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Can a Knight grant Knighthood to another?
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Favourite questions and answers from the 1st quarter of 2019What is the perception of Tyrion's story about his cousin Orson and the beetles?What motivated Cersei to engage with Lancel Lannister?Why did Cersei Lannister start a physical relationship with her brother Jaime?What does Jaime Lannister say he wants at the beginning of season four?Why does Barristan the Bold accept the pardon from Robert Barratheon?Was this Cersei's plan?Why did nobody know about the wildfire?How does Eddard Stark know that Bran saw Cersei and Jaime together?Why are the Queensguard in Game of Thrones (S07) wearing black armour?Why did Littlefinger not ask for evidence in trial?
In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime Lannister said,
“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".
But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else knight by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?
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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime Lannister said,
“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".
But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else knight by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?
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For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?
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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime Lannister said,
“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".
But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else knight by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?
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In Game of Thrones S08E02, Jaime Lannister said,
“You don’t need a king. Any knight can make another knight".
But is it right in the context of Game of Thrones? Is it legal to make anyone else knight by a knight himself? Is it analogous to the real world?
plot-explanation game-of-thrones realism
plot-explanation game-of-thrones realism
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For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?
– Aegon
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For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?
– Aegon
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For historical context from books, Cross-site Related/dupes: What are benefits of knighthood?, Knighthood requirements, How to make knighthood stick?
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Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:
To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.
In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):
Berric Dondarion knights Gendry
For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
2
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
I have an example from the books, it's from the Hedge Knight novel.
EDIT: After seeing the episode, emphasis mine as direct quotes from the show.
“Hmpf.” The man Plummer rubbed his nose. “Any knight can make a
knight, it is true, though it is more customary to stand a vigil and be
anointed by a septon before taking your vows. Were there any witnesses
to your dubbing?”
And later at the tournament
“Knight me.” Raymun put a hand on Dunk’s shoulder and turned him. “I
will take my cousin’s place. Ser Duncan, knight me.” He went to one
knee.
Frowning, Dunk moved a hand to the hilt of his longsword, then
hesitated. “Raymun, I . . . I should not.”
“You must. Without me, you
are only five.”
“The lad has the truth of it,” said Ser Lyonel
Baratheon. “Do it, Ser Duncan. Any knight can make a knight.”
“Do you
doubt my courage?” Raymun asked.
“No,” said Dunk. “Not that, but . . .“ Still he hesitated.
A fanfare of trumpets cut the misty morning
air. Egg came running up to them. “Ser, Lord Ashford summons you.
The
Laughing Storm gave an impatient shake of the head. “Go to him, Ser
Duncan. I’ll give squire Raymun his knighthood.” He slid his sword out
of his sheath and shouldered Dunk aside. “Raymun of House Fossoway,” he
began solemnly, touching the blade to the squire’s right shoulder, “in
the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave.” The sword moved from
his right shoulder to his left. “In the name of the Father I charge you
to be just.” Back to the right. “In the name of the Mother I charge
you to defend the young and innocent.” The left. “In the name of the
Maid I charge you to protect all women.”
Dunk left them there, feeling
as relieved as he was guilty.
answered 2 days ago
ZikatoZikato
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The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
2 days ago
1
@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
2 days ago
4
@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
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2 Answers
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active
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Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:
To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.
In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):
Berric Dondarion knights Gendry
For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
2
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:
To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.
In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):
Berric Dondarion knights Gendry
For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
2
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:
To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.
In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):
Berric Dondarion knights Gendry
For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
Yes. In the shows this is the first time we've known rules about a knighthood been stated, so there's no other claim to compare it to. But, lucky for us, GRRM has stated it's either a knight or a King, but not a lord unless he's a Knight himself:
To settle an old debate on EZBoard, any king can make a knight but any lord cannot. That lord must be a knight as well. So Baelor I could make knights but Eddard could not. George said the more important thing for kings is making lords. The problem is giving lands.
In the books there is one notable example (spoiler alert, as this does not happen in the show):
Berric Dondarion knights Gendry
For the final part of your question: in real life there have been many types of knighthoods, some military, some just a title, some hereditary, ... . So there is not a fixed ruleset on becoming a knight. I'm not sure if GRRM based his knights on some real order, but it seems more likely he invented his own order for Westerosi knights and his rules are all that matter.
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
answered 2 days ago
KillianDSKillianDS
2,0481621
2,0481621
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
2
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
2
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
If I remember correctly there was a law made relatively late in medieval times that prohibited knights from raising commoners to knighthood, but I can't think of the reference right now.
– sgf
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
The quote you provided doesn't say "either a knight or a King"; it says nothing about knights who aren't lords.
– NotThatGuy
2 days ago
2
2
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
It was funny how Coster-Waldau read that line, like it was some revelation. Every Southron in that room would have known that, including Brienne. Also, your link is broken.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai - FWIW, the link works for me.
– T.J. Crowder
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
@AzorAhai The line is prompted by Tormund's comment about how if he was King he'd Knight her ten times over. Jaimie then responds, as a point of clarification to Tormund, who really wouldn't know this, that a King isn't necessary. Everyone else is slightly astonished and eager to watch things unfold because, as Brienne says, knighting a woman is against tradition and this is, as such, essentially unheard of. It's a powerful display of Jaimie's respect that a tradition-bound knight follows Tormund's lead and says "fook tradition, you deserve to be a knight".
– zibadawa timmy
yesterday
|
show 1 more comment
I have an example from the books, it's from the Hedge Knight novel.
EDIT: After seeing the episode, emphasis mine as direct quotes from the show.
“Hmpf.” The man Plummer rubbed his nose. “Any knight can make a
knight, it is true, though it is more customary to stand a vigil and be
anointed by a septon before taking your vows. Were there any witnesses
to your dubbing?”
And later at the tournament
“Knight me.” Raymun put a hand on Dunk’s shoulder and turned him. “I
will take my cousin’s place. Ser Duncan, knight me.” He went to one
knee.
Frowning, Dunk moved a hand to the hilt of his longsword, then
hesitated. “Raymun, I . . . I should not.”
“You must. Without me, you
are only five.”
“The lad has the truth of it,” said Ser Lyonel
Baratheon. “Do it, Ser Duncan. Any knight can make a knight.”
“Do you
doubt my courage?” Raymun asked.
“No,” said Dunk. “Not that, but . . .“ Still he hesitated.
A fanfare of trumpets cut the misty morning
air. Egg came running up to them. “Ser, Lord Ashford summons you.
The
Laughing Storm gave an impatient shake of the head. “Go to him, Ser
Duncan. I’ll give squire Raymun his knighthood.” He slid his sword out
of his sheath and shouldered Dunk aside. “Raymun of House Fossoway,” he
began solemnly, touching the blade to the squire’s right shoulder, “in
the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave.” The sword moved from
his right shoulder to his left. “In the name of the Father I charge you
to be just.” Back to the right. “In the name of the Mother I charge
you to defend the young and innocent.” The left. “In the name of the
Maid I charge you to protect all women.”
Dunk left them there, feeling
as relieved as he was guilty.
answered 2 days ago
ZikatoZikato
49436
The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
2 days ago
1
@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
2 days ago
4
@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
add a comment |
I have an example from the books, it's from the Hedge Knight novel.
EDIT: After seeing the episode, emphasis mine as direct quotes from the show.
“Hmpf.” The man Plummer rubbed his nose. “Any knight can make a
knight, it is true, though it is more customary to stand a vigil and be
anointed by a septon before taking your vows. Were there any witnesses
to your dubbing?”
And later at the tournament
“Knight me.” Raymun put a hand on Dunk’s shoulder and turned him. “I
will take my cousin’s place. Ser Duncan, knight me.” He went to one
knee.
Frowning, Dunk moved a hand to the hilt of his longsword, then
hesitated. “Raymun, I . . . I should not.”
“You must. Without me, you
are only five.”
“The lad has the truth of it,” said Ser Lyonel
Baratheon. “Do it, Ser Duncan. Any knight can make a knight.”
“Do you
doubt my courage?” Raymun asked.
“No,” said Dunk. “Not that, but . . .“ Still he hesitated.
A fanfare of trumpets cut the misty morning
air. Egg came running up to them. “Ser, Lord Ashford summons you.
The
Laughing Storm gave an impatient shake of the head. “Go to him, Ser
Duncan. I’ll give squire Raymun his knighthood.” He slid his sword out
of his sheath and shouldered Dunk aside. “Raymun of House Fossoway,” he
began solemnly, touching the blade to the squire’s right shoulder, “in
the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave.” The sword moved from
his right shoulder to his left. “In the name of the Father I charge you
to be just.” Back to the right. “In the name of the Mother I charge
you to defend the young and innocent.” The left. “In the name of the
Maid I charge you to protect all women.”
Dunk left them there, feeling
as relieved as he was guilty.
answered 2 days ago
ZikatoZikato
49436
The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
2 days ago
1
@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
2 days ago
4
@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
add a comment |
I have an example from the books, it's from the Hedge Knight novel.
EDIT: After seeing the episode, emphasis mine as direct quotes from the show.
“Hmpf.” The man Plummer rubbed his nose. “Any knight can make a
knight, it is true, though it is more customary to stand a vigil and be
anointed by a septon before taking your vows. Were there any witnesses
to your dubbing?”
And later at the tournament
“Knight me.” Raymun put a hand on Dunk’s shoulder and turned him. “I
will take my cousin’s place. Ser Duncan, knight me.” He went to one
knee.
Frowning, Dunk moved a hand to the hilt of his longsword, then
hesitated. “Raymun, I . . . I should not.”
“You must. Without me, you
are only five.”
“The lad has the truth of it,” said Ser Lyonel
Baratheon. “Do it, Ser Duncan. Any knight can make a knight.”
“Do you
doubt my courage?” Raymun asked.
“No,” said Dunk. “Not that, but . . .“ Still he hesitated.
A fanfare of trumpets cut the misty morning
air. Egg came running up to them. “Ser, Lord Ashford summons you.
The
Laughing Storm gave an impatient shake of the head. “Go to him, Ser
Duncan. I’ll give squire Raymun his knighthood.” He slid his sword out
of his sheath and shouldered Dunk aside. “Raymun of House Fossoway,” he
began solemnly, touching the blade to the squire’s right shoulder, “in
the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave.” The sword moved from
his right shoulder to his left. “In the name of the Father I charge you
to be just.” Back to the right. “In the name of the Mother I charge
you to defend the young and innocent.” The left. “In the name of the
Maid I charge you to protect all women.”
Dunk left them there, feeling
as relieved as he was guilty.
answered 2 days ago
ZikatoZikato
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I have an example from the books, it's from the Hedge Knight novel.
EDIT: After seeing the episode, emphasis mine as direct quotes from the show.
“Hmpf.” The man Plummer rubbed his nose. “Any knight can make a
knight, it is true, though it is more customary to stand a vigil and be
anointed by a septon before taking your vows. Were there any witnesses
to your dubbing?”
And later at the tournament
“Knight me.” Raymun put a hand on Dunk’s shoulder and turned him. “I
will take my cousin’s place. Ser Duncan, knight me.” He went to one
knee.
Frowning, Dunk moved a hand to the hilt of his longsword, then
hesitated. “Raymun, I . . . I should not.”
“You must. Without me, you
are only five.”
“The lad has the truth of it,” said Ser Lyonel
Baratheon. “Do it, Ser Duncan. Any knight can make a knight.”
“Do you
doubt my courage?” Raymun asked.
“No,” said Dunk. “Not that, but . . .“ Still he hesitated.
A fanfare of trumpets cut the misty morning
air. Egg came running up to them. “Ser, Lord Ashford summons you.
The
Laughing Storm gave an impatient shake of the head. “Go to him, Ser
Duncan. I’ll give squire Raymun his knighthood.” He slid his sword out
of his sheath and shouldered Dunk aside. “Raymun of House Fossoway,” he
began solemnly, touching the blade to the squire’s right shoulder, “in
the name of the Warrior I charge you to be brave.” The sword moved from
his right shoulder to his left. “In the name of the Father I charge you
to be just.” Back to the right. “In the name of the Mother I charge
you to defend the young and innocent.” The left. “In the name of the
Maid I charge you to protect all women.”
Dunk left them there, feeling
as relieved as he was guilty.
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The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
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@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
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@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
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The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
2 days ago
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@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
2 days ago
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@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
2 days ago
The point there being that Dunk is almost certainly not actually a knight.
– curiousdannii
2 days ago
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@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
2 days ago
@curiousdannii Duncan is almost certainly not an actual knight, himself. But if he were, then he would have been able to knight Raymun Fossoway.
– Raj
2 days ago
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4
@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
@Raj More precisely, he would have known how to in this scene.
– Azor Ahai
2 days ago
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– Aegon
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