is doubled by Teysa Karlov, so you get 4 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying either way.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 21:49
Even if you're treating Afterlife 2 as being two triggers of Afterlife 1, each of those triggers is doubled by Teysa Karlov, so you get 4 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying either way.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 21:49
@Acccumulation Note that her ability states it triggers an additional time, not that it doubles the triggers.
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 23:26
@Acccumulation Note that her ability states it triggers an additional time, not that it doubles the triggers.
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 23:26
4
4
I think it amounts to the same thing. Suppose Ministrant of Obligation instead said "When this creature dies, create a 1/1 creature, then creature another 1/1 creature." You would have two triggers, and each of those triggers would cause Teysa Karlov to trigger.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 23:30
I think it amounts to the same thing. Suppose Ministrant of Obligation instead said "When this creature dies, create a 1/1 creature, then creature another 1/1 creature." You would have two triggers, and each of those triggers would cause Teysa Karlov to trigger.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 23:30
@Acccumulation Ah, now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
– Lainathiel
Jun 11 at 4:33
@Acccumulation Ah, now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
– Lainathiel
Jun 11 at 4:33
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Option 2, you will get 2x Afterlife 2.
The thing that triggers an additional time is "that ability", based on the wording of Teysa Karlov. And "that ability" in this case is "Afterlife 2". So "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, meaning that on the stack you get both "Afterlife 2" and "Afterlife 2".
The first interpretation would require seeing Afterlife 2 as an ability that triggers twice, and then triggering 3 times instead. But nothing about Afterlife 2 is an ability that triggers twice. It is an ability that triggers once, and just happens to have an effect that involves the number 2.
This hinges on the definition of a triggered ability:
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
Whatever the number "afterlife" is; afterlife itself is a triggered ability:
702.134. Afterlife
702.134a Afterlife is a triggered ability. “Afterlife N” means “When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.”
From the wording on the Afterlife rules, you can see that under normal circumstances, when a creature with Afterlife 2 dies, only 1 ability would trigger and be put on the stack. That ability would cause 2 tokens to be created when it resolves.
Teysa Karlov makes this 1 ability trigger an additional time (triggering twice instead of once). So you get 2 separate instances of "create 2 tokens" on the stack, instead of the normal 1. You would choose the order that they are placed on the stack, though because they are identical to each other, the order is meaningless. Then each of them would resolve independently.
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Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
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@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
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I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
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Option 2, you will get 2x Afterlife 2.
The thing that triggers an additional time is "that ability", based on the wording of Teysa Karlov. And "that ability" in this case is "Afterlife 2". So "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, meaning that on the stack you get both "Afterlife 2" and "Afterlife 2".
The first interpretation would require seeing Afterlife 2 as an ability that triggers twice, and then triggering 3 times instead. But nothing about Afterlife 2 is an ability that triggers twice. It is an ability that triggers once, and just happens to have an effect that involves the number 2.
This hinges on the definition of a triggered ability:
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
Whatever the number "afterlife" is; afterlife itself is a triggered ability:
702.134. Afterlife
702.134a Afterlife is a triggered ability. “Afterlife N” means “When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.”
From the wording on the Afterlife rules, you can see that under normal circumstances, when a creature with Afterlife 2 dies, only 1 ability would trigger and be put on the stack. That ability would cause 2 tokens to be created when it resolves.
Teysa Karlov makes this 1 ability trigger an additional time (triggering twice instead of once). So you get 2 separate instances of "create 2 tokens" on the stack, instead of the normal 1. You would choose the order that they are placed on the stack, though because they are identical to each other, the order is meaningless. Then each of them would resolve independently.
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Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
2
@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
4
I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
add a comment |
Option 2, you will get 2x Afterlife 2.
The thing that triggers an additional time is "that ability", based on the wording of Teysa Karlov. And "that ability" in this case is "Afterlife 2". So "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, meaning that on the stack you get both "Afterlife 2" and "Afterlife 2".
The first interpretation would require seeing Afterlife 2 as an ability that triggers twice, and then triggering 3 times instead. But nothing about Afterlife 2 is an ability that triggers twice. It is an ability that triggers once, and just happens to have an effect that involves the number 2.
This hinges on the definition of a triggered ability:
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
Whatever the number "afterlife" is; afterlife itself is a triggered ability:
702.134. Afterlife
702.134a Afterlife is a triggered ability. “Afterlife N” means “When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.”
From the wording on the Afterlife rules, you can see that under normal circumstances, when a creature with Afterlife 2 dies, only 1 ability would trigger and be put on the stack. That ability would cause 2 tokens to be created when it resolves.
Teysa Karlov makes this 1 ability trigger an additional time (triggering twice instead of once). So you get 2 separate instances of "create 2 tokens" on the stack, instead of the normal 1. You would choose the order that they are placed on the stack, though because they are identical to each other, the order is meaningless. Then each of them would resolve independently.
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Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
2
@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
4
I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
add a comment |
Option 2, you will get 2x Afterlife 2.
The thing that triggers an additional time is "that ability", based on the wording of Teysa Karlov. And "that ability" in this case is "Afterlife 2". So "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, meaning that on the stack you get both "Afterlife 2" and "Afterlife 2".
The first interpretation would require seeing Afterlife 2 as an ability that triggers twice, and then triggering 3 times instead. But nothing about Afterlife 2 is an ability that triggers twice. It is an ability that triggers once, and just happens to have an effect that involves the number 2.
This hinges on the definition of a triggered ability:
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
Whatever the number "afterlife" is; afterlife itself is a triggered ability:
702.134. Afterlife
702.134a Afterlife is a triggered ability. “Afterlife N” means “When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.”
From the wording on the Afterlife rules, you can see that under normal circumstances, when a creature with Afterlife 2 dies, only 1 ability would trigger and be put on the stack. That ability would cause 2 tokens to be created when it resolves.
Teysa Karlov makes this 1 ability trigger an additional time (triggering twice instead of once). So you get 2 separate instances of "create 2 tokens" on the stack, instead of the normal 1. You would choose the order that they are placed on the stack, though because they are identical to each other, the order is meaningless. Then each of them would resolve independently.
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Option 2, you will get 2x Afterlife 2.
The thing that triggers an additional time is "that ability", based on the wording of Teysa Karlov. And "that ability" in this case is "Afterlife 2". So "Afterlife 2" triggers an additional time, meaning that on the stack you get both "Afterlife 2" and "Afterlife 2".
The first interpretation would require seeing Afterlife 2 as an ability that triggers twice, and then triggering 3 times instead. But nothing about Afterlife 2 is an ability that triggers twice. It is an ability that triggers once, and just happens to have an effect that involves the number 2.
This hinges on the definition of a triggered ability:
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
Whatever the number "afterlife" is; afterlife itself is a triggered ability:
702.134. Afterlife
702.134a Afterlife is a triggered ability. “Afterlife N” means “When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.”
From the wording on the Afterlife rules, you can see that under normal circumstances, when a creature with Afterlife 2 dies, only 1 ability would trigger and be put on the stack. That ability would cause 2 tokens to be created when it resolves.
Teysa Karlov makes this 1 ability trigger an additional time (triggering twice instead of once). So you get 2 separate instances of "create 2 tokens" on the stack, instead of the normal 1. You would choose the order that they are placed on the stack, though because they are identical to each other, the order is meaningless. Then each of them would resolve independently.
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Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
2
@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
4
I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
add a comment |
Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
2
@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
4
I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
Thanks a lot! Could you also please add the ruling (of where I could find it) that supports your claim?
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 13:03
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@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
@Lainathiel There doesn't seem to be a specific ruling or comprehensive rule to point to here; it's more an issue of what a triggered ability is... I will edit to include the rules for that bit. But I would actaully recommend not accepting the answer just yet; others may come along with an even better response that includes a helpful rule I overlooked.
– GendoIkari
Jun 10 at 13:15
4
4
I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
I think the important rule here is in fact 702.134a that you already quoted. It specifically says that Afterlife N is a single triggered ability that creates multiple spirits.
– murgatroid99♦
Jun 10 at 16:36
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Even if you're treating Afterlife 2 as being two triggers of Afterlife 1, each of those triggers is doubled by Teysa Karlov, so you get 4 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying either way.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 21:49
@Acccumulation Note that her ability states it triggers an additional time, not that it doubles the triggers.
– Lainathiel
Jun 10 at 23:26
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I think it amounts to the same thing. Suppose Ministrant of Obligation instead said "When this creature dies, create a 1/1 creature, then creature another 1/1 creature." You would have two triggers, and each of those triggers would cause Teysa Karlov to trigger.
– Acccumulation
Jun 10 at 23:30
@Acccumulation Ah, now I get it. Thanks for clearing that up!
– Lainathiel
Jun 11 at 4:33