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If you know the location of an invisible creature, can you attack it?
What happens when an invisible creature is detected?What happens when allies occupy the same space?In combat, do creatures have complete knowledge of the locations of all other non-Hidden creatures in the combat?Does the rule that you cannot willingly end your move in another creature's space force or prevent certain actions?Do you need a Ranger's Feral Senses to have positional awareness of invisibile creatures?Losing concentration on Conjure Elemental if you summon an Invisible Stalker?Fighting an Invisible StalkerDo you need to take the Hide action when you are Invisible, make no noise and leave no traces?What does an Invisible Stalker do if not given a command by its summoner?Does Whirlwind Attack hit unknown invisible creatures within reach?When an invisible character leaves a blindsight creature's reach, does the creature get an Opportunity Attack?How can I best narrate the position of an unhidden invisible skeleton?RAW, does Truesight negate the Disadvantage component of attacking an Invisible Target?Can a character with the Polearm Master feat make an opportunity attack against an invisible creature that enters their reach?Can an invisible creature see themselves and their own gear?
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Let's say a barbarian named Boomtar is in a room with stalkers and can’t see them because they are invisible and stealthy. Boomtar bravely lunges forward and happens to run into the stalker. May Boomtar then make an attack at the stalker?
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Let's say a barbarian named Boomtar is in a room with stalkers and can’t see them because they are invisible and stealthy. Boomtar bravely lunges forward and happens to run into the stalker. May Boomtar then make an attack at the stalker?
dnd-5e attack invisibility
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Is the creature merely invisible but still audible or actually hidden (invisible and inaudible)
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Just invisible, but interested in both scenarios
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Let's say a barbarian named Boomtar is in a room with stalkers and can’t see them because they are invisible and stealthy. Boomtar bravely lunges forward and happens to run into the stalker. May Boomtar then make an attack at the stalker?
dnd-5e attack invisibility
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Let's say a barbarian named Boomtar is in a room with stalkers and can’t see them because they are invisible and stealthy. Boomtar bravely lunges forward and happens to run into the stalker. May Boomtar then make an attack at the stalker?
dnd-5e attack invisibility
dnd-5e attack invisibility
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Is the creature merely invisible but still audible or actually hidden (invisible and inaudible)
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Just invisible, but interested in both scenarios
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Is the creature merely invisible but still audible or actually hidden (invisible and inaudible)
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– Medix2
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Just invisible, but interested in both scenarios
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Is the creature merely invisible but still audible or actually hidden (invisible and inaudible)
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– Medix2
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Is the creature merely invisible but still audible or actually hidden (invisible and inaudible)
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Just invisible, but interested in both scenarios
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Knowing where an invisible creature is allows you to attack them at disadvantage.
There are two related questions, here and here explaining that if you are invisible that other creatures do still know where you are because they can still hear you. The "Unseen Attacks" section states:
When you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll. This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see...
Thus if the target is merely invisible, but can still be heard then you would already know its location and could attack it at disadvantage as described above.
Note that even if a creature were hidden (invisible and inaudible) you could still guess at its location, however the section quoted above continues, saying:
If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly...
If a creature instead is hidden, and you bump into it, presumably you would know where it is and thus you could make an attack at disadvantage like in the invisible case. However, there is at least one odd problem which results from the rule on "Moving Around Other Creatures":
You can move through a nonhostile creature's space. In contrast, you can move through a hostile creature's space only if the creature is at least two sizes larger or smaller than you. Remember that another creature's space is difficult terrain for you.
If an enemy were one size larger or smaller than you, then you would be prevented from moving into its space and could simply attack that space at disadvantage.
However if an enemy were at least two sizes larger or smaller than you, then you would enter its space, and bump into them and thus presumably know where they are. But you cannot attack them, this is because of the following rule:
Whether a creature is a friend or an enemy, you can't willingly end your move in its space...
As shown in this Q/A the quote above applies to your entire move, meaning you cannot make an attack while in another creature's space if you know that they are there. Thus you would first have to leave the creature's space in order to attack them.
An exception is if you were out of movement when you entered the creatures space. You did not know they were there and so this would not be a willing ending of your movement there, it just so happened that a creature was there when you ran out of movement. Thus you would be allowed to attack even while in its space.
This Q/A agrees with my claim that you would be allowed to do what you want with your action, and thus could attack the creature while in its space.
You can attack an invisible creature at disadvantage if you know where they are, otherwise you would have to guess their location.
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You can attack an invisible creature even without having to run into it.
The invisible condition states:
An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. [...] The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves.
Invisible is not the same as hidden as pointed out in the answer to this question.
Unless a creature is hidden, other creatures know the location of an invisible opponent without needing to make an ability check because "the creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves". Therefore you can attack an invisible creature without having to run into it in the first place, the attack just has disadvantage.
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
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– Mark Wells
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
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Knowing where an invisible creature is allows you to attack them at disadvantage.
There are two related questions, here and here explaining that if you are invisible that other creatures do still know where you are because they can still hear you. The "Unseen Attacks" section states:
When you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll. This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see...
Thus if the target is merely invisible, but can still be heard then you would already know its location and could attack it at disadvantage as described above.
Note that even if a creature were hidden (invisible and inaudible) you could still guess at its location, however the section quoted above continues, saying:
If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly...
If a creature instead is hidden, and you bump into it, presumably you would know where it is and thus you could make an attack at disadvantage like in the invisible case. However, there is at least one odd problem which results from the rule on "Moving Around Other Creatures":
You can move through a nonhostile creature's space. In contrast, you can move through a hostile creature's space only if the creature is at least two sizes larger or smaller than you. Remember that another creature's space is difficult terrain for you.
If an enemy were one size larger or smaller than you, then you would be prevented from moving into its space and could simply attack that space at disadvantage.
However if an enemy were at least two sizes larger or smaller than you, then you would enter its space, and bump into them and thus presumably know where they are. But you cannot attack them, this is because of the following rule:
Whether a creature is a friend or an enemy, you can't willingly end your move in its space...
As shown in this Q/A the quote above applies to your entire move, meaning you cannot make an attack while in another creature's space if you know that they are there. Thus you would first have to leave the creature's space in order to attack them.
An exception is if you were out of movement when you entered the creatures space. You did not know they were there and so this would not be a willing ending of your movement there, it just so happened that a creature was there when you ran out of movement. Thus you would be allowed to attack even while in its space.
This Q/A agrees with my claim that you would be allowed to do what you want with your action, and thus could attack the creature while in its space.
You can attack an invisible creature at disadvantage if you know where they are, otherwise you would have to guess their location.
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Knowing where an invisible creature is allows you to attack them at disadvantage.
There are two related questions, here and here explaining that if you are invisible that other creatures do still know where you are because they can still hear you. The "Unseen Attacks" section states:
When you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll. This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see...
Thus if the target is merely invisible, but can still be heard then you would already know its location and could attack it at disadvantage as described above.
Note that even if a creature were hidden (invisible and inaudible) you could still guess at its location, however the section quoted above continues, saying:
If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly...
If a creature instead is hidden, and you bump into it, presumably you would know where it is and thus you could make an attack at disadvantage like in the invisible case. However, there is at least one odd problem which results from the rule on "Moving Around Other Creatures":
You can move through a nonhostile creature's space. In contrast, you can move through a hostile creature's space only if the creature is at least two sizes larger or smaller than you. Remember that another creature's space is difficult terrain for you.
If an enemy were one size larger or smaller than you, then you would be prevented from moving into its space and could simply attack that space at disadvantage.
However if an enemy were at least two sizes larger or smaller than you, then you would enter its space, and bump into them and thus presumably know where they are. But you cannot attack them, this is because of the following rule:
Whether a creature is a friend or an enemy, you can't willingly end your move in its space...
As shown in this Q/A the quote above applies to your entire move, meaning you cannot make an attack while in another creature's space if you know that they are there. Thus you would first have to leave the creature's space in order to attack them.
An exception is if you were out of movement when you entered the creatures space. You did not know they were there and so this would not be a willing ending of your movement there, it just so happened that a creature was there when you ran out of movement. Thus you would be allowed to attack even while in its space.
This Q/A agrees with my claim that you would be allowed to do what you want with your action, and thus could attack the creature while in its space.
You can attack an invisible creature at disadvantage if you know where they are, otherwise you would have to guess their location.
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Knowing where an invisible creature is allows you to attack them at disadvantage.
There are two related questions, here and here explaining that if you are invisible that other creatures do still know where you are because they can still hear you. The "Unseen Attacks" section states:
When you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll. This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see...
Thus if the target is merely invisible, but can still be heard then you would already know its location and could attack it at disadvantage as described above.
Note that even if a creature were hidden (invisible and inaudible) you could still guess at its location, however the section quoted above continues, saying:
If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly...
If a creature instead is hidden, and you bump into it, presumably you would know where it is and thus you could make an attack at disadvantage like in the invisible case. However, there is at least one odd problem which results from the rule on "Moving Around Other Creatures":
You can move through a nonhostile creature's space. In contrast, you can move through a hostile creature's space only if the creature is at least two sizes larger or smaller than you. Remember that another creature's space is difficult terrain for you.
If an enemy were one size larger or smaller than you, then you would be prevented from moving into its space and could simply attack that space at disadvantage.
However if an enemy were at least two sizes larger or smaller than you, then you would enter its space, and bump into them and thus presumably know where they are. But you cannot attack them, this is because of the following rule:
Whether a creature is a friend or an enemy, you can't willingly end your move in its space...
As shown in this Q/A the quote above applies to your entire move, meaning you cannot make an attack while in another creature's space if you know that they are there. Thus you would first have to leave the creature's space in order to attack them.
An exception is if you were out of movement when you entered the creatures space. You did not know they were there and so this would not be a willing ending of your movement there, it just so happened that a creature was there when you ran out of movement. Thus you would be allowed to attack even while in its space.
This Q/A agrees with my claim that you would be allowed to do what you want with your action, and thus could attack the creature while in its space.
You can attack an invisible creature at disadvantage if you know where they are, otherwise you would have to guess their location.
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Knowing where an invisible creature is allows you to attack them at disadvantage.
There are two related questions, here and here explaining that if you are invisible that other creatures do still know where you are because they can still hear you. The "Unseen Attacks" section states:
When you attack a target that you can't see, you have disadvantage on the attack roll. This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see...
Thus if the target is merely invisible, but can still be heard then you would already know its location and could attack it at disadvantage as described above.
Note that even if a creature were hidden (invisible and inaudible) you could still guess at its location, however the section quoted above continues, saying:
If the target isn't in the location you targeted, you automatically miss, but the DM typically just says that the attack missed, not whether you guessed the target's location correctly...
If a creature instead is hidden, and you bump into it, presumably you would know where it is and thus you could make an attack at disadvantage like in the invisible case. However, there is at least one odd problem which results from the rule on "Moving Around Other Creatures":
You can move through a nonhostile creature's space. In contrast, you can move through a hostile creature's space only if the creature is at least two sizes larger or smaller than you. Remember that another creature's space is difficult terrain for you.
If an enemy were one size larger or smaller than you, then you would be prevented from moving into its space and could simply attack that space at disadvantage.
However if an enemy were at least two sizes larger or smaller than you, then you would enter its space, and bump into them and thus presumably know where they are. But you cannot attack them, this is because of the following rule:
Whether a creature is a friend or an enemy, you can't willingly end your move in its space...
As shown in this Q/A the quote above applies to your entire move, meaning you cannot make an attack while in another creature's space if you know that they are there. Thus you would first have to leave the creature's space in order to attack them.
An exception is if you were out of movement when you entered the creatures space. You did not know they were there and so this would not be a willing ending of your movement there, it just so happened that a creature was there when you ran out of movement. Thus you would be allowed to attack even while in its space.
This Q/A agrees with my claim that you would be allowed to do what you want with your action, and thus could attack the creature while in its space.
You can attack an invisible creature at disadvantage if you know where they are, otherwise you would have to guess their location.
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You can attack an invisible creature even without having to run into it.
The invisible condition states:
An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. [...] The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves.
Invisible is not the same as hidden as pointed out in the answer to this question.
Unless a creature is hidden, other creatures know the location of an invisible opponent without needing to make an ability check because "the creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves". Therefore you can attack an invisible creature without having to run into it in the first place, the attack just has disadvantage.
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 6:01
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 6:18
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 13:23
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 17:23
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 17:24
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You can attack an invisible creature even without having to run into it.
The invisible condition states:
An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. [...] The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves.
Invisible is not the same as hidden as pointed out in the answer to this question.
Unless a creature is hidden, other creatures know the location of an invisible opponent without needing to make an ability check because "the creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves". Therefore you can attack an invisible creature without having to run into it in the first place, the attack just has disadvantage.
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 6:01
6
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 6:18
1
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 13:23
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 17:23
4
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 17:24
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You can attack an invisible creature even without having to run into it.
The invisible condition states:
An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. [...] The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves.
Invisible is not the same as hidden as pointed out in the answer to this question.
Unless a creature is hidden, other creatures know the location of an invisible opponent without needing to make an ability check because "the creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves". Therefore you can attack an invisible creature without having to run into it in the first place, the attack just has disadvantage.
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You can attack an invisible creature even without having to run into it.
The invisible condition states:
An invisible creature is impossible to see without the aid of magic or a special sense. [...] The creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves.
Invisible is not the same as hidden as pointed out in the answer to this question.
Unless a creature is hidden, other creatures know the location of an invisible opponent without needing to make an ability check because "the creature’s location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves". Therefore you can attack an invisible creature without having to run into it in the first place, the attack just has disadvantage.
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 6:01
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 6:18
1
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 13:23
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 17:23
4
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 17:24
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 6:01
6
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 6:18
1
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 13:23
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
$endgroup$
– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 17:23
4
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
$endgroup$
– Medix2
Aug 13 at 17:24
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 6:01
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Its location can be detected, but can you clarify the conditions under which it would, in fact, be detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 6:01
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 6:18
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@MarkWells The quote literally says "By any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves" is this not clear?
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 6:18
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 13:23
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For further supporting evidence you could use this question or this one
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 13:23
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 17:23
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@Medix2 The quote literally says "The creature's location can be detected by any noise it makes or any tracks it leaves." How do you know if it is detected?
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– Mark Wells
Aug 13 at 17:23
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 17:24
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@MarkWells Under any standard English reading of the quote it would mean that if the creature makes noise you know where it is. The rules are not meant to be read as if they are a legal document
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– Medix2
Aug 13 at 17:24
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Is the creature merely invisible but still audible or actually hidden (invisible and inaudible)
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Aug 13 at 4:30
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Just invisible, but interested in both scenarios
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