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Why did Sanhedrin deal with who has a share in Olam Habah?
Are there limitations of the principle “Not in Heaven”?Why King Solomon wasn't worthy of a share in Olam Haba?Why does Gehazi have no share in the world to come?How can Eliyahu say that almost no one in the market has a share in Olam Haba?Why did the people have to respond twice “It is sanctified” when Sanhedrin declared Rosh Hodesh?Rambam's View on Attaining Olam Haba with One MitzvahWhy King Solomon wasn't worthy of a share in Olam Haba?
The Gemmorah (Sanhedrin 104b) describes that the members of the Great Assembly dealt with the question of who does or does not deserve a share in the World to Come.
As they demonstratively disagreed with Heaven (Bat Kol), it is assumed that they didn't have an existing tradition but tried to judge the persons themselves (at least part of it).
As it seemingly has no practical Halachic value, no mentioning that the question is out of their powers anyway, why would they deal with such a question in the first place?
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The Gemmorah (Sanhedrin 104b) describes that the members of the Great Assembly dealt with the question of who does or does not deserve a share in the World to Come.
As they demonstratively disagreed with Heaven (Bat Kol), it is assumed that they didn't have an existing tradition but tried to judge the persons themselves (at least part of it).
As it seemingly has no practical Halachic value, no mentioning that the question is out of their powers anyway, why would they deal with such a question in the first place?
halacha-theory olam-haba-world-to-come anshei-knesset-hagedolah
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The Gemmorah (Sanhedrin 104b) describes that the members of the Great Assembly dealt with the question of who does or does not deserve a share in the World to Come.
As they demonstratively disagreed with Heaven (Bat Kol), it is assumed that they didn't have an existing tradition but tried to judge the persons themselves (at least part of it).
As it seemingly has no practical Halachic value, no mentioning that the question is out of their powers anyway, why would they deal with such a question in the first place?
halacha-theory olam-haba-world-to-come anshei-knesset-hagedolah
edited Jun 6 at 22:29
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The Gemmorah (Sanhedrin 104b) describes that the members of the Great Assembly dealt with the question of who does or does not deserve a share in the World to Come.
As they demonstratively disagreed with Heaven (Bat Kol), it is assumed that they didn't have an existing tradition but tried to judge the persons themselves (at least part of it).
As it seemingly has no practical Halachic value, no mentioning that the question is out of their powers anyway, why would they deal with such a question in the first place?
halacha-theory olam-haba-world-to-come anshei-knesset-hagedolah
halacha-theory olam-haba-world-to-come anshei-knesset-hagedolah
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See Sefer Ha'aros from R' Elyashev z"l (Kesubos 11b) who suggests that it has practical ramifications, since the Heavenly court rules in accordance with the rulings of the earthly Beis Din.
אולי משום שפוסקין למעלה כלמטה, וכדחזינן בפ' חלק (סנהדרין קד ב) לגבי שלמה המלך שבקשו וכו' ומנעום.
See further discussion here (in Hebrew).
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Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
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@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
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See Sefer Ha'aros from R' Elyashev z"l (Kesubos 11b) who suggests that it has practical ramifications, since the Heavenly court rules in accordance with the rulings of the earthly Beis Din.
אולי משום שפוסקין למעלה כלמטה, וכדחזינן בפ' חלק (סנהדרין קד ב) לגבי שלמה המלך שבקשו וכו' ומנעום.
See further discussion here (in Hebrew).
answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
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Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
Jun 6 at 22:51
@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
– IsraelReader
Jun 6 at 23:00
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See Sefer Ha'aros from R' Elyashev z"l (Kesubos 11b) who suggests that it has practical ramifications, since the Heavenly court rules in accordance with the rulings of the earthly Beis Din.
אולי משום שפוסקין למעלה כלמטה, וכדחזינן בפ' חלק (סנהדרין קד ב) לגבי שלמה המלך שבקשו וכו' ומנעום.
See further discussion here (in Hebrew).
answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
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Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
Jun 6 at 22:51
@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
– IsraelReader
Jun 6 at 23:00
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See Sefer Ha'aros from R' Elyashev z"l (Kesubos 11b) who suggests that it has practical ramifications, since the Heavenly court rules in accordance with the rulings of the earthly Beis Din.
אולי משום שפוסקין למעלה כלמטה, וכדחזינן בפ' חלק (סנהדרין קד ב) לגבי שלמה המלך שבקשו וכו' ומנעום.
See further discussion here (in Hebrew).
answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
1,698415
See Sefer Ha'aros from R' Elyashev z"l (Kesubos 11b) who suggests that it has practical ramifications, since the Heavenly court rules in accordance with the rulings of the earthly Beis Din.
אולי משום שפוסקין למעלה כלמטה, וכדחזינן בפ' חלק (סנהדרין קד ב) לגבי שלמה המלך שבקשו וכו' ומנעום.
See further discussion here (in Hebrew).
answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
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answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
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answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
1,698415
answered Jun 6 at 17:58
IsraelReaderIsraelReader
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1,698415
Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
Jun 6 at 22:51
@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
– IsraelReader
Jun 6 at 23:00
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Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
Jun 6 at 22:51
@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
– IsraelReader
Jun 6 at 23:00
Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
Jun 6 at 22:51
Surely someone before Rav Elyasiv z”l addressed this question.
– DonielF
Jun 6 at 22:51
@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
– IsraelReader
Jun 6 at 23:00
@DonielF I made no pretensions that he was the only one to address this question. I wrote a source that I know. You're welcome to add other sources. Did you read the discussion that I linked to? Someone there claims that the Maharsha said a similar thing (but didn't provide a Mar'eh Makom).
– IsraelReader
Jun 6 at 23:00
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