Dual frame in Riemannian metrics.A surface patch $tildesigma(tilde u,tilde v)$ is a reparametrization of a surface patch $sigma (u,v)$Structure equations on the 3-sphereInterior Derivative and Contraction: Kobayashi and Nomizu.Relating existence of a “potential” with exactness of a certain formFinding a basis for the cohomology vector space of 1-forms in the 2-torus, $H^1 (T^2)$Confusion about differential formsCondition for the $1$-form $fomega$, being $f in C(Omega)$ and $omega = omega_1textdx_1 + omega_2textdx_2$, to be closed.Problem to understand first and second fundamental form of a surface.relationship between $du$ and $partial u$ on a surface patch $sigma$ and its reparameterization $tildesigma$Proof of theorem egregium with moving frames
How does weapons training transfer to empty hand?
Row vectors and column vectors (Mathematica vs Matlab)
Has everyone forgotten about wildfire?
Not taking the bishop with the knight, why?
Does STATISTICS IO output include Version Store reads?
What's the "magic similar to the Knock spell" referenced in the Dungeon of the Mad Mage adventure?
How to avoid making self and former employee look bad when reporting on fixing former employee's work?
Tub Drain SLOWLY Drains - If You Hold "Knob" Down It Drains At Regular Speed
Is it a good idea to copy a trader when investing?
What replaces x86 intrinsics for C when Apple ditches Intel CPUs for their own chips?
Are wands in any sort of book going to be too much like Harry Potter?
Examples where existence is harder than evaluation
Gift for mentor after his thesis defense?
Was the Highlands Ranch shooting the 115th mass shooting in the US in 2019
Which spells are in some way related to shadows or the Shadowfell?
Are double contractions formal? Eg: "couldn't've" for "could not have"
Using wilcox.test() and t.test() in R yielding different p-values
What does the "DS" in "DS-..." US visa application forms stand for?
Narcissistic cube asks who are we?
Why is there a cap on 401k contributions?
My perfect evil overlord plan... or is it?
Output the date in the Mel calendar
Hexagonal Grid Filling
Integral with DiracDelta. Can Mathematica be made to solve this?
Dual frame in Riemannian metrics.
A surface patch $tildesigma(tilde u,tilde v)$ is a reparametrization of a surface patch $sigma (u,v)$Structure equations on the 3-sphereInterior Derivative and Contraction: Kobayashi and Nomizu.Relating existence of a “potential” with exactness of a certain formFinding a basis for the cohomology vector space of 1-forms in the 2-torus, $H^1 (T^2)$Confusion about differential formsCondition for the $1$-form $fomega$, being $f in C(Omega)$ and $omega = omega_1textdx_1 + omega_2textdx_2$, to be closed.Problem to understand first and second fundamental form of a surface.relationship between $du$ and $partial u$ on a surface patch $sigma$ and its reparameterization $tildesigma$Proof of theorem egregium with moving frames
$begingroup$
Suppose that we have a Riemannian metric $ds^2=Edu^2+2Fdudv+Gdv^2$ on a local coordinate neighborhood $(U;(u,v))$ prove that for the following vector fields:
$$e_1=frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u,quad e_2=frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)$$
The $1-$forms:
$$omega_1=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright),quad omega_2=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edv$$
satisfies:
$$omega_i(e_k)=delta_ik$$
My work: Let $p(u,v)$ a differentiable function, I think that I must show fisrtly that $omega_1(e_1(p))=p$, i.e. $omega_1(e_1)=1$ the identity function.
$$omega_1left(tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(p)right)=tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(omega_1(p))$$
I do this beacuse an $1-form$ $alpha$ is such that $alpha(fX)=falpha(X)$. Then It is correct that
$omega_1(p)=sqrtEleft(pdu+fracFEpdvright)?$
and then apply the partial derivative, my problem is that I don't know ho operate the $1$-form. Anyone can guide me in how can I reach the result or a explicit form to operate with $omega_1$ and $omega_2$?
I'm using the book "Umehara, differential geometry of surfaces".
differential-geometry manifolds differential-forms
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Suppose that we have a Riemannian metric $ds^2=Edu^2+2Fdudv+Gdv^2$ on a local coordinate neighborhood $(U;(u,v))$ prove that for the following vector fields:
$$e_1=frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u,quad e_2=frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)$$
The $1-$forms:
$$omega_1=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright),quad omega_2=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edv$$
satisfies:
$$omega_i(e_k)=delta_ik$$
My work: Let $p(u,v)$ a differentiable function, I think that I must show fisrtly that $omega_1(e_1(p))=p$, i.e. $omega_1(e_1)=1$ the identity function.
$$omega_1left(tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(p)right)=tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(omega_1(p))$$
I do this beacuse an $1-form$ $alpha$ is such that $alpha(fX)=falpha(X)$. Then It is correct that
$omega_1(p)=sqrtEleft(pdu+fracFEpdvright)?$
and then apply the partial derivative, my problem is that I don't know ho operate the $1$-form. Anyone can guide me in how can I reach the result or a explicit form to operate with $omega_1$ and $omega_2$?
I'm using the book "Umehara, differential geometry of surfaces".
differential-geometry manifolds differential-forms
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Suppose that we have a Riemannian metric $ds^2=Edu^2+2Fdudv+Gdv^2$ on a local coordinate neighborhood $(U;(u,v))$ prove that for the following vector fields:
$$e_1=frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u,quad e_2=frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)$$
The $1-$forms:
$$omega_1=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright),quad omega_2=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edv$$
satisfies:
$$omega_i(e_k)=delta_ik$$
My work: Let $p(u,v)$ a differentiable function, I think that I must show fisrtly that $omega_1(e_1(p))=p$, i.e. $omega_1(e_1)=1$ the identity function.
$$omega_1left(tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(p)right)=tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(omega_1(p))$$
I do this beacuse an $1-form$ $alpha$ is such that $alpha(fX)=falpha(X)$. Then It is correct that
$omega_1(p)=sqrtEleft(pdu+fracFEpdvright)?$
and then apply the partial derivative, my problem is that I don't know ho operate the $1$-form. Anyone can guide me in how can I reach the result or a explicit form to operate with $omega_1$ and $omega_2$?
I'm using the book "Umehara, differential geometry of surfaces".
differential-geometry manifolds differential-forms
$endgroup$
Suppose that we have a Riemannian metric $ds^2=Edu^2+2Fdudv+Gdv^2$ on a local coordinate neighborhood $(U;(u,v))$ prove that for the following vector fields:
$$e_1=frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u,quad e_2=frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)$$
The $1-$forms:
$$omega_1=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright),quad omega_2=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edv$$
satisfies:
$$omega_i(e_k)=delta_ik$$
My work: Let $p(u,v)$ a differentiable function, I think that I must show fisrtly that $omega_1(e_1(p))=p$, i.e. $omega_1(e_1)=1$ the identity function.
$$omega_1left(tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(p)right)=tfrac1sqrtEtfracpartialpartial u(omega_1(p))$$
I do this beacuse an $1-form$ $alpha$ is such that $alpha(fX)=falpha(X)$. Then It is correct that
$omega_1(p)=sqrtEleft(pdu+fracFEpdvright)?$
and then apply the partial derivative, my problem is that I don't know ho operate the $1$-form. Anyone can guide me in how can I reach the result or a explicit form to operate with $omega_1$ and $omega_2$?
I'm using the book "Umehara, differential geometry of surfaces".
differential-geometry manifolds differential-forms
differential-geometry manifolds differential-forms
asked May 6 at 1:02
Ragnar1204Ragnar1204
531417
531417
add a comment |
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
I think you can do this by direct calculation. Fix $pin U$. If $X_pin TU_p$, then $X_p=apartial_u+bpartial_v$ for some $a,bin mathbb R$, and by definition of the $1-$forms $du$ and $dv$, we have $du(X_p)=a$ and $dv(X_p)=b$. Now, apply this to the tangent vectors $e_1$ and $e_2$:
$omega_1(e_1)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u=sqrt Efrac1sqrt E(partial_uu)=fracsqrt Esqrt E=1$
Similarly,
$omega_1(e_2)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)left(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right )=-fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2left (fracFsqrt E-fracFsqrt EEright )=0.$
$omega_2(e_1)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u right)=sqrtfracEG-F^2E^2partial_u v=0$
and
$omega_2(e_2)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right)=left(sqrtfracEG-F^2Eright)cdot left(fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2right)=1$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that $e_i$ is an orthonormal vector fields wrt $ds^2$. Hence we let $
omega_i=ds^2(e_i,cdot)$ which is dual frame.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3215295%2fdual-frame-in-riemannian-metrics%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
I think you can do this by direct calculation. Fix $pin U$. If $X_pin TU_p$, then $X_p=apartial_u+bpartial_v$ for some $a,bin mathbb R$, and by definition of the $1-$forms $du$ and $dv$, we have $du(X_p)=a$ and $dv(X_p)=b$. Now, apply this to the tangent vectors $e_1$ and $e_2$:
$omega_1(e_1)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u=sqrt Efrac1sqrt E(partial_uu)=fracsqrt Esqrt E=1$
Similarly,
$omega_1(e_2)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)left(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right )=-fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2left (fracFsqrt E-fracFsqrt EEright )=0.$
$omega_2(e_1)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u right)=sqrtfracEG-F^2E^2partial_u v=0$
and
$omega_2(e_2)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right)=left(sqrtfracEG-F^2Eright)cdot left(fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2right)=1$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think you can do this by direct calculation. Fix $pin U$. If $X_pin TU_p$, then $X_p=apartial_u+bpartial_v$ for some $a,bin mathbb R$, and by definition of the $1-$forms $du$ and $dv$, we have $du(X_p)=a$ and $dv(X_p)=b$. Now, apply this to the tangent vectors $e_1$ and $e_2$:
$omega_1(e_1)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u=sqrt Efrac1sqrt E(partial_uu)=fracsqrt Esqrt E=1$
Similarly,
$omega_1(e_2)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)left(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right )=-fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2left (fracFsqrt E-fracFsqrt EEright )=0.$
$omega_2(e_1)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u right)=sqrtfracEG-F^2E^2partial_u v=0$
and
$omega_2(e_2)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right)=left(sqrtfracEG-F^2Eright)cdot left(fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2right)=1$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I think you can do this by direct calculation. Fix $pin U$. If $X_pin TU_p$, then $X_p=apartial_u+bpartial_v$ for some $a,bin mathbb R$, and by definition of the $1-$forms $du$ and $dv$, we have $du(X_p)=a$ and $dv(X_p)=b$. Now, apply this to the tangent vectors $e_1$ and $e_2$:
$omega_1(e_1)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u=sqrt Efrac1sqrt E(partial_uu)=fracsqrt Esqrt E=1$
Similarly,
$omega_1(e_2)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)left(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right )=-fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2left (fracFsqrt E-fracFsqrt EEright )=0.$
$omega_2(e_1)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u right)=sqrtfracEG-F^2E^2partial_u v=0$
and
$omega_2(e_2)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right)=left(sqrtfracEG-F^2Eright)cdot left(fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2right)=1$
$endgroup$
I think you can do this by direct calculation. Fix $pin U$. If $X_pin TU_p$, then $X_p=apartial_u+bpartial_v$ for some $a,bin mathbb R$, and by definition of the $1-$forms $du$ and $dv$, we have $du(X_p)=a$ and $dv(X_p)=b$. Now, apply this to the tangent vectors $e_1$ and $e_2$:
$omega_1(e_1)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u=sqrt Efrac1sqrt E(partial_uu)=fracsqrt Esqrt E=1$
Similarly,
$omega_1(e_2)=sqrtEleft(du+fracFEdvright)left(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right )=-fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2left (fracFsqrt E-fracFsqrt EEright )=0.$
$omega_2(e_1)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac1sqrtEfracpartialpartial u right)=sqrtfracEG-F^2E^2partial_u v=0$
and
$omega_2(e_2)=sqrtfracEG-F^2Edvleft(frac-1sqrtEG-F^2left(fracFsqrtEfracpartialpartial u-sqrtEfracpartialpartial vright)right)=left(sqrtfracEG-F^2Eright)cdot left(fracsqrt EsqrtEG-F^2right)=1$
answered May 6 at 1:56
MatematletaMatematleta
12.5k21020
12.5k21020
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
Wow, what a surprising clear answer! thanks a lot, you've clarified this mess for me, really thanks! +1
$endgroup$
– Ragnar1204
May 6 at 3:11
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
$begingroup$
You are welcome!
$endgroup$
– Matematleta
May 6 at 4:19
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that $e_i$ is an orthonormal vector fields wrt $ds^2$. Hence we let $
omega_i=ds^2(e_i,cdot)$ which is dual frame.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that $e_i$ is an orthonormal vector fields wrt $ds^2$. Hence we let $
omega_i=ds^2(e_i,cdot)$ which is dual frame.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that $e_i$ is an orthonormal vector fields wrt $ds^2$. Hence we let $
omega_i=ds^2(e_i,cdot)$ which is dual frame.
$endgroup$
Note that $e_i$ is an orthonormal vector fields wrt $ds^2$. Hence we let $
omega_i=ds^2(e_i,cdot)$ which is dual frame.
answered May 6 at 1:43
HK LeeHK Lee
14.2k52363
14.2k52363
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3215295%2fdual-frame-in-riemannian-metrics%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown