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Difference between “jail” and “prison” in German
How would one say that he has “finished” something?“lying on his face” vs “lying on one's stomach”German word for “suspension” / “suspended harmony” (music theory)“To be present” is “vorliegen”?To “count towards”How to ask for a bank account “upgrade”?German words suitable for “Submit” on buttons for web forms?Variations of “equals” and “does not equal” in programming contextWord for “assigning” someone to a groupForming a German sentence with/without the verb at the end
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In some English-speaking countries, there is a difference between the words prison and jail, jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards. In German, the word Gefängnis seems to be used interchangeably as does the more slang word Knast (at least Google translate and my dictionary both suggest this).
So my question is, is there a more specific word like jail in German?
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In some English-speaking countries, there is a difference between the words prison and jail, jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards. In German, the word Gefängnis seems to be used interchangeably as does the more slang word Knast (at least Google translate and my dictionary both suggest this).
So my question is, is there a more specific word like jail in German?
english-to-german legal-terminology
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"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction" That would be Untersuchungsgefängnis in German.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 3:52
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This should be an answer, not a comment
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 6:14
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The difference in meaning between the words “jail” and “prison” that you describe is, as far as I know, only in North American usage.
– Carsten S
Aug 4 at 8:57
8
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards" – That is not an accurate description of the difference. You can also be placed in jail after a conviction. In particular, sentences for misdemeanors up to one year will be served in jail, sentences for felonies more than one year will be served in prison. Also, you will be placed in jail after being sentenced before being transported to a prison.
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:18
11
@CarstenS Even in North America, "jail" and "prison" are considered synonymous by most people. I doubt you'd find one in five people outside the legal system who'd be familiar with the distinction.
– jmbpiano
Aug 4 at 19:18
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In some English-speaking countries, there is a difference between the words prison and jail, jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards. In German, the word Gefängnis seems to be used interchangeably as does the more slang word Knast (at least Google translate and my dictionary both suggest this).
So my question is, is there a more specific word like jail in German?
english-to-german legal-terminology
In some English-speaking countries, there is a difference between the words prison and jail, jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards. In German, the word Gefängnis seems to be used interchangeably as does the more slang word Knast (at least Google translate and my dictionary both suggest this).
So my question is, is there a more specific word like jail in German?
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"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction" That would be Untersuchungsgefängnis in German.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 3:52
3
This should be an answer, not a comment
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 6:14
22
The difference in meaning between the words “jail” and “prison” that you describe is, as far as I know, only in North American usage.
– Carsten S
Aug 4 at 8:57
8
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards" – That is not an accurate description of the difference. You can also be placed in jail after a conviction. In particular, sentences for misdemeanors up to one year will be served in jail, sentences for felonies more than one year will be served in prison. Also, you will be placed in jail after being sentenced before being transported to a prison.
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:18
11
@CarstenS Even in North America, "jail" and "prison" are considered synonymous by most people. I doubt you'd find one in five people outside the legal system who'd be familiar with the distinction.
– jmbpiano
Aug 4 at 19:18
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show 1 more comment
3
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction" That would be Untersuchungsgefängnis in German.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 3:52
3
This should be an answer, not a comment
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 6:14
22
The difference in meaning between the words “jail” and “prison” that you describe is, as far as I know, only in North American usage.
– Carsten S
Aug 4 at 8:57
8
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards" – That is not an accurate description of the difference. You can also be placed in jail after a conviction. In particular, sentences for misdemeanors up to one year will be served in jail, sentences for felonies more than one year will be served in prison. Also, you will be placed in jail after being sentenced before being transported to a prison.
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:18
11
@CarstenS Even in North America, "jail" and "prison" are considered synonymous by most people. I doubt you'd find one in five people outside the legal system who'd be familiar with the distinction.
– jmbpiano
Aug 4 at 19:18
3
3
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction" That would be Untersuchungsgefängnis in German.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 3:52
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction" That would be Untersuchungsgefängnis in German.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 3:52
3
3
This should be an answer, not a comment
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 6:14
This should be an answer, not a comment
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 6:14
22
22
The difference in meaning between the words “jail” and “prison” that you describe is, as far as I know, only in North American usage.
– Carsten S
Aug 4 at 8:57
The difference in meaning between the words “jail” and “prison” that you describe is, as far as I know, only in North American usage.
– Carsten S
Aug 4 at 8:57
8
8
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards" – That is not an accurate description of the difference. You can also be placed in jail after a conviction. In particular, sentences for misdemeanors up to one year will be served in jail, sentences for felonies more than one year will be served in prison. Also, you will be placed in jail after being sentenced before being transported to a prison.
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:18
"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards" – That is not an accurate description of the difference. You can also be placed in jail after a conviction. In particular, sentences for misdemeanors up to one year will be served in jail, sentences for felonies more than one year will be served in prison. Also, you will be placed in jail after being sentenced before being transported to a prison.
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:18
11
11
@CarstenS Even in North America, "jail" and "prison" are considered synonymous by most people. I doubt you'd find one in five people outside the legal system who'd be familiar with the distinction.
– jmbpiano
Aug 4 at 19:18
@CarstenS Even in North America, "jail" and "prison" are considered synonymous by most people. I doubt you'd find one in five people outside the legal system who'd be familiar with the distinction.
– jmbpiano
Aug 4 at 19:18
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The building is the same in both cases. It is called »Gefängnis« as you already know. But the kind of residence has different names:
Untersuchungshaft or U-Haft
imprisonment on remand
When you are under suspicion, but not yet convicted
(verb "untersuchen" = "to investigate")
Strafhaft
imprisonment for sentence
When you are validly convicted
(verb "strafen" = to punish)
In both cases you are a »Häftling« (prisoner, inmate). If you are in Untersuchungshaft, you are a »Untersuchungshäftling« or »U-Häftling«. If you are convinced, you are a »Strafhäftling« or »Sträfling«.
There are Gefängnisse where both kinds of Häftlinge are locked-in. Only a few buildings are only for long-time inmates, i.e. only for Sträflinge. But the majority of Gefängnisse are mixed.
There are also »Hafträume« (also: »Zellen«) (cells) in police stations, but inmates may only stay there for one day before they will be transported to a Gefängnis. Those buildings are not called Gefängnis, but Polizeistation or Wachstube. Their main purpose is to be a police station, i.e. a place where police officers have their offices.
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I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
6
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
5
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
2
looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
2
You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
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The building is the same in both cases. It is called »Gefängnis« as you already know. But the kind of residence has different names:
Untersuchungshaft or U-Haft
imprisonment on remand
When you are under suspicion, but not yet convicted
(verb "untersuchen" = "to investigate")
Strafhaft
imprisonment for sentence
When you are validly convicted
(verb "strafen" = to punish)
In both cases you are a »Häftling« (prisoner, inmate). If you are in Untersuchungshaft, you are a »Untersuchungshäftling« or »U-Häftling«. If you are convinced, you are a »Strafhäftling« or »Sträfling«.
There are Gefängnisse where both kinds of Häftlinge are locked-in. Only a few buildings are only for long-time inmates, i.e. only for Sträflinge. But the majority of Gefängnisse are mixed.
There are also »Hafträume« (also: »Zellen«) (cells) in police stations, but inmates may only stay there for one day before they will be transported to a Gefängnis. Those buildings are not called Gefängnis, but Polizeistation or Wachstube. Their main purpose is to be a police station, i.e. a place where police officers have their offices.
5
I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
6
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
5
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
2
looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
2
You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
|
show 9 more comments
The building is the same in both cases. It is called »Gefängnis« as you already know. But the kind of residence has different names:
Untersuchungshaft or U-Haft
imprisonment on remand
When you are under suspicion, but not yet convicted
(verb "untersuchen" = "to investigate")
Strafhaft
imprisonment for sentence
When you are validly convicted
(verb "strafen" = to punish)
In both cases you are a »Häftling« (prisoner, inmate). If you are in Untersuchungshaft, you are a »Untersuchungshäftling« or »U-Häftling«. If you are convinced, you are a »Strafhäftling« or »Sträfling«.
There are Gefängnisse where both kinds of Häftlinge are locked-in. Only a few buildings are only for long-time inmates, i.e. only for Sträflinge. But the majority of Gefängnisse are mixed.
There are also »Hafträume« (also: »Zellen«) (cells) in police stations, but inmates may only stay there for one day before they will be transported to a Gefängnis. Those buildings are not called Gefängnis, but Polizeistation or Wachstube. Their main purpose is to be a police station, i.e. a place where police officers have their offices.
5
I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
6
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
5
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
2
looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
2
You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
|
show 9 more comments
The building is the same in both cases. It is called »Gefängnis« as you already know. But the kind of residence has different names:
Untersuchungshaft or U-Haft
imprisonment on remand
When you are under suspicion, but not yet convicted
(verb "untersuchen" = "to investigate")
Strafhaft
imprisonment for sentence
When you are validly convicted
(verb "strafen" = to punish)
In both cases you are a »Häftling« (prisoner, inmate). If you are in Untersuchungshaft, you are a »Untersuchungshäftling« or »U-Häftling«. If you are convinced, you are a »Strafhäftling« or »Sträfling«.
There are Gefängnisse where both kinds of Häftlinge are locked-in. Only a few buildings are only for long-time inmates, i.e. only for Sträflinge. But the majority of Gefängnisse are mixed.
There are also »Hafträume« (also: »Zellen«) (cells) in police stations, but inmates may only stay there for one day before they will be transported to a Gefängnis. Those buildings are not called Gefängnis, but Polizeistation or Wachstube. Their main purpose is to be a police station, i.e. a place where police officers have their offices.
The building is the same in both cases. It is called »Gefängnis« as you already know. But the kind of residence has different names:
Untersuchungshaft or U-Haft
imprisonment on remand
When you are under suspicion, but not yet convicted
(verb "untersuchen" = "to investigate")
Strafhaft
imprisonment for sentence
When you are validly convicted
(verb "strafen" = to punish)
In both cases you are a »Häftling« (prisoner, inmate). If you are in Untersuchungshaft, you are a »Untersuchungshäftling« or »U-Häftling«. If you are convinced, you are a »Strafhäftling« or »Sträfling«.
There are Gefängnisse where both kinds of Häftlinge are locked-in. Only a few buildings are only for long-time inmates, i.e. only for Sträflinge. But the majority of Gefängnisse are mixed.
There are also »Hafträume« (also: »Zellen«) (cells) in police stations, but inmates may only stay there for one day before they will be transported to a Gefängnis. Those buildings are not called Gefängnis, but Polizeistation or Wachstube. Their main purpose is to be a police station, i.e. a place where police officers have their offices.
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I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
6
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
5
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
2
looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
2
You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
|
show 9 more comments
5
I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
6
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
5
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
2
looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
2
You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
5
5
I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
I also thought that the difference in German more relates to the kind of "Haft", than the specific kind of building (that's why I didn't wrote an answer). There are more though. Gewahrsam, Abschiebehaft, etc.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 6:54
6
6
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
For completeness you could also mention "Ausnüchterungszelle"
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 9:15
5
5
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
@Janka: I think "Gewahrsam" is more like "lockup" or a "holding cell" than "jail". The main differences between jail and prison are basically that a) jails are run by the city or county whereas prisons are run by the state or federal government, b) jail has a higher turnover (more inmates leaving and arriving), c) jail has shorter stays (sentences for misdemeanors up to one year are served in jail, sentences for felonies longer than year are served in prison). This distinction doesn't really exist in Germany, AFAIK, there are no special facilities for someone convicted of a "Vergehen".
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:23
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looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
looks like we need to specify the jurisdiction here. Because for U-Haft you need (in Germany) strong reasons like "danger of flight" => detention, simple Gewahrsam (can be custody) is made by police for simple stuff like short fist fight and refuse to stop.
– Shegit Brahm
Aug 4 at 19:15
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You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
You can also be imprisoned if you won't pay a Bussgeld for an Ordnungswidrigkeit; it's called Erzwingungshaft. If you do not bear witness in a court case you can be taken in Beugehaft. In both cases you are not charged with any criminal offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit is not a criminal offense); nevertheless you'll likely be held in the same facility as the murderers.
– Peter A. Schneider
Aug 5 at 6:05
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"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction" That would be Untersuchungsgefängnis in German.
– πάντα ῥεῖ
Aug 4 at 3:52
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This should be an answer, not a comment
– infinitezero
Aug 4 at 6:14
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The difference in meaning between the words “jail” and “prison” that you describe is, as far as I know, only in North American usage.
– Carsten S
Aug 4 at 8:57
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"jail being where you are placed prior to a conviction, prison being where you are held afterwards" – That is not an accurate description of the difference. You can also be placed in jail after a conviction. In particular, sentences for misdemeanors up to one year will be served in jail, sentences for felonies more than one year will be served in prison. Also, you will be placed in jail after being sentenced before being transported to a prison.
– Jörg W Mittag
Aug 4 at 11:18
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@CarstenS Even in North America, "jail" and "prison" are considered synonymous by most people. I doubt you'd find one in five people outside the legal system who'd be familiar with the distinction.
– jmbpiano
Aug 4 at 19:18