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Meaning of もてり and use of が
The difference between が and を with the potential form of a verbWhy doesn't 分かる have a potential form?How to distinguish between passive and potential forms of the verb?In what cases do I use 見られる with を?知る vs わかる and when to use が and を in “how to” questionsIs it bad practice to use “することができる” as opposed to just “できる”?How to use 満足するIs there a reason why the passive and the potential form are identical (at least for える/いる verbs)?Is there a good etymological reason why the potential form in Japanese requires the が particle?is 持てる potential form or continuous tense
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白き布 もて盤上を 磨きたり 人は心に 鏡をもてり。
Is もてり 持てる？ If so, in that case why does a potential verb have the が particle?
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白き布 もて盤上を 磨きたり 人は心に 鏡をもてり。
Is もてり 持てる？ If so, in that case why does a potential verb have the が particle?
grammar particles classical-japanese potential-form
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白き布 もて盤上を 磨きたり 人は心に 鏡をもてり。
Is もてり 持てる？ If so, in that case why does a potential verb have the が particle?
grammar particles classical-japanese potential-form
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白き布 もて盤上を 磨きたり 人は心に 鏡をもてり。
Is もてり 持てる？ If so, in that case why does a potential verb have the が particle?
grammar particles classical-japanese potential-form
grammar particles classical-japanese potential-form
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This is not the potential form of 持つ, but the 已然形 of 持つ plus the 終止形 of the 助動詞 り. In this case, the combination corresponds to modern Japanese 持っている.
answered Jun 24 at 17:14
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Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
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This is not the potential form of 持つ, but the 已然形 of 持つ plus the 終止形 of the 助動詞 り. In this case, the combination corresponds to modern Japanese 持っている.
answered Jun 24 at 17:14
NanigashiNanigashi
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Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
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This is not the potential form of 持つ, but the 已然形 of 持つ plus the 終止形 of the 助動詞 り. In this case, the combination corresponds to modern Japanese 持っている.
answered Jun 24 at 17:14
NanigashiNanigashi
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Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
add a comment |
This is not the potential form of 持つ, but the 已然形 of 持つ plus the 終止形 of the 助動詞 り. In this case, the combination corresponds to modern Japanese 持っている.
answered Jun 24 at 17:14
NanigashiNanigashi
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This is not the potential form of 持つ, but the 已然形 of 持つ plus the 終止形 of the 助動詞 り. In this case, the combination corresponds to modern Japanese 持っている.
answered Jun 24 at 17:14
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answered Jun 24 at 17:14
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answered Jun 24 at 17:14
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answered Jun 24 at 17:14
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Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
add a comment |
Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Addendum: In other words it's a Classical Japanese grammar. See the dictionary entry of り.
– broccoli forest
Jun 26 at 4:57
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
Sorry; I assumed the fact that this was CJ was understood from the OP's use of the "Old Japanese" tag.
– Nanigashi
Jun 26 at 14:58
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
I see. Probably you're right. I was kind of confused because OP is asking about potential verb which doesn't exist in the Classical grammar.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 0:25
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
Is that classical Japanese form really 磨きたり? Or did OP make a typo of 磨いたり?
– istrasci
Jun 28 at 6:23
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
@istrasci It's indeed 磨きたり. But talking of that, the reduced form of 連用形 seems to have appeared in colloquialism as early as the 9th century.
– broccoli forest
Jun 28 at 11:13
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