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Most effective melee weapons for arboreal combat? (pre-gunpowder technology)
New blog post: When Gods FearHow advanced or effective weapons can be created from mostly animal body parts?Space weaponry?Why would giant mechs use melee weapons?What would be the most effective melee weapon against heavily armored opponent?Making optimized melee weapons for specific style of combat with nanotechnology pt.1What weapons would be most effective for a military in space?Suitable melee or ranged weapons for weak mages?Nanocellulose swords/ melee weaponsDeciding between two methods of keeping people from using technology in combat in my urban fantasy settingWeapons for a tabletop game
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The creatures I am working with are primate-like, hexapodal aliens with a terrestrial/ arboreal lifestyle. On flat land they are able to walk bipedally, freeing up their top 4 arms for manipulating objects. In trees or tree-like structures, they tend to use 4 or all 6 limbs. (Although technically they could get around using only 3 since they have poseable feet)
Ground-based combat would be fairly similar to humans, but with this information in mind, What weapons/ methods would be most effective for arboreal combat? Assume that they have at least 1 or 2 hands available, and that this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons. To avoid falling to one's death, weapons that are likely to shift the user's center of mass around should be taken with caution. The technology level can be anything available before the invention of gunpowder.
Finally, the weapons in question don't necessarily have to be orthodox in regards to "regular" combat, any hand-held method of removing the enemy's life is allowed.
biology technology weapons medieval
asked Apr 20 at 19:59
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The creatures I am working with are primate-like, hexapodal aliens with a terrestrial/ arboreal lifestyle. On flat land they are able to walk bipedally, freeing up their top 4 arms for manipulating objects. In trees or tree-like structures, they tend to use 4 or all 6 limbs. (Although technically they could get around using only 3 since they have poseable feet)
Ground-based combat would be fairly similar to humans, but with this information in mind, What weapons/ methods would be most effective for arboreal combat? Assume that they have at least 1 or 2 hands available, and that this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons. To avoid falling to one's death, weapons that are likely to shift the user's center of mass around should be taken with caution. The technology level can be anything available before the invention of gunpowder.
Finally, the weapons in question don't necessarily have to be orthodox in regards to "regular" combat, any hand-held method of removing the enemy's life is allowed.
biology technology weapons medieval
asked Apr 20 at 19:59
Foosic17Foosic17
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How about a saw? ;)
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– MarielS
Apr 20 at 20:51
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Not sure whether it is relevant, but if the network of branches in the arboreal regions is suitable, and also their strength/body mass ratio is good enough, then they can move relatively freely in 3D. This may certainly effect the melee tactics. Not quite like fighter planes in a dog fight, but not a 1-on-1 swordfight either. Is the field of vision of your creatures also adapted to 3D life, or are they stuck with a single pair of eyes like us?
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
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"this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons". What's wrong with crossbows? Tactics similar to cavalry with early pistols would be effective enough. Shoot, then move to 3rd line then reload then repeat.
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– ADS
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The creatures I am working with are primate-like, hexapodal aliens with a terrestrial/ arboreal lifestyle. On flat land they are able to walk bipedally, freeing up their top 4 arms for manipulating objects. In trees or tree-like structures, they tend to use 4 or all 6 limbs. (Although technically they could get around using only 3 since they have poseable feet)
Ground-based combat would be fairly similar to humans, but with this information in mind, What weapons/ methods would be most effective for arboreal combat? Assume that they have at least 1 or 2 hands available, and that this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons. To avoid falling to one's death, weapons that are likely to shift the user's center of mass around should be taken with caution. The technology level can be anything available before the invention of gunpowder.
Finally, the weapons in question don't necessarily have to be orthodox in regards to "regular" combat, any hand-held method of removing the enemy's life is allowed.
biology technology weapons medieval
asked Apr 20 at 19:59
Foosic17Foosic17
39329
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The creatures I am working with are primate-like, hexapodal aliens with a terrestrial/ arboreal lifestyle. On flat land they are able to walk bipedally, freeing up their top 4 arms for manipulating objects. In trees or tree-like structures, they tend to use 4 or all 6 limbs. (Although technically they could get around using only 3 since they have poseable feet)
Ground-based combat would be fairly similar to humans, but with this information in mind, What weapons/ methods would be most effective for arboreal combat? Assume that they have at least 1 or 2 hands available, and that this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons. To avoid falling to one's death, weapons that are likely to shift the user's center of mass around should be taken with caution. The technology level can be anything available before the invention of gunpowder.
Finally, the weapons in question don't necessarily have to be orthodox in regards to "regular" combat, any hand-held method of removing the enemy's life is allowed.
biology technology weapons medieval
biology technology weapons medieval
asked Apr 20 at 19:59
Foosic17Foosic17
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asked Apr 20 at 19:59
Foosic17Foosic17
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asked Apr 20 at 19:59
Foosic17Foosic17
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asked Apr 20 at 19:59
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asked Apr 20 at 19:59
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How about a saw? ;)
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– MarielS
Apr 20 at 20:51
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Not sure whether it is relevant, but if the network of branches in the arboreal regions is suitable, and also their strength/body mass ratio is good enough, then they can move relatively freely in 3D. This may certainly effect the melee tactics. Not quite like fighter planes in a dog fight, but not a 1-on-1 swordfight either. Is the field of vision of your creatures also adapted to 3D life, or are they stuck with a single pair of eyes like us?
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
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"this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons". What's wrong with crossbows? Tactics similar to cavalry with early pistols would be effective enough. Shoot, then move to 3rd line then reload then repeat.
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– ADS
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How about a saw? ;)
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– MarielS
Apr 20 at 20:51
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Not sure whether it is relevant, but if the network of branches in the arboreal regions is suitable, and also their strength/body mass ratio is good enough, then they can move relatively freely in 3D. This may certainly effect the melee tactics. Not quite like fighter planes in a dog fight, but not a 1-on-1 swordfight either. Is the field of vision of your creatures also adapted to 3D life, or are they stuck with a single pair of eyes like us?
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
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"this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons". What's wrong with crossbows? Tactics similar to cavalry with early pistols would be effective enough. Shoot, then move to 3rd line then reload then repeat.
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– ADS
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How about a saw? ;)
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– MarielS
Apr 20 at 20:51
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How about a saw? ;)
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– MarielS
Apr 20 at 20:51
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Not sure whether it is relevant, but if the network of branches in the arboreal regions is suitable, and also their strength/body mass ratio is good enough, then they can move relatively freely in 3D. This may certainly effect the melee tactics. Not quite like fighter planes in a dog fight, but not a 1-on-1 swordfight either. Is the field of vision of your creatures also adapted to 3D life, or are they stuck with a single pair of eyes like us?
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
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Not sure whether it is relevant, but if the network of branches in the arboreal regions is suitable, and also their strength/body mass ratio is good enough, then they can move relatively freely in 3D. This may certainly effect the melee tactics. Not quite like fighter planes in a dog fight, but not a 1-on-1 swordfight either. Is the field of vision of your creatures also adapted to 3D life, or are they stuck with a single pair of eyes like us?
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
2 days ago
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"this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons". What's wrong with crossbows? Tactics similar to cavalry with early pistols would be effective enough. Shoot, then move to 3rd line then reload then repeat.
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– ADS
2 days ago
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"this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons". What's wrong with crossbows? Tactics similar to cavalry with early pistols would be effective enough. Shoot, then move to 3rd line then reload then repeat.
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– ADS
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Spears and Clubs
By far some of the simplest and easiest weapons to use and make, spears and clubs have been used as weapons since the dawn of Man, and for good reason. If your creatures have four arms, they can use all of them on a spear and deliver a very powerful strike. Or a spear can be used in just one hand if needed. The same goes for a club.
The spear would likely be your best choice, you can use it from a distance and all you need to do it thrust it towards someone. Spears would also be good against people who were in trees as well, they have a long reach so you can easily stab someone in the trees. Pikes may also be an option, they’re basically just longer spears, may be good for very high trees.
In reality, any melee weapon can be used effectively, you may need some way of keeping yourself attached to the tree, maybe via a harness or just using your other limbs. Here are some videos demonstrating how a four-armed creature may use melee weapons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZz06vgKSFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAy475VqIo
War Darts
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH4220N&name=Late+Roman+Plumbata+War%2DDart+%2D+Small
War darts, called plumbata by the Romans, were basically darts that were thrown at your enemy. They had a weight on them to give the dart a bit more stopping power. Your creatures could carry these, throwing them at targets if they are on the ground and dropping them on targets if the creatures are in the trees. Similar weapons were used by WW1 pilots, dropping darts onto planes below them. A more crude option is to just use rocks.
Bagh Nakh or Shuko
https://www.allcombat.com/shop-gear/hand-claws/
Meant as tools for climbing trees, these can also be used as effective weapons. They are often called tiger claws because of their shape and how, when you strike with them, its like you are clawing your target like you are a tiger. These would also fit well into the theme of these creatures climbing trees, you could say its very tree-matic.
Grappling Hook
An unconventional weapon to be sure, it is primarily a tool meant for climbing or attaching an anchor a far away point. However, being made of steel, if you got hit with one of these i don’t think you’d be walking away. You may also be able to drop it down, hook someone under the chin or arm and hoist them off the ground.
Again it fits very well into this idea of the creatures climbing trees, it would not be ideal for tree-to-tree combat though as it would likely get stuck on all the branches. Although, that could be useful for shaking branches to make them fall. You could also hook it behind a leg and pull them out of the tree.
Handsaws or Wood Axes
Whilst not effective weapons per se, you could easily use them to kill someone. Simply saw or chop part of the way through some large branches, when your enemy steps on it the branch will break under their weight, causing them to fall to the ground and break their bone. Or you could cut part way into the whole tree and fell it when they are in its branches.
answered Apr 20 at 20:10
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
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As stability and maneuverability are very important for fights in the canopy blade weapons are going to be chosen over blunt, top-heavy weapons (maces and axes) and long weapons (spears and polearms). One-handed blades (knives, short swords, arming swords, falchion, and sabers) seem better than two-handed ones (long or great swords) for this reason.
You excluded ranged weapons from this discussion, but I´m still going to mention them because I´m a completionist. Bows and crossbows could fit into two different functional groups. Crossbows and big, powerful bows (longbow) would serve as sniper weapons while rapidly firable, small bows (short bows) will be used by raiders. Think steppe-nomad tactics. Blowing darts might be interesting if strong poisons are commonly available. There is also a large variety of one-handed ranged options (rock, knife, sling, axe, javelin, ...). That said javelins might also be a one-handed melee option with an added throwing option. Let's call these "hurling spears" and imagine them to look like Roman pila or Zulu spears.
For shields, I think small ones like bucklers are much better for canopy mobility than large ones (round shields, kite shields, ...). Great shields for missile infantry might be a good idea for sieges and drawn out fights involving ranged units.
Armor wise I think metal would not be a great idea since due to stamina issues. While full plate armor is way less limiting than most people think (scaling climbing walls and doing handstands is quite possible), the three-dimensional nature and obvious opportunity for stealth in arboreal warfare make linen (gambesons are awesome), leather, wood, and bone armor quite appealing. If you need to limit the weight go for helmets and hand protection and some light body armor. The first two spots are vital and very prone to injury.
Let's conclude this with outfitting the perfect warrior
He´s got a metal helmet and metal gauntlets and the rest of his body is covered in linen armor reinforced with wood or bamboo and bones. There are lashes allowing easy conversion into a ghillie suit. Let´s give him a buckler and some kind of short sword (go for aesthetics you like, roman gladius or sparta, saxon-sword, falchion (anti cloth armor) or some kind of saber (*)). Additionally, he´ll need two belts to hold a back mounted, closable quiver for hurling-spears and for lashes holding a collection of throwing weapons or poison darts. These are disposable and kill using poisons. If poisons aren´t widely and cheaply available, either forget about these or upgrade to knives and throwing hatchets.
*"Have you seen these warriors from Hammerfell? They got curved swords. Big. Curved. Long........ SWORDS." [source: The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]
answered Apr 20 at 20:48
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
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While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
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– TheDyingOfLight
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True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
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You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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While the first two commentors already had very good ideas, I'd like to add some more:
A double-ended halberd would be useful both for climbing in trees and for combat. It allows usage like a lance, like an axe (for damaging branches, too) and as a grappling hook to offset the balance of your opponent or to grab a branch for climbing or manipulating against an enemy. One side could be simpler (a wooden spear and a hook instead of a heavy axe and spear tip), so it's lighter and can better be thrown (which would only be done when someone is sure to be able to recover it, or in an ermergency when it would be too heavy to carry but might bring down one of the many approaching enemies).
A one-ended/normal but short version of a halberd could be the improved sword of the trees.
A pick-axe as used by mountain climbers would also work well in trees and could have a normal axe (and hook) on the back. It would be a good short-range weapon - the dagger of the trees.
A sword with a tip curved back could serve as a hook, would have more slashing options. Like the other weapons, it could use a leather band to allow hanging from it, so the fingers don't have to carry all the weight of an armed and armored fighter and/or the grip can stay optimised for fighting, not for climbing.
A rope can be used to tie down (elastic) branches and release them in different ways to harm approaching enemies. Or to help unroot a few trees between two forests so that enemies have to use the ground. It's also good for ambushes from the side (swinging) or from above, and, with a hook, also from below.
As you will be needing your arms more than your feet in the trees, the feet (I assume ape-like feet from the description) can also do more fighting - by attaching claws or pointy shoes with good grip on branches), by just adding some weight for more punch, and such.
Tree branches and sufficiently elastic trees can also make catapults or good traps (especially with pointy sticks attached at the end).
Something as simple as a shovel can surprise enemies who, used to life in the trees, may not look for fox holes or soil missing around the roots of the trees they are on.
answered Apr 20 at 22:39
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Spears and Clubs
By far some of the simplest and easiest weapons to use and make, spears and clubs have been used as weapons since the dawn of Man, and for good reason. If your creatures have four arms, they can use all of them on a spear and deliver a very powerful strike. Or a spear can be used in just one hand if needed. The same goes for a club.
The spear would likely be your best choice, you can use it from a distance and all you need to do it thrust it towards someone. Spears would also be good against people who were in trees as well, they have a long reach so you can easily stab someone in the trees. Pikes may also be an option, they’re basically just longer spears, may be good for very high trees.
In reality, any melee weapon can be used effectively, you may need some way of keeping yourself attached to the tree, maybe via a harness or just using your other limbs. Here are some videos demonstrating how a four-armed creature may use melee weapons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZz06vgKSFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAy475VqIo
War Darts
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH4220N&name=Late+Roman+Plumbata+War%2DDart+%2D+Small
War darts, called plumbata by the Romans, were basically darts that were thrown at your enemy. They had a weight on them to give the dart a bit more stopping power. Your creatures could carry these, throwing them at targets if they are on the ground and dropping them on targets if the creatures are in the trees. Similar weapons were used by WW1 pilots, dropping darts onto planes below them. A more crude option is to just use rocks.
Bagh Nakh or Shuko
https://www.allcombat.com/shop-gear/hand-claws/
Meant as tools for climbing trees, these can also be used as effective weapons. They are often called tiger claws because of their shape and how, when you strike with them, its like you are clawing your target like you are a tiger. These would also fit well into the theme of these creatures climbing trees, you could say its very tree-matic.
Grappling Hook
An unconventional weapon to be sure, it is primarily a tool meant for climbing or attaching an anchor a far away point. However, being made of steel, if you got hit with one of these i don’t think you’d be walking away. You may also be able to drop it down, hook someone under the chin or arm and hoist them off the ground.
Again it fits very well into this idea of the creatures climbing trees, it would not be ideal for tree-to-tree combat though as it would likely get stuck on all the branches. Although, that could be useful for shaking branches to make them fall. You could also hook it behind a leg and pull them out of the tree.
Handsaws or Wood Axes
Whilst not effective weapons per se, you could easily use them to kill someone. Simply saw or chop part of the way through some large branches, when your enemy steps on it the branch will break under their weight, causing them to fall to the ground and break their bone. Or you could cut part way into the whole tree and fell it when they are in its branches.
answered Apr 20 at 20:10
Liam MorrisLiam Morris
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
2 days ago
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Spears and Clubs
By far some of the simplest and easiest weapons to use and make, spears and clubs have been used as weapons since the dawn of Man, and for good reason. If your creatures have four arms, they can use all of them on a spear and deliver a very powerful strike. Or a spear can be used in just one hand if needed. The same goes for a club.
The spear would likely be your best choice, you can use it from a distance and all you need to do it thrust it towards someone. Spears would also be good against people who were in trees as well, they have a long reach so you can easily stab someone in the trees. Pikes may also be an option, they’re basically just longer spears, may be good for very high trees.
In reality, any melee weapon can be used effectively, you may need some way of keeping yourself attached to the tree, maybe via a harness or just using your other limbs. Here are some videos demonstrating how a four-armed creature may use melee weapons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZz06vgKSFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAy475VqIo
War Darts
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH4220N&name=Late+Roman+Plumbata+War%2DDart+%2D+Small
War darts, called plumbata by the Romans, were basically darts that were thrown at your enemy. They had a weight on them to give the dart a bit more stopping power. Your creatures could carry these, throwing them at targets if they are on the ground and dropping them on targets if the creatures are in the trees. Similar weapons were used by WW1 pilots, dropping darts onto planes below them. A more crude option is to just use rocks.
Bagh Nakh or Shuko
https://www.allcombat.com/shop-gear/hand-claws/
Meant as tools for climbing trees, these can also be used as effective weapons. They are often called tiger claws because of their shape and how, when you strike with them, its like you are clawing your target like you are a tiger. These would also fit well into the theme of these creatures climbing trees, you could say its very tree-matic.
Grappling Hook
An unconventional weapon to be sure, it is primarily a tool meant for climbing or attaching an anchor a far away point. However, being made of steel, if you got hit with one of these i don’t think you’d be walking away. You may also be able to drop it down, hook someone under the chin or arm and hoist them off the ground.
Again it fits very well into this idea of the creatures climbing trees, it would not be ideal for tree-to-tree combat though as it would likely get stuck on all the branches. Although, that could be useful for shaking branches to make them fall. You could also hook it behind a leg and pull them out of the tree.
Handsaws or Wood Axes
Whilst not effective weapons per se, you could easily use them to kill someone. Simply saw or chop part of the way through some large branches, when your enemy steps on it the branch will break under their weight, causing them to fall to the ground and break their bone. Or you could cut part way into the whole tree and fell it when they are in its branches.
answered Apr 20 at 20:10
Liam MorrisLiam Morris
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
2 days ago
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Spears and Clubs
By far some of the simplest and easiest weapons to use and make, spears and clubs have been used as weapons since the dawn of Man, and for good reason. If your creatures have four arms, they can use all of them on a spear and deliver a very powerful strike. Or a spear can be used in just one hand if needed. The same goes for a club.
The spear would likely be your best choice, you can use it from a distance and all you need to do it thrust it towards someone. Spears would also be good against people who were in trees as well, they have a long reach so you can easily stab someone in the trees. Pikes may also be an option, they’re basically just longer spears, may be good for very high trees.
In reality, any melee weapon can be used effectively, you may need some way of keeping yourself attached to the tree, maybe via a harness or just using your other limbs. Here are some videos demonstrating how a four-armed creature may use melee weapons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZz06vgKSFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAy475VqIo
War Darts
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH4220N&name=Late+Roman+Plumbata+War%2DDart+%2D+Small
War darts, called plumbata by the Romans, were basically darts that were thrown at your enemy. They had a weight on them to give the dart a bit more stopping power. Your creatures could carry these, throwing them at targets if they are on the ground and dropping them on targets if the creatures are in the trees. Similar weapons were used by WW1 pilots, dropping darts onto planes below them. A more crude option is to just use rocks.
Bagh Nakh or Shuko
https://www.allcombat.com/shop-gear/hand-claws/
Meant as tools for climbing trees, these can also be used as effective weapons. They are often called tiger claws because of their shape and how, when you strike with them, its like you are clawing your target like you are a tiger. These would also fit well into the theme of these creatures climbing trees, you could say its very tree-matic.
Grappling Hook
An unconventional weapon to be sure, it is primarily a tool meant for climbing or attaching an anchor a far away point. However, being made of steel, if you got hit with one of these i don’t think you’d be walking away. You may also be able to drop it down, hook someone under the chin or arm and hoist them off the ground.
Again it fits very well into this idea of the creatures climbing trees, it would not be ideal for tree-to-tree combat though as it would likely get stuck on all the branches. Although, that could be useful for shaking branches to make them fall. You could also hook it behind a leg and pull them out of the tree.
Handsaws or Wood Axes
Whilst not effective weapons per se, you could easily use them to kill someone. Simply saw or chop part of the way through some large branches, when your enemy steps on it the branch will break under their weight, causing them to fall to the ground and break their bone. Or you could cut part way into the whole tree and fell it when they are in its branches.
answered Apr 20 at 20:10
Liam MorrisLiam Morris
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Spears and Clubs
By far some of the simplest and easiest weapons to use and make, spears and clubs have been used as weapons since the dawn of Man, and for good reason. If your creatures have four arms, they can use all of them on a spear and deliver a very powerful strike. Or a spear can be used in just one hand if needed. The same goes for a club.
The spear would likely be your best choice, you can use it from a distance and all you need to do it thrust it towards someone. Spears would also be good against people who were in trees as well, they have a long reach so you can easily stab someone in the trees. Pikes may also be an option, they’re basically just longer spears, may be good for very high trees.
In reality, any melee weapon can be used effectively, you may need some way of keeping yourself attached to the tree, maybe via a harness or just using your other limbs. Here are some videos demonstrating how a four-armed creature may use melee weapons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZz06vgKSFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoAy475VqIo
War Darts
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH4220N&name=Late+Roman+Plumbata+War%2DDart+%2D+Small
War darts, called plumbata by the Romans, were basically darts that were thrown at your enemy. They had a weight on them to give the dart a bit more stopping power. Your creatures could carry these, throwing them at targets if they are on the ground and dropping them on targets if the creatures are in the trees. Similar weapons were used by WW1 pilots, dropping darts onto planes below them. A more crude option is to just use rocks.
Bagh Nakh or Shuko
https://www.allcombat.com/shop-gear/hand-claws/
Meant as tools for climbing trees, these can also be used as effective weapons. They are often called tiger claws because of their shape and how, when you strike with them, its like you are clawing your target like you are a tiger. These would also fit well into the theme of these creatures climbing trees, you could say its very tree-matic.
Grappling Hook
An unconventional weapon to be sure, it is primarily a tool meant for climbing or attaching an anchor a far away point. However, being made of steel, if you got hit with one of these i don’t think you’d be walking away. You may also be able to drop it down, hook someone under the chin or arm and hoist them off the ground.
Again it fits very well into this idea of the creatures climbing trees, it would not be ideal for tree-to-tree combat though as it would likely get stuck on all the branches. Although, that could be useful for shaking branches to make them fall. You could also hook it behind a leg and pull them out of the tree.
Handsaws or Wood Axes
Whilst not effective weapons per se, you could easily use them to kill someone. Simply saw or chop part of the way through some large branches, when your enemy steps on it the branch will break under their weight, causing them to fall to the ground and break their bone. Or you could cut part way into the whole tree and fell it when they are in its branches.
answered Apr 20 at 20:10
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answered Apr 20 at 20:10
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answered Apr 20 at 20:10
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
2 days ago
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+1 for spears. In pretty much any "which would be the best weapon for X' question...it's usually spears. Although in this case, I'd expect shorter spears as long ones will be easy to get tangled in branches.
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– Ynneadwraith
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As stability and maneuverability are very important for fights in the canopy blade weapons are going to be chosen over blunt, top-heavy weapons (maces and axes) and long weapons (spears and polearms). One-handed blades (knives, short swords, arming swords, falchion, and sabers) seem better than two-handed ones (long or great swords) for this reason.
You excluded ranged weapons from this discussion, but I´m still going to mention them because I´m a completionist. Bows and crossbows could fit into two different functional groups. Crossbows and big, powerful bows (longbow) would serve as sniper weapons while rapidly firable, small bows (short bows) will be used by raiders. Think steppe-nomad tactics. Blowing darts might be interesting if strong poisons are commonly available. There is also a large variety of one-handed ranged options (rock, knife, sling, axe, javelin, ...). That said javelins might also be a one-handed melee option with an added throwing option. Let's call these "hurling spears" and imagine them to look like Roman pila or Zulu spears.
For shields, I think small ones like bucklers are much better for canopy mobility than large ones (round shields, kite shields, ...). Great shields for missile infantry might be a good idea for sieges and drawn out fights involving ranged units.
Armor wise I think metal would not be a great idea since due to stamina issues. While full plate armor is way less limiting than most people think (scaling climbing walls and doing handstands is quite possible), the three-dimensional nature and obvious opportunity for stealth in arboreal warfare make linen (gambesons are awesome), leather, wood, and bone armor quite appealing. If you need to limit the weight go for helmets and hand protection and some light body armor. The first two spots are vital and very prone to injury.
Let's conclude this with outfitting the perfect warrior
He´s got a metal helmet and metal gauntlets and the rest of his body is covered in linen armor reinforced with wood or bamboo and bones. There are lashes allowing easy conversion into a ghillie suit. Let´s give him a buckler and some kind of short sword (go for aesthetics you like, roman gladius or sparta, saxon-sword, falchion (anti cloth armor) or some kind of saber (*)). Additionally, he´ll need two belts to hold a back mounted, closable quiver for hurling-spears and for lashes holding a collection of throwing weapons or poison darts. These are disposable and kill using poisons. If poisons aren´t widely and cheaply available, either forget about these or upgrade to knives and throwing hatchets.
*"Have you seen these warriors from Hammerfell? They got curved swords. Big. Curved. Long........ SWORDS." [source: The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]
answered Apr 20 at 20:48
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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As stability and maneuverability are very important for fights in the canopy blade weapons are going to be chosen over blunt, top-heavy weapons (maces and axes) and long weapons (spears and polearms). One-handed blades (knives, short swords, arming swords, falchion, and sabers) seem better than two-handed ones (long or great swords) for this reason.
You excluded ranged weapons from this discussion, but I´m still going to mention them because I´m a completionist. Bows and crossbows could fit into two different functional groups. Crossbows and big, powerful bows (longbow) would serve as sniper weapons while rapidly firable, small bows (short bows) will be used by raiders. Think steppe-nomad tactics. Blowing darts might be interesting if strong poisons are commonly available. There is also a large variety of one-handed ranged options (rock, knife, sling, axe, javelin, ...). That said javelins might also be a one-handed melee option with an added throwing option. Let's call these "hurling spears" and imagine them to look like Roman pila or Zulu spears.
For shields, I think small ones like bucklers are much better for canopy mobility than large ones (round shields, kite shields, ...). Great shields for missile infantry might be a good idea for sieges and drawn out fights involving ranged units.
Armor wise I think metal would not be a great idea since due to stamina issues. While full plate armor is way less limiting than most people think (scaling climbing walls and doing handstands is quite possible), the three-dimensional nature and obvious opportunity for stealth in arboreal warfare make linen (gambesons are awesome), leather, wood, and bone armor quite appealing. If you need to limit the weight go for helmets and hand protection and some light body armor. The first two spots are vital and very prone to injury.
Let's conclude this with outfitting the perfect warrior
He´s got a metal helmet and metal gauntlets and the rest of his body is covered in linen armor reinforced with wood or bamboo and bones. There are lashes allowing easy conversion into a ghillie suit. Let´s give him a buckler and some kind of short sword (go for aesthetics you like, roman gladius or sparta, saxon-sword, falchion (anti cloth armor) or some kind of saber (*)). Additionally, he´ll need two belts to hold a back mounted, closable quiver for hurling-spears and for lashes holding a collection of throwing weapons or poison darts. These are disposable and kill using poisons. If poisons aren´t widely and cheaply available, either forget about these or upgrade to knives and throwing hatchets.
*"Have you seen these warriors from Hammerfell? They got curved swords. Big. Curved. Long........ SWORDS." [source: The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]
answered Apr 20 at 20:48
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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As stability and maneuverability are very important for fights in the canopy blade weapons are going to be chosen over blunt, top-heavy weapons (maces and axes) and long weapons (spears and polearms). One-handed blades (knives, short swords, arming swords, falchion, and sabers) seem better than two-handed ones (long or great swords) for this reason.
You excluded ranged weapons from this discussion, but I´m still going to mention them because I´m a completionist. Bows and crossbows could fit into two different functional groups. Crossbows and big, powerful bows (longbow) would serve as sniper weapons while rapidly firable, small bows (short bows) will be used by raiders. Think steppe-nomad tactics. Blowing darts might be interesting if strong poisons are commonly available. There is also a large variety of one-handed ranged options (rock, knife, sling, axe, javelin, ...). That said javelins might also be a one-handed melee option with an added throwing option. Let's call these "hurling spears" and imagine them to look like Roman pila or Zulu spears.
For shields, I think small ones like bucklers are much better for canopy mobility than large ones (round shields, kite shields, ...). Great shields for missile infantry might be a good idea for sieges and drawn out fights involving ranged units.
Armor wise I think metal would not be a great idea since due to stamina issues. While full plate armor is way less limiting than most people think (scaling climbing walls and doing handstands is quite possible), the three-dimensional nature and obvious opportunity for stealth in arboreal warfare make linen (gambesons are awesome), leather, wood, and bone armor quite appealing. If you need to limit the weight go for helmets and hand protection and some light body armor. The first two spots are vital and very prone to injury.
Let's conclude this with outfitting the perfect warrior
He´s got a metal helmet and metal gauntlets and the rest of his body is covered in linen armor reinforced with wood or bamboo and bones. There are lashes allowing easy conversion into a ghillie suit. Let´s give him a buckler and some kind of short sword (go for aesthetics you like, roman gladius or sparta, saxon-sword, falchion (anti cloth armor) or some kind of saber (*)). Additionally, he´ll need two belts to hold a back mounted, closable quiver for hurling-spears and for lashes holding a collection of throwing weapons or poison darts. These are disposable and kill using poisons. If poisons aren´t widely and cheaply available, either forget about these or upgrade to knives and throwing hatchets.
*"Have you seen these warriors from Hammerfell? They got curved swords. Big. Curved. Long........ SWORDS." [source: The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]
answered Apr 20 at 20:48
TheDyingOfLightTheDyingOfLight
92513
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As stability and maneuverability are very important for fights in the canopy blade weapons are going to be chosen over blunt, top-heavy weapons (maces and axes) and long weapons (spears and polearms). One-handed blades (knives, short swords, arming swords, falchion, and sabers) seem better than two-handed ones (long or great swords) for this reason.
You excluded ranged weapons from this discussion, but I´m still going to mention them because I´m a completionist. Bows and crossbows could fit into two different functional groups. Crossbows and big, powerful bows (longbow) would serve as sniper weapons while rapidly firable, small bows (short bows) will be used by raiders. Think steppe-nomad tactics. Blowing darts might be interesting if strong poisons are commonly available. There is also a large variety of one-handed ranged options (rock, knife, sling, axe, javelin, ...). That said javelins might also be a one-handed melee option with an added throwing option. Let's call these "hurling spears" and imagine them to look like Roman pila or Zulu spears.
For shields, I think small ones like bucklers are much better for canopy mobility than large ones (round shields, kite shields, ...). Great shields for missile infantry might be a good idea for sieges and drawn out fights involving ranged units.
Armor wise I think metal would not be a great idea since due to stamina issues. While full plate armor is way less limiting than most people think (scaling climbing walls and doing handstands is quite possible), the three-dimensional nature and obvious opportunity for stealth in arboreal warfare make linen (gambesons are awesome), leather, wood, and bone armor quite appealing. If you need to limit the weight go for helmets and hand protection and some light body armor. The first two spots are vital and very prone to injury.
Let's conclude this with outfitting the perfect warrior
He´s got a metal helmet and metal gauntlets and the rest of his body is covered in linen armor reinforced with wood or bamboo and bones. There are lashes allowing easy conversion into a ghillie suit. Let´s give him a buckler and some kind of short sword (go for aesthetics you like, roman gladius or sparta, saxon-sword, falchion (anti cloth armor) or some kind of saber (*)). Additionally, he´ll need two belts to hold a back mounted, closable quiver for hurling-spears and for lashes holding a collection of throwing weapons or poison darts. These are disposable and kill using poisons. If poisons aren´t widely and cheaply available, either forget about these or upgrade to knives and throwing hatchets.
*"Have you seen these warriors from Hammerfell? They got curved swords. Big. Curved. Long........ SWORDS." [source: The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim]
answered Apr 20 at 20:48
TheDyingOfLightTheDyingOfLight
92513
edited 2 days ago
answered Apr 20 at 20:48
TheDyingOfLightTheDyingOfLight
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answered Apr 20 at 20:48
TheDyingOfLightTheDyingOfLight
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answered Apr 20 at 20:48
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
$endgroup$
– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
$endgroup$
– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
$begingroup$
True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
$endgroup$
– Liam Morris
2 days ago
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Swords? There are no swords in Skyrim, all there is is large sharp paddles :P
$endgroup$
– Liam Morris
2 days ago
$begingroup$
While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
$endgroup$
– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
$begingroup$
While the higher tier swords are indeed ominous sex toys rather than weapons, the iron and steel weapons aren't that bad. xD The Hammerfell Scimitar is one of the most realistic weapons in the game actually.
$endgroup$
– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
$begingroup$
True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
$begingroup$
True the iron and steel weapons aren’t too bad, the iron one is based off the Scandinavian sverd, the scimitar though looks nothing like a real historical one, it is closer to an oversized curved falchion. The top of it is far too broad, whilst there were swords which were significantly broader at the top, there is just too much steel there. If that back side was cut down a bit, and there was a distal taper, it could be a very useable blade. You can find sword like the Skyrim scimitar but they are fantasy weapons, not historical ones.
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– Liam Morris
2 days ago
$begingroup$
You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
$begingroup$
You might be right, I only spent a few google image searches to find out how good the scimitar is. But I think some far eastern and african weapons were proportioned similarly. My main issue with it is the diameter of the blade, it would handle like an axe.
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– TheDyingOfLight
2 days ago
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While the first two commentors already had very good ideas, I'd like to add some more:
A double-ended halberd would be useful both for climbing in trees and for combat. It allows usage like a lance, like an axe (for damaging branches, too) and as a grappling hook to offset the balance of your opponent or to grab a branch for climbing or manipulating against an enemy. One side could be simpler (a wooden spear and a hook instead of a heavy axe and spear tip), so it's lighter and can better be thrown (which would only be done when someone is sure to be able to recover it, or in an ermergency when it would be too heavy to carry but might bring down one of the many approaching enemies).
A one-ended/normal but short version of a halberd could be the improved sword of the trees.
A pick-axe as used by mountain climbers would also work well in trees and could have a normal axe (and hook) on the back. It would be a good short-range weapon - the dagger of the trees.
A sword with a tip curved back could serve as a hook, would have more slashing options. Like the other weapons, it could use a leather band to allow hanging from it, so the fingers don't have to carry all the weight of an armed and armored fighter and/or the grip can stay optimised for fighting, not for climbing.
A rope can be used to tie down (elastic) branches and release them in different ways to harm approaching enemies. Or to help unroot a few trees between two forests so that enemies have to use the ground. It's also good for ambushes from the side (swinging) or from above, and, with a hook, also from below.
As you will be needing your arms more than your feet in the trees, the feet (I assume ape-like feet from the description) can also do more fighting - by attaching claws or pointy shoes with good grip on branches), by just adding some weight for more punch, and such.
Tree branches and sufficiently elastic trees can also make catapults or good traps (especially with pointy sticks attached at the end).
Something as simple as a shovel can surprise enemies who, used to life in the trees, may not look for fox holes or soil missing around the roots of the trees they are on.
answered Apr 20 at 22:39
Carl DombrowskiCarl Dombrowski
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While the first two commentors already had very good ideas, I'd like to add some more:
A double-ended halberd would be useful both for climbing in trees and for combat. It allows usage like a lance, like an axe (for damaging branches, too) and as a grappling hook to offset the balance of your opponent or to grab a branch for climbing or manipulating against an enemy. One side could be simpler (a wooden spear and a hook instead of a heavy axe and spear tip), so it's lighter and can better be thrown (which would only be done when someone is sure to be able to recover it, or in an ermergency when it would be too heavy to carry but might bring down one of the many approaching enemies).
A one-ended/normal but short version of a halberd could be the improved sword of the trees.
A pick-axe as used by mountain climbers would also work well in trees and could have a normal axe (and hook) on the back. It would be a good short-range weapon - the dagger of the trees.
A sword with a tip curved back could serve as a hook, would have more slashing options. Like the other weapons, it could use a leather band to allow hanging from it, so the fingers don't have to carry all the weight of an armed and armored fighter and/or the grip can stay optimised for fighting, not for climbing.
A rope can be used to tie down (elastic) branches and release them in different ways to harm approaching enemies. Or to help unroot a few trees between two forests so that enemies have to use the ground. It's also good for ambushes from the side (swinging) or from above, and, with a hook, also from below.
As you will be needing your arms more than your feet in the trees, the feet (I assume ape-like feet from the description) can also do more fighting - by attaching claws or pointy shoes with good grip on branches), by just adding some weight for more punch, and such.
Tree branches and sufficiently elastic trees can also make catapults or good traps (especially with pointy sticks attached at the end).
Something as simple as a shovel can surprise enemies who, used to life in the trees, may not look for fox holes or soil missing around the roots of the trees they are on.
answered Apr 20 at 22:39
Carl DombrowskiCarl Dombrowski
4374
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While the first two commentors already had very good ideas, I'd like to add some more:
A double-ended halberd would be useful both for climbing in trees and for combat. It allows usage like a lance, like an axe (for damaging branches, too) and as a grappling hook to offset the balance of your opponent or to grab a branch for climbing or manipulating against an enemy. One side could be simpler (a wooden spear and a hook instead of a heavy axe and spear tip), so it's lighter and can better be thrown (which would only be done when someone is sure to be able to recover it, or in an ermergency when it would be too heavy to carry but might bring down one of the many approaching enemies).
A one-ended/normal but short version of a halberd could be the improved sword of the trees.
A pick-axe as used by mountain climbers would also work well in trees and could have a normal axe (and hook) on the back. It would be a good short-range weapon - the dagger of the trees.
A sword with a tip curved back could serve as a hook, would have more slashing options. Like the other weapons, it could use a leather band to allow hanging from it, so the fingers don't have to carry all the weight of an armed and armored fighter and/or the grip can stay optimised for fighting, not for climbing.
A rope can be used to tie down (elastic) branches and release them in different ways to harm approaching enemies. Or to help unroot a few trees between two forests so that enemies have to use the ground. It's also good for ambushes from the side (swinging) or from above, and, with a hook, also from below.
As you will be needing your arms more than your feet in the trees, the feet (I assume ape-like feet from the description) can also do more fighting - by attaching claws or pointy shoes with good grip on branches), by just adding some weight for more punch, and such.
Tree branches and sufficiently elastic trees can also make catapults or good traps (especially with pointy sticks attached at the end).
Something as simple as a shovel can surprise enemies who, used to life in the trees, may not look for fox holes or soil missing around the roots of the trees they are on.
answered Apr 20 at 22:39
Carl DombrowskiCarl Dombrowski
4374
$endgroup$
While the first two commentors already had very good ideas, I'd like to add some more:
A double-ended halberd would be useful both for climbing in trees and for combat. It allows usage like a lance, like an axe (for damaging branches, too) and as a grappling hook to offset the balance of your opponent or to grab a branch for climbing or manipulating against an enemy. One side could be simpler (a wooden spear and a hook instead of a heavy axe and spear tip), so it's lighter and can better be thrown (which would only be done when someone is sure to be able to recover it, or in an ermergency when it would be too heavy to carry but might bring down one of the many approaching enemies).
A one-ended/normal but short version of a halberd could be the improved sword of the trees.
A pick-axe as used by mountain climbers would also work well in trees and could have a normal axe (and hook) on the back. It would be a good short-range weapon - the dagger of the trees.
A sword with a tip curved back could serve as a hook, would have more slashing options. Like the other weapons, it could use a leather band to allow hanging from it, so the fingers don't have to carry all the weight of an armed and armored fighter and/or the grip can stay optimised for fighting, not for climbing.
A rope can be used to tie down (elastic) branches and release them in different ways to harm approaching enemies. Or to help unroot a few trees between two forests so that enemies have to use the ground. It's also good for ambushes from the side (swinging) or from above, and, with a hook, also from below.
As you will be needing your arms more than your feet in the trees, the feet (I assume ape-like feet from the description) can also do more fighting - by attaching claws or pointy shoes with good grip on branches), by just adding some weight for more punch, and such.
Tree branches and sufficiently elastic trees can also make catapults or good traps (especially with pointy sticks attached at the end).
Something as simple as a shovel can surprise enemies who, used to life in the trees, may not look for fox holes or soil missing around the roots of the trees they are on.
answered Apr 20 at 22:39
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How about a saw? ;)
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– MarielS
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Not sure whether it is relevant, but if the network of branches in the arboreal regions is suitable, and also their strength/body mass ratio is good enough, then they can move relatively freely in 3D. This may certainly effect the melee tactics. Not quite like fighter planes in a dog fight, but not a 1-on-1 swordfight either. Is the field of vision of your creatures also adapted to 3D life, or are they stuck with a single pair of eyes like us?
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– Jyrki Lahtonen
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"this is excluding bows and other projectile weapons". What's wrong with crossbows? Tactics similar to cavalry with early pistols would be effective enough. Shoot, then move to 3rd line then reload then repeat.
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– ADS
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