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$1$ as a common root of a quadratic equation


How to show that $A^3+B^3+C^3 - 3ABC = (A+B+C)(A+Bomega+Comega^2)(A+Bomega^2+Comega)$ indirectly?Unfoiling quadratic equationTriple Simultaneous Equations not resolving the Equation for a Quadratic FunctionQuadratic Equation Based Problem:Prove either $a = 2l$ & $b = m$ or $b + m = al$Question about quadratic equationQuadratic equations greater than zero, then we have at most one real rootThe equations $x^3+5x^2+px+q=0$and $x^3+7x^2+px+r=0$ have 2 common roots, then find the third root of both equationsExplanation on the square root property, and how it's derived.Making this equation into Quadratic form produces two different answersEquilibrium from linear to quadraticIf the equations $ax^3+(a+b)x^2+(b+c)x+c=0$ and $2x^3+x^2+2x-5=0$ have a common root,then $a+b+c$ can be equal to













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$$ax^2 + bx + c = 0quadtextandquad
bx^2 + cx + a = 0$$

have a common root.



In my book, it says that 1 is a common root for those equation?



Is this correct.



When we plug 1 in both the equations, we get $a+b+c = 0$, it says nothing about 1 being a root. Since we don't know if LHS is zero or not.



Where I'm going wrong here?










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    Without further information, we cannot say that $1$ is a root. For example, if $a=b=c=1$, the two quadratic equations are $x^2+x+1=0$ and $x^2+x+1=0$. These clearly have a common root (as they are the same equation), but $1$ is not a root. From answers below though, we know that a common root $x_0$ must satisfy $$aleft(x_0^3-1right)=0,$$ or equivalently (if $ane 0$) $$x_0^3=1.$$ Therefore, if you are given that there is a common real root, then you can conclude that $x_0=1$ is a common root.
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$$ax^2 + bx + c = 0quadtextandquad
bx^2 + cx + a = 0$$

have a common root.



In my book, it says that 1 is a common root for those equation?



Is this correct.



When we plug 1 in both the equations, we get $a+b+c = 0$, it says nothing about 1 being a root. Since we don't know if LHS is zero or not.



Where I'm going wrong here?










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    $begingroup$
    Without further information, we cannot say that $1$ is a root. For example, if $a=b=c=1$, the two quadratic equations are $x^2+x+1=0$ and $x^2+x+1=0$. These clearly have a common root (as they are the same equation), but $1$ is not a root. From answers below though, we know that a common root $x_0$ must satisfy $$aleft(x_0^3-1right)=0,$$ or equivalently (if $ane 0$) $$x_0^3=1.$$ Therefore, if you are given that there is a common real root, then you can conclude that $x_0=1$ is a common root.
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    yesterday











  • $begingroup$
    It's possible of course that this question came up in a context where the reader is not expected to know about complex numbers (just real numbers). In that case, when they said there is a common root, it automatically meant real root and you can more or less ignore my comment above.
    $endgroup$
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    Could you clarify if the common root is required to be a real root?
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    – Servaes
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$begingroup$


$$ax^2 + bx + c = 0quadtextandquad
bx^2 + cx + a = 0$$

have a common root.



In my book, it says that 1 is a common root for those equation?



Is this correct.



When we plug 1 in both the equations, we get $a+b+c = 0$, it says nothing about 1 being a root. Since we don't know if LHS is zero or not.



Where I'm going wrong here?










share|cite|improve this question











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$$ax^2 + bx + c = 0quadtextandquad
bx^2 + cx + a = 0$$

have a common root.



In my book, it says that 1 is a common root for those equation?



Is this correct.



When we plug 1 in both the equations, we get $a+b+c = 0$, it says nothing about 1 being a root. Since we don't know if LHS is zero or not.



Where I'm going wrong here?







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    Without further information, we cannot say that $1$ is a root. For example, if $a=b=c=1$, the two quadratic equations are $x^2+x+1=0$ and $x^2+x+1=0$. These clearly have a common root (as they are the same equation), but $1$ is not a root. From answers below though, we know that a common root $x_0$ must satisfy $$aleft(x_0^3-1right)=0,$$ or equivalently (if $ane 0$) $$x_0^3=1.$$ Therefore, if you are given that there is a common real root, then you can conclude that $x_0=1$ is a common root.
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  • $begingroup$
    It's possible of course that this question came up in a context where the reader is not expected to know about complex numbers (just real numbers). In that case, when they said there is a common root, it automatically meant real root and you can more or less ignore my comment above.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    Could you clarify if the common root is required to be a real root?
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
    yesterday












  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Without further information, we cannot say that $1$ is a root. For example, if $a=b=c=1$, the two quadratic equations are $x^2+x+1=0$ and $x^2+x+1=0$. These clearly have a common root (as they are the same equation), but $1$ is not a root. From answers below though, we know that a common root $x_0$ must satisfy $$aleft(x_0^3-1right)=0,$$ or equivalently (if $ane 0$) $$x_0^3=1.$$ Therefore, if you are given that there is a common real root, then you can conclude that $x_0=1$ is a common root.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    yesterday











  • $begingroup$
    It's possible of course that this question came up in a context where the reader is not expected to know about complex numbers (just real numbers). In that case, when they said there is a common root, it automatically meant real root and you can more or less ignore my comment above.
    $endgroup$
    – Minus One-Twelfth
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    Could you clarify if the common root is required to be a real root?
    $endgroup$
    – Servaes
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$begingroup$
Without further information, we cannot say that $1$ is a root. For example, if $a=b=c=1$, the two quadratic equations are $x^2+x+1=0$ and $x^2+x+1=0$. These clearly have a common root (as they are the same equation), but $1$ is not a root. From answers below though, we know that a common root $x_0$ must satisfy $$aleft(x_0^3-1right)=0,$$ or equivalently (if $ane 0$) $$x_0^3=1.$$ Therefore, if you are given that there is a common real root, then you can conclude that $x_0=1$ is a common root.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
yesterday





$begingroup$
Without further information, we cannot say that $1$ is a root. For example, if $a=b=c=1$, the two quadratic equations are $x^2+x+1=0$ and $x^2+x+1=0$. These clearly have a common root (as they are the same equation), but $1$ is not a root. From answers below though, we know that a common root $x_0$ must satisfy $$aleft(x_0^3-1right)=0,$$ or equivalently (if $ane 0$) $$x_0^3=1.$$ Therefore, if you are given that there is a common real root, then you can conclude that $x_0=1$ is a common root.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
yesterday













$begingroup$
It's possible of course that this question came up in a context where the reader is not expected to know about complex numbers (just real numbers). In that case, when they said there is a common root, it automatically meant real root and you can more or less ignore my comment above.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
yesterday




$begingroup$
It's possible of course that this question came up in a context where the reader is not expected to know about complex numbers (just real numbers). In that case, when they said there is a common root, it automatically meant real root and you can more or less ignore my comment above.
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From first one you have $$c=-ax^2-bx$$ so put this in second eqaution and you get:$$ ax^3-a=0$$ Since $aneq 0$ we have $x=1$ or solution of $x^2+x+1=0$.






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Let $t$ is the common root,



$at^2+bt+c=0$



$bt^2+ct+a=0$



Solve for $t^2,t$



and use $t^2=(t)^2$ to eliminate $t$



and find $$0=a^3+b^3+c^3-3abc=(a+b+c)(?)$$






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Let $t$ be the common root:
$$at^2+bt+c=0\
bt^2+ct+a=0$$

Subtract and factorize:
$$a(t^2-1)+b(t-t^2)+c(1-t)=0 iff \
a(t-1)(t+1)-bt(t-1)-c(t-1)=0 iff \
(t-1)(at+a-bt-c)=0 Rightarrow t=1$$






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    From first one you have $$c=-ax^2-bx$$ so put this in second eqaution and you get:$$ ax^3-a=0$$ Since $aneq 0$ we have $x=1$ or solution of $x^2+x+1=0$.






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    From first one you have $$c=-ax^2-bx$$ so put this in second eqaution and you get:$$ ax^3-a=0$$ Since $aneq 0$ we have $x=1$ or solution of $x^2+x+1=0$.






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    From first one you have $$c=-ax^2-bx$$ so put this in second eqaution and you get:$$ ax^3-a=0$$ Since $aneq 0$ we have $x=1$ or solution of $x^2+x+1=0$.






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    From first one you have $$c=-ax^2-bx$$ so put this in second eqaution and you get:$$ ax^3-a=0$$ Since $aneq 0$ we have $x=1$ or solution of $x^2+x+1=0$.







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    $begingroup$
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    Let $t$ is the common root,



    $at^2+bt+c=0$



    $bt^2+ct+a=0$



    Solve for $t^2,t$



    and use $t^2=(t)^2$ to eliminate $t$



    and find $$0=a^3+b^3+c^3-3abc=(a+b+c)(?)$$






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    Let $t$ is the common root,



    $at^2+bt+c=0$



    $bt^2+ct+a=0$



    Solve for $t^2,t$



    and use $t^2=(t)^2$ to eliminate $t$



    and find $$0=a^3+b^3+c^3-3abc=(a+b+c)(?)$$






    share|cite|improve this answer









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    $begingroup$

    Let $t$ is the common root,



    $at^2+bt+c=0$



    $bt^2+ct+a=0$



    Solve for $t^2,t$



    and use $t^2=(t)^2$ to eliminate $t$



    and find $$0=a^3+b^3+c^3-3abc=(a+b+c)(?)$$






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    Let $t$ is the common root,



    $at^2+bt+c=0$



    $bt^2+ct+a=0$



    Solve for $t^2,t$



    and use $t^2=(t)^2$ to eliminate $t$



    and find $$0=a^3+b^3+c^3-3abc=(a+b+c)(?)$$







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    Let $t$ be the common root:
    $$at^2+bt+c=0\
    bt^2+ct+a=0$$

    Subtract and factorize:
    $$a(t^2-1)+b(t-t^2)+c(1-t)=0 iff \
    a(t-1)(t+1)-bt(t-1)-c(t-1)=0 iff \
    (t-1)(at+a-bt-c)=0 Rightarrow t=1$$






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      Let $t$ be the common root:
      $$at^2+bt+c=0\
      bt^2+ct+a=0$$

      Subtract and factorize:
      $$a(t^2-1)+b(t-t^2)+c(1-t)=0 iff \
      a(t-1)(t+1)-bt(t-1)-c(t-1)=0 iff \
      (t-1)(at+a-bt-c)=0 Rightarrow t=1$$






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        Let $t$ be the common root:
        $$at^2+bt+c=0\
        bt^2+ct+a=0$$

        Subtract and factorize:
        $$a(t^2-1)+b(t-t^2)+c(1-t)=0 iff \
        a(t-1)(t+1)-bt(t-1)-c(t-1)=0 iff \
        (t-1)(at+a-bt-c)=0 Rightarrow t=1$$






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        Let $t$ be the common root:
        $$at^2+bt+c=0\
        bt^2+ct+a=0$$

        Subtract and factorize:
        $$a(t^2-1)+b(t-t^2)+c(1-t)=0 iff \
        a(t-1)(t+1)-bt(t-1)-c(t-1)=0 iff \
        (t-1)(at+a-bt-c)=0 Rightarrow t=1$$







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