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Does Prince Arnaud cause someone holding the Princess to lose?
How can we determine the winner in Love Letter if the last two players tie and have the same value of cards discarded?Love letter handmaiden card play
The rules for Prince Arnaud say:
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.
but for the Princess, they say:
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php
If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?
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The rules for Prince Arnaud say:
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.
but for the Princess, they say:
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php
If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?
love-letter
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The rules for Prince Arnaud say:
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.
but for the Princess, they say:
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php
If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?
love-letter
asked Apr 22 at 18:26
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The rules for Prince Arnaud say:
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.
but for the Princess, they say:
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php
If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?
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The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:
If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.
Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three ways to eliminate a player mid-round are:
- Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)
- Using the Baron
- Using the prince on a player with the princess
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
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One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
1
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
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Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
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The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:
If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.
Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three ways to eliminate a player mid-round are:
- Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)
- Using the Baron
- Using the prince on a player with the princess
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
1
One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
1
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
add a comment |
The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:
If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.
Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three ways to eliminate a player mid-round are:
- Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)
- Using the Baron
- Using the prince on a player with the princess
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
1
One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
1
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
add a comment |
The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:
If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.
Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three ways to eliminate a player mid-round are:
- Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)
- Using the Baron
- Using the prince on a player with the princess
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:
If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.
When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.
Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three ways to eliminate a player mid-round are:
- Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)
- Using the Baron
- Using the prince on a player with the princess
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
edited 12 hours ago
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
answered Apr 22 at 19:07
ZagsZags
8,30631968
8,30631968
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One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
1
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
add a comment |
1
One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
1
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
1
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
1
1
One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
One of the more interesting things that can happen is when there are 2 players left. One plays a Handmaid (so they cannot be chosen by other cards) and the other player draws into Prince + Princess. They lose because they are forced to discard the Princess outright or use the Prince on themselves and still discard the Princess.
– ryanyuyu
2 days ago
1
1
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
@ryanyuyu Yep. I chose not to call this out separately because this is technically a player being eliminated by being the target of the prince while holding the princess.
– Zags
2 days ago
1
1
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
@ryanyuyu That can also happen with a king/princess when you won't get another turn
– Joe W
2 days ago
1
1
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
How can you use the Baron to eliminate the princess? You will always lose the duel against the Princess.
– Conffusion
14 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
@Conffusion You don't use the Baron to eliminate the princess. You use the Baron to eliminate a player.
– Zags
12 hours ago
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Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
answered Apr 22 at 18:30
Joe WJoe W
9,22923352
add a comment |
Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
answered Apr 22 at 18:30
Joe WJoe W
9,22923352
add a comment |
Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
answered Apr 22 at 18:30
Joe WJoe W
9,22923352
Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.
If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.
answered Apr 22 at 18:30
Joe WJoe W
9,22923352
answered Apr 22 at 18:30
Joe WJoe W
9,22923352
answered Apr 22 at 18:30
Joe WJoe W
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answered Apr 22 at 18:30
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