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How many samples should I use?


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I finished my model and if I render it using 128 or 2048 samples it looks the same.How many samples should I use?
The only thing that samples do is to rid of the grain?










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    If the result with 128 and 2048 samples exactly looks the same upload a part of the two images and your render sample settings. (You have not perhaps confused the viewport samples for the render samples?)
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    The question is formed looking from a different perspective, I don't think we should count it as a duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?. I think people might be looking for such information specifically from the perspective of the amount of samples, not noise, so it might be useful to have it formed this way as well.
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I finished my model and if I render it using 128 or 2048 samples it looks the same.How many samples should I use?
The only thing that samples do is to rid of the grain?










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    Possible duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?
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    If the result with 128 and 2048 samples exactly looks the same upload a part of the two images and your render sample settings. (You have not perhaps confused the viewport samples for the render samples?)
    $endgroup$
    – Leander
    Aug 13 at 7:21











  • $begingroup$
    The question is formed looking from a different perspective, I don't think we should count it as a duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?. I think people might be looking for such information specifically from the perspective of the amount of samples, not noise, so it might be useful to have it formed this way as well.
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I finished my model and if I render it using 128 or 2048 samples it looks the same.How many samples should I use?
The only thing that samples do is to rid of the grain?










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The only thing that samples do is to rid of the grain?







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  • $begingroup$
    If the result with 128 and 2048 samples exactly looks the same upload a part of the two images and your render sample settings. (You have not perhaps confused the viewport samples for the render samples?)
    $endgroup$
    – Leander
    Aug 13 at 7:21











  • $begingroup$
    The question is formed looking from a different perspective, I don't think we should count it as a duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?. I think people might be looking for such information specifically from the perspective of the amount of samples, not noise, so it might be useful to have it formed this way as well.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Z
    Aug 13 at 8:17












  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Possible duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?
    $endgroup$
    – Leander
    Aug 13 at 7:21










  • $begingroup$
    If the result with 128 and 2048 samples exactly looks the same upload a part of the two images and your render sample settings. (You have not perhaps confused the viewport samples for the render samples?)
    $endgroup$
    – Leander
    Aug 13 at 7:21











  • $begingroup$
    The question is formed looking from a different perspective, I don't think we should count it as a duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?. I think people might be looking for such information specifically from the perspective of the amount of samples, not noise, so it might be useful to have it formed this way as well.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Z
    Aug 13 at 8:17







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$begingroup$
Possible duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?
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– Leander
Aug 13 at 7:21




$begingroup$
Possible duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?
$endgroup$
– Leander
Aug 13 at 7:21












$begingroup$
If the result with 128 and 2048 samples exactly looks the same upload a part of the two images and your render sample settings. (You have not perhaps confused the viewport samples for the render samples?)
$endgroup$
– Leander
Aug 13 at 7:21





$begingroup$
If the result with 128 and 2048 samples exactly looks the same upload a part of the two images and your render sample settings. (You have not perhaps confused the viewport samples for the render samples?)
$endgroup$
– Leander
Aug 13 at 7:21













$begingroup$
The question is formed looking from a different perspective, I don't think we should count it as a duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?. I think people might be looking for such information specifically from the perspective of the amount of samples, not noise, so it might be useful to have it formed this way as well.
$endgroup$
– Martin Z
Aug 13 at 8:17




$begingroup$
The question is formed looking from a different perspective, I don't think we should count it as a duplicate of How to avoid noisy renders in Cycles?. I think people might be looking for such information specifically from the perspective of the amount of samples, not noise, so it might be useful to have it formed this way as well.
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You find the right amount of samples by testing what is enough to get a clear image



Samples represent the calculations of how each pixel should look. During one sample a path from a pixel to a light source is calculated. A ray travelling that path is effected by various interactions with surfaces in the scene and this is how the colour of the pixel is determined. The same pixel can be a result of light coming from a lot of directions so the more samples, the more accurate the result, because they each calculate another path checking if it goes to some light source.



So simple scenes with direct lighting need a lot less samples than complex scenes with a lot of indirect light or caustics for the render to have less noise/grain. To determine the correct amount of samples for your scene you should test, how many samples is enough. You can start with fewer samples and make test renders to see if it's enough while increasing the amount. If you do this with the whole image this might take too much time so you can render only regions for testing (ctrl+b in edit mode to define region, ctrl+alt+b to remove region):



enter image description here



It is best to chose the regions that are the darkest lit places that will have the most indirect light and therefore are most likely to contain noise or any areas that you suspect might have more noise. You can also choose progressive rendering and just look at the render while it's going to see how many samples is enough.






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You should use how ever many samples looks good.



But are you talking about Cycles? Evee? Workbench? The renderer you use makes the sample number mean a different thing. Cycles also has two methods of generating samples (branched vs non-branched).



The complexity of the lighting in your scene will also impact how many samples you need.



It's actually a pretty complicated topic that depends on what renderer you are using. Changing the number of samples effects multiple different passes, not just the obvious anti-aliasing pass.






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    You find the right amount of samples by testing what is enough to get a clear image



    Samples represent the calculations of how each pixel should look. During one sample a path from a pixel to a light source is calculated. A ray travelling that path is effected by various interactions with surfaces in the scene and this is how the colour of the pixel is determined. The same pixel can be a result of light coming from a lot of directions so the more samples, the more accurate the result, because they each calculate another path checking if it goes to some light source.



    So simple scenes with direct lighting need a lot less samples than complex scenes with a lot of indirect light or caustics for the render to have less noise/grain. To determine the correct amount of samples for your scene you should test, how many samples is enough. You can start with fewer samples and make test renders to see if it's enough while increasing the amount. If you do this with the whole image this might take too much time so you can render only regions for testing (ctrl+b in edit mode to define region, ctrl+alt+b to remove region):



    enter image description here



    It is best to chose the regions that are the darkest lit places that will have the most indirect light and therefore are most likely to contain noise or any areas that you suspect might have more noise. You can also choose progressive rendering and just look at the render while it's going to see how many samples is enough.






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    $begingroup$

    You find the right amount of samples by testing what is enough to get a clear image



    Samples represent the calculations of how each pixel should look. During one sample a path from a pixel to a light source is calculated. A ray travelling that path is effected by various interactions with surfaces in the scene and this is how the colour of the pixel is determined. The same pixel can be a result of light coming from a lot of directions so the more samples, the more accurate the result, because they each calculate another path checking if it goes to some light source.



    So simple scenes with direct lighting need a lot less samples than complex scenes with a lot of indirect light or caustics for the render to have less noise/grain. To determine the correct amount of samples for your scene you should test, how many samples is enough. You can start with fewer samples and make test renders to see if it's enough while increasing the amount. If you do this with the whole image this might take too much time so you can render only regions for testing (ctrl+b in edit mode to define region, ctrl+alt+b to remove region):



    enter image description here



    It is best to chose the regions that are the darkest lit places that will have the most indirect light and therefore are most likely to contain noise or any areas that you suspect might have more noise. You can also choose progressive rendering and just look at the render while it's going to see how many samples is enough.






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    You find the right amount of samples by testing what is enough to get a clear image



    Samples represent the calculations of how each pixel should look. During one sample a path from a pixel to a light source is calculated. A ray travelling that path is effected by various interactions with surfaces in the scene and this is how the colour of the pixel is determined. The same pixel can be a result of light coming from a lot of directions so the more samples, the more accurate the result, because they each calculate another path checking if it goes to some light source.



    So simple scenes with direct lighting need a lot less samples than complex scenes with a lot of indirect light or caustics for the render to have less noise/grain. To determine the correct amount of samples for your scene you should test, how many samples is enough. You can start with fewer samples and make test renders to see if it's enough while increasing the amount. If you do this with the whole image this might take too much time so you can render only regions for testing (ctrl+b in edit mode to define region, ctrl+alt+b to remove region):



    enter image description here



    It is best to chose the regions that are the darkest lit places that will have the most indirect light and therefore are most likely to contain noise or any areas that you suspect might have more noise. You can also choose progressive rendering and just look at the render while it's going to see how many samples is enough.






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    You find the right amount of samples by testing what is enough to get a clear image



    Samples represent the calculations of how each pixel should look. During one sample a path from a pixel to a light source is calculated. A ray travelling that path is effected by various interactions with surfaces in the scene and this is how the colour of the pixel is determined. The same pixel can be a result of light coming from a lot of directions so the more samples, the more accurate the result, because they each calculate another path checking if it goes to some light source.



    So simple scenes with direct lighting need a lot less samples than complex scenes with a lot of indirect light or caustics for the render to have less noise/grain. To determine the correct amount of samples for your scene you should test, how many samples is enough. You can start with fewer samples and make test renders to see if it's enough while increasing the amount. If you do this with the whole image this might take too much time so you can render only regions for testing (ctrl+b in edit mode to define region, ctrl+alt+b to remove region):



    enter image description here



    It is best to chose the regions that are the darkest lit places that will have the most indirect light and therefore are most likely to contain noise or any areas that you suspect might have more noise. You can also choose progressive rendering and just look at the render while it's going to see how many samples is enough.







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      You can set the Viewport Samples to 0 and it will keep on going. Just watch for the right level of detail for your scene.
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      You can set the Viewport Samples to 0 and it will keep on going. Just watch for the right level of detail for your scene.
      $endgroup$
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    You should use how ever many samples looks good.



    But are you talking about Cycles? Evee? Workbench? The renderer you use makes the sample number mean a different thing. Cycles also has two methods of generating samples (branched vs non-branched).



    The complexity of the lighting in your scene will also impact how many samples you need.



    It's actually a pretty complicated topic that depends on what renderer you are using. Changing the number of samples effects multiple different passes, not just the obvious anti-aliasing pass.






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      You should use how ever many samples looks good.



      But are you talking about Cycles? Evee? Workbench? The renderer you use makes the sample number mean a different thing. Cycles also has two methods of generating samples (branched vs non-branched).



      The complexity of the lighting in your scene will also impact how many samples you need.



      It's actually a pretty complicated topic that depends on what renderer you are using. Changing the number of samples effects multiple different passes, not just the obvious anti-aliasing pass.






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        You should use how ever many samples looks good.



        But are you talking about Cycles? Evee? Workbench? The renderer you use makes the sample number mean a different thing. Cycles also has two methods of generating samples (branched vs non-branched).



        The complexity of the lighting in your scene will also impact how many samples you need.



        It's actually a pretty complicated topic that depends on what renderer you are using. Changing the number of samples effects multiple different passes, not just the obvious anti-aliasing pass.






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        You should use how ever many samples looks good.



        But are you talking about Cycles? Evee? Workbench? The renderer you use makes the sample number mean a different thing. Cycles also has two methods of generating samples (branched vs non-branched).



        The complexity of the lighting in your scene will also impact how many samples you need.



        It's actually a pretty complicated topic that depends on what renderer you are using. Changing the number of samples effects multiple different passes, not just the obvious anti-aliasing pass.







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