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When to use 1/Ka vs Kb [on hold]
How does one calculate the pH of an aqueous solution of a weak acid and a weak base?Comparing acidities of substituted and aromatic carboxylic acidsWhat is the reaction equation for a mixture of trichloroethanoic acid and dimethylpropanoic acid?How do I write out the chemical reaction of ammonia with strong acid?Apparent solubility of Ag2C2O4 in a buffer solutionIdentifying unknown solution with indicators. why is one pKa value ignored and how to treat negatives values?pH of 0.5M K2CO3How to calculate the pH of the neutralisation of HCN with excess of KOH?Acid-base titration: Calculate pKa with only three values givenHow accurately does (pKa1 + pKa2) / 2 estimate the pH of an amphoteric salt?
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I'm really unsure what the difference is. We're using these when calculating $K$ of combined reactions. In general, I am also confused what $K$ is in comparison to $K_mathrma$ and $K_mathrmb$. For example here is a calculation where for the reaction involving $ceNO2-$, the equilibrium constant is $1/K_mathrma$ even though it shows $ceNO2-$ acting as a base.
Use the following four aqueous species to write an acid-base reaction with $K > 1$. (An acid-base reaction is one that involves the exchange of a proton. Your reaction will involve all four species.)
$ceNO2-(aq)$, $ceF-(aq)$, $ceHF(aq)$, $ceHNO2(aq)$
$ceHNO2$ $(K_mathrma = pu4.6e-4)$ is a weaker acid than $ceHF$ $(K_mathrma = pu6.6e-4)$, so $ceHNO2$ holds onto its proton more tightly than
$ceHF$. So if we write a reaction when $ceNO2-$ takes a proton from $ceF-$, we'll have a reaction with $K > 1$:
$$ceHF + NO2- → HNO2 + F-$$
We can get the $K$ for this reaction that adding the two acid dissocation reactions together as:
$$
beginalign
ceHF &→ H+ + F- &quad &K_mathrma(ceHF)\
ceH+ + NO2- &→ HNO2 &quad &1/K_mathrma(ceHNO2)\
hline
ceHF + NO2- &→ HNO2 + F- &quad &fracK_mathrma(ceHF)K_mathrma(ceHNO2) = fracpu6.6e-4pu4.6e-4 = 1.4 > 1
endalign
$$
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I'm really unsure what the difference is. We're using these when calculating $K$ of combined reactions. In general, I am also confused what $K$ is in comparison to $K_mathrma$ and $K_mathrmb$. For example here is a calculation where for the reaction involving $ceNO2-$, the equilibrium constant is $1/K_mathrma$ even though it shows $ceNO2-$ acting as a base.
Use the following four aqueous species to write an acid-base reaction with $K > 1$. (An acid-base reaction is one that involves the exchange of a proton. Your reaction will involve all four species.)
$ceNO2-(aq)$, $ceF-(aq)$, $ceHF(aq)$, $ceHNO2(aq)$
$ceHNO2$ $(K_mathrma = pu4.6e-4)$ is a weaker acid than $ceHF$ $(K_mathrma = pu6.6e-4)$, so $ceHNO2$ holds onto its proton more tightly than
$ceHF$. So if we write a reaction when $ceNO2-$ takes a proton from $ceF-$, we'll have a reaction with $K > 1$:
$$ceHF + NO2- → HNO2 + F-$$
We can get the $K$ for this reaction that adding the two acid dissocation reactions together as:
$$
beginalign
ceHF &→ H+ + F- &quad &K_mathrma(ceHF)\
ceH+ + NO2- &→ HNO2 &quad &1/K_mathrma(ceHNO2)\
hline
ceHF + NO2- &→ HNO2 + F- &quad &fracK_mathrma(ceHF)K_mathrma(ceHNO2) = fracpu6.6e-4pu4.6e-4 = 1.4 > 1
endalign
$$
acid-base equilibrium phy
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I'm really unsure what the difference is. We're using these when calculating $K$ of combined reactions. In general, I am also confused what $K$ is in comparison to $K_mathrma$ and $K_mathrmb$. For example here is a calculation where for the reaction involving $ceNO2-$, the equilibrium constant is $1/K_mathrma$ even though it shows $ceNO2-$ acting as a base.
Use the following four aqueous species to write an acid-base reaction with $K > 1$. (An acid-base reaction is one that involves the exchange of a proton. Your reaction will involve all four species.)
$ceNO2-(aq)$, $ceF-(aq)$, $ceHF(aq)$, $ceHNO2(aq)$
$ceHNO2$ $(K_mathrma = pu4.6e-4)$ is a weaker acid than $ceHF$ $(K_mathrma = pu6.6e-4)$, so $ceHNO2$ holds onto its proton more tightly than
$ceHF$. So if we write a reaction when $ceNO2-$ takes a proton from $ceF-$, we'll have a reaction with $K > 1$:
$$ceHF + NO2- → HNO2 + F-$$
We can get the $K$ for this reaction that adding the two acid dissocation reactions together as:
$$
beginalign
ceHF &→ H+ + F- &quad &K_mathrma(ceHF)\
ceH+ + NO2- &→ HNO2 &quad &1/K_mathrma(ceHNO2)\
hline
ceHF + NO2- &→ HNO2 + F- &quad &fracK_mathrma(ceHF)K_mathrma(ceHNO2) = fracpu6.6e-4pu4.6e-4 = 1.4 > 1
endalign
$$
acid-base equilibrium phy
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I'm really unsure what the difference is. We're using these when calculating $K$ of combined reactions. In general, I am also confused what $K$ is in comparison to $K_mathrma$ and $K_mathrmb$. For example here is a calculation where for the reaction involving $ceNO2-$, the equilibrium constant is $1/K_mathrma$ even though it shows $ceNO2-$ acting as a base.
Use the following four aqueous species to write an acid-base reaction with $K > 1$. (An acid-base reaction is one that involves the exchange of a proton. Your reaction will involve all four species.)
$ceNO2-(aq)$, $ceF-(aq)$, $ceHF(aq)$, $ceHNO2(aq)$
$ceHNO2$ $(K_mathrma = pu4.6e-4)$ is a weaker acid than $ceHF$ $(K_mathrma = pu6.6e-4)$, so $ceHNO2$ holds onto its proton more tightly than
$ceHF$. So if we write a reaction when $ceNO2-$ takes a proton from $ceF-$, we'll have a reaction with $K > 1$:
$$ceHF + NO2- → HNO2 + F-$$
We can get the $K$ for this reaction that adding the two acid dissocation reactions together as:
$$
beginalign
ceHF &→ H+ + F- &quad &K_mathrma(ceHF)\
ceH+ + NO2- &→ HNO2 &quad &1/K_mathrma(ceHNO2)\
hline
ceHF + NO2- &→ HNO2 + F- &quad &fracK_mathrma(ceHF)K_mathrma(ceHNO2) = fracpu6.6e-4pu4.6e-4 = 1.4 > 1
endalign
$$
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beginalign
ceHNO2 + H2O &<=> NO2- + H3O+ &quad K &= K_mathrma tag1\
ceNO2- + H2O &<=> HNO2 + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmb tag2\
ceH2O + H2O &<=> H3O+ + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmw tag3
endalign
$$
Above are the reactions associated with equilibrium constants commonly called $K_mathrma$, $K_mathrmb$, and $K_mathrmw$. If you reverse the first reaction, you get:
$$ceNO2- + H3O+ <=> HNO2 + H2O qquad K = 1/K_mathrmatag1a$$
(This looks a bit different from your equation because it shows the hydronium ion instead of the hydrogen ion, but it refers to the same reaction.)
As you might know, the three equilibrium constants are related:
$$K_mathrma times K_mathrmb = K_mathrmw$$
This is because when adding up the first and the second reaction, you get the third.
When to use $1/K_mathrma$ vs $K_mathrmb$
Use the equilibrium constant that matches the reaction you are working on.
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$$
beginalign
ceHNO2 + H2O &<=> NO2- + H3O+ &quad K &= K_mathrma tag1\
ceNO2- + H2O &<=> HNO2 + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmb tag2\
ceH2O + H2O &<=> H3O+ + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmw tag3
endalign
$$
Above are the reactions associated with equilibrium constants commonly called $K_mathrma$, $K_mathrmb$, and $K_mathrmw$. If you reverse the first reaction, you get:
$$ceNO2- + H3O+ <=> HNO2 + H2O qquad K = 1/K_mathrmatag1a$$
(This looks a bit different from your equation because it shows the hydronium ion instead of the hydrogen ion, but it refers to the same reaction.)
As you might know, the three equilibrium constants are related:
$$K_mathrma times K_mathrmb = K_mathrmw$$
This is because when adding up the first and the second reaction, you get the third.
When to use $1/K_mathrma$ vs $K_mathrmb$
Use the equilibrium constant that matches the reaction you are working on.
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$$
beginalign
ceHNO2 + H2O &<=> NO2- + H3O+ &quad K &= K_mathrma tag1\
ceNO2- + H2O &<=> HNO2 + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmb tag2\
ceH2O + H2O &<=> H3O+ + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmw tag3
endalign
$$
Above are the reactions associated with equilibrium constants commonly called $K_mathrma$, $K_mathrmb$, and $K_mathrmw$. If you reverse the first reaction, you get:
$$ceNO2- + H3O+ <=> HNO2 + H2O qquad K = 1/K_mathrmatag1a$$
(This looks a bit different from your equation because it shows the hydronium ion instead of the hydrogen ion, but it refers to the same reaction.)
As you might know, the three equilibrium constants are related:
$$K_mathrma times K_mathrmb = K_mathrmw$$
This is because when adding up the first and the second reaction, you get the third.
When to use $1/K_mathrma$ vs $K_mathrmb$
Use the equilibrium constant that matches the reaction you are working on.
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$$
beginalign
ceHNO2 + H2O &<=> NO2- + H3O+ &quad K &= K_mathrma tag1\
ceNO2- + H2O &<=> HNO2 + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmb tag2\
ceH2O + H2O &<=> H3O+ + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmw tag3
endalign
$$
Above are the reactions associated with equilibrium constants commonly called $K_mathrma$, $K_mathrmb$, and $K_mathrmw$. If you reverse the first reaction, you get:
$$ceNO2- + H3O+ <=> HNO2 + H2O qquad K = 1/K_mathrmatag1a$$
(This looks a bit different from your equation because it shows the hydronium ion instead of the hydrogen ion, but it refers to the same reaction.)
As you might know, the three equilibrium constants are related:
$$K_mathrma times K_mathrmb = K_mathrmw$$
This is because when adding up the first and the second reaction, you get the third.
When to use $1/K_mathrma$ vs $K_mathrmb$
Use the equilibrium constant that matches the reaction you are working on.
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$$
beginalign
ceHNO2 + H2O &<=> NO2- + H3O+ &quad K &= K_mathrma tag1\
ceNO2- + H2O &<=> HNO2 + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmb tag2\
ceH2O + H2O &<=> H3O+ + OH- &quad K &= K_mathrmw tag3
endalign
$$
Above are the reactions associated with equilibrium constants commonly called $K_mathrma$, $K_mathrmb$, and $K_mathrmw$. If you reverse the first reaction, you get:
$$ceNO2- + H3O+ <=> HNO2 + H2O qquad K = 1/K_mathrmatag1a$$
(This looks a bit different from your equation because it shows the hydronium ion instead of the hydrogen ion, but it refers to the same reaction.)
As you might know, the three equilibrium constants are related:
$$K_mathrma times K_mathrmb = K_mathrmw$$
This is because when adding up the first and the second reaction, you get the third.
When to use $1/K_mathrma$ vs $K_mathrmb$
Use the equilibrium constant that matches the reaction you are working on.
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