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Are there J.S. Bach pieces that do not start with the tonic chord?
Are there any machine-readable databases of chord progressions available?Chord in the Bach d-minor preludeDid J.S. Bach write the figured bass in scores or continuo parts?Why has the vi chord no tonic function, i.e. what gives a chord its function?What are some good classical pieces to start learning analysis for the beginner?Can anyone help with the use of a “Non Chord tone” in Arctic Monkeys' “R U Mine?”Is the diminished chord of the minor scale not used as much as the others?Should I practice some J.S. Bach for piano technique and where should I start?Why do some phrygian dominant pieces end on the iv chord?A♭ major 9th chord in Bach is unexpectedly dissonant/jazzy
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I know some simple pieces where the initial phrase starts in the IV chord or the V chord, but I'm wondering if Bach used to do that.
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I know some simple pieces where the initial phrase starts in the IV chord or the V chord, but I'm wondering if Bach used to do that.
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BWV 54 starts with a dominant chord clashing strongly with the bass note implying the tonic. (In general, "Did Bach ever..." questions tend to have the answer yes.)
– Kilian Foth
Jul 14 at 15:14
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I know some simple pieces where the initial phrase starts in the IV chord or the V chord, but I'm wondering if Bach used to do that.
theory chord-theory chord-progressions key j-s-bach
asked Jul 13 at 21:21
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I know some simple pieces where the initial phrase starts in the IV chord or the V chord, but I'm wondering if Bach used to do that.
theory chord-theory chord-progressions key j-s-bach
theory chord-theory chord-progressions key j-s-bach
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BWV 54 starts with a dominant chord clashing strongly with the bass note implying the tonic. (In general, "Did Bach ever..." questions tend to have the answer yes.)
– Kilian Foth
Jul 14 at 15:14
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BWV 54 starts with a dominant chord clashing strongly with the bass note implying the tonic. (In general, "Did Bach ever..." questions tend to have the answer yes.)
– Kilian Foth
Jul 14 at 15:14
BWV 54 starts with a dominant chord clashing strongly with the bass note implying the tonic. (In general, "Did Bach ever..." questions tend to have the answer yes.)
– Kilian Foth
Jul 14 at 15:14
BWV 54 starts with a dominant chord clashing strongly with the bass note implying the tonic. (In general, "Did Bach ever..." questions tend to have the answer yes.)
– Kilian Foth
Jul 14 at 15:14
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Generally speaking Bach likes to establish the home key chord at the beginning of his pieces, but I did find some exceptions on a cursory look through my scores. For example, in Book II of the keyboard Partitas, the Courante of No. 5 has an upbeat based
on the dominant. And the Gigue of the same Partita does something similar, with the home key chord of G only happening on the second beat of the first full bar. I am sure with a far fuller investigation, many more examples could be found.
answered Jul 13 at 22:44
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In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
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Generally speaking Bach likes to establish the home key chord at the beginning of his pieces, but I did find some exceptions on a cursory look through my scores. For example, in Book II of the keyboard Partitas, the Courante of No. 5 has an upbeat based
on the dominant. And the Gigue of the same Partita does something similar, with the home key chord of G only happening on the second beat of the first full bar. I am sure with a far fuller investigation, many more examples could be found.
answered Jul 13 at 22:44
JomiddnzJomiddnz
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In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
Jul 14 at 23:09
add a comment |
Generally speaking Bach likes to establish the home key chord at the beginning of his pieces, but I did find some exceptions on a cursory look through my scores. For example, in Book II of the keyboard Partitas, the Courante of No. 5 has an upbeat based
on the dominant. And the Gigue of the same Partita does something similar, with the home key chord of G only happening on the second beat of the first full bar. I am sure with a far fuller investigation, many more examples could be found.
answered Jul 13 at 22:44
JomiddnzJomiddnz
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In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
Jul 14 at 23:09
add a comment |
Generally speaking Bach likes to establish the home key chord at the beginning of his pieces, but I did find some exceptions on a cursory look through my scores. For example, in Book II of the keyboard Partitas, the Courante of No. 5 has an upbeat based
on the dominant. And the Gigue of the same Partita does something similar, with the home key chord of G only happening on the second beat of the first full bar. I am sure with a far fuller investigation, many more examples could be found.
answered Jul 13 at 22:44
JomiddnzJomiddnz
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Generally speaking Bach likes to establish the home key chord at the beginning of his pieces, but I did find some exceptions on a cursory look through my scores. For example, in Book II of the keyboard Partitas, the Courante of No. 5 has an upbeat based
on the dominant. And the Gigue of the same Partita does something similar, with the home key chord of G only happening on the second beat of the first full bar. I am sure with a far fuller investigation, many more examples could be found.
answered Jul 13 at 22:44
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answered Jul 13 at 22:44
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In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
Jul 14 at 23:09
add a comment |
In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
Jul 14 at 23:09
In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
In the Courante, do you mean the first three 16th notes? That is interesting in and of itself. But it is more of a decoration for the next G. I'm looking for more of a phrase in a different chord, like in Dark Eyes: youtu.be/LSX-79rwKGE
– Wynne
Jul 14 at 3:42
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
Jul 14 at 23:09
Try the Gigue of the same Partita (my second example). It starts with a juicy D9 chord!
– Jomiddnz
Jul 14 at 23:09
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BWV 54 starts with a dominant chord clashing strongly with the bass note implying the tonic. (In general, "Did Bach ever..." questions tend to have the answer yes.)
– Kilian Foth
Jul 14 at 15:14