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How do resistors generate different heat if we make the current fixed and changed the voltage and resistance? Notice the flow of charge is constant
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Consider having a circuit which consists of a battery and one resistor.
$V = 10$ volts, $R = 5$ ohms, so $I = 2$ Amperes, and
$P = 20$ watts.
If we double the voltage and resistance, the current will be the same and the power will be equal to 40 watts, hence the resistor will be hotter than the first case.
Now here is the silly question.
The current in each of the two cases is constant and equals the current of the other. The speed which charges move across the wire is constant. So why is more heat generated while the speed of charges is constant? I know that the potential is doubled, but the potential is potential, and we can't make use of potential energy unless it is converted to kinetic energy. How can the resistor make use of this (potential) energy, the mechanism which the resistor turns potential energy into heat.
electric-circuits electric-current electrical-resistance voltage dissipation
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Consider having a circuit which consists of a battery and one resistor.
$V = 10$ volts, $R = 5$ ohms, so $I = 2$ Amperes, and
$P = 20$ watts.
If we double the voltage and resistance, the current will be the same and the power will be equal to 40 watts, hence the resistor will be hotter than the first case.
Now here is the silly question.
The current in each of the two cases is constant and equals the current of the other. The speed which charges move across the wire is constant. So why is more heat generated while the speed of charges is constant? I know that the potential is doubled, but the potential is potential, and we can't make use of potential energy unless it is converted to kinetic energy. How can the resistor make use of this (potential) energy, the mechanism which the resistor turns potential energy into heat.
electric-circuits electric-current electrical-resistance voltage dissipation
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Where does it say that heat is produced by charge alone?
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Consider having a circuit which consists of a battery and one resistor.
$V = 10$ volts, $R = 5$ ohms, so $I = 2$ Amperes, and
$P = 20$ watts.
If we double the voltage and resistance, the current will be the same and the power will be equal to 40 watts, hence the resistor will be hotter than the first case.
Now here is the silly question.
The current in each of the two cases is constant and equals the current of the other. The speed which charges move across the wire is constant. So why is more heat generated while the speed of charges is constant? I know that the potential is doubled, but the potential is potential, and we can't make use of potential energy unless it is converted to kinetic energy. How can the resistor make use of this (potential) energy, the mechanism which the resistor turns potential energy into heat.
electric-circuits electric-current electrical-resistance voltage dissipation
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Consider having a circuit which consists of a battery and one resistor.
$V = 10$ volts, $R = 5$ ohms, so $I = 2$ Amperes, and
$P = 20$ watts.
If we double the voltage and resistance, the current will be the same and the power will be equal to 40 watts, hence the resistor will be hotter than the first case.
Now here is the silly question.
The current in each of the two cases is constant and equals the current of the other. The speed which charges move across the wire is constant. So why is more heat generated while the speed of charges is constant? I know that the potential is doubled, but the potential is potential, and we can't make use of potential energy unless it is converted to kinetic energy. How can the resistor make use of this (potential) energy, the mechanism which the resistor turns potential energy into heat.
electric-circuits electric-current electrical-resistance voltage dissipation
electric-circuits electric-current electrical-resistance voltage dissipation
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Where does it say that heat is produced by charge alone?
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Your initial circuit is like this:
So you get 2A flowing and a power of 20W dissipated in the resistor.
Then you double the voltage and the resistance:
The two batteries add up to single source of 20V. The two resistors add up to a total resistance of 10$Omega$. So, as you correctly state, the current is the same as before (2A). Therefore the power is now 40W
But this power is shared between the two resistors: 20W each, exactly as before.
You might also note that the potential at the point between the resistors is 10V, so each resistor has 10V across it, exactly as before.
Really all you've done is doubled up the circuit so that you have twice of what you had before.
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- Think of sucking liquid through a straw. It flows at a certain speed.
- Now squeeze the straw (increase the resistance). The flow (volume per second) slows down.
- In order to keep the flow-speed high, you must suck harder. That's the voltage (think of it as an electric "pressure"). This dent in the straw is now "using up" all of the pressure, which now is much higher.
Basically, the dent in the straw does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the flow to slow down. You just don't notice because you replenish the flow right away by having the pressure higher.
This is directly analogous to electric circuits: The larger resistance does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the current (electron flow) to slow down since it "sucks out" their kinetic energy. But you don't notice because you counteract this loss with a higher voltage that "forces" the electrons forward to keep the same speed nevertheless.
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Think of the resistor as being like a pipe packed full of magically immoveable (so they won't get swept away by the flow) pebbles(*). The electric current is like water flowing through this pipe. Different resistors have different pebble densities, and the more tightly packed the pebbles are with fewer and more convoluted void spaces between them, the harder it is for the water to get through. The electric field in the wire pushes the water through the pebble bed, like a source of water pressure, such as a pump or downhill slope does with real water.
Now, suppose one pipe has a relatively coarse and gap-filled pebble fill (lower $R$), while the other has a finer and more densely-packed fill (higher $R$). Both are subjected to a flow of water, and those flows are tuned so that both maintain the same perfusion (rate of water making it through) of the pebble bed. Do you think equal driving force, and so pressure, will result in identical perfusion? If not, which do think will need more and which less?
And then, if you're driving it harder, that means a greater force is being exerted and more work is being done in any given time to get the same result (flow or rate of perfusion), hence the faster also the rate at which energy is being dissipated into heat. Which, then, has the largest dissipation and hence gets the hottest?
(*) NB to other readers: Technically, the "pebbles" in a real resistor are moveable and, in fact, flying around all over (for a suitably quantum-mechanically fuzzy notion of 'flying'), but I am using this to keep the illustration simple.
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Here's a mental experiment you can do.
Take a resistor which generates a certain amount of heat Q while a voltage is applied to it, resulting in a current. Now, cut the resistor into two equal parts perpendicular to the direction of the current. Quite obviously, if the whole resistor generated Q, each part should generate Q/2. Yet, the current in each part is exactly the same, so by your logic each half should still generate the same amount of heat as the initial resistor.
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Your initial circuit is like this:
So you get 2A flowing and a power of 20W dissipated in the resistor.
Then you double the voltage and the resistance:
The two batteries add up to single source of 20V. The two resistors add up to a total resistance of 10$Omega$. So, as you correctly state, the current is the same as before (2A). Therefore the power is now 40W
But this power is shared between the two resistors: 20W each, exactly as before.
You might also note that the potential at the point between the resistors is 10V, so each resistor has 10V across it, exactly as before.
Really all you've done is doubled up the circuit so that you have twice of what you had before.
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Your initial circuit is like this:
So you get 2A flowing and a power of 20W dissipated in the resistor.
Then you double the voltage and the resistance:
The two batteries add up to single source of 20V. The two resistors add up to a total resistance of 10$Omega$. So, as you correctly state, the current is the same as before (2A). Therefore the power is now 40W
But this power is shared between the two resistors: 20W each, exactly as before.
You might also note that the potential at the point between the resistors is 10V, so each resistor has 10V across it, exactly as before.
Really all you've done is doubled up the circuit so that you have twice of what you had before.
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Your initial circuit is like this:
So you get 2A flowing and a power of 20W dissipated in the resistor.
Then you double the voltage and the resistance:
The two batteries add up to single source of 20V. The two resistors add up to a total resistance of 10$Omega$. So, as you correctly state, the current is the same as before (2A). Therefore the power is now 40W
But this power is shared between the two resistors: 20W each, exactly as before.
You might also note that the potential at the point between the resistors is 10V, so each resistor has 10V across it, exactly as before.
Really all you've done is doubled up the circuit so that you have twice of what you had before.
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Your initial circuit is like this:
So you get 2A flowing and a power of 20W dissipated in the resistor.
Then you double the voltage and the resistance:
The two batteries add up to single source of 20V. The two resistors add up to a total resistance of 10$Omega$. So, as you correctly state, the current is the same as before (2A). Therefore the power is now 40W
But this power is shared between the two resistors: 20W each, exactly as before.
You might also note that the potential at the point between the resistors is 10V, so each resistor has 10V across it, exactly as before.
Really all you've done is doubled up the circuit so that you have twice of what you had before.
answered Jul 4 at 14:00
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- Think of sucking liquid through a straw. It flows at a certain speed.
- Now squeeze the straw (increase the resistance). The flow (volume per second) slows down.
- In order to keep the flow-speed high, you must suck harder. That's the voltage (think of it as an electric "pressure"). This dent in the straw is now "using up" all of the pressure, which now is much higher.
Basically, the dent in the straw does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the flow to slow down. You just don't notice because you replenish the flow right away by having the pressure higher.
This is directly analogous to electric circuits: The larger resistance does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the current (electron flow) to slow down since it "sucks out" their kinetic energy. But you don't notice because you counteract this loss with a higher voltage that "forces" the electrons forward to keep the same speed nevertheless.
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- Think of sucking liquid through a straw. It flows at a certain speed.
- Now squeeze the straw (increase the resistance). The flow (volume per second) slows down.
- In order to keep the flow-speed high, you must suck harder. That's the voltage (think of it as an electric "pressure"). This dent in the straw is now "using up" all of the pressure, which now is much higher.
Basically, the dent in the straw does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the flow to slow down. You just don't notice because you replenish the flow right away by having the pressure higher.
This is directly analogous to electric circuits: The larger resistance does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the current (electron flow) to slow down since it "sucks out" their kinetic energy. But you don't notice because you counteract this loss with a higher voltage that "forces" the electrons forward to keep the same speed nevertheless.
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- Think of sucking liquid through a straw. It flows at a certain speed.
- Now squeeze the straw (increase the resistance). The flow (volume per second) slows down.
- In order to keep the flow-speed high, you must suck harder. That's the voltage (think of it as an electric "pressure"). This dent in the straw is now "using up" all of the pressure, which now is much higher.
Basically, the dent in the straw does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the flow to slow down. You just don't notice because you replenish the flow right away by having the pressure higher.
This is directly analogous to electric circuits: The larger resistance does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the current (electron flow) to slow down since it "sucks out" their kinetic energy. But you don't notice because you counteract this loss with a higher voltage that "forces" the electrons forward to keep the same speed nevertheless.
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- Think of sucking liquid through a straw. It flows at a certain speed.
- Now squeeze the straw (increase the resistance). The flow (volume per second) slows down.
- In order to keep the flow-speed high, you must suck harder. That's the voltage (think of it as an electric "pressure"). This dent in the straw is now "using up" all of the pressure, which now is much higher.
Basically, the dent in the straw does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the flow to slow down. You just don't notice because you replenish the flow right away by having the pressure higher.
This is directly analogous to electric circuits: The larger resistance does cause energy loss and thus would have caused the current (electron flow) to slow down since it "sucks out" their kinetic energy. But you don't notice because you counteract this loss with a higher voltage that "forces" the electrons forward to keep the same speed nevertheless.
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Think of the resistor as being like a pipe packed full of magically immoveable (so they won't get swept away by the flow) pebbles(*). The electric current is like water flowing through this pipe. Different resistors have different pebble densities, and the more tightly packed the pebbles are with fewer and more convoluted void spaces between them, the harder it is for the water to get through. The electric field in the wire pushes the water through the pebble bed, like a source of water pressure, such as a pump or downhill slope does with real water.
Now, suppose one pipe has a relatively coarse and gap-filled pebble fill (lower $R$), while the other has a finer and more densely-packed fill (higher $R$). Both are subjected to a flow of water, and those flows are tuned so that both maintain the same perfusion (rate of water making it through) of the pebble bed. Do you think equal driving force, and so pressure, will result in identical perfusion? If not, which do think will need more and which less?
And then, if you're driving it harder, that means a greater force is being exerted and more work is being done in any given time to get the same result (flow or rate of perfusion), hence the faster also the rate at which energy is being dissipated into heat. Which, then, has the largest dissipation and hence gets the hottest?
(*) NB to other readers: Technically, the "pebbles" in a real resistor are moveable and, in fact, flying around all over (for a suitably quantum-mechanically fuzzy notion of 'flying'), but I am using this to keep the illustration simple.
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Think of the resistor as being like a pipe packed full of magically immoveable (so they won't get swept away by the flow) pebbles(*). The electric current is like water flowing through this pipe. Different resistors have different pebble densities, and the more tightly packed the pebbles are with fewer and more convoluted void spaces between them, the harder it is for the water to get through. The electric field in the wire pushes the water through the pebble bed, like a source of water pressure, such as a pump or downhill slope does with real water.
Now, suppose one pipe has a relatively coarse and gap-filled pebble fill (lower $R$), while the other has a finer and more densely-packed fill (higher $R$). Both are subjected to a flow of water, and those flows are tuned so that both maintain the same perfusion (rate of water making it through) of the pebble bed. Do you think equal driving force, and so pressure, will result in identical perfusion? If not, which do think will need more and which less?
And then, if you're driving it harder, that means a greater force is being exerted and more work is being done in any given time to get the same result (flow or rate of perfusion), hence the faster also the rate at which energy is being dissipated into heat. Which, then, has the largest dissipation and hence gets the hottest?
(*) NB to other readers: Technically, the "pebbles" in a real resistor are moveable and, in fact, flying around all over (for a suitably quantum-mechanically fuzzy notion of 'flying'), but I am using this to keep the illustration simple.
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Think of the resistor as being like a pipe packed full of magically immoveable (so they won't get swept away by the flow) pebbles(*). The electric current is like water flowing through this pipe. Different resistors have different pebble densities, and the more tightly packed the pebbles are with fewer and more convoluted void spaces between them, the harder it is for the water to get through. The electric field in the wire pushes the water through the pebble bed, like a source of water pressure, such as a pump or downhill slope does with real water.
Now, suppose one pipe has a relatively coarse and gap-filled pebble fill (lower $R$), while the other has a finer and more densely-packed fill (higher $R$). Both are subjected to a flow of water, and those flows are tuned so that both maintain the same perfusion (rate of water making it through) of the pebble bed. Do you think equal driving force, and so pressure, will result in identical perfusion? If not, which do think will need more and which less?
And then, if you're driving it harder, that means a greater force is being exerted and more work is being done in any given time to get the same result (flow or rate of perfusion), hence the faster also the rate at which energy is being dissipated into heat. Which, then, has the largest dissipation and hence gets the hottest?
(*) NB to other readers: Technically, the "pebbles" in a real resistor are moveable and, in fact, flying around all over (for a suitably quantum-mechanically fuzzy notion of 'flying'), but I am using this to keep the illustration simple.
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Think of the resistor as being like a pipe packed full of magically immoveable (so they won't get swept away by the flow) pebbles(*). The electric current is like water flowing through this pipe. Different resistors have different pebble densities, and the more tightly packed the pebbles are with fewer and more convoluted void spaces between them, the harder it is for the water to get through. The electric field in the wire pushes the water through the pebble bed, like a source of water pressure, such as a pump or downhill slope does with real water.
Now, suppose one pipe has a relatively coarse and gap-filled pebble fill (lower $R$), while the other has a finer and more densely-packed fill (higher $R$). Both are subjected to a flow of water, and those flows are tuned so that both maintain the same perfusion (rate of water making it through) of the pebble bed. Do you think equal driving force, and so pressure, will result in identical perfusion? If not, which do think will need more and which less?
And then, if you're driving it harder, that means a greater force is being exerted and more work is being done in any given time to get the same result (flow or rate of perfusion), hence the faster also the rate at which energy is being dissipated into heat. Which, then, has the largest dissipation and hence gets the hottest?
(*) NB to other readers: Technically, the "pebbles" in a real resistor are moveable and, in fact, flying around all over (for a suitably quantum-mechanically fuzzy notion of 'flying'), but I am using this to keep the illustration simple.
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Here's a mental experiment you can do.
Take a resistor which generates a certain amount of heat Q while a voltage is applied to it, resulting in a current. Now, cut the resistor into two equal parts perpendicular to the direction of the current. Quite obviously, if the whole resistor generated Q, each part should generate Q/2. Yet, the current in each part is exactly the same, so by your logic each half should still generate the same amount of heat as the initial resistor.
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Thank you a lot .
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– Mahmoud Amin
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Here's a mental experiment you can do.
Take a resistor which generates a certain amount of heat Q while a voltage is applied to it, resulting in a current. Now, cut the resistor into two equal parts perpendicular to the direction of the current. Quite obviously, if the whole resistor generated Q, each part should generate Q/2. Yet, the current in each part is exactly the same, so by your logic each half should still generate the same amount of heat as the initial resistor.
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Thank you a lot .
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– Mahmoud Amin
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Here's a mental experiment you can do.
Take a resistor which generates a certain amount of heat Q while a voltage is applied to it, resulting in a current. Now, cut the resistor into two equal parts perpendicular to the direction of the current. Quite obviously, if the whole resistor generated Q, each part should generate Q/2. Yet, the current in each part is exactly the same, so by your logic each half should still generate the same amount of heat as the initial resistor.
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Here's a mental experiment you can do.
Take a resistor which generates a certain amount of heat Q while a voltage is applied to it, resulting in a current. Now, cut the resistor into two equal parts perpendicular to the direction of the current. Quite obviously, if the whole resistor generated Q, each part should generate Q/2. Yet, the current in each part is exactly the same, so by your logic each half should still generate the same amount of heat as the initial resistor.
answered Jul 5 at 9:37
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Thank you a lot .
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Thank you a lot .
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– Mahmoud Amin
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Thank you a lot .
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Thank you a lot .
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Where does it say that heat is produced by charge alone?
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– user207421
Jul 5 at 9:47