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Electric kick drum pedal starts oscillating in such a way that it does not register hits


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I am a beginning drummer and have an electric drumkit with a Yamaha kick drum, the one shown below.
For some specific songs where the kick drum is a consistent beat, I cannot seem to produce a consistent sound myself.



The reason for this is hard to explain in text; as I'm rhythmically stepping on the kick drum, the spring causes the foot pedal to start oscillating up and down (like when you twang a plastic ruler). Those oscillations have the same frequency as the kick drum beats. As I kick down on the foot pedal and raise my foot again, the pedal raises with it. However, it bounces back down again due to the force (not my foot) and as the pedal is traveling downwards, my foot kicks on the pedal again. At that point, the pedal has almost hit the foam hit marker, and my foot adds no extra force; no hit or a soft hit can be heard instead of kick.



My apologies for the rather vague explanation. I'm wondering if anyone else recognizes this and has any advice on how to make it stop. It happens in any configuration of my foot to the pedal (ball of foot, heel, full foot, just toes)



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  • I have the same "issue" with my Alesis Nitro Mesh kit which has a legit kickdrum "beater". But I thought it was a "feature" to make it easier to play doubles... Wondering if this is the same issue?

    – Eric Seastrand
    May 9 at 19:38












  • @EricSeastrand Perhaps, but my problem is not that the oscillation causes double notes, it's that it causes my hits to not register, because the moment I stamp my foot on the pedal, the pedal is already at its lowest point to the foam because it oscillated there.

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I am a beginning drummer and have an electric drumkit with a Yamaha kick drum, the one shown below.
For some specific songs where the kick drum is a consistent beat, I cannot seem to produce a consistent sound myself.



The reason for this is hard to explain in text; as I'm rhythmically stepping on the kick drum, the spring causes the foot pedal to start oscillating up and down (like when you twang a plastic ruler). Those oscillations have the same frequency as the kick drum beats. As I kick down on the foot pedal and raise my foot again, the pedal raises with it. However, it bounces back down again due to the force (not my foot) and as the pedal is traveling downwards, my foot kicks on the pedal again. At that point, the pedal has almost hit the foam hit marker, and my foot adds no extra force; no hit or a soft hit can be heard instead of kick.



My apologies for the rather vague explanation. I'm wondering if anyone else recognizes this and has any advice on how to make it stop. It happens in any configuration of my foot to the pedal (ball of foot, heel, full foot, just toes)



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  • I have the same "issue" with my Alesis Nitro Mesh kit which has a legit kickdrum "beater". But I thought it was a "feature" to make it easier to play doubles... Wondering if this is the same issue?

    – Eric Seastrand
    May 9 at 19:38












  • @EricSeastrand Perhaps, but my problem is not that the oscillation causes double notes, it's that it causes my hits to not register, because the moment I stamp my foot on the pedal, the pedal is already at its lowest point to the foam because it oscillated there.

    – Zimano
    May 10 at 10:17













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I am a beginning drummer and have an electric drumkit with a Yamaha kick drum, the one shown below.
For some specific songs where the kick drum is a consistent beat, I cannot seem to produce a consistent sound myself.



The reason for this is hard to explain in text; as I'm rhythmically stepping on the kick drum, the spring causes the foot pedal to start oscillating up and down (like when you twang a plastic ruler). Those oscillations have the same frequency as the kick drum beats. As I kick down on the foot pedal and raise my foot again, the pedal raises with it. However, it bounces back down again due to the force (not my foot) and as the pedal is traveling downwards, my foot kicks on the pedal again. At that point, the pedal has almost hit the foam hit marker, and my foot adds no extra force; no hit or a soft hit can be heard instead of kick.



My apologies for the rather vague explanation. I'm wondering if anyone else recognizes this and has any advice on how to make it stop. It happens in any configuration of my foot to the pedal (ball of foot, heel, full foot, just toes)



enter image description here










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I am a beginning drummer and have an electric drumkit with a Yamaha kick drum, the one shown below.
For some specific songs where the kick drum is a consistent beat, I cannot seem to produce a consistent sound myself.



The reason for this is hard to explain in text; as I'm rhythmically stepping on the kick drum, the spring causes the foot pedal to start oscillating up and down (like when you twang a plastic ruler). Those oscillations have the same frequency as the kick drum beats. As I kick down on the foot pedal and raise my foot again, the pedal raises with it. However, it bounces back down again due to the force (not my foot) and as the pedal is traveling downwards, my foot kicks on the pedal again. At that point, the pedal has almost hit the foam hit marker, and my foot adds no extra force; no hit or a soft hit can be heard instead of kick.



My apologies for the rather vague explanation. I'm wondering if anyone else recognizes this and has any advice on how to make it stop. It happens in any configuration of my foot to the pedal (ball of foot, heel, full foot, just toes)



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  • I have the same "issue" with my Alesis Nitro Mesh kit which has a legit kickdrum "beater". But I thought it was a "feature" to make it easier to play doubles... Wondering if this is the same issue?

    – Eric Seastrand
    May 9 at 19:38












  • @EricSeastrand Perhaps, but my problem is not that the oscillation causes double notes, it's that it causes my hits to not register, because the moment I stamp my foot on the pedal, the pedal is already at its lowest point to the foam because it oscillated there.

    – Zimano
    May 10 at 10:17

















  • I have the same "issue" with my Alesis Nitro Mesh kit which has a legit kickdrum "beater". But I thought it was a "feature" to make it easier to play doubles... Wondering if this is the same issue?

    – Eric Seastrand
    May 9 at 19:38












  • @EricSeastrand Perhaps, but my problem is not that the oscillation causes double notes, it's that it causes my hits to not register, because the moment I stamp my foot on the pedal, the pedal is already at its lowest point to the foam because it oscillated there.

    – Zimano
    May 10 at 10:17
















I have the same "issue" with my Alesis Nitro Mesh kit which has a legit kickdrum "beater". But I thought it was a "feature" to make it easier to play doubles... Wondering if this is the same issue?

– Eric Seastrand
May 9 at 19:38






I have the same "issue" with my Alesis Nitro Mesh kit which has a legit kickdrum "beater". But I thought it was a "feature" to make it easier to play doubles... Wondering if this is the same issue?

– Eric Seastrand
May 9 at 19:38














@EricSeastrand Perhaps, but my problem is not that the oscillation causes double notes, it's that it causes my hits to not register, because the moment I stamp my foot on the pedal, the pedal is already at its lowest point to the foam because it oscillated there.

– Zimano
May 10 at 10:17





@EricSeastrand Perhaps, but my problem is not that the oscillation causes double notes, it's that it causes my hits to not register, because the moment I stamp my foot on the pedal, the pedal is already at its lowest point to the foam because it oscillated there.

– Zimano
May 10 at 10:17










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The usual fix for that is to adjust the spring tension &/or the beater post length.



As that doesn't appear to have either, then I'd suggest jamming another bit of soft foam in the way, to slow up the oscillation.






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  • Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:06







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    If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

    – Tetsujin
    May 9 at 17:09











  • Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:13











  • other possibilities are double kick pedals, or a drum machine.

    – Brian D
    May 9 at 19:08












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The usual fix for that is to adjust the spring tension &/or the beater post length.



As that doesn't appear to have either, then I'd suggest jamming another bit of soft foam in the way, to slow up the oscillation.






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  • Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:06







  • 1





    If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

    – Tetsujin
    May 9 at 17:09











  • Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:13











  • other possibilities are double kick pedals, or a drum machine.

    – Brian D
    May 9 at 19:08
















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The usual fix for that is to adjust the spring tension &/or the beater post length.



As that doesn't appear to have either, then I'd suggest jamming another bit of soft foam in the way, to slow up the oscillation.






share|improve this answer























  • Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:06







  • 1





    If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

    – Tetsujin
    May 9 at 17:09











  • Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:13











  • other possibilities are double kick pedals, or a drum machine.

    – Brian D
    May 9 at 19:08














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The usual fix for that is to adjust the spring tension &/or the beater post length.



As that doesn't appear to have either, then I'd suggest jamming another bit of soft foam in the way, to slow up the oscillation.






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The usual fix for that is to adjust the spring tension &/or the beater post length.



As that doesn't appear to have either, then I'd suggest jamming another bit of soft foam in the way, to slow up the oscillation.







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  • Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:06







  • 1





    If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

    – Tetsujin
    May 9 at 17:09











  • Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:13











  • other possibilities are double kick pedals, or a drum machine.

    – Brian D
    May 9 at 19:08


















  • Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:06







  • 1





    If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

    – Tetsujin
    May 9 at 17:09











  • Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

    – Zimano
    May 9 at 17:13











  • other possibilities are double kick pedals, or a drum machine.

    – Brian D
    May 9 at 19:08

















Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

– Zimano
May 9 at 17:06






Practical advice, thanks! If I understand correctly: by adding some more foam, the spring won't be forced together as much when I kick down, and so will not push back as hard when I release my foot, making the pedal not oscillate as much.

– Zimano
May 9 at 17:06





1




1





If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

– Tetsujin
May 9 at 17:09





If the foam is soft enough, it won't provide sufficient resistance to your playing, just enough to slow up the rebound. I'm sure it will take some fiddling with to get it just right... unless there is some kind of tension adjuster in the pedal.

– Tetsujin
May 9 at 17:09













Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

– Zimano
May 9 at 17:13





Will check for any adjustment possibility first. Thanks!

– Zimano
May 9 at 17:13













other possibilities are double kick pedals, or a drum machine.

– Brian D
May 9 at 19:08






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