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Is 悪いところを見つかった proper Japanese?
「を」 object marker in this 受身形うけみけい sentenceCan ご存じです function as a transitive verb?Do “direct object を” and “directional を” occupy the same slot?How would one say A implies B in Japanese?私は猫が好き and 猫は私が好きJapanese grammar structure order~られる connotationsMembership awareness to differentiate は and が?Emphasizing parts of sentence with 大抵 (たいてい, usually)Usage of なら as described in Genki II is confusing to meUse of が in プラス50円でキャラメルラテかカフェラテがお選び頂けますが。
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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be
悪いところが見つかった。
or otherwise
悪いところを見つけた。
This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.
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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be
悪いところが見つかった。
or otherwise
悪いところを見つけた。
This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.
grammar expressions
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not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.
– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05
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The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be
悪いところが見つかった。
or otherwise
悪いところを見つけた。
This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.
grammar expressions
The weblio page for 見つかった uses this phrase as an example meaning "I've been caught." But as I understand it, 見つかる implies that the subject and not the object is the thing that is found. And so I would expect it to be
悪いところが見つかった。
or otherwise
悪いところを見つけた。
This example seems to be the only one on the weblio page to use を with 見つかった.
grammar expressions
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not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.
– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05
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not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.
– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05
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not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.
– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05
not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.
– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05
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Different Meanings of 「ところ」
「悪わるいところを見つかった。」
is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:
"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."
In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.
「~~を見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.
The sentence:
「悪いところが見つかった。」
however, means a completely different thing. It means:
"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."
「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.
How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
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@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
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Different Meanings of 「ところ」
「悪わるいところを見つかった。」
is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:
"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."
In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.
「~~を見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.
The sentence:
「悪いところが見つかった。」
however, means a completely different thing. It means:
"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."
「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.
How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
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@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
add a comment |
Different Meanings of 「ところ」
「悪わるいところを見つかった。」
is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:
"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."
In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.
「~~を見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.
The sentence:
「悪いところが見つかった。」
however, means a completely different thing. It means:
"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."
「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.
How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
1
@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
add a comment |
Different Meanings of 「ところ」
「悪わるいところを見つかった。」
is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:
"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."
In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.
「~~を見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.
The sentence:
「悪いところが見つかった。」
however, means a completely different thing. It means:
"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."
「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.
Different Meanings of 「ところ」
「悪わるいところを見つかった。」
is at least colloquially a valid phrase meaning:
"(Someone) was caught at an awkward moment."
In this expression, 「ところ」 means a "scene" or "moment" where an action takes place.
「~~を見つかる」 is not a structure you would use in formal speech, but that can be said about a million other words and phrases.
The sentence:
「悪いところが見つかった。」
however, means a completely different thing. It means:
"A bad / malfunctioning part was found."
「ところ」 means a "part" in this sentence. It may refer to a part of one's body or an object such as a car, TV, PC, etc.. This sentence implies that an examination has been conducted that lead to the finding of the malfunctioning part.
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How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
1
@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
add a comment |
How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
1
@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
How common is it in colloquial Japanese to use を to mark something other than the direct object? Do you know of any other expressions where を is used in this way? Also, is there a "correct" way to express the same idea in formal Japanese?
– kohaku
Aug 12 at 22:30
1
1
@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
@kohaku Here you are... japanese.stackexchange.com/q/18715/7810 (ProTip: in formal Japanese you still use を)
– broccoli forest
Aug 14 at 10:00
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not sure if you already know it or not, but 見つかる is an intransitive verb, and 見つける a transitive one.
– Felipe Oliveira
Aug 12 at 19:05