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A particular vanishing integral
Why does $int_1^sqrt2 frac1xlnleft(frac2-2x^2+x^42x-2x^2+x^3right)dx$ equal to $0$?Integral $I:=int_0^1 fraclog^2 xx^2-x+1mathrm dx=frac10pi^381 sqrt 3$Integral of $log(sin(x)) tan(x)$Help to resolve a Double IntegralEvaluating $int_1^inftyx: texterfc(a+b log (x)) , dx$Substitution Makes the Integral Bounds EqualIf $I = int _0 ^1 fracln (- ln x)x^2 + x + 1 , dx$ and $J = frac12 int _0 ^1 fracln (- ln x)x^2 - x + 1 ,dx$ then what's $I-J$?Show that $intlimits_0^fracpi24cos^2(x)log^2(cos x)~mathrm dx=-pilog 2+pilog^2 2-fracpi2+fracpi^312$On the integral $I(a)=int_0^1fraclog(a+t^2)1+t^2mathrm dt$
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While dealing with a definite integral on AoPS I discovered (I have to admit by pure chance) the following relation
$$int_0^1logleft(frac(x+1)(x+2)x+3right)fracmathrm dx1+x~=~0tag1$$
The proof is quite easy, but feels kind of contrived. Indeed, just apply a self-similiar substitution - $xmapstofrac1-x1+x$ - to the auxiliary integral $mathcal I$ given by
$$mathcal I~=~int_0^1logleft(fracx^2+2x+3(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dx1+x$$
And the result follows. However, to consider precisely this integral seems highly unnatural to me (in fact, as I mentioned earlier, this integral was just a by-product while evaluating something quite different and I discovered $(1)$ when experimentating with various substitutions).
The crucial point to notice concerning $mathcal I$ is the invariance of the polynomial $f(x)=x^2+2x+3$ regarding the self-similiar substitution which allows us to deduce $(1)$. Additionally for myself I am quite surprised by the special structure of $(1)$ since we have factors of the form $(x+1)$, $(x+2)$ and $(x+3)$ combined which calls for a generalization (although I found none yet).
It there a more elementary approach, not relying on such an "accident" like examining the integral $mathcal I$ for proving $(1)$? Addionally, can this particular pattern be further generalized? Answers to both questions (also separately) are highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
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While dealing with a definite integral on AoPS I discovered (I have to admit by pure chance) the following relation
$$int_0^1logleft(frac(x+1)(x+2)x+3right)fracmathrm dx1+x~=~0tag1$$
The proof is quite easy, but feels kind of contrived. Indeed, just apply a self-similiar substitution - $xmapstofrac1-x1+x$ - to the auxiliary integral $mathcal I$ given by
$$mathcal I~=~int_0^1logleft(fracx^2+2x+3(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dx1+x$$
And the result follows. However, to consider precisely this integral seems highly unnatural to me (in fact, as I mentioned earlier, this integral was just a by-product while evaluating something quite different and I discovered $(1)$ when experimentating with various substitutions).
The crucial point to notice concerning $mathcal I$ is the invariance of the polynomial $f(x)=x^2+2x+3$ regarding the self-similiar substitution which allows us to deduce $(1)$. Additionally for myself I am quite surprised by the special structure of $(1)$ since we have factors of the form $(x+1)$, $(x+2)$ and $(x+3)$ combined which calls for a generalization (although I found none yet).
It there a more elementary approach, not relying on such an "accident" like examining the integral $mathcal I$ for proving $(1)$? Addionally, can this particular pattern be further generalized? Answers to both questions (also separately) are highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
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While dealing with a definite integral on AoPS I discovered (I have to admit by pure chance) the following relation
$$int_0^1logleft(frac(x+1)(x+2)x+3right)fracmathrm dx1+x~=~0tag1$$
The proof is quite easy, but feels kind of contrived. Indeed, just apply a self-similiar substitution - $xmapstofrac1-x1+x$ - to the auxiliary integral $mathcal I$ given by
$$mathcal I~=~int_0^1logleft(fracx^2+2x+3(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dx1+x$$
And the result follows. However, to consider precisely this integral seems highly unnatural to me (in fact, as I mentioned earlier, this integral was just a by-product while evaluating something quite different and I discovered $(1)$ when experimentating with various substitutions).
The crucial point to notice concerning $mathcal I$ is the invariance of the polynomial $f(x)=x^2+2x+3$ regarding the self-similiar substitution which allows us to deduce $(1)$. Additionally for myself I am quite surprised by the special structure of $(1)$ since we have factors of the form $(x+1)$, $(x+2)$ and $(x+3)$ combined which calls for a generalization (although I found none yet).
It there a more elementary approach, not relying on such an "accident" like examining the integral $mathcal I$ for proving $(1)$? Addionally, can this particular pattern be further generalized? Answers to both questions (also separately) are highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
calculus integration definite-integrals
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While dealing with a definite integral on AoPS I discovered (I have to admit by pure chance) the following relation
$$int_0^1logleft(frac(x+1)(x+2)x+3right)fracmathrm dx1+x~=~0tag1$$
The proof is quite easy, but feels kind of contrived. Indeed, just apply a self-similiar substitution - $xmapstofrac1-x1+x$ - to the auxiliary integral $mathcal I$ given by
$$mathcal I~=~int_0^1logleft(fracx^2+2x+3(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dx1+x$$
And the result follows. However, to consider precisely this integral seems highly unnatural to me (in fact, as I mentioned earlier, this integral was just a by-product while evaluating something quite different and I discovered $(1)$ when experimentating with various substitutions).
The crucial point to notice concerning $mathcal I$ is the invariance of the polynomial $f(x)=x^2+2x+3$ regarding the self-similiar substitution which allows us to deduce $(1)$. Additionally for myself I am quite surprised by the special structure of $(1)$ since we have factors of the form $(x+1)$, $(x+2)$ and $(x+3)$ combined which calls for a generalization (although I found none yet).
It there a more elementary approach, not relying on such an "accident" like examining the integral $mathcal I$ for proving $(1)$? Addionally, can this particular pattern be further generalized? Answers to both questions (also separately) are highly appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
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That's quite an impressive method to show that the integral vanishes.
For the first part I'll show using a different approach that your integral vanishes.
$$mathcal J=int_0^1 lnleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrm dxx+1oversetx+1=t= colorblueint_1^2lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt-colorredint_1^2 fracln ttmathrm dt$$
Let's denote the blue integral as $mathcal J_1$ then using the substitution $frac2tto t$ we get:
$$mathcal J_1=int_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt=int_1^2 lnleft(frac2(t+1)t+2right)fracmathrm dtt$$
Adding both integrals from above gives us:
$$requirecancel 2mathcal J_1=cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt+int_1^2 fracln 2tmathrm dt+cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+1t+2right)fracmathrm dtt=ln^2 2$$
$$Rightarrow mathcal J_1=colorbluefracln^2 22Rightarrow mathcal J=colorbluefracln^2 22-colorredfracln^2 22=0$$
As for the second part, a small generalization outcomes by experimenting with the blue integral.
In particular, by the same approach we have:
$$int_1^a lnleft(fracx+ax+1right)fracmathrm dxx=int_1^a fracln xxmathrm dx$$
Which gives us a small generalization:
$$int_0^a-1lnleft(fracx+a+1(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dxx+1=0$$
Similarly, (with the substitution $fracabxto x$) we get that:
$$int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)=int_a^b lnleft(fracxaright)fracdxx$$
And the following follows:
$$int_a-1^b-1 lnleft(fraca(x+b+1)(x+1)(x+a+1)right)fracdxx+1=0$$
One might be interested in the following similar generalization too:
$$int_1^tlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+t^2x^3+sx^2+t^2xright)fracdxx=0,quad sin R, t>1$$
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This is what I was looking for; I guess^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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Aug 12 at 15:38
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It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task^^'
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Aug 12 at 15:44
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@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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The Answer
I have used the substitution $(x+1)(y+1)=2$ before to good effect because
$$
int_0^1f(x),fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1f!left(tfrac1-y1+yright)fracmathrmdyy+1tag1
$$
If $f(x)=logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)$, then $f!left(frac1-y1+yright)=logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)$. Therefore
$$
int_0^1logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)fracmathrmdyy+1tag2
$$
and since the two sides of $(2)$ are negatives, they are both $0$.
A Generalization
We can generalize $(1)$ by letting $(x+a)(y+a)=a(1+a)$, then we get
$$
int_0^1f(x)fracmathrmdxx+a=int_0^1f!left(tfraca(1-y)a+yright)fracmathrmdyy+atag3
$$
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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That's quite an impressive method to show that the integral vanishes.
For the first part I'll show using a different approach that your integral vanishes.
$$mathcal J=int_0^1 lnleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrm dxx+1oversetx+1=t= colorblueint_1^2lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt-colorredint_1^2 fracln ttmathrm dt$$
Let's denote the blue integral as $mathcal J_1$ then using the substitution $frac2tto t$ we get:
$$mathcal J_1=int_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt=int_1^2 lnleft(frac2(t+1)t+2right)fracmathrm dtt$$
Adding both integrals from above gives us:
$$requirecancel 2mathcal J_1=cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt+int_1^2 fracln 2tmathrm dt+cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+1t+2right)fracmathrm dtt=ln^2 2$$
$$Rightarrow mathcal J_1=colorbluefracln^2 22Rightarrow mathcal J=colorbluefracln^2 22-colorredfracln^2 22=0$$
As for the second part, a small generalization outcomes by experimenting with the blue integral.
In particular, by the same approach we have:
$$int_1^a lnleft(fracx+ax+1right)fracmathrm dxx=int_1^a fracln xxmathrm dx$$
Which gives us a small generalization:
$$int_0^a-1lnleft(fracx+a+1(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dxx+1=0$$
Similarly, (with the substitution $fracabxto x$) we get that:
$$int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)=int_a^b lnleft(fracxaright)fracdxx$$
And the following follows:
$$int_a-1^b-1 lnleft(fraca(x+b+1)(x+1)(x+a+1)right)fracdxx+1=0$$
One might be interested in the following similar generalization too:
$$int_1^tlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+t^2x^3+sx^2+t^2xright)fracdxx=0,quad sin R, t>1$$
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This is what I was looking for; I guess^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:17
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 15:38
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It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task^^'
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:44
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@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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Aug 12 at 16:06
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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That's quite an impressive method to show that the integral vanishes.
For the first part I'll show using a different approach that your integral vanishes.
$$mathcal J=int_0^1 lnleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrm dxx+1oversetx+1=t= colorblueint_1^2lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt-colorredint_1^2 fracln ttmathrm dt$$
Let's denote the blue integral as $mathcal J_1$ then using the substitution $frac2tto t$ we get:
$$mathcal J_1=int_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt=int_1^2 lnleft(frac2(t+1)t+2right)fracmathrm dtt$$
Adding both integrals from above gives us:
$$requirecancel 2mathcal J_1=cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt+int_1^2 fracln 2tmathrm dt+cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+1t+2right)fracmathrm dtt=ln^2 2$$
$$Rightarrow mathcal J_1=colorbluefracln^2 22Rightarrow mathcal J=colorbluefracln^2 22-colorredfracln^2 22=0$$
As for the second part, a small generalization outcomes by experimenting with the blue integral.
In particular, by the same approach we have:
$$int_1^a lnleft(fracx+ax+1right)fracmathrm dxx=int_1^a fracln xxmathrm dx$$
Which gives us a small generalization:
$$int_0^a-1lnleft(fracx+a+1(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dxx+1=0$$
Similarly, (with the substitution $fracabxto x$) we get that:
$$int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)=int_a^b lnleft(fracxaright)fracdxx$$
And the following follows:
$$int_a-1^b-1 lnleft(fraca(x+b+1)(x+1)(x+a+1)right)fracdxx+1=0$$
One might be interested in the following similar generalization too:
$$int_1^tlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+t^2x^3+sx^2+t^2xright)fracdxx=0,quad sin R, t>1$$
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This is what I was looking for; I guess^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:17
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 15:38
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It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task^^'
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:44
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@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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Aug 12 at 16:06
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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That's quite an impressive method to show that the integral vanishes.
For the first part I'll show using a different approach that your integral vanishes.
$$mathcal J=int_0^1 lnleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrm dxx+1oversetx+1=t= colorblueint_1^2lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt-colorredint_1^2 fracln ttmathrm dt$$
Let's denote the blue integral as $mathcal J_1$ then using the substitution $frac2tto t$ we get:
$$mathcal J_1=int_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt=int_1^2 lnleft(frac2(t+1)t+2right)fracmathrm dtt$$
Adding both integrals from above gives us:
$$requirecancel 2mathcal J_1=cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt+int_1^2 fracln 2tmathrm dt+cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+1t+2right)fracmathrm dtt=ln^2 2$$
$$Rightarrow mathcal J_1=colorbluefracln^2 22Rightarrow mathcal J=colorbluefracln^2 22-colorredfracln^2 22=0$$
As for the second part, a small generalization outcomes by experimenting with the blue integral.
In particular, by the same approach we have:
$$int_1^a lnleft(fracx+ax+1right)fracmathrm dxx=int_1^a fracln xxmathrm dx$$
Which gives us a small generalization:
$$int_0^a-1lnleft(fracx+a+1(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dxx+1=0$$
Similarly, (with the substitution $fracabxto x$) we get that:
$$int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)=int_a^b lnleft(fracxaright)fracdxx$$
And the following follows:
$$int_a-1^b-1 lnleft(fraca(x+b+1)(x+1)(x+a+1)right)fracdxx+1=0$$
One might be interested in the following similar generalization too:
$$int_1^tlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+t^2x^3+sx^2+t^2xright)fracdxx=0,quad sin R, t>1$$
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That's quite an impressive method to show that the integral vanishes.
For the first part I'll show using a different approach that your integral vanishes.
$$mathcal J=int_0^1 lnleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrm dxx+1oversetx+1=t= colorblueint_1^2lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt-colorredint_1^2 fracln ttmathrm dt$$
Let's denote the blue integral as $mathcal J_1$ then using the substitution $frac2tto t$ we get:
$$mathcal J_1=int_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt=int_1^2 lnleft(frac2(t+1)t+2right)fracmathrm dtt$$
Adding both integrals from above gives us:
$$requirecancel 2mathcal J_1=cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+2t+1right)fracmathrm dtt+int_1^2 fracln 2tmathrm dt+cancelint_1^2 lnleft(fract+1t+2right)fracmathrm dtt=ln^2 2$$
$$Rightarrow mathcal J_1=colorbluefracln^2 22Rightarrow mathcal J=colorbluefracln^2 22-colorredfracln^2 22=0$$
As for the second part, a small generalization outcomes by experimenting with the blue integral.
In particular, by the same approach we have:
$$int_1^a lnleft(fracx+ax+1right)fracmathrm dxx=int_1^a fracln xxmathrm dx$$
Which gives us a small generalization:
$$int_0^a-1lnleft(fracx+a+1(x+1)(x+2)right)fracmathrm dxx+1=0$$
Similarly, (with the substitution $fracabxto x$) we get that:
$$int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)=int_a^b lnleft(fracxaright)fracdxx$$
And the following follows:
$$int_a-1^b-1 lnleft(fraca(x+b+1)(x+1)(x+a+1)right)fracdxx+1=0$$
One might be interested in the following similar generalization too:
$$int_1^tlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+t^2x^3+sx^2+t^2xright)fracdxx=0,quad sin R, t>1$$
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This is what I was looking for; I guess^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:17
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 15:38
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It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task^^'
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:44
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@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 16:06
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 16:23
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This is what I was looking for; I guess^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:17
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 15:38
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It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task^^'
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:44
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@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 16:06
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 16:23
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This is what I was looking for; I guess
^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D$endgroup$
– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:17
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This is what I was looking for; I guess
^^
(+1) anyway and I'm looking forward to see a generalization (if possible). I guess you know where I got this integral from :D$endgroup$
– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:17
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 15:38
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@mrtaurho I got there a small generalization for now. However since $int_a^b lnleft(fracx+bx+aright)fracdxx=frac12 ln^2 left(fracbaright)$ it might be possible to obtain a better one. (I'll try later to work with it).
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 15:38
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It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task
^^'
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:44
$begingroup$
It's hard to write out your name now :P But yes, this seems promising, I'm curious! As I noted above it was a rather strange by-product to discover this equality; and it was tedious to ran into it three times while hoping for something more helpful for solving the original task
^^'
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 15:44
$begingroup$
@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 16:06
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@mrtaurho just in case you missed it in winter I'll mention that $mathcal I$ (before the self-similar sub was applied) originates from this generalization: math.stackexchange.com/a/3049039/515527. Aka: $$int_1^sqrttlnleft(fracx^4+sx^2+tx(x^2+sx+t)right)fracdxx=0$$
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– Zacky
Aug 12 at 16:06
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 16:23
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As I've upvoted both, the question you linked and your answer, I guess I've seen it at some point. But I'll take a look at it again :)
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Aug 12 at 16:23
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The Answer
I have used the substitution $(x+1)(y+1)=2$ before to good effect because
$$
int_0^1f(x),fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1f!left(tfrac1-y1+yright)fracmathrmdyy+1tag1
$$
If $f(x)=logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)$, then $f!left(frac1-y1+yright)=logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)$. Therefore
$$
int_0^1logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)fracmathrmdyy+1tag2
$$
and since the two sides of $(2)$ are negatives, they are both $0$.
A Generalization
We can generalize $(1)$ by letting $(x+a)(y+a)=a(1+a)$, then we get
$$
int_0^1f(x)fracmathrmdxx+a=int_0^1f!left(tfraca(1-y)a+yright)fracmathrmdyy+atag3
$$
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 17:59
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The Answer
I have used the substitution $(x+1)(y+1)=2$ before to good effect because
$$
int_0^1f(x),fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1f!left(tfrac1-y1+yright)fracmathrmdyy+1tag1
$$
If $f(x)=logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)$, then $f!left(frac1-y1+yright)=logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)$. Therefore
$$
int_0^1logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)fracmathrmdyy+1tag2
$$
and since the two sides of $(2)$ are negatives, they are both $0$.
A Generalization
We can generalize $(1)$ by letting $(x+a)(y+a)=a(1+a)$, then we get
$$
int_0^1f(x)fracmathrmdxx+a=int_0^1f!left(tfraca(1-y)a+yright)fracmathrmdyy+atag3
$$
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 17:59
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The Answer
I have used the substitution $(x+1)(y+1)=2$ before to good effect because
$$
int_0^1f(x),fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1f!left(tfrac1-y1+yright)fracmathrmdyy+1tag1
$$
If $f(x)=logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)$, then $f!left(frac1-y1+yright)=logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)$. Therefore
$$
int_0^1logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)fracmathrmdyy+1tag2
$$
and since the two sides of $(2)$ are negatives, they are both $0$.
A Generalization
We can generalize $(1)$ by letting $(x+a)(y+a)=a(1+a)$, then we get
$$
int_0^1f(x)fracmathrmdxx+a=int_0^1f!left(tfraca(1-y)a+yright)fracmathrmdyy+atag3
$$
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The Answer
I have used the substitution $(x+1)(y+1)=2$ before to good effect because
$$
int_0^1f(x),fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1f!left(tfrac1-y1+yright)fracmathrmdyy+1tag1
$$
If $f(x)=logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)$, then $f!left(frac1-y1+yright)=logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)$. Therefore
$$
int_0^1logleft(fracx+3(x+2)(x+1)right)fracmathrmdxx+1=int_0^1logleft(frac(y+2)(y+1)y+3right)fracmathrmdyy+1tag2
$$
and since the two sides of $(2)$ are negatives, they are both $0$.
A Generalization
We can generalize $(1)$ by letting $(x+a)(y+a)=a(1+a)$, then we get
$$
int_0^1f(x)fracmathrmdxx+a=int_0^1f!left(tfraca(1-y)a+yright)fracmathrmdyy+atag3
$$
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answered Aug 12 at 17:58
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 17:59
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 17:59
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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– mrtaurho
Aug 12 at 17:59
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(+1) Interesting as well.
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Aug 12 at 17:59
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